Re: [AFMUG] OT - song from 50 years ago

First time I met my wife I thought she said her name was Joni Mitchell. Close, Jenny. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2020, at 10:35 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Radio station played a song I haven’t heard for a while – Big Yellow Taxi by > Joni Mitchell. From before most of the folks on

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

Yes, It is still a thing. ARIN is still offering that from what I can tell. However, we were able to get a /24 without going that route 5-6 months back. Looks like you can still do that, but will need to wait 2 months or so. We are just starting the process to get a new /24. Chuck, let

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

Get your ASN first. Draw up a list of your customers you're bringing online, that might get you a v4 /24. First name and address kind of thing. If you get stuck with an ARIN response shoot me a message, I've done it a few times and played the game. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-

[AFMUG] OT We has snow

Went from 98 degrees to 48 degrees over the weekend. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT We has snow

For some reason my youtube recommendations started showing me weather videos of all the snow in Colorado/Wyoming. My favorite one was in Yellowstone, a bison just covered in snow, just lumbering along the side of the road without a care in the world. Isn't Denver supposed to go from 90 on Mon

Re: [AFMUG] OT We has snow

Similar here in SW MN. More like 88 to 48 here but still a shock. On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:58 AM wrote: > Went from 98 degrees to 48 degrees over the weekend. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > - -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] OT - song from 50 years ago

I also did some googling, and found this explanation about the concept for the song. It doesn't explain the meaning of who her old man (or the taxi) was, but I'm thinking it's a metaphor for something else altogether. W

[AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

So today I looked over my kingdom and realized I'm sitting on $96,000 worth of IPv4 space. But, much like the stock market it's only worth that if you sell it. On the other hand, I'm using those IPs to run my business. At what point does it make sense to sell them and just NAT everyone bec

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

Also, WISPA and ARIN are putting on a Webinar on Thursday on how to request IP Addresses. This link should get you registered: http://members.wispa.org/ct.php?lid=80639459&mm=42840087489 Not sure if it is specific to our organization or not. Regards, David Coudron -Original Message---

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

No, but it’s a consideration for the balance sheet. The value is a large reason that the community (ARIN) allows transfer sales. The intention is to have the price of IPv4 increase to the point it gets people to move to IPv6 and sell the IPv4 space. Eventually the value of IPv4 addresses w

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

Thanks -Original Message- From: David Coudron Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 8:41 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs Also, WISPA and ARIN are putting on a Webinar on Thursday on how to request IP Addresses. This link should get you registered: h

Re: [AFMUG] OT - song from 50 years ago

and then there is this. *There are various slight alterations of the lyrics from different versions. Joni Mitchell's original version runs:* *They took all the trees* *And put them in a tree museum* *Then they charged the people**A dollar and a half just to see 'em* *whereas in Amy Grant's vers

Re: [AFMUG] OT We has snow

We are 100 today ..55 tomorrow On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 8:10 AM Carl Peterson wrote: > Similar here in SW MN. More like 88 to 48 here but still a shock. > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:58 AM wrote: > >> Went from 98 degrees to 48 degrees over the weekend. >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

A friend has a /16   Due to issues with ARIN selling it is problematic.   So he leases it out.  I was the one who advised him to hold onto it when he thought of selling it 15 years ago.  So he gives me a commission. ( good friend! ).   The $200/month commission is a nice perk.   I hope ipv4 nev

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

I don't see how it can -- even though many say it will. I just don't see how it can. It's a chicken and egg situation. Who is he leasing it through? That sounds like an interesting way to make recurring revenue. On 9/8/20 10:52 AM, Robert wrote: A friend has a /16   Due to issues with ARIN

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

Only if you intend to implement CGNAT or vigorous adoption of IPv6. Otherwise, it's like cutting off your arm and eating it. Oddly, I've never heard that IP space assets count much in valuation when selling your WISP, they should. Depending on how the sale is structured, the buyer probably still

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

I don't see IPv4 going away for a very long time, but I think that we will eventually get to the point where IP addresses will have little or no value. Eventually, most stuff is going to be on IPv6, at which point some form of NAT is going to be fine to handle what's left IPv4 only. On Tue, Sep 8,

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

A transfer of assets required no or very minimal justification of the IPs. And yes, absolutely, it should be considered in a sale. On 9/8/20 11:16 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Only if you intend to implement CGNAT or vigorous adoption of IPv6. Otherwise, it's like cutting off your arm and eating it.

