DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 5794 - 5796 and 5800 - 5801

2008-10-26 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Proposal 5800 doesn't specify a rule amendment.] Arguably, it doesn't meet the definition of a proposal then. CFJ 1834 would imply that it is a proposal, although the judge there didn't consider the issue at hand. For note

DIS: Re: BUS: Joining Fantasy Rules Committee

2008-10-26 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Jamie Dallaire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I'm already a member of it outside of Agora, I join the Fantasy Rules > Committee. If you meant to join the Contest, you mistyped. I'm considering this ineffective. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: hi ehird

2008-10-26 Thread Taral
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:03 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:11 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I deposit all of my non-fixed assets which have an exchange rate into the >> PBA. > > I withdraw all assets that I deposited in this message, except for 2 VP. Y

DIS: Re: BUS: Down with the PBA! er...

2008-10-26 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I support. I mean, really, don't meddle with other people's contracts, okay? Ironic. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: hi ehird

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 27/10/2008, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:11 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I deposit all of my non-fixed assets which have an exchange rate into the >> PBA. > > I withdraw all assets that I deposited in this message, except for 2 VP. > can't afford all of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 5806

2008-10-26 Thread warrigal
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:27 PM, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I intend, without objection, to terminate the Llama Party. It's clearly >> unfair on BobTHJ to be stuck having eir votes potentially controllable >> by W

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 5822

2008-10-26 Thread Ed Murphy
Dvorak Herring wrote: > I vote: > > NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE > 5822 D 1 2.0 BobTHJ PBA Busting > > FOR NttPF.

DIS: Re: BUS: hi ehird

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Oct 2008, at 22:11, comex wrote: I deposit all of my non-fixed assets which have an exchange rate into the PBA. >__< God damn it. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: PBA Busting

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Oct 2008, at 21:36, Roger Hicks wrote: OopsI had another (highly secret) reason for doing thisbut I just realized it won't work after all. Ah well. Can I have my VP now? -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: retribution

2008-10-26 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 15:32, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I submit the following Proposal (AI=2), entitled "Retribution": > { > Whereas the Rules of Agora make it IMPOSSIBLE to flip the > Contestmaster of a contest if that change would cause one player to be > Contestmaster of more

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: PBA Busting

2008-10-26 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 14:49, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 Oct 2008, at 18:22, Roger Hicks wrote: > >> The PBA really shouldn't have anything to fear from this anyway. Plus, >> it also means the distribution of the anti-RBOA proposal. > > > There is none. Warrigal is not a playe

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 5822

2008-10-26 Thread Dvorak Herring
I vote: NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE > 5822 D 1 2.0 BobTHJ PBA Busting > FOR -- Dvorak Herring

DIS: Markov pledging

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
14:05:51 fungot: If your response to this message makes sense as a set of obligations to impose on me in Agora, I pledge to follow them. 14:05:51 comex: ( a) as soon as possible after being made aware of this condition, randomly select a copy of the requested records within one week. 14:0

Re: DIS: New agoranomic.org page

2008-10-26 Thread Taral
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/agora/newmain.htm is an updated version > of agoranomic.org, so perhaps Taral might use this.. Replicated to agoranomic.org, with one small tweak. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: PBA Busting

2008-10-26 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:02, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 Oct 2008, at 17:42, Roger Hicks wrote: > >> Anyway, anyone want to fill my Buy ticket? I want to see these >> distributed today. > > > All of the active PerlNomic members seem to be PBA-{neutral,supportive}. > The PBA re

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Informs

2008-10-26 Thread Ed Murphy
warrigal wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Goethe, I inform you of this criminal case, and invite you to rebut the >> argument for your guilt: >> http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2229 > > Did this publication cause that CFJ to be a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: PBA Busting

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Oct 2008, at 17:42, Roger Hicks wrote: Anyway, anyone want to fill my Buy ticket? I want to see these distributed today. All of the active PerlNomic members seem to be PBA-{neutral,supportive}. -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Informs

2008-10-26 Thread warrigal
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Goethe, I inform you of this criminal case, and invite you to rebut the > argument for your guilt: > http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2229 Did this publication cause that CFJ to be assigned the number 2229, o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: PBA Busting

2008-10-26 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:14, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ehird asked "someone" to make this proposal. Here it is. > > RBoA-busting > AI: 2 > II: 1 > { > Upon the adoption of this proposal the RBoA contract is terminated. > } > > I would like 5 VP in payment. > Sure, its only fair. Anyw

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: PBA Busting

2008-10-26 Thread warrigal
ehird asked "someone" to make this proposal. Here it is. RBoA-busting AI: 2 II: 1 { Upon the adoption of this proposal the RBoA contract is terminated. } I would like 5 VP in payment. --Warrigal of Escher

