[agi] I have an idea! =P

2019-03-06 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n8d_CJX0p8 Lets fart away our time reading and debating Mentifex postings while our governments fuck up the planetary systems that keep us alive and basically only AGI can save us! =P Apparently the central bank is due to be elimanted (thank god-emperor Trump). T

[agi] Fwd: [Comp-neuro] MIT challenge and workshop (July 19-20): The Algonauts project - explaining brain data with computational models

2019-04-10 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
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Re: [agi] How do I leave the group?

2019-05-20 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
[forgot that list was sent to reply to poster, appologies to Jim.] What a crazy thread... Here's a tip that will work on any non-spam mailing list in the known universe: Using your mail reader, get it to show you full headers -> read them and be shocked.  -> you'll feel embarassed about how

[agi] searching for intelligence in NPC world

2019-05-25 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
required reading: search -> "NPC meme" list archives, notice how MANY of the regular posters to this list have a stereotypical shpeil that they repeat again and again over many years with only slight permutations. I, myself have themes that I acknowledge returning to or ideas I wish to promot

[agi] What I mean by "synthetic personality"

2019-05-29 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
In the discussions (rabid rants) in favor of mind uploading, the product of the upload is described as a personality, that is asserted to be yours, by virtue of functioning just like yours. This is assenine but the idea of a human-analog piece of software serves to further clarify what is meant

Re: [agi] AI and Deep Learning Group on Telegram

2019-06-06 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
farzadhasanvand...@gmail.com wrote: For Who Have a Passion For: 1.?? Artificial Intelligence 2.?? Machine Learning 3.?? Deep Learning 4.?? Data Science 5.?? Computer vision 6.?? Image Processing 7. Research Papers 8. Related Courses and Ebooks https://t.me/joinchat/Ly1-vFOq9aR4mjpIDwzoHA

Re: [agi] Re: A mathematics of concpetual relations?

2019-06-18 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Yay, it seems peeps are finally ready to talk about this!! =P Lets see if I can fool anyone into thinking I'm actually making sense by starting with a first principles approach... On first approximation, yer computer's memory is just a giant string of charactors. Since everything you have e

Re: [agi] Re: A mathematics of concpetual relations?

2019-06-20 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
It has the basic structure and organization of a conscious agent, obviously it lacks the other ingredients required to produce a complete mind. Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: Prednet develops consciousness? On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 06:51 Alan Grimes via AGI <mailto:agi@agi.topicbox.com>&

[agi] ARGH!!!

2019-06-22 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I read some posts here yesterday that strongly indicate that people have not studied neural science *AT ALL* and I'm like. RGGH YOU FUCKING IMBICILES!!! YOU COME ON THIS GODDAMN LIST WITHOUT DOING YOUR MOTHERFUCKING HOMEWORK I mean I had deluded myself into thinking that each of

[agi] test

2019-06-23 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
test -- Please report bounces from this address to a...@numentics.com Powers are not rights. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf97c751029c2e4db-M688facf122abefc95c1d39a5 Delivery options: https:

Re: [agi] test

2019-06-24 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Colin Hales wrote: Meanwhile, the actual science of artificial general intelligence languishes, intended, malformed and impotent. Those of us that actually want to do the real science of an artificial version of natural general intelligence ... have to stand back and watch. I've been deeply i

Re: [agi] test

2019-06-26 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: Agreed with your comment on the many levels of abstraction. Some of us refer to those as the levels of complexity. How many levels would you theorize would be required for AGI version 1.0? We only need to worry about the one that does the learning. Every

Re: [agi] test

2019-06-27 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: Alan, seriously? Are you utterly convinced the learning system for a machine would only comprise a single level of complexity? Yes. First, disregard everything you need to generate machine code instructions to your CPU and GPU, not relevant; don't care.

Re: [agi] ARGH!!!

2019-06-28 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
bas...@starynkevitch.net wrote: An AGI megaproject would require thousands of people working during several decades on it. Costing tens of billions of US$ or ???. As far as I know, it has not started. Even worse, I cannot name any megaproject today in the information technology domain. uh, w

Re: [agi] ARGH!!!

