OK, waiting on them to give me an organization number.  It says it will take a 
day or three.  
From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:50 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

you don't need the as# right now unless you plan on doing bgp right away, 
otherwise just apply for the ipv4 and use a LOA template from google to 
authorize your transit provider to advertise your routes.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:46 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Thanks, working on it now.  

  From: David Coudron 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:09 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

  I don’t have a formal list of steps, but basically as a first time applier as 
an ISP, I think you move to the top of the list to get a /24.   I am working 
from memory, but this is how I remember it.   I will also be applying for a new 
block and will validate steps.



    1.. Get your ARIN number (sounds like you have already applied)   This goes 
pretty quickly.  Once that is in place, you can get the request moving.  
    2.. Since this is your first ARIN request, use the ISP request, not the end 
user request.   Although either could work,  I think you will get one assigned 
more quickly that way.   The first time I applied, they redirected me to the 
ISP request anyway. 
    3.. Follow their questions about usage and request size.   Use their 
template to provide information about what you are already using for IPs and 
what you will use this block for.   You can download the spreadsheet example 
and fill that out, it is a link on one of the form pages once you start 
applying. 
    4.. Submit everything to them.  You will likely need to update information 
a couple of times, but they are pretty good about telling you what needs to be 
fixed. 
    5.. Get your ASN going as soon as you can.   That is a separate process and 
fee, but will be needed.


  I will try to take screen shots as I am running through it today.  It is a 
lot of information, but it isn’t terrible to get through.



  Thanks,



  David Coudron

  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:59 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs



  Sure if you have the steps written down, I would love a copy.  I just applied 
for an account this morning.



  From: David Coudron 

  Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:02 AM

  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs



  Yes,



  It is still a thing.   ARIN is still offering that from what I can tell.   
However, we were able to get a /24 without going that route 5-6 months back.  
Looks like you can still do that, but will need to wait 2 months or so.   We 
are just starting the process to get a new /24.   Chuck, let me know if you 
want to copy the steps.   Basically you will need to get registered with ARIN 
first, you will also need an ASN if you don’t have one.   After that, it is 
just filling out the spreadsheets Steve mentioned.



  Thanks,



  David Coudron

  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
  Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 5:51 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs



  Is the v6 transition pool still a thing?  I'm pretty sure if you sign up for 
IPv6 you can then get a /24 from the the V4 to V6 transition pool.  Sounds like 
a /24 would tide you over for awhile.

  -Adam



  On 9/7/2020 12:32 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

    Not sure what to tell them.  I have my own fiber network.  2 customers.  
Just getting started.  Hope to have 10 customers by the end of the month and 
maybe 25 by the end of the year.



    I am using some NOC services of another company.  I am paying them per 
customer.  Kinda a white label thing.  Once I grow  to a certain point it will 
make financial sense to do it all myself.  



    So, I want them for my own company, but I want them to live in another 
interconnected company.  

    I don’t have my own ASN yet.  



    From: Mark Radabaugh 

    Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 9:15 AM

    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs



    Or for IPv4 you might want this page: 
https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/request/ 



    You didn’t say if you are buying from others or asking ARIN for addresses.  
 Either way you have to get it approved by ARIN - so don’t skip that part or it 
will delay being able to purchase IPv4 (if that’s the way you are going).



    Mark



      On Sep 7, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:



      I have never done this before personally.  Where do I start?

      Sent from my iPhone



        On Sep 7, 2020, at 7:26 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

         

        It's really easy if you just submit some data saying you have the 
customers that need those IPs.  The ARIN folk are really cool and smart.




        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373





        On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 5:53 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

          I can wait...
          Never personally applied before. Guess I am going to have to learn 
that 
          process.
          Can I get a block and then assign it to another company for them to 
use?

          -----Original Message----- 
          From: Matt Hoppes
          Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 2:29 PM
          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Chuck McCown
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IPs

          $0... ARIN is finding them if you can wait a month or two.

          Otherwise we just purchased one for $5,000.

          On 9/5/20 3:30 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
          > What is a c block going for these days?
          >
          > Sent from my iPhone
          > 

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