Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Chester Mealer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am posting an announcement of my intent to register as a player under the >> name "cdm014" > > Welcome to Agora! Any relation to ais523? > > -ro

DIS: Re: BUS: registration

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Chester Mealer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am posting an announcement of my intent to register as a player under the > name "cdm014" Welcome to Agora! Any relation to ais523? -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:58 PM, ihope wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Will you be on later tonight? Or shall we set this up for tomorrow? I'll be able to do it later tonight, most likely. Just a few minutes. --Ivan Hope CXXVII Okay, I'll

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will you be on later tonight? Or shall we set this up for tomorrow? I'll be able to do it later tonight, most likely. Just a few minutes. --Ivan Hope CXXVII

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:54 PM, ihope wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You, sir, are on. Let me change computers, as this one can't run YPP too well. Unfortunate that this computer doesn't have Puzzle Pirates installed at the moment. You'll

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You, sir, are on. Let me change computers, as this one can't run YPP too > well. Unfortunate that this computer doesn't have Puzzle Pirates installed at the moment. You'll have to wait a bit. --Ivan Hope CXXVII

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:46 PM, ihope wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Very well, I will slap you with a trout as soon as I can find you on Sage Ocean (sage.puzzlepirates.com)... assuming that my trout hasn't turned to dust by then. My pira

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very well, I will slap you with a trout as soon as I can find you on Sage > Ocean (sage.puzzlepirates.com)... assuming that my trout hasn't turned to > dust by then. My pirate's name is Igo. Catch me if you can. :-P --

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:33 PM, ihope wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, the Defendant is dangerously close to contempt of court in eir defense. Too bad contempt isn't clear enough in the rules for me to slap em with a trout regarding

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:05 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:34 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sure. E had 502 ribbons before the transfer e posted at that second >> took place, 452 afterwards. > > I wish. :-P > > --Ivan Hope CXXVII > Uh, good th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure. E had 502 ribbons before the transfer e posted at that second > took place, 452 afterwards. I wish. :-P --Ivan Hope CXXVII

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, the Defendant is dangerously close to contempt of court in eir > defense. Too bad contempt isn't clear enough in the rules for me to slap em > with a trout regarding it. Slapping with a trout is an unregulated

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:05 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> To resolve CFJs 1995 and 2004, I request the Bank of Agora to inform me >>>

Re: DIS: Black ribbons

2008-06-16 Thread comex
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would anybody support changing black ribbons to be awarded for judging > a question on culpability rather than sentencing? It seems a bit > arbitrary that you can only get a black ribbon in cases where the > defendant happens

Re: DIS: BOA

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:01 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Then I ask the kind Bankers of the BOA to consider an exchange rate for >> Points. > > Points are a fixed currency, so they can't be transferred (and that > inc

Re: DIS: BOA

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then I ask the kind Bankers of the BOA to consider an exchange rate for > Points. Points are a fixed currency, so they can't be transferred (and that includes depositing or withdrawing them at the Bank of Agora). --Ivan Hope CX

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1995 and 2004 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-06-16 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:05 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To resolve CFJs 1995 and 2004, I request the Bank of Agora to inform me of Ivan Hope's holdings of pens as of Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:11:46 -0400. Umm... I intend, wi

Re: DIS: BOA

2008-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then I ask the kind Bankers of the BOA to consider an exchange rate for > Points. Points are a fixed asset and as such couldn't be transferred to the Bank (well, not without making it a Contest, but I don't see that happening wi

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1966 judged TRUE by Pavitra

2008-06-16 Thread Benjamin Schultz
Under the concept of Don't Muck With the Ruleset By Fiat, I am inclined towards ruling REVERSE on 1966c. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr

Re: DIS: BOA

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If the Bank of Agora doesn't currently have an exchange rate for a >> type of currency how does an exchange rate get initiated? > > The list of exchange rate

Re: DIS: BOA

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the Bank of Agora doesn't currently have an exchange rate for a > type of currency how does an exchange rate get initiated? The list of exchange rates is part of the contract, so it requires a Contract Change with the consent

DIS: BOA

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
If the Bank of Agora doesn't currently have an exchange rate for a type of currency how does an exchange rate get initiated?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Werewolves of Agora Nomic

