Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Steve Jones
I hope the first EO puts a moratorium on all funding until each program is independently reviewed, historic outcomes are weighed and public hangings commence. All this free money has done was oversaturated some markets, pushed small players out in exchange for monopolies in others and wasted money

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread tpatel
That will help stabilize the price of the products too. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 11:03 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD Personally, I want BEAD dead

[AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Bill Prince
I presume some (most?) of you are getting BEAD money. This is purely speculation at this point, but it's always good to keep your eyes open. https://www.fierce-network.com/broadband/what-trump-win-could-mean-bead-program -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailma

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread tpatel
Yup. I agree. I hope that will lessen the interest of private equity too. Tushar -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 11:03 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD Pe

Re: [AFMUG] ISP level DHCP server

2024-11-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Mark, We're using Calix. I simply do a Mikrotik DHCP server. In time I may move over to Kea. Both work with our billing software. All customers are u6x with RG. On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 10:44 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF < af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > Sterling, > > > > We are using Calix,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Most are DEFINITELY not prepared for BEAD. So much red tape, so much bullshit. I'd prefer it to just go away, but the government has to be the hero to save the day (never mind it's spent millions and gotten 0 feet in the ground). We may try for it, we'll see what volume 2 says. It has been "soo

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Same here. I see not just Starlink but 5G Home Internet (T-Mobile and Verizon) and privately funded fiber racing to gain customers before BEAD projects get built. If people are happy and the price is right, it's not clear they would switch to the BEAD fiber once it gets built. And even with the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Bill Prince
That is kind of my point. I know several WISPs/FISPs in this area who have been awarded significant money and are in various stages of deployment. bp On 11/8/2024 10:59 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF wrote: Ken, From experience, any government grant/loan project will cost at least 5

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread tpatel
BEAD money has not been allocated to anyone yet. It may be from the COVID program (I forget what was that called). Tushar -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 1:27 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread chuck
We are not expecting to see any for perhaps a year. Certainly 6 months. -Original Message- From: tpa...@ecpi.com Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 12:36 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD BEAD money has not been allocated

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Chuck
I want bead money. I might be able to get a little. If I can’t get any I want bead dead. Can’t you all say the same? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2024, at 10:43 AM, tpa...@ecpi.com wrote: > > That will help stabilize the price of the products too. > > -Original Message- > From:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF
Ken, >From experience, any government grant/loan project will cost at least 50% more >to do than if the government wasn't involved. I think we are too deep into the process to yank it back. Most states have already started, contracts have been signed. Best we can hope for is some of the unne

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
BEAD? Or some other program? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 1:27 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD That is kind of my point. I know several WISPs/FISPs in this area who have been awarded

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Friends don't let friends take BEAD money. I'm somehow reminded of the Hall & Oates song that was on the radio yesterday, "Maneater". Watch out boy, she'll chew you up. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 1:40 PM To: AnimalFarm Microw

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Bill Prince
Yes, it was BEAD as far as I know (I'm not there, but I've seen some people congratulating one another). Maybe it was some other program, but the awards were 7 and 8 figures. bp On 11/8/2024 12:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: BEAD? Or some other program? -Original Message- From: AF On B

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-08 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Personally, I want BEAD dead. It's a huge waste of tax dollars when the free market has solved it. There are numerous options for nearly every single American. Take that billion dollars and pay off 1/36000th of our debt. Jim Bouse Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 -Original Message- From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching

2024-11-08 Thread Chris Fabien
You might find these interesting also: https://www.amazon.com/QIANRENON-Receiver-Filtering-Function-Conversion/dp/B0BYZCSTMD On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:41 PM wrote: > So for $8.50 you can convert 1550 fiber to F connector? Great Scott! > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2024

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching

2024-11-08 Thread Chuck
I wonder how it works without power?Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 8, 2024, at 5:31 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:You might find these interesting also:https://www.amazon.com/QIANRENON-Receiver-Filtering-Function-Conversion/dp/B0BYZCSTMDOn Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:41 PM wrote: So for $8.50

Re: [AFMUG] ISP level DHCP server

2024-11-08 Thread Chris Fabien
Mark, With Calix this is a few settings in the VLAN config for the data service vlan. For a typical DHCP data vlan you'll probably want: HEMLOCK-E7-2_1# show running-config vlan 121 vlan 121 description DHCP_DATA l2-dhcp-profile SNOOP_SINGLE source-verify ENABLED mff ENABLED !

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching

2024-11-08 Thread Chris Fabien
It's powered via the light from the fiber. I bought a few for testing, they work fine although it takes a lot of light to get enough RF power out to run a normal household with ~4 TVs. We ended up using the powered ones for that reason. On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 AM Chuck wrote: > I wonder how

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching

2024-11-08 Thread Chuck
I guess you have mW available to make microvolts.  Pretty clever.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 8, 2024, at 7:07 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:It's powered via the light from the fiber. I bought a few for testing, they work fine although it takes a lot of light to get enough RF power out to run a normal hous