Re: DIS: Proto: Fairer judge rotation

2007-11-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/5/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > root wrote: > > > Fatigue is a standing player switch, the possible values of > > which are the natural numbers, and the default of which is the > > maximum fatigue value ever set. Fatigue is tracked by the Clerk > > of the

Re: DIS: Proto: Fairer judge rotation

2007-11-05 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: Fatigue is a standing player switch, the possible values of which are the natural numbers, and the default of which is the maximum fatigue value ever set. Fatigue is tracked by the Clerk of the Courts, as is the maximum fatigue value ever set. A standi

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1784: assign pikhq

2007-11-05 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On 11/5/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hereby assign pikhq as judge of CFJ 1784. You're a very efficient CotC. Nevertheless... I nominate AFO, Pineapple Partnership, Human Point Two, myself, and Goethe for the office of CotC. PP and HP2 are inactive. Rule 2154 only al

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1784: assign pikhq

2007-11-05 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Monday 05 November 2007 10:54:24 comex wrote: > On 11/5/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hereby assign pikhq as judge of CFJ 1784. > You're a very efficient CotC. Nevertheless... > I nominate AFO, Pineapple Partnership, Human Point Two, myself, and > Goethe for the office of CotC. >

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1785: notify BobTHJ

2007-11-05 Thread Roger Hicks
On 11/5/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > H. BobTHJ, I hereby inform you of criminal case 1785 in which you are > the defendant, and invite you to rebut the argument for your guilt. > I hereby end the pre-trial phase. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Proto-judgement CFJ 1782

2007-11-05 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >It is conceivable (though unlikely), that >if the Promotor changed hands at the last minute, than the punishment >could be applied to the new officeholder. This would not be legal. R1504 is clear that the defendant is a specific person. While "the

DIS: Re: BUS: My Fellow Agorans

2007-11-05 Thread comex
On Monday 05 November 2007, Roger Hicks wrote: > Defendant: myself, BobTHJ > Breached rule: R1504, Criminal Cases > Alleged Action: Failing to issue an Apology within 72 hours > Notes: I fully admit to my guilt in this case and throw myself upon > the mercy of the courts. I submit the above apology

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1779: assign comex

2007-11-05 Thread comex
On Monday 05 November 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: > On 11/5/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11/4/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 11/4/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I hereby assign comex as judge of CFJ 1779. > > > > > > Pseudo-judgement: UNDETERMINED, per th

DIS: Proto: Fairer judge rotation

2007-11-05 Thread Ian Kelly
Proto-proposal: Fairer judge rotation (AI=2) Amend Rule 1868 (Judge Assignment Generally) by appending the text: A player is well qualified to be assigned as judge of a judicial case if and only if e is neither unqualified nor poorly qualified to be assigned as its judge. Amen

Re: DIS: Rule 478

2007-11-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
root wrote: > Since August 2, registration has been performed "by announcing", which > R478 also defines only for players, so actually the registrations > since then are in the same uncertain state as those before August 2. For this case, since announcing is not defined for non-players, we use th

DIS: Proto-judgement CFJ 1782

2007-11-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
[I am still on the fence on this one. This is how I'm leaning. counter-arguments welcomed]. CFJ statement: pikhq initiated a criminal case in Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Proto-judgement: The message in question contains two parts. The first part of this message, prior to the

Re: DIS: Rule 478

2007-11-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/5/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A player performs an action "by announcement" by announcing that > e performs it. Any action performed by sending a message is > performed at the time date-stamped on that message. > > I just noticed: "A player", not "A person"?

DIS: Rule 478

2007-11-05 Thread Ian Kelly
A player performs an action "by announcement" by announcing that e performs it. Any action performed by sending a message is performed at the time date-stamped on that message. I just noticed: "A player", not "A person"? This implies that non-player persons cannot perform acti

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1779: assign comex

2007-11-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/5/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/4/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11/4/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I hereby assign comex as judge of CFJ 1779. > > > > Pseudo-judgement: UNDETERMINED, per the clear precedent set by CFJ 1744. > > In CFJ 1744, there

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1779: assign comex

2007-11-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/4/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/4/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hereby assign comex as judge of CFJ 1779. > > Pseudo-judgement: UNDETERMINED, per the clear precedent set by CFJ 1744. In CFJ 1744, there was no evidence one way or another whether Big Brother was a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1784: assign pikhq

2007-11-05 Thread Roger Hicks
On 11/5/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/5/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hereby assign pikhq as judge of CFJ 1784. > You're a very efficient CotC. Nevertheless... > I nominate AFO, Pineapple Partnership, Human Point Two, myself, and > Goethe for the office of CotC. > Fook

DIS: Re: BUS: I say I pseudo-judge (fwd)

2007-11-05 Thread Roger Hicks
On 11/5/07, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Mainly just added precedents cited by Zefram]. > > JUDGEMENT in CFJ 1774 > Fookiemyartug intends (with 2 Support) to Appeal the Judgment of CFJ 1774, if it fact it has already occurred. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: poing

2007-11-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/5/07, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > poing! Uh... piong? -root

DIS: poing

2007-11-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
poing!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I say I pseudo-judge (fwd)

2007-11-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Zefram wrote: > I find the FLR is pretty effective for this, due to its collation > of relevant precedents. Ah, yes, I keep forgetting the fine effort you've put into the FLR annotations in the past few months. Just another reason to keep you on (both) jobs. Okay comex, R

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I say I pseudo-judge (fwd)

2007-11-05 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >*Sigh* Subject lines may give some guidance, but they are not >a substantive part of the message. (I'd say RTF case archive but >I can't find the case in question myself, CFJ 1631. > we need a more effective >case archive or a way to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I say I pseudo-judge (fwd)

2007-11-05 Thread comex
On 11/5/07, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *Sigh* Subject lines may give some guidance, but they are not > a substantive part of the message. (I'd say RTF case archive but > I can't find the case in question myself, we need a more effective > case archive or a way to search case texts h

DIS: Re: BUS: I say I pseudo-judge (fwd)

2007-11-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/5/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/5/07, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BUS: I say I pseudo-judge (fwd) > > CFJ: The message with subject "BUS: I say I pseudo-judge (fwd)", > message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > that purported to judge CFJs 1774 and 1775) had the effect o

DIS: Re: BUS: I say I pseudo-judge (fwd)

2007-11-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
comex: > - This message was sent to a Public Forum. > - Labels in this message contained JUDGEMENT instead of PSUEDO-JUDGEMENT. Um, sounds like two rather substantive differences to me. > Nevertheless, the title would, to someone who had not been paying > attention to the Discussion Forum, appea

DIS: I say I pseudo-judge

2007-11-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
Murphy wrote: > Rule 478 has only defined "by announcement" since February 2003, when > it was quietly introduced as a side effect of Proposal 4456 (which > introduced Switches for the first time, and defined one for fora). Historical note: This was a result of Maud's concerns expressed in CFJ

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Dependent judgement

2007-11-05 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: > * DEPENDS, appropriate if the statement describes a general class >of hypothetical situations satisfying the following conditions: This seems cumbersome. We already handle such situations OK, with the judge having the option to describe the logic of the dependency.