Re: [AFMUG] We Want Your Ideas

2022-07-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I have always found it semi humorous that they named the new digital protocol ATSC. The old one, NTSC got the moniker "never the same color" (or some slight variation) due to the fact that no two TV sets seemed to render colors the same way because of the way that color was transmitted and interp

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Josh Luthman
WISPA is absolutely fighting this. We absolutely did not want this. There's way more opposition than WISPA has resources, but we still did get some wins. On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 11:12 PM Steve Jones wrote: > I'm sure wispa is out there looking out for us > That is sarcasm > Wispa isnt what itwa

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I requested help under the service providers smaller than 100K will get assistance from the commission. We will see what kind of assistance I get. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 8:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC WISPA is absolutely fight

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I wonder if I can get away with being an ethernet service provider with free access to the internet thrown in... From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 8:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC WISPA is absolutely fighting this. We absolutely did not want

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Ethernet/GPON doesn't matter. It's copper versus optical delivery. :) On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 11:21 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I wonder if I can get away with being an ethernet service provider with > free access to the internet thrown in... > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, Jul

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Bill Prince
electrons vs photons bp On 7/21/2022 11:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Ethernet/GPON doesn't matter.  It's copper versus optical delivery. :) On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 11:21 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I wonder if I can get away with being an ethernet service provider with free acces

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
But what types of business does it apply to? I am sure that I can find a loophole. Like I deliver virtual ice cream via ethernet so it should not apply to me. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 12:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Josh Luthman
>Facilities-based providers of fixed and mobile broadband internet access who have one or more end user connections in service on June 30, 2022 On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 3:35 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > But what types of business does it apply to? I am sure that I can find a > loophole. Like I deli

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
“Internet access”. If I am strictly a layer 2 pipe providing transport - only then I am not a provider of internet. If someone coincidentally connects it to layer 3 things... well then that is outside of my control. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 1:41 PM To: Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Jason McKemie
I haven't been reading up on this, is this the new form 477 replacement with increased requirements? On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 2:51 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > “Internet access”. If I am strictly a layer 2 pipe providing transport - > only then I am not a provider of internet. If someone coi

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/21/22 7:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: WISPA is absolutely fighting this.  We absolutely did not want this. There's way more opposition than WISPA has resources, but we still did get some wins. Since shutting down the majority of my ISP operations I have literally 5 street addresses I wil

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Not a new version but a whole new other report in addition to 477 I think. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 21, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > >  > I haven't been reading up on this, is this the new form 477 replacement with > increased requirements? > >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 2:5

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Cameron Crum
We have a solution for filing with PE certification at www.regulatorysolutions.us if you need assistance. Cameron On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 4:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Not a new version but a whole new other report in addition to 477 I think. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 21, 2022,

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Yes, but your solution is equivalent to my annual net profit as I am such a new and small company. I am complaining to the FCC penury. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 3:23 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC We have a solution for filing with P

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Cameron Crum
Understood. We can work with very small providers. We aren't trying to put anyone out of business. We do have some fixed costs like the PE unless you want to self certify. I believe you qualify, or will at least for the waiver on the next 3 filings. Cameron On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 4:36 PM Chuck M

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

2022-07-21 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
The waiver should be made permanent. The quality of the data will not suffer. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 3:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC Understood. We can work with very small providers. We aren't trying to put anyone out of busin