2019-06-29 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Questions? Comments? Problems? We need to get this right. I cannot depict the context of brain science and AI/AGI properly, nor the uniqueness of my chip design without everyone understanding this. It's required learning. Sorry! :-) NUTS! Talking about chip design is NUTS unless you can sho

[agi] The cerebellum and

2019-07-01 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I really don't get what that other pinhead on the list is talking about with his 4 column chart with computer chips in the 3rd column... If you want to talk about doing science on brainz brains. Look at the gdmf Cerebellum. It has two dominant cell species: Granule cells?? -- Ok, a do

[agi] KILLTOPIC: COMPUTABILITY

2019-07-01 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I'm pretty sure there are other communities that focus on theory of computation, etc. Because it is a very time-consuming thing to think about and without compelling evidence that it is REQUIRED to produce AGI, I want to issue a killtopic on it. Furthermore, the brain categorically IS a comput

[agi] wuwu physics

2019-07-02 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Okay, let's consider the impact of non-standard models of physics. Let's first stay away from holographic universe physics, not because it is necessarily wrong, only because it's incomprehensible and doesn't seem to be practically relevant. All critters appear to be built according to classica

[agi] links from the feeds I've been neglecting:

2019-07-03 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
towards a new test for AGI: https://wba-initiative.org/en/3516/ -- Please report bounces from this address to a...@numentics.com Powers are not rights. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T27a8d80

Re: [agi] ARGH!!!

2019-07-04 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Ok, shut up, you are making me feel like a blithering idiot. =P How much hardware do you need? I'll ogranize a kickstarter or something and get you everything you need. I just need to do the engineering work to design exactly the machine you need and convice enough people that you aren't a Men

Re: [agi] Re: Seeing through another's eyes

2019-07-04 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
ok, here's a link that doesn't blow donky chunks... (no offense to the post, only the author of that kinnd of article that doesn't link to primary sources, but only to other pages on the same site. https://ai.facebook.com/blog/open-sourcing-ai-habitat-an-simulation-platform-for-embodied-ai-rese

[agi] Hardware news

2019-07-07 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
AMD has just coughed up their new 3000 series processors, the largest of which is still an AM4 desktop chip but with 16 cores/32 threads (coming soon), but with only the normal 2 DDR4 channels. =\ Still, there are 10gbe capable boards, that can probably all take at least 64gb ram, so these cou

Re: [agi] Hardware news

2019-07-08 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
rounce...@hotmail.com wrote: Why do gpus have 2048 cores when they should have 2048x2048. The Titan V has 5120 cores... Huge chip, actually it's a cut down GV100 due to defects, Here's a full-scale Quadro card: https://www.pny.com/nvidia-quadro-gv100 It's a $10,000 card though... -- Clowns

[agi] Physical limitations of GPUs..

2019-07-10 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Look, unless you have some 3D stacking technology or are using some kind of nanotechnology. (currently talking about 12nm), this is all you are going to get. Stacking silicon is limited by power density issues... Cooling these chips is already a herculean task... Here is an examination of th

[agi] The Hardware problem

2019-07-10 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I'm sure many of you are aware of this issue but I'll repeat it anyway because I had been allowing myself to get carried away thinking about what kind of hardware I'd throw at our resident genius' brain simulator. The fundamental problem is this paradox: A. We do not know what kind of hardware

Re: [agi] The Hardware problem

2019-07-11 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Steve Richfield wrote: Alan, I have a design concept for a digitally programmed analog computer chip capable of the bidirectional sorts of computing that neurons do. Think Xylinx, but with analog "gates" instead of digital gates embedded therein. Steve Back when I was a wee little kid, O

[agi] Hardware by paradigm.

2019-07-14 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Ok, let's try to evaluate the hardware problem on a more abstract level to try to get a better handle on what the missing pieces are. A computing system has three fundamental functions: 1. memory -> how much information can the computer contain? 2. Processing -> how can the computer manipulate

[agi] AGI: survey of what Might Work (tm)

2019-07-17 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I was warming up to re-hash my own AGI proposals again but realized I was starting to sound like the "buddy can you spare a quadrillion" guy... Well, the first approach that Really Should Work is to just build a brain: https://www.humanbrainproject.eu/en/brain-simulation/ The problem is that, a

[agi] From the somewhat cool dept.

2019-07-18 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
compare the graphs of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unijunction_transistor#Types https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_potential#Overview -- Clowns feed off of funny money; Funny money comes from the FED so NO FED -> NO CLOWNS!!!

