Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5079

2007-07-11 Thread Taral
On 7/11/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Taral wrote: >>5079 Oi 1Murphy Disambiguate CotC >AGAINST Why? Why not? -- Eris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5079

2007-07-11 Thread Zefram
Taral wrote: >>5079 Oi 1Murphy Disambiguate CotC >AGAINST Why? -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5079

2007-07-11 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote: >Unfortunately, we don't currently have a way to change or retract >votes. R683/13(d) invalidates any retracted ballot, so go ahead. >The proposal could be re-democratized by having somebody else >vote 5 times AGAINST to cancel my 5 extra votes FOR, but that would >just i

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements of CFJs 1678-83

2007-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
root wrote: > What's more, a reversal of CFJ 1682 would be both useful and supported > by game custom, as evidenced by this announcement (as well as other > similar historical agreements) made by Goethe on April 6, 2005: > >> I agree, as per the rules of agora, to not check out >> more cards from

DIS: proto: limited VC market

2007-07-11 Thread Zefram
Here's a possible refinement of 3TE. proto-proposal: limited VC market AI: 2 {{{ Amend rule 2126 by appending to the list of ways that VCs may be spent e) A player may spend two VCs of the same color to make another player gain one VC of that color. [If someone only earns VCs in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On 7/11/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hereby call for judgement, barring root, comex, and BobTHJ, on the statement: to qualify as a member of a partnership one must be responsible for all of the partnership's obligations. Argument: Legal partnerships in most jurisdictions make all par

DIS: Re: BUS: Some more intent to control IADoP HP2

2007-07-11 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote: >I consent and support this. I don't think HP2's actually made the announcement of intent for that. I interpret the message as Murphy giving advance warning that HP2 will probably make those announcements of intent. -zefram

DIS: proto: judicial reform

2007-07-11 Thread Zefram
Proto revised slightly in response to Murphy's comments and recent proposals. proto-proposal: judicial reform AI: 2 {{{ Whereas Agora has since 1996 laboured under an unnecessarily complex, unclear, poorly-specified, bug-ridden judicial system, and wishes to replace this with a system designed i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-11 Thread Zefram
Peekee wrote: > Why should >(theoretically, not in terms of current rules) every member be >responsible for everything? That's the way a legal partnership usually works. Of course members of a partnership divide up responsibilities internally, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-11 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: The partnership would have devolved all of its obligation. Obligations are only devolved onto parties of the agreement. The parties onto which the obligations are devolved number at least two. Hmm. You might have found a bug there, it depends

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-11 Thread Zefram
Peekee wrote: >The partnership would have devolved all of its obligation. >Obligations are only devolved onto parties of the agreement. >The parties onto which the obligations are devolved number at least two. Hmm. You might have found a bug there, it depends on how "collectively" is interpreted.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-11 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: Does it need to pass all of its obligations onto all of its members? Yes, that's how "member" is defined. -zefram A binding agreement governed by the rules which devolves its legal obligations onto a subset of its parties, num

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-11 Thread Zefram
Peekee wrote: >Does it need to pass all of its obligations onto all of its members? Yes, that's how "member" is defined. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-11 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: What are the rules that specify that obligations of a Partnership must be devolved to ALL of its members/parties? That's not required. The requirement is that the obligations be devolved onto at least two parties, who are then known as the me

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5075-5078

2007-07-11 Thread Zefram
I hereby vote: >5075 Oi 1Zefram MMIify truthfulness FOR*10 >5076 Di 3Murphy Three-Tone Economics FOR >5077 Di 2Murphy MMI in practice FOR >5078 Di 3Zefram refactor voting limits FOR -zefram