2008-06-16 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: 2008/6/15 ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Well, this is not what I'm used to. I thought roleclaiming and public voting (which entails bandwagons) were nice aspects of the game. /me shrugs --Ivan Hope CXXVII Ditto, add these and I'll play. ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Monstrous win

2008-06-16 Thread Ben Caplan
On Monday 16 June 2008 7:16:50 Ian Kelly wrote: > > On Monday 16 June 2008 2:22:56 Quazie wrote: > >> I submit the following proposal entitled "A win of monstrous > >> proportions" with the following text: > >> --- > >> "Upon the adoption of this proposal The barlog, Large Luigi the > >> Behold

DIS: Re: BUS: I proclaim myself Doopy!

2008-06-16 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jun 15, 2008, at 1:23 AM, George Roberts wrote: I hereby register under the name 'doopy'. Welcome to Agora, doopy! - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Monstrous win

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Ben Caplan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Monday 16 June 2008 2:22:56 Quazie wrote: >>> I submit the following proposal entitled "A win of monstrous >>> proportions" with the following text:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Monstrous win

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 16 June 2008 2:22:56 Quazie wrote: >> I submit the following proposal entitled "A win of monstrous >> proportions" with the following text: >> --- >> "Upon the adoption of this proposal The barlog, Large Luigi th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Ben Caplan
On Monday 16 June 2008 6:50:33 ihope wrote: > The rules can't stop you from posting to the DF. They can prohibit it, > but my proposal doesn't (well, shouldn't) claim to do so. R2141: Rules are unlimited in scope.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Ben Caplan
On Monday 16 June 2008 6:39:52 Nick Vanderweit wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Ben Caplan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You'd have to have a good definition of "gamestate". > > If it's not explicitly prohibited, then why bother disallowing it? > We'll prohibit what we see as counter t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Nick Vanderweit
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:50 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Ben Caplan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How about making statements to the DF that I haven't taken the time to >> carefully evaluate for truthfulness? Or, for that matter, making jokes >> to the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about making statements to the DF that I haven't taken the time to > carefully evaluate for truthfulness? Or, for that matter, making jokes > to the DF (see CFJ 1849 and > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)? The rules can't stop you fr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Monstrous win

2008-06-16 Thread Nick Vanderweit
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 16 June 2008 2:22:56 Quazie wrote: >> I submit the following proposal entitled "A win of monstrous >> proportions" with the following text: >> --- >> "Upon the adoption of this proposal The barlog, Large Luigi th

DIS: Re: BUS: Monstrous win

2008-06-16 Thread Ben Caplan
On Monday 16 June 2008 2:22:56 Quazie wrote: > I submit the following proposal entitled "A win of monstrous > proportions" with the following text: > --- > "Upon the adoption of this proposal The barlog, Large Luigi the > Beholder, the Jabberwocky, Pikachu, Dracula, The Hydra, Godzilla, and > t

DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, farming

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
Just to say so, when I wrote the Bank of Agora contract, I intended the announcements for depositing and withdrawing to include both what's deposited and withdrawn and the number of pens. --Ivan Hope CXXVII

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Housecleaning

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:31 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to make Jeremy a zombie with myself as > zombiemaster. I support. --Ivan Hope NTTPF

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Nick Vanderweit
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 16 June 2008 10:13:14 ihope wrote: >> Hmm, yes, you're probably right about the contract-defined actions >> thing. I would rather have a sentence or two stating that the >> gamestate can only be changed as the rules

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Nick Vanderweit
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 14 June 2008 8:38:19 ihope wrote: >> So what is it that you need to do that the rules have the power to >> prevent you from doing, and do not allow you to do? I'm taking out >> scammable paragraphs and replacing th

Re: DIS: rules?

2008-06-16 Thread Chester Mealer
I understand now. -- Chester Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Ben Caplan
On Saturday 14 June 2008 8:38:19 ihope wrote: > So what is it that you need to do that the rules have the power to > prevent you from doing, and do not allow you to do? I'm taking out > scammable paragraphs and replacing them with a sentence or two that > have the same effect, if not a better one.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Ben Caplan
On Monday 16 June 2008 10:13:14 ihope wrote: > Hmm, yes, you're probably right about the contract-defined actions > thing. I would rather have a sentence or two stating that the > gamestate can only be changed as the rules allow than a list of what's > regulated and what's not that uses ambiguous t

Re: DIS: rules?

