Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread chuck
The browser-tab title goes hereIt worked... with 450. Best Regards, Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 Office 435-830-4306 Cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench.pro www.terabitnetworks.com From: Shayne Lebrun Sent: Tuesday, Octo

Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

2024-10-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
We took down our last 2 FSK (PMP100) SMs today. 2.4 GHz. One had a "SuperStinger". Still need to take down a couple Cyclone APs at 140 ft.We acquired a smartBridges WISP in 2005. Switched to Tranzeo, then Canopy FSK, then moved all the 2.4 customers to 3.65 GHz PMP450 now CBRS.The 2 today were

Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

2024-10-22 Thread Bill Prince
Now there is a blast from the past; smartBridges. We had a few of those that we used for short client-client links, Little blue and white metal boxes about 6" square. Most of them got retired after a year or two when the boxes sprang a leak and let rainwater in. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

2024-10-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
If you have to say you’re smart, you probably aren’t. But sometimes dumb is good. I love how people are now nostalgic about the original Motorola RAZR flip phone after deriding it for most of 20 years. I had one. I think people miss the point. It was intuitive, it had big buttons, and yo

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
There's a webinar in about a week for those of us who weren't at WISPAPALOOZA. Matt Mangriotis had talked about an illusive product called 450mv. If I were Cambium, I would cancel that and/or redirect the development to become this Evo thing. But prune the wish list to get availability into 2

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I still have APs with the FSK connector. Never opened one up, but someone told me there was electronics behind it, not just an N connector.Great example of a marketing feature that if it's late enough, customers no longer care, don't bother. Plug the hole and move on. Original Message Fr

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread chuck
The browser-tab title goes hereIn my memory, the FSK was never functional. I may be wrong. Or perhaps you could not talk to FSK and QAM APs mixed. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 2:38 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo I still have APs with the FSK co

Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

2024-10-22 Thread Shayne Lebrun
Not an old Waverider AP? Shayne Lebrun Senior Systems Analyst [Logo Description automatically generated] Support: supp...@lakelandnetworks.com 705-640-0556 | TF: 844-444-4249 Direct: sleb...@lakelandnetworks.com 705-646

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread Shayne Lebrun
Say, remember when we were supposed to get an AP that would talk both FSK and 450? Shayne Lebrun Senior Systems Analyst [Logo Description automatically generated] Support: supp...@lakelandnetworks.com 705-640-0556 | TF: 844-444-4249 Direct: sleb...@lakeland

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Never functional, at least on retail units. I assume they had some in the lab for development. It's possible the hardware was there, just not enabled in the firmware, but customers couldn't use it for anything. Who knows, maybe there were hidden commands, or memory locations you could peek and p

Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

2024-10-22 Thread Robert
And who was the brilliant engineer that came up with the power connectors for Smartbridge with positive on the outside and neg center!! On 10/22/24 3:10 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Now there is a blast from the past; smartBridges. We had a few of those that we used for short client-client links, Lit

Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

2024-10-22 Thread Robert
The feature I liked best was the voicemail _on_the_phone...   No dialing a cloud to retrieve.   I would be off skiing in the delta and going through the voicemails without having to have a connection... On 10/22/24 3:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: If you have to say you’re smart, you probably aren’

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread Josh Luthman
FSK was working in beta... On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 4:47 PM wrote: > In my memory, the FSK was never functional. I may be wrong. > Or perhaps you could not talk to FSK and QAM APs mixed. > > > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2024 2:38 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* R

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread Tyson Burris
Folks, I don’t give two shits what anyone says. The FSK and 430 combo was the first promise made and the first to be broken after the Motorola Canopy buyout. 450 wasn’t even in the works. I still have the emails explaining why it had to be abandoned. This company has a HISTORY of making promise

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread Bill Prince
My difficulty with the concept is that the "e" in ePMP mostly meant the economy achieved by using off the shelf silicon. If the EVO manages to somehow use off the shelf silicon, then maybe they have a winner? but only if the PMP part of the equation manages to include features that are not part of

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I actually like Matt, probably because I used to be in product development and he’s kind of an old school product manager. It’s hard to know the dynamics inside Cambium, but I get the feeling he has been assigned the red headed stepchild of a product line to manage, and insufficient resources o

[AFMUG] OT movie

2024-10-22 Thread Chuck
Netflix. 25 min short. “The Turnaround “ Well worth it. Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] ?ADSS?

2024-10-22 Thread Mike Hammett
My contractor said they've had the power company try to get them to pay for poles that were already out of spec, which they aren't allowed to do, so free pole upgrades! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Me

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread dmmoffett
I believe anything is possible if we don't care what the equipment costs. Tarana may have demonstrated that there's still a market for premium products as long as they deliver premium capabilities. That said, I'd assume ePMP and PMP are not talking to the AP on the same radios. Maybe you get

Re: [AFMUG] ?ADSS?

2024-10-22 Thread dmmoffett
It all depends. The wildcard on aerial is the make-ready. Installing aerial cable is nearly always cheaper than underground, but the make-ready work can easily flip that around. You can't attach in violation of NESC clearances (-well you *can*, but you're not *allowed*. I don't want to get into

Re: [AFMUG] ?ADSS?

2024-10-22 Thread dmmoffett
Here I’d say they’re pretty good at identifying whether it was a pre-existing issue. Our problem is the Elco field engineers are trigger happy with pole replacements in general. People often attribute it to the Elco wanting to upgrade their plant with your money. I’m more inclined to think it

Re: [AFMUG] ?ADSS?

2024-10-22 Thread Bill Prince
"actual dirt". Now there's a concept. Around here we have stretches that are solid rock. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 5:49 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > My contractor said they've had the power company try to get them to pay > for poles that were already out of spec, whic

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo

2024-10-22 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I won't believe anything until I see it. I feel that cambium is looking at moving to an architecture where the AP is a FPGA based SDR that talks to SMs that use off the shelf Silicon. Assuming it works, one can then leverage the cost savings of the cheap 802.11 chipsets on the SM side while still

Re: [AFMUG] ?ADSS?

2024-10-22 Thread chuck
I had one small town owned power company want me to replace every pole for make ready. The Kentucky microtrench was really nanotrench. Now-a-days microtrench puts the conduit 6”+ below the bottom of the asphalt. Trenches are typically 12-16” deep with flowfill on top. They don’t heave.