Re: [agi] Mature mid-AGI Mens Latina

2019-07-25 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I think each mentifex post we allow on this list costs us two worth-while posts and 0.5 intelligent subscribers. -- Clowns feed off of funny money; Funny money comes from the FED so NO FED -> NO CLOWNS!!! Powers are not rights. -- Artificial General In

Re: [agi] Mother, mother

2019-07-27 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Yeah, here's a case where we have an intersection with politics. The primary motivation for these hearings is that some stunningly incriminating footage exists regarding a large number of high-ranking public officials and politicians. The intention of the hearing is to sew enough doubt into th

[agi] The hardware problem again...

2019-07-28 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
You know, if we actually do want to actually build an AGI (ie, a box that when switched on, thinks), we really do need a solution to the hardware problem, that is how much and what kind of computation (and IO too!) that we need. We also need an answer that is better than wait until 1-2-2029, t

[agi] Just stumbled across a really strange card:

2019-07-28 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
https://www.uaudio.com/uad-accelerators/uad-2-pcie.html Yeah, this is audio hardware for a specific application, not sure if it even beats the host machine but still, everything the brain does can be thought of in terms of signal processing so hardware like this is interesting too. -- Clow

[agi] My response to AGI.Blue

2019-07-29 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
?? ?? ?? C?? Y?? C EoD. -- Clowns feed off of funny money; Funny money comes from the FED so NO FED -> NO CLOWNS!!! Powers are not rights. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups

Re: [agi] My response to AGI.Blue

2019-07-29 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
ry failure, any AGI proposal that can be reduced to a variant on Cyc is therefore also a failure. -> End of Discussion. Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: I don't know, I mean... Do you have issues? Lost control of language? Just checking. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 17:22 Alan Grimes via AGI mail

Re: [agi] Controlled AI

2019-07-31 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: What do you think about the possibility of AI being "regulated" at all? They'll try... Lords yes, THEY WILL TRY!!! The first question is who will be doing the regulation. This will determine what goals the regulations will try to advance and what measures will b

[agi] The brain: wholistically.

2019-08-01 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
The cortical algorithm is interesting. Cortical columns are pretty sexy too because they're an obvious target for finding a high level algorithm that does the same or better. But regardless of how you implement cortex, the next thing you MUST do to achieve a full functioning mind is to impleme

[agi] From DNA to complex behaviors

2019-08-02 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
[Meta] I wish there were more discussion of my posts, my main goal has been to try to stimulate good discusisons of and feedback about the topics I'm bringing up... [] Ok, we haz DNA... DNA gives us pritines and also contains some features for RNA-based enzymes and regulatory sequences so th

Re: [agi] AJI

2019-08-04 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Secretary of Trades wrote: When it's not even able to run a robot simulator, but gives ears to the wall and eyes to the bike, it's called an Artificially Junk Idiocy https://www.zdnet.com/article/chinas-bizarre-chip-pumps-up-the-hype-in-a-i/ ugh... We need a governing committee and a standi

Re: [agi] can anyone here code a physics engine?

2019-08-05 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I've been wanting a test environment for ten years. =\ There are several half-assed attempts at AGI testing environments from Micro$oft and Fbk... There are also some robot simulators out there... Because it's such an obviously important thing to have, nobody really pays too much attention to

[agi] hardware yet again, can't resist!

2019-08-12 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I wonder how long it will be until we can have 256 threads and 4TB of ram in a 1U server? Oh wait, that's already available, it's EPYC!!! =P Okay, I'll try to dial back on these hardware news posts... I know there are some AGI and proto-AGI projects out there, what would I have to do to get a

Re: [agi] Narrow AGI

2019-08-14 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: I was wondering, what is currently regarded as being the best language to develop AI in? Python is the most popular these days, and that's why I have a python book on my desk rn. That said, I'd tend to shut down any discussion of low level implement

[agi] HARDWARE?!?!?!??!

2019-08-19 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I think part of the reason I can't let hardware news alone is that I'm super-stoked for AMD's Threadripper 3 and getting my grubby mitts on one. Release date unknown, possibly as early as Sept 7... Anyway, straight from the Holy Shit!! department: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49395577

[agi] by successive approximation.