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Rotational autocratic would be a variation of Unilateral, I guess. I'm not so sure. Steve and I used this for a while when our group had a lot of votes and just we two were active. Idea was: you can cast all the votes this week (and I can't complain) th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: PBA Busting

2008-10-26 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:45, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 Oct 2008, at 16:29, Roger Hicks wrote: > >> Revenge? Vindication? Grumpiness? > > > Waaah, my bank was scammed. > Its my proposal and I'll cry if I want to. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Udder chaos

2008-10-26 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ineffective, must be submitted to the CotC who was not on the channel >> at the time. > > Just like with any other PF, you SHOULD ensure you can receive > messages via it, and messages sent via it are prima fa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: PBA Busting

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Oct 2008, at 16:29, Roger Hicks wrote: Revenge? Vindication? Grumpiness? Waaah, my bank was scammed. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Ed Murphy
woggle wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 22:00, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Revisiting my B.N. thesis (11/29/07) on partnerships, I've identified >> the following general models of partnership control. Can anyone think >> of any others? >> >> * Consentual (e.g. Pineapple, Human Point

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Revisiting my B.N. thesis (11/29/07) on partnerships, I've identified >> the following general models of partnership control. Can anyone think >> of any others? >> >> * Consentual (e.g. Pineapple, Human Point Two)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: PBA Busting

2008-10-26 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:26, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I submit the following proposal: >> >> PBA-busting >> AI: 2 >> II: 1 >> { >> Upon the adoption of this proposal the PBA contract is terminated. >> } > > A

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: PBA Busting

2008-10-26 Thread warrigal
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > PBA-busting > AI: 2 > II: 1 > { > Upon the adoption of this proposal the PBA contract is terminated. > } Any particular reason? --Warrigal of Escher

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Revisiting my B.N. thesis (11/29/07) on partnerships, I've identified > the following general models of partnership control. Can anyone think > of any others? > > * Consentual (e.g. Pineapple, Human Point Two) > * Capitalist (e.g. Primo, Reformed Bank) >

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Jamie Dallaire
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:54 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Jamie Dallaire > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a partnership between X and Y. If the Dow hits 6000 before > hitting > > 12000, X must transfer 1000 chits [[not sure what those are yet...]

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Oct 2008, at 15:18, Roger Hicks wrote: Not at all. It just proved to be a useful too to balancing the PBA's initial rate flaws. Now that the PBA rates are more in line with what they should be the RBOA abuse should slow or stop completely. ...until actual usage patterns show up a differ

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:05, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 Oct 2008, at 14:51, Roger Hicks wrote: > >> I would recommend against the doom and gloom that indicates teh RBOA >> will fail. Despite any setbacks it is still doing fine. > > > However, its model has been shown to be fu

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Oct 2008, at 14:51, Roger Hicks wrote: I would recommend against the doom and gloom that indicates teh RBOA will fail. Despite any setbacks it is still doing fine. However, its model has been shown to be fundamentally flawed. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread comex
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Jamie Dallaire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a partnership between X and Y. If the Dow hits 6000 before hitting > 12000, X must transfer 1000 chits [[not sure what those are yet...]] to Y. > Else, Y must transfer 1000 chits to X. That wouldn't require a part

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:49, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 Oct 2008, at 06:43, Jamie Dallaire wrote: > > This is a partnership between X and Y. If the Dow hits 6000 before hitting > 12000, X must transfer 1000 chits [[not sure what those are yet...]] to Y. > Else, Y must transfe

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Oct 2008, at 06:43, Jamie Dallaire wrote: This is a partnership between X and Y. If the Dow hits 6000 before hitting 12000, X must transfer 1000 chits [[not sure what those are yet...]] to Y. Else, Y must transfer 1000 chits to X. Chits are the currency of the Reformed Bank of Agora,

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 00:43, Jamie Dallaire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Revisiting my B.N. thesis (11/29/07) on partnerships, I've identified >> the following general models of partnership control. Can anyone think >> o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Udder chaos

2008-10-26 Thread comex
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ineffective, must be submitted to the CotC who was not on the channel > at the time. Just like with any other PF, you SHOULD ensure you can receive messages via it, and messages sent via it are prima facie considered to be rec

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5807-5821

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Oct 2008, at 03:42, Ian Kelly wrote: Nothing in particular. Just the scams annoyed me, and I'm feeling petty. The scams are pretty unrelated to the PBA itself, though; just because I was pretty satisfied with them and said "sure" to ais523 finishing it off later doesn't mean the

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: More proto-contract: an Agoran Loan Service

2008-10-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Oct 2008, at 03:07, warrigal wrote: So as to be able to lend more money: I deposit a Vote Point for 21 coins. I deposit a Vote Point for 20 coins. I deposit a Vote Point for 19 coins. I deposit a Vote Point for 18 coins. I deposit a Vote Point for 17 coins. I deposit a Vote Point for 16 c