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/16 Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Yes, there are no "secret" rules or anything like that. >> >> -root >> > > private contracts Those aren't rules. They don't apply to anybody who hasn't specifically agreed to the

Re: DIS: Poetics

2008-06-16 Thread Ben Caplan
On Saturday 14 June 2008 7:23:10 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Ben Caplan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Huh. I was always taught in school that the sestet begins with a trochee. > > Well, it could just be that I'm an idiot and can't recognize a trochee > when I see one. B

Re: DIS: rules?

2008-06-16 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/16 Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yes, there are no "secret" rules or anything like that. > > -root > private contracts ehird

Re: DIS: Black ribbons

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would anybody support changing black ribbons to be awarded for judging > a question on culpability rather than sentencing? It seems a bit > arbitrary that you can only get a black ribbon in cases where the > defendant happens

DIS: Black ribbons

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
Would anybody support changing black ribbons to be awarded for judging a question on culpability rather than sentencing? It seems a bit arbitrary that you can only get a black ribbon in cases where the defendant happens to be guilty. In fact, it sort of provides a motivation to illegally find som

Re: DIS: WIn by Ribons

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When R2199 states > If this rule mentions at least six different specific colors for > Ribbons, then a player CAN destroy one Ribbon of each such color > in eir possession to satisfy the Winning Condition of > Renaissance. > > doe

DIS: WIn by Ribons

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
When R2199 states If this rule mentions at least six different specific colors for Ribbons, then a player CAN destroy one Ribbon of each such color in eir possession to satisfy the Winning Condition of Renaissance. does it mean that a player must have all types of ribbons to win OR that e must hav

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elder Lurker

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can either re-retract my proposal to add em all, or we can write > another proposal to award them Elder Lurker if it passes. Probably best to wait for them to prover their lurkership by posting, anyway. -root

Re: DIS: rules?

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Chester Mealer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On the business thread I noticed there was some talk of harvesting and crops > and what not. I saw no rules for such in the SLR and as a potential player > I'm interested in learning where I can find out more? It's a co

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elder Lurker

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Award Elder Lurker to both Michawl Norrish and David Nichol >> >> At least you mana

DIS: Re: BUS: Elder Lurker

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Award Elder Lurker to both Michawl Norrish and David Nichol > > At least you managed to misspell both their names equally... > > I suspect that Maud, Steve,

Re: DIS: rules?

2008-06-16 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/16 Chester Mealer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On the business thread I noticed there was some talk of harvesting and crops > and what not. I saw no rules for such in the SLR and as a potential player > I'm interested in learning where I can find out more? > > It is possible they are referring t

DIS: Re: BUS: Elder Lurker

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Award Elder Lurker to both Michawl Norrish and David Nichol At least you managed to misspell both their names equally... I suspect that Maud, Steve, Kelly, and Crito are are still lurking as well. -root

DIS: rules?

2008-06-16 Thread Chester Mealer
On the business thread I noticed there was some talk of harvesting and crops and what not. I saw no rules for such in the SLR and as a potential player I'm interested in learning where I can find out more? It is possible they are referring to some contract or contest, so mainly my question is does

DIS: Re: BUS: Elder Lurker

2008-06-16 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/16 Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Award Elder Lurker to both Michawl Norrish and David Nichol > MICHAWL NORRISH ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Elder Lurker

2008-06-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I submit the following proposal entitled Elder Lurker. BobTHJ is a > co-author of this proposal even though E doesn't know it yet. > > Append the following to Rule 1922 > > (g) Elder Lurker, to be awarded to Persons who are true

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Werewolves of Agora Nomic

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Er, that's my recollection anyway. The Registrar's report lists > Crito's email as 'dalbertz', so I hope I'm not mistaken. Dang, I did misremember. I dug up an email from the actual Crito, who was still lurking as of 2005.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Werewolves of Agora Nomic

2008-06-16 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/16 Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > E's a former player, by the nickname of Crito. And there's nothing > wrong with the occasional digression. > > -root > Ah, OK then. I apologise. ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Werewolves of Agora Nomic

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is your first post, right? >> >> I can't see anything else by you in the logs. >> >> If so, do you know what Agora Nomic is? This isn't a genera