2019-09-07 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
It's striking how muddled and confused AI and, especially, the AGI field is! The basic outline of an AGI black-box is: {m, s'} := f(p, s) Where m is the motor output, s is the state, and p is the perceptual stream. We make simplifying assumptions in that evolutionary has NOT found a way to c

Re: [agi] Genetic evolution of logic rules experiment

2019-09-25 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
James Bowery wrote: If you are acting on the environment to obtain information, you are "supervised" by the environment and your action involves decision theory parameterized by a value function in an explore/exploit tradeoff.?? ??This corresponds to engineering/technology and it is what livin

[agi] The world on the eve of the singularity.

2019-09-25 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
This is not a news post. I am simply taking the question of AGI "friendliness"/safety and flipping it around to look at the other side of the equation, the state of the world that the AGI will wake up to. I'm doing this mainly because I have nothing better to do. I'm not as smart as Koralean, a

[agi] The Job market.

2019-09-29 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I live in the DC area. That means just about every major employer in the area requires some level of a Top Secret Security clearance due to government contracts. These are only ever offered to the brightest college seniors from the local colleges. It takes about a year to actually secure one o

Re: [agi] The Job market.

2019-09-29 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
keghnf...@gmail.com wrote: ??Yes Americans will pay. They are only interested in turning inward and have intense drama between them.?? American turn outward and look to go to the stars. ??Yes they will ground us when they become in power. Same car model every year nothing new anymore no more i

Re: [agi] The Job market.

2019-10-03 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
WriterOfMinds wrote: That's why I have not yet mentioned the name of my employer and the fact that we need engineers badly. Every person who says that does so after tripping over ten unemployed, homeless, engineers on the way from their cars to the doors of their office. =| I'm contemplatin

[agi] updates

2019-10-11 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
This post covers:?? personal issues ; important economy news/PSA ; discussion of the AGI project I want to do. Because symptoms, I've started to monitor my blood sugar. I expected to find traces of blood in my sugar but it was actually the other way around. My morning numbers are around 90, tr

Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

2019-10-14 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Why, God, Why... Why have you sent us a lunatic even more deranged than Mentifex? Absolute brain torturing dementia in this post. I mean I could hit him over the head with an introduction to electronics text like I usually do but what's the point... He's just too stupid. he doesn't even know w

Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

2019-10-14 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
rounce...@hotmail.com wrote: Try it yourself at home - just needs 2 batteries and a capacitor in the middle, and test for the dicharge. ;) Why doubt what you havent tried? BATTERIES BATTERIES!?!?!?!??!?! YOU FUCKING CLOD, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A BATTERY IS!!! AMONG OTHER THINGS, A BATTERY

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: > If you write an AI, how will you write it? In a programming language, > yes? So are you not using words to make an AI? QED. Here's your DUNCE cap, now go sit in a corner -- Clowns feed off of funny money; Funny money comes from the FED so NO FED -> NO CLOWNS!!

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
rounce...@hotmail.com wrote: > so you dont believe in an inner symbolic representation in the mind > itself? At a fundamental level, it's an utterly absurd notion. Our "inner monologues" are actually our minds trying to find words to describe cognitive processes an order of magnitude more sophisti

Re: [agi] Re: putting models in your robots head

2019-10-28 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
doddy wrote: > take a look at this. > https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20181206-nvidia-ai-rendered-virtual-world This is getting ridiculous! We are so absurdly close to AGI it's insane! I mean even I could probably hack that into general intelligence and it wouldn't take me very long either... I

[agi] PSA: MLs != CHAT

2019-11-05 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Mail is a very different medium than chatrooms. -> mail should be long format, 2-3 paragraphs minimum. -> mail must not rely on it's ordering in sequence, different ppl sort their inboxes differently and messages may be radically out of order. So if you have something to say, make sure it's a sel

[agi] SOFTWARE

2019-11-11 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Have you seen what games look like these days? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx2Irm3ZFz8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjxS9ciNlII&list=PLpg6WLs8kxGNCJlSn8ROj0enB8zWSbMjr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weGf5cxD0Ys But then 15 years ago, they actually tried to give game charactors advanced

Re: [agi] Re: SOFTWARE

2019-11-12 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
rounce...@hotmail.com wrote: > I dont think openai would use tensorflow,?? theyd use their own > propreitry software.?? If they said they did they are lieing. > *Artificial General Intelligence List > * / AGI / see discussions >

Re: [agi] Who wants free cash for the support of AGI creation?