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

You don't need the as right away just the ipv4 and a loa will get you online On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 7:44 AM wrote: > Thanks > > -Original Message- > From: David Coudron > Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 8:41 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs > > Also

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

Sure if you have the steps written down, I would love a copy. I just applied for an account this morning. From: David Coudron Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:02 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs Yes, It is still a thing. ARIN is still offering that

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

Funny Arin’s help desk phone number is not working. From: David Coudron Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:02 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs Yes, It is still a thing. ARIN is still offering that from what I can tell. However, we were able to get

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

I haven’t found the template yet. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 12:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs Theres a template you download. If I could figure it out, youllnhave no issue. It's pretty straight forward and you can be as liberal

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

I don’t have a formal list of steps, but basically as a first time applier as an ISP, I think you move to the top of the list to get a /24. I am working from memory, but this is how I remember it. I will also be applying for a new block and will validate steps. 1. Get your ARIN number (

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

On 9/8/20 9:02 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I haven’t found the template yet. They don't do those anymore for the most part; you fill out stuff online. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

Thanks, working on it now. From: David Coudron Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs I don’t have a formal list of steps, but basically as a first time applier as an ISP, I think you move to the top of the list to get a /2

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

you don't need the as# right now unless you plan on doing bgp right away, otherwise just apply for the ipv4 and use a LOA template from google to authorize your transit provider to advertise your routes. On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:46 AM wrote: > Thanks, working on it now. > > *From:* David Coudron

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

OK, waiting on them to give me an organization number. It says it will take a day or three. From: TJ Trout Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:50 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs you don't need the as# right now unless you plan on doing bgp right away, o

Re: [AFMUG] OT We has snow

60-80 here. I'm happy being here :) [image: image.png] Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 10:51 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > We are 100 today ..55 tomorrow > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 8:10 AM Carl Peterson > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo de res , arroz y chile verde

Is there a recipe for the chili sauce? Jaime Solorza wrote: Nope..same On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 9:13 PM Steve Jones > wrote: Is mexican muenster different than deli muenster and is it smoked? I like it with a dry smoked rind, I'm not sure if you're suppos

[AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

A birdie told me that today is Jay Fuller's 50th birthday. The birdie is just a birdie, so don't blame me if I'm wrong. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

50?! Holy cow, that's old! ;-) Yes, I know many, many of you are much older. I jab equally. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: "AFMUG" Sent: Tues

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

its like the combustion engine, yes, its going out of style, just not likely at a pace we will see in our lifetimes. Just wait til the Seatle type never worked a day but dress like a lumberjack with a perfectly trimmed beard hipsters find out that IP4 is "retro". you can host them a geocities flat

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

I think it's higher than that. Mike Hammett wrote: 50?! Holy cow, that's old! ;-) Yes, I know many, many of you are much older. I jab equally. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

Bite your tongue..my socks are older On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 12:19 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > 50?! Holy cow, that's old! > > > > > ;-) > > > > Yes, I know many, many of you are much older. I jab equally. :-) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

I'm aware of a company that had a /19.  They sold a /20 for I think $40k and kept the other half, and they still had more IP's than customers. I think we're at or near a tipping point with IPv6.  At some point in the past having IPv6 was like being the only guy with a fax machine.  At this poi

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

On 9/8/20 12:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: if I was starting fresh today that is.  If you already are handing out public v4 addresses and now you take them away then you'll have to deal with a few restless natives who can't login to their NVR anymore or whose XBox has "strict NAT" all of a sud

[AFMUG] OT: Cobra Kai

I got through season 1 of Cobra Kai on Neflix over the long weekend.  I expected a corny reboot of an 80's franchise...but it's quite a bit smarter than that. Likes: Reviewing the Karate Kid story through the eyes of the antagonist.  Danny Larusso was certainly not blameless in that story.  T

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

Maybe 50 hexadecimal? It’s my birthday too, but 70. I guess 50 hex would be 80 decimal. From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 2:42 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today? Bite your tongue..my socks are