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Werewolves of Agora Nomic

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2008/6/16 Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> This is your first post, right? >>> >>> I can't see anything else by you in the logs. >>> >>> If so

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Werewolves of Agora Nomic

2008-06-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/16 Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> This is your first post, right? >> >> I can't see anything else by you in the logs. >> >> If so, do you know what Agora Nomic is? This isn't a general discussion list. >> >> ehi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Werewolves of Agora Nomic

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is your first post, right? > > I can't see anything else by you in the logs. > > If so, do you know what Agora Nomic is? This isn't a general discussion list. E's a former player, by the nickname of Crito. And there's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Werewolves of Agora Nomic

2008-06-16 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/16 Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is your first post, right? > > I can't see anything else by you in the logs. > > If so, do you know what Agora Nomic is? This isn't a general discussion list. > > ehird > Extra notes: no, not his first post - but his other ones don't look too goo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Werewolves of Agora Nomic

2008-06-16 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/16 David Nicol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > sounds like warfare -- the on-going feudal eugenics program -- take > the idiots to battle and bump them off with full honor. Anyone read > http://www.amazon.com/WORLD-WAR-II-INFANTRY-SOLDIER/dp/B000LZG698 > by W. Y. Boyd? There are several scenes of a

Re: DIS: @BobTHJ

2008-06-16 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/16 Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You could, you know, read the voting results and find out. > > -root > WHAT A RIDICULOUS IDEA. ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Werewolves, take two

2008-06-16 Thread Quazie
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/15 Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I no longer agree to the previous version of this. >> >> I agree to the following: >> >> 1) The name of this public contract is The Werewolves of Agora Nomic. >> >> 2) The purpose

DIS: Re: BUS: Werewolves, take two

2008-06-16 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > I agree to this contract. There are 5 contestants, so I'm obligated to start a game. I'll wait a few more days in case anyone else wants to join.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Banking, farming

2008-06-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:58 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also mill 2009 and 2010 (CFJ numbers) for 4 WRVs. > harvest?

DIS: Re: BUS: Housecleaning

2008-06-16 Thread comex
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeremy has been inactive for three months. I intend to deregister em > without objection. I intend, with Agoran Consent, to make Jeremy a zombie with myself as zombiemaster.

DIS: Re: BUS: Give the Equity Court Teeth!

2008-06-16 Thread comex
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Give the Equity Court Teeth! > AI: 1.7 > II: 1 > { > Append to the second to last paragraph of R2169: > {{ > A person SHALL NOT violate the terms of such a binding agreement they > are pa

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Proto-Judgement on 1989, ponderances of 1990

2008-06-16 Thread comex
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, comex wrote: >> How about Rule 101 (vi), the right of participation in the fora? > This all rather depends on the definition of "participation". As you > found in your spam scam there's a difference be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Werewolves of Agora Nomic

2008-06-16 Thread David Nicol
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the goal of the game > becomes to survive with as few survivors as possible, not to eliminate > the other side. sounds like warfare -- the on-going feudal eugenics program -- take the idiots to battle and bump them off with

Re: DIS: @BobTHJ

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you ever vote FORx7 AGORA AGORA AGORA AGORA? > > If not, I initiate a criminal CFJ against you, for, uh, not doing so. Yeah. You could, you know, read the voting results and find out. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: RE: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/14/08, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> FOR if voting FOR would cause the resulting VI to be exactly 3, PRESENT >> otherwise > > Somehow this makes me uncomfortable. What happens in this case? > > Player A: I vo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: RE: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somehow this makes me uncomfortable. What happens in this case? > > Player A: I vote FOR if player B votes FOR, AGAINST otherwise. > Player B: I vote FOR if player A votes AGAINST, FOR otherwise. My opinion as Assessor is that nei

DIS: @BobTHJ

2008-06-16 Thread Elliott Hird
Did you ever vote FORx7 AGORA AGORA AGORA AGORA? If not, I initiate a criminal CFJ against you, for, uh, not doing so. Yeah. ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: RE: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Taral
On 6/14/08, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FOR if voting FOR would cause the resulting VI to be exactly 3, PRESENT > otherwise Somehow this makes me uncomfortable. What happens in this case? Player A: I vote FOR if player B votes FOR, AGAINST otherwise. Player B: I vote FOR if pla

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA action

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From my perspective, I don't think there is a need to specify. > Assuming I can remember about X crops in the future I will use regular > 0-9 crops first and then X crops if none are available. I imagine it could cause some

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA action

2008-06-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Give the Equity Court Teeth!