2019-11-16 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Bleh, I have ~$15k earmarked for AI work. Trouble is, the ante is between 3-5 million for even a pretty bare bones operation. Because getting really good VR is very difficult, I thought it would be easier going the robotics route. I wanted a NAO, not sure if they still exist. The real problem is

Re: [agi] Re: Information MetaCriterion

2019-11-22 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
=\ I really see turning the earth into goo as strongly undesirable. =| I mean find something that doesn't currently have any realestate value, goo that! Nobody will care. But places like: https://wvtourism.com/town-guide-elkins/ are seriously fucking scarce in this universe, so should be valued a

Re: [agi] Re: Information MetaCriterion

2019-11-22 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: > Don't like change? :) Everything dies. Your body/room is changing at > the particle level as you read this. Physics is taking its course. > Things are predictable. Nanobots are coming I'll make sure of it > 100%! Your land and valuables are just your idea

[agi] my dream development rig.

2019-12-01 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Today, I'm going to do something different again and sketch out the development rig I would really like. and some of my development objectives. First, lets start out with the workstation. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144276 Ok, that's what I want for my user console. The main thing is the 10

[agi] software == ARGH!!!

2019-12-25 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Ok, since i'm wasting my life anyway playing video games, I might as well do it in style so I got myself a t-rex for my winsuck machine. But having paid a king's ransom for the damn thing I feel obliged to at least try to program it. So I download CUDA tools, then I installed VS'19... so far so g

[agi] omg, it made it out of the lab!

2020-01-01 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
omg, it looks like the cerebras wafer scale chip is actually being deployed,  << shock >> https://www.anl.gov/article/argonne-national-laboratory-deploys-cerebras-cs1-the-worlds-fastest-artificial-intelligence-computer https://www.eetimes.com/powering-and-cooling-a-wafer-scale-die/# -- Clowns

Re: [agi] Re: General Intelligence vs. no-free-lunch theorem

2020-02-08 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
> Matt: "Software can simulate agents in an artificial world that can > make accurate predictions about that world while believing it is real > and completely different than what it really is." Fuck you. Produce it or shut the fuck up. > The world works by physics, and these software trained age

Re: [agi] Re: General Intelligence vs. no-free-lunch theorem

2020-02-09 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
What the fuck are you assholes doing? I mean dipshits like u have been spewing bullshit about how perfectly marvelous computer simulation will be for the last quarter century. Look, I need a platform to develop the motherfucking AI on. I need this shit. >>> BUT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST. <<< Wo

Re: [agi] Re: General Intelligence vs. no-free-lunch theorem

2020-02-10 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I feel I owe you a response on this but I really don't think I'm going to be joining a platform that can trace it's origins back to a DARPA mass surveilance program called "Life Log" and is run by a person who looks more like a gray than a human... I think a good step for you would be to write bet

[agi] My state of mind.

2020-02-12 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
While it's more than a bit startling to see active moderation on this list where it had been running wild for at least four years, I can't say I totally disagree. I think the intent of the poster was to probe whether the moderators were going to be a bunch of SJWs, and did the test a bit clumsily.

Re: [agi] My state of mind.

2020-02-13 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
James Bowery wrote: > Algorithmic Justice League   > "Join the Algorithmic Justice League in the movement towards equitable > and accountable AI." [insert expressions of shock and horor.] Well, at least the enemy is operating out in the open... I think it is a prett

Re: [agi] Explain your AGI

2020-02-14 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: > My basic plan is to make a really, really, good predictor for Text, > using Lossless Compression for evaluation obviously, and it should > 'talk' like GPT-2 and even better. BAKA! Text only seems easy because doing absurdly trivial computations on it has b

[agi] From the clue department

2020-02-16 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
A lot of well meaning ppl are talking about how to make truly unbiased AI... (or at least that's the impression I get..) The problem is that you don't truly understand what the word bias even means in current year... These days there is a Holy Dogma that demands that all people/groups/cultures/ci

Re: [agi] Re: Measuring Bias

2020-02-16 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
James Bowery wrote: > The social pseudosciences are responsible for this, as they are de > facto religious movements posing as science. Correct, you deserve a cookie. -- Clowns feed off of funny money; Funny money comes from the FED so NO FED -> NO CLOWNS!!! Powers are not rights. -

Re: [agi] My state of mind.

