Sprint ran 400G waves on their network 12 years ago. Sprint has some of the 
oldest fiber out there.




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Mike Hammett

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2025 7:51:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BEAD



fiber installed in the 80s is capable of ten gig. the infrastructure stays the 
same as technology grows. when I started in wireless we could serve most 
anybody with good capacity 15 to 20 miles out all day long. fiber is just some 
electronics, wireless requires build outs. not a drop of tax dollar should go 
to that 


On Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 1:12 PM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Is GPON good enough? That can only do gigabit and each port is 2.5G. Should 
these projects require NGPON? Or maybe every location should have AE so they 
can do 100G to start with. 


On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 2:01 PM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Because in X years they won't be. With fiber they will be upon the same 
Infrastructure. 


On Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 10:59 AM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



But people that currently have fixed wireless of 100x20 are sufficiently 
served? How does that make any sense? 


On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 11:44 AM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



they should not allow fixed wireless, they never should have allowed technology 
with a short shelf life 




On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 9:17 AM Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 





Well.... 


https://bsky.app/profile/craigsilverman.bsky.social/post/3lkiye5n2dk2p 


https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/s/seq3uoU1L5 


The director of BEAD quit. He says the previous rules interpreted the bill to 
mean that only FTTH would meet the performance and future-proofing 
requirements. He is claiming that there are proposed rule changes that will 
allow Starlink but not allow fixed wireless. I don't know whether the changes 
intentionally benefit Starlink, but this guy is crying foul and felt strongly 
enough about it to resign over it. 



-Adam 


From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2025 12:19 AM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] BEAD 



I’m surprised BEAD hasn’t run into problems because the E stands for Equity and 
DEI is now banned. 



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