2008-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nothing, other than trying to make a more obvious and forceful obligation. Without some sort of suggestion of what a "strict sentence" should entail, and maybe something more forceful than just encouraging the judge, I'm not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Give the Equity Court Teeth!

2008-06-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Append to the second to last paragraph of R2169: >> {{ >> A person SHALL NOT violate the terms of such a binding agreement they >> are party to. The ju

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA action

2008-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I h

DIS: Re: BUS: Give the Equity Court Teeth!

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Append to the second to last paragraph of R2169: > {{ > A person SHALL NOT violate the terms of such a binding agreement they > are party to. The judge of a criminal case regarding a breach of this > rule is encouraged to ass

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA action

2008-06-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I harvest 1992, a CFJ, for 2 WRV. >>> >> Fails, you lack a 2 crop. >> > Disrega

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] Activity; nominations to fill offices held by Inactive player

2008-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure if I can do this... I nominate myself as Tailor. Yes, you can. There's a 4-day nomination period during which anyone can be nominated; if more than 1 nominee who hasn't refused eir nomination exists at the end of that

DIS: Re: BUS: Vote Market actions

2008-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recommend the judge of these cases implement a significant penalty > upon comex for eir continued blatant violation of this agreement. Wouldn't a criminal case be more appropriate?

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] Activity; nominations to fill offices held by Inactive player

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
On 6/16/08, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I nominate Ivan Hope CXXVII, comex, and Zefram as Herald. I accept this nomination, as I don't hold an office currently. Of course, as I understand it, nominations are considered accepted by default, so there's technically no reason for me to

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
On 6/16/08, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those would fall under "the rules do not have the power to prevent it" > in the new rule, the Soviet-style "everything not explicitly allowed is > prohibited" approach is distasteful nonetheless. Upon reflection, I > think it would also break cont

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/6/16 Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> 5547 D1 2ais523 > FOR > >> 5548 D1 3Murphy Chronological order > FOR > >> 5549 D1 2Wooble Earning Interest > FOR > >> 5550 O1 1Ivan Hope Tongue-tied > AGAINST * 3, FOR * 1 > >> 5551 O1 1BobTHJ Empo

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
> 5547 D1 2ais523 FOR > 5548 D1 3Murphy Chronological order FOR > 5549 D1 2Wooble Earning Interest FOR > 5550 O1 1Ivan Hope Tongue-tied AGAINST * 3, FOR * 1 > 5551 O1 1BobTHJ Empower the Notary FOR * 4 > 5552 O1 1.7 Murphy Clerk disi

DIS: RE: BUS: RE: [Deputy Tailor] Ribbon Report

2008-06-16 Thread Alexander Smith
Wooble wrote: > I only went back though the CotC reports looking for the players who > didn't already have a Blue ribbon for cases judged, and stopped > looking for the ones who, like you two, were Supine in the first few > reports I looked at. Ah, I'm not a Senator, so I was forced to supine by th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: banking and farming

2008-06-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I harvest 2206, a new rule number, to gain a random land. >> >> Fai

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:18 AM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hmm, why is everybody (except one voting PRESENT, apparently) against >> this? Does it break something? > > Some people prefer to have the right to do the thousands if not > millions of non-game-related actions t

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Proto-Judgement on 1989, ponderances of 1990

2008-06-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, comex wrote: > How about Rule 101 (vi), the right of participation in the fora? > > It is physically impossible for the rules to prevent me from posting > to the fora- possible for the Distributor, perhaps, but not for the > rules themselves. So, by this tack, the Rules are j

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:18 AM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm, why is everybody (except one voting PRESENT, apparently) against > this? Does it break something? Some people prefer to have the right to do the thousands if not millions of non-game-related actions they perform on a daily ba

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5547-5555

2008-06-16 Thread ihope
> Proposal 5554 (Democratic, AI=3, Interest=1) by Ivan Hope > Isn't that just silly? > > In rule 101, remove "ii. Every player has the right to perform an > action which is not regulated." and subtract 1 from the number of each > following element of the list. Replace the text of rule 2125 with "It