2020-02-17 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Robert Levy wrote: > Also, racism is not symmetric. >>> One side holds power. <<< The > elderly white men running this forum are the kind of people who find > this hard to understand. Ah! but why? Sorry, couldn't resist, this is not the hill I intend to die on but there are a lot of problems wi

[agi] Escaping learned hopelessness.

2020-02-18 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
This post suddenly got a bunch more difficult to write now that I know I'm writing for a mixed audience. =O?? This is really quite shocking beacuse the mere fact that I'm interested in a subject enough to join the mailing list is, generally speaking, an iron clad garantee that no woman would ever j

[agi] omg! so that's whats going on.

2020-02-19 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I just realized that the mail archives is not functioning like a traditional mail archives these days but is presentinting threads as forum posts... So that's why old-school e-mail users like me are so confused by these little "mee tooo!!" posts that keep showing up... They're supposed to be read o

[agi] fyi,

2020-02-22 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I don't have much to say at this very minute, but I've been holding on to this link for a few days and really should share it: https://www.technologyreview.com/f/615174/the-white-house-will-spend-hundreds-of-millions-more-on-ai-research/ -- Clowns feed off of funny money; Funny money comes from

Re: [agi] AGI questions

2020-02-23 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
=\ What about your proposal do you expect me/anyone to find desirable? Why will it actually be as nice as you seem to expect it to be? Why isn't self-directed self-evolution something we can agree is the best alternative and work towards providing everyone with the appropriate tools? immortal.

[agi] Interesting paper that came down the wire:

2020-03-02 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Regarding some good open issues in AI: https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.06177 -- Clowns feed off of funny money; Funny money comes from the FED so NO FED -> NO CLOWNS!!! Powers are not rights. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https:/

[agi] Understanding layers of data processing.

2020-03-03 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I'm baffled. Back in 1978 Douglas Hofstadter wrote his masterpiece, "Godel Escher Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid" (shortened to GEB:EGB). It is the one Essential Classic in the field of AI. I'd bring out my "Read A Book " youtube link but it has the prohibited word in it. =P Basically Hofstadter

[agi] I have an idea!

2020-03-19 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
This is a great idea. You'll love it! Guaranteed. =) Insetad of realizing that the Hard Times that I've been trying to warn people about have come, and we're really down to the wire in terms of time, lets instead find something thats provably tangental to AGI, namely text compression, and spend

[agi] The limitations of the validity of compression.

2020-03-21 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I had been holding back on flaming the compression threads because there is some level of validity to the approach. I mostly come from an engineering mindset, as in taking a robot or avatar and implementing all the capabilities of the human baseline. Another approach is the theoretical model and

Re: [agi] The limitations of the validity of compression.

2020-03-22 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: > > It's [imperative] you understand that all AI find/create patterns > because it lets them solve unseen problems the programmer never set > them to answer. And all of physics has patterns. The reason Earth will > become a fractal pattern of nanobot units terr

[agi] The bottom line.

2020-03-29 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
While it has been somewhat entertaining to watch Immortal Discoveries argue with himself, albeit somewhat incoherently, the bottom line remains. We need artificial superintelligence. The definiition is this is an artificial intelligence capable of all modes of human thought and able to do it better

[agi] Have you ever thought about...

2020-04-25 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Have you ever thought about what it would take to properly engineer a humanoid lifeform? I mean do a proper job of engineering, not just paint it orange and have buzzwords floating around it, but to do it right. Engineering is not just packratting bigger numbers, it's about balancing all equations

[agi] Mindlessness.

2020-05-13 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
U know something, I forgot why I just built myself a 3960x/96gb ram... I mean with all the new I/O capacity I could slot some pretty mean accelerator cards, with https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Offloading It might not even be that hard to program. I forgot why I bought the machine tho, kinda been mindles

[agi] Hardware: first look at Ampere

2020-05-18 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Nvidia has unveiled their Ampere generation (the sucessor to Turing). This is the flagship model, servers only.  The GA102 (3080) and possibly a GA101 (3080Ti or Titan) will be available to desktop/workstation users. I expect the full release possibly this fall, not later than this coming January.