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

Happy birthday Ken. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 3:54 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today? Maybe 50 hexadecimal? It’s my birthday too, but 70. I guess 50 hex would be 80 decimal. From: AF On Behalf Of Jaim

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

Even better. That would make you 46. I should start tracking my age in hex. bp On 9/8/2020 2:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Maybe 50 hexadecimal?   It’s my birthday too, but 70.  I guess 50

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cobra Kai

I watched episode one out of nostalgia, figured it would be a lame reboot, we ended up watching both seasons, my daughter even put down her phone. Turns out danielsan is a real dickhead. I do take issue with black belts being obtained in a couple months, Thats kind of insulting to people who worked

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

Do they even teach binary and hexadecimal in school anymore? I was a “New Math” child (SMSG), but new math is now derided as elitist and useless unless you intend to be a math professor. Which I don’t really understand. Computers and software use non decimal bases all the time. We talk ab

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

Well, I know know that new math they started when I was in the 3rd grade was function theory. They dropped quickly. I kinda wished that I had learned that properly before college. This was in the 1960s. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:40 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Use

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cobra Kai

The karate is pretty bad and it seems like students are going from white belts to black and back again. Steve Jones wrote: I watched episode one out of nostalgia, figured it would be a lame reboot, we ended up watching both seasons, my daughter even put down her phone. Turns out danielsan is a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

I had my Beatles Song Birthday last week. ☹ Adam -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 11:16 AM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today? A birdie told me that today is Jay Fuller's 50

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jay Fuller turns 50 today?

Well.. we still love you. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2020, at 6:25 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > > I had my Beatles Song Birthday last week. > > ☹ > > Adam > > -Original Message- > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Tuesday, September

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo de res , arroz y chile verde

Here you go Jaycut the head off 6-9 fresh jalapenos, hot leave everything inside, mild - clean out inside.. Place the jalapenos in blender with some water, and small piece of garlic, salt and two small green tomatoes without a stem. Blend...and pour in bowl Goes well with just about anything...

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/request/documentation/ On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 11:03 AM wrote: > I haven’t found the template yet. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, September 7, 2020 12:07 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New IPs > > Theres a templ

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

these are the two i used. the internet service example one i kind of wish we had used for subnet documentation originally On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:01 PM Steve Jones wrote: > https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/request/documentation/ > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 11:03 AM wrote: > >> I haven’t fou

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo de res , arroz y chile verde

you know what would taste good in that. On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:59 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Here you go Jaycut the head off 6-9 fresh jalapenos, hot leave > everything inside, mild - clean out inside.. > Place the jalapenos in blender with some water, and small piece of garlic, > salt

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo de res , arroz y chile verde

youre going to want to pick up the pace: Waiting List Status Report Recent and Upcoming Waiting List Distribution The last distribution was completed Monday, 13 July 2020. The next distribution will occur on or about Thursday, 24 September 2020. On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:04 PM Steve Jones wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

Waiting List Status Report Recent and Upcoming Waiting List Distribution The last distribution was completed Monday, 13 July 2020. The next distribution will occur on or about Thursday, 24 September 2020. On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:03 PM Steve Jones wrote: > these are the two i used. the internet

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo de res , arroz y chile verde

Noo never On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 8:05 PM Steve Jones wrote: > you know what would taste good in that. > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:59 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Here you go Jaycut the head off 6-9 fresh jalapenos, hot leave >> everything inside, mild - clean out inside.. >> Place

Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

Chuck did you have any damage from the wind storm? On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 7:06 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Waiting List Status Report > > Recent and Upcoming Waiting List Distribution > The last distribution was completed Monday, 13 July 2020. The next > distribution will occur on or about Thursday, 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo de res , arroz y chile verde

It's supposed to be: I do not like them Sam I Am. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 9:15 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo de res , arroz y chile verde Noo never On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 8:

Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: COVID Exposure and the real world

so, the wife ended up not catching it, a couple nurses did. in the last couple weeks shes had 2 more exposures from the same nonsense. we arent going into lockdown every time anymore, just notifying everybody and wearing masks for two weeks even though they dont do anything (purely an issue of crim