Re: [AFMUG] Mailing List Rate Limiting or Having Issues?

2025-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* but I should at least be able to see it enter the Google, MS, etc. blob and then exit. -- Mike Hammett - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, March 24, 2025 10:35:20 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mailing List Rate Limiting or Ha

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Chris Fabien
"Rural side roads in IL are a bitch because the government doesn't own the underlying asset, so you still have to get an easement from every landowner along the way." This seems like insanity to me... how does anything ever get ran underground? Back 10 years ago when I thought ROW permitting was h

Re: [AFMUG] OT Aviation

2025-03-24 Thread chuck
All NCOs so far. I worked with one former lt Col once. He was not terribly bright and he was a bit of a liar. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, March 24, 2025 8:16 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Aviation My experience with vets is that they are comfortab

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
Can you meet the FCC minimums today, at the same distances as you could when the minimums came in? Nope. You would have to get closer to the customer., that means buildout. and when the minimum is inevitably 500 mb, youll buildout again, and when its a gig, youll build out again, getting closer and

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dopamine

2025-03-24 Thread Jan-GAMs
Ever see "Person of Interest?"  You'll never be able to hide again. On 3/24/25 14:26, Steve Jones wrote: It is strange days seeing Chuck troll facebook. The place is a toxic cesspool of corruption. I only ever got on it cause i lost all the pics of my sons first year when i formatted a hard dri

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
Satellite has a planned obsolescence so will maintain cyclical growth, but will hit the same hurdles. Still a better placement of fed money than fixed wireless, but not the same as fiber On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 6:09 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > OK, I see. > > > > BTW, what would you say about satellit

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Every square inch is owned by somebody. From what I understand, the townships (and, in some cases, the county) have an easement for a road, but that doesn't include anyone else for any other use. Electric, phone, and natural gas all have their own easements. The state owns their land. Cities, t

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
Your DOT comment reminded me.yeah we work in some areas where they require an open trench. There's also at least one area we work in where the city puts a 5 year moratorium on any cutting of pavement after the road has been resurfaced. You could dig to restore service, but you can't put in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Aviation

2025-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
My experience with vets is that they are comfortable with following established processes and procedures, and they are accustomed to following orders without complaint. That can be very good. If you need someone who needs to improvise or think on their feet make sure you are getting a former N

Re: [AFMUG] Mailing List Rate Limiting or Having Issues?

2025-03-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
These days with big company email, I assume headers are no longer useful. Once it hits Google or Microsoft or whatever, it disappears into the void. Even identifying the original sender is usually impossible. You were lucky in this case to get so much information. It's like reverse DNS. Half the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Aviation

2025-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
An anecdote from a military person on Quora said that some armies train people to prioritize shooting officers in an attempt to break down command and control. He added that it's a bad idea to do that to an American force because if you kill the officers then the NCO's are in charge now, and al

Re: [AFMUG] OT Aviation

2025-03-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yep, I worked at a company once that hired a bunch of people just out of military service. They were referred to as the “hut hut hut” people. But echoing your comment about former NCOs, during the first year or so of the war between Ukraine and Russia, there was a lot more press coverage (or

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
It's not generally done around here. There's a common belief that frost heave will be an issue. I think you've disagreed with that, but I don't know enough to argue either side of it. From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 5:45 PM T

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Sprint ran 400G waves on their network 12 years ago. Sprint has some of the oldest fiber out there. -- Mike Hammett - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2025 7:51:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BEAD fiber installed in

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
"Same with aerial, I assume there is a limit to how many cables can be attached to the poles." Yeahand no. Short version: You can keep putting in taller poles, but there are practical limits. If they're longer than 55ft the transportation of the pole to the site becomes a problem and you

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
With as cheap as Frontier duct is, I wish I could do it more often, but they've ignored their duct banks, so there is a lot of compromised pipe. -- Mike Hammett - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, March 24, 2025 8:52:56 AM S

Re: [AFMUG] Mailing List Rate Limiting or Having Issues?

2025-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
If it's a rate limit because I sent so many messages at once, I understand. I sent about 10 - 15 messages to the list over 1.5 hours. I mean, it's not a LOT lot, but it's more than normal. -- Mike Hammett - Original Message - From: "Chuck" To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: af@af.afmug.com Sen

Re: [AFMUG] Property Tax

2025-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm curious if anyone else has an answer on this? I imagine it comes down to whether the locality considers an enclosure real property and whether they have a minimum square footage, but I'm curious about anecdotal stuff as well. I now understand we'll pay the tangible/personal property tax in

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
https://maps.app.goo.gl/DT6mcZJdjBKQBdxp9 -- Mike Hammett - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2025 7:54:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BEAD if I hop on 23 and stop at the flashing light I'm in hammettland? On Sun

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
That is a fantastic quote. I hope Einstein really said it. From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2025 11:28 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BEAD I don’t understand why fiber is just some electronics but wireles

Re: [AFMUG] OT good book

2025-03-24 Thread chuck
I would call that just being a good company. Stakeholder capitalism as defined in the book also tries to make climate change people and water conservation people and social justice people all happy. The pursuit of global ESG ratings drove many companies toward low profits. They are mostly

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Just from memory (dangerous), I though it was a minimum of 100/20 and had to be “reliable”, meaning fiber, cable or licensed FWA. And I didn’t think satellite qualified as “reliable”. Each state could have their own definitions though. The BEAD money was allocated to states based on FCC/NT

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, I see. BTW, what would you say about satellite? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 24, 2025 3:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BEAD Can you meet the FCC minimums today, at the same distances as you could when the minimums came in?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dopamine

2025-03-24 Thread chuck
Depends, on industry pages and groups I behave myself. But on crazy friends pages, I give them the full dose now and then. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 24, 2025 3:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Dopamine It is strange days

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dopamine

2025-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
It is strange days seeing Chuck troll facebook. The place is a toxic cesspool of corruption. I only ever got on it cause i lost all the pics of my sons first year when i formatted a hard drive. I was just going to use it to archive photos. I was a good person in those days. Facebook made me the irr

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
I assume they have to rent it on a cost recovery formula just like pole rental. Verizon NY got sick of midnight man-holing so now all non-emergency access requires a Verizon watchman present. We have to schedule that guy a couple of weeks in advance, and we get invoiced $155/hour for him to sta

Re: [AFMUG] 100 Mbps for $15 California Bill

2025-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
A lot of those metrics are also misleading. It's also typically a left person picking metrics they care about as opposed to metrics a right person would care about... and vice versa. Both groups have a hard time with telling the other group of people that they know better about how the other gro

Re: [AFMUG] OT Aviation

2025-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
But also, then it would have to be fair and not punitive. - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 1:45:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Aviation They attack "DEI" because no one knows what it's about. If they had called it "fairness i

Re: [AFMUG] OT Aviation

2025-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
People haven't figured out how to dampen the pendulum. They'd rather attach a rocket to it. - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 1:07:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Aviation People have explained the anti-DEI

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
"pay prevailing wage anytime you're doing work in a ROW where a permit was required" Surely someone has sued over that... - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 1:57:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BEAD $15-20/s