[agi] Argonne Natl. Lab?

2020-05-20 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I'm seeing lots of reports about Argonne National Laboratory consuming lots of compute power for AI purposes, for example a nvidia supercomputer based on the A100 chip I mentioned. (600 petaflops for an off the shelf configuration. ) There isn't much on their website last I checked, anyone have an

[agi] Immortal Discoveries is an annoying person!

2020-05-21 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
om I'm genuinely annoyed by Immortal Discoveries! I mean lots of guys get hyped about transhumanism or AI or something but manias never last more than two weeks. So I.D. might actually have some potential here, but he squanders it on utterly silly problems that will inevitably carry him in the d

[agi] Learn to argue!

2020-05-23 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Mainly I'm talking to Wheatley but everyone is welcome to join in or take the advice I'm trying to encourage Wheatley to do. I mean I really want you to learn basic meditation techniques in order to understand, on your own, why you are wrong about what you need to solev to make AGI. Here is how

[agi] Bridging the gap.

2020-05-24 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
The history of computer science is the history of artifical intelligence efforts. Many things like SQL databases and stuff came from early AI efforts that turned out to be useful products but not appreciably intelligent. Prolog came from attempts to solve machine reasoning. The claim that a projec

[agi] Metaprogramming: the forgotten art.

2020-05-25 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Ok, it seems we have lost a concept here, that of metaprogramming. In classic interpreted languages such as Lisp, etc, it was possible to write programs that write programs. When you think of AGI that needs to optimize itself for its platform and continually adapt to its environment, it should qui

[agi] Microsoft and Boogaloo.

2020-05-26 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
We gotta talk a bit about the state of the world rn. Q talks about a plan but it's going very slowly and we are not sure if all of his chess moves will be done in time to stave off the Boogaloo. Q is awesome at James Bond type stuff but I don't think any in the Q group truly understands what is go

[agi] What's your problem stack?

2020-05-28 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I'm still trying to extract from Wheatley an argument as to why his idea is great... Let's think about this in terms of a problem stack... We place at the bottom of the problem stack: "Well I decided to deviate from my daily routine because Reasons". (We use Reasons to cut off a much lengthier di

Re: [agi] Mindlessness.

2020-06-01 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
=\ It's a more complex story than that Some people are philisophical anarchists and point to the abuses of government power and say the simplest solution is to abolish that power. My evil roomate is one such person, to some degree at least. The other type of anarchist is a trained and regula

Re: [agi] Mindlessness.

2020-06-01 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: > There was a segment where Dr. Evil said oh no the pandemic didn't > work, how bout Race War? That is precisely correct. =( -- The vaccine is a LIE. Powers are not rights. -- Artificial General Intelligence List:

[agi] [offtopic] What's next.

2020-06-02 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Well, since we now have a sequence of two events that the "deep state" has orchestrated and hopefully we will be able to put behind us soon, what's next? Alex Jones thinks the next event will be a FAKED alien landing. It will all be done with holograms and special effects with maybe some suppresse

[agi] The world within which we live.

2020-06-03 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
As world events are intruding into the orderly society and continued technological development that we require to build AGI, let's review the root causes of the problems we are are facing. 1. the bank. Yes, seriosuly, the bank. =| | No kidding, the bank. The problem is that the way the bank wo

Re: [agi] Mindlessness.

2020-06-08 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: > The ending of this video is so creepy lol, the music is creepy start > at 8:05 > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/george-floyd-investigation.html > it's like zombie Apocalypse If you want to go deeper into this, you will need to find some information th

[agi] So what do you need to go beyond text compression?

2020-06-08 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Yo, Wheatley, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgCRA3H5btI What do you need to go beyond text compression? What I need is a VR environment and avatar system within the programming ability of mere mortals... So what kind of hardware/staffing do you need for your next step? -- The vaccine is a L

[agi] Boogaloo news.

2020-06-17 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
I have a post about software and systems design in my head, that I may get to in ~ a week or so. Right now I need to reply to Wheatley's well intentioned but slightly misguided post about the civil unreset in the USA. First, ignore what the mainstream media says, all of it is mind-poison. All of

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