Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Attachment - Tree Trimming?

2020-08-18 Thread Mark Radabaugh
The vast majority of pole lines are on public ROW which means the local political entity controls the property and is generally responsible for the condition of the trees. When we have asked in the past if the village (insert whatever political entity you like) cared if we trimmed around lines

Re: [AFMUG] What is “reselling”?

2020-08-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Reselling is when you'd delivering a circuit over someone else's network to a third party. Using someone else's network when you're on both sides isn't reselling. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Messag

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Attachment - Tree Trimming?

2020-08-18 Thread Josh Luthman
They're running new lines on the poles behind my house. The contractors are all trimming the trees themselves to get the new stuff in. Last winter the power company hired a tree trimming service to trim the trees as well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [AFMUG] What is “reselling”?

2020-08-18 Thread Matt Hoppes
Right... so a VPN across a connection that fully encapsulates everything is not reselling then. On 8/18/20 8:51 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Reselling is when you'd delivering a circuit over someone else's network to a third party. Using someone else's network when you're on both sides isn't resel

Re: [AFMUG] What is “reselling”?

2020-08-18 Thread Darin Steffl
It all depends on what the provider defines. If you had a residential or small business connection on my WISP and I found you were tunneling all the traffic to a datacenter and selling internet service to customers on our connection but through a tunnel, I would disconnect you without hesitation.

Re: [AFMUG] What is “reselling”?

2020-08-18 Thread chuck
So, essential elements of an AUP are? Right to refuse service for any reason. Cannot offer any competing product or service without prior authorization. ... From: Darin Steffl Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 8:42 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Mike Hammett Subject: Re: [AFMUG] W

[AFMUG] Sync 2.5 and 5.0 MS Frames Cambium

2020-08-18 Thread Sam Lambie
I am replacing some 450 AP's with 450i so I can utilize 40mhz channels and a little better throughput. Currently All my 450m AP and 450 and 450i Ap's are synced to 15 miles, 75% and 6 contention slots. Everything is happily humming along with these settings. Easy enough to duplicate at 40mhz And ca

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread Bill Prince
That dish looks fabulous! The sandwich doesn't look bad either! bp On 8/18/2020 8:33 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Huevo con Chorizo en pan Blanco...yum..cooked it with Irish butter -- AF mailing list AF@af.afm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread James Howard
And Irish Crème in your coffee? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 10:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast Huevo con Chorizo en pan Blanco...yum..cooked it with Irish butter

Re: [AFMUG] Sync 2.5 and 5.0 MS Frames Cambium

2020-08-18 Thread Sean Heskett
everything has to be one or the other. no way to sync 2.5 and 5 together. going to 5ms you should see about 10% boost in performance On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM Sam Lambie wrote: > I am replacing some 450 AP's with 450i so I can utilize 40mhz channels and > a little better throughput. Curr

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Attachment - Tree Trimming?

2020-08-18 Thread Adam Moffett
Around here the electric co does it.  A line with power is usually kept fairly clear.  Solo telco lines get buried in foliage. On 8/18/2020 7:47 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: The vast majority of pole lines are on public ROW which means the local political entity controls the property and is genera

Re: [AFMUG] Sync 2.5 and 5.0 MS Frames Cambium

2020-08-18 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah all one or the other. On 8/18/2020 12:41 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: everything has to be one or the other.  no way to sync 2.5 and 5 together. going to 5ms you should see about 10% boost in performance On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM Sam Lambie > wrote: I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread chuck
Now, if his wife had been in the frame that could have a different interpretation. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 9:57 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast That dish looks fabulous! The sandwich doesn't look bad either! bp On 8/18/2020 8:33 AM, Jai

Re: [AFMUG] Sync 2.5 and 5.0 MS Frames Cambium

2020-08-18 Thread Matt Hopkins
450m does do 5ms as well. They added it around 16.1 I think. On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:41 AM Sean Heskett wrote: > everything has to be one or the other. no way to sync 2.5 and 5 together. > > going to 5ms you should see about 10% boost in performance > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM Sam Lam

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Haha, don’t hear that expression much anymore, like dames and broads and hot tamales. Back around 1980 I worked at a place we had a PCB designer named Trish who was known as Trish the Dish. Different times. That was the same place where a software manager had to figure out how to tell an e

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Lol On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 9:58 AM Bill Prince wrote: > That dish looks fabulous! The sandwich doesn't look bad either! > > > bp > > > > On 8/18/2020 8:33 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Huevo con Chorizo en pan Blanco...yum..cooked it with Irish butter > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Attachment - Tree Trimming?

2020-08-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Same here...electric company has a company that does all the cutting and trimming for them...I had 22 trees surrounding my yards when we bought this house in 1998...winds, lightning and soil erosion from rain and irrigation flooding later...9 trees left...three get trimmed every year by them...new

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread chuck
Such mixed emotions... the distraction is a distraction, but wow what a distraction... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 11:14 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast Haha, don’t hear that expression much anymore, like dames and broads and hot

[AFMUG] OT wrt minks

2020-08-18 Thread chuck
I was certain there was a chinchillamatic skit on SNL years ago but I could not find it for a snappy reply yesterday. Mmmm mink burgers. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Sync 2.5 and 5.0 MS Frames Cambium

2020-08-18 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
i don't think 450 will do 40mhz and 5ms frames, could be wrong... On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:50 PM Matt Hopkins wrote: > 450m does do 5ms as well. They added it around 16.1 I think. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:41 AM Sean Heskett wrote: > >> everything has to be one or the other. no way to sy

Re: [AFMUG] OT wrt minks

2020-08-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Not to be confused with minx. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 1:14 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT wrt minks I was certain there was a chinchillamatic skit on SNL years ago but I could not find it for a snappy reply yesterday. Mmmm mink burg

Re: [AFMUG] Sync 2.5 and 5.0 MS Frames Cambium

2020-08-18 Thread Mike Meluskey
Soon come, late this year are 1st quarter next year On 18 Aug 2020, at 14:30, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: i don't think 450 will do 40mhz and 5ms frames, could be wrong... On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:50 PM Matt Hopkins wrote: 450m does do 5ms as well. They added it around 16.1 I think. On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] OT wrt minks

2020-08-18 Thread chuck
I like me some minx with minks. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 12:36 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT wrt minks Not to be confused with minx. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 1:14 PM To: af@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT wrt minks

2020-08-18 Thread Bill Prince
I think it was the summer between my sophomore and junior year in high school. I think that because I was not old enough to drive. My father or mother would have to drive me over to the mink ranch where I had scored a summer job. Score is probably too strong a wor

Re: [AFMUG] OT wrt minks

2020-08-18 Thread chuck
Shoveling pig sh*t was my worst summer task. Worse than chicken and I got that too. At least these guys got all the eggs to eat they wanted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Ud57xZ8Bo From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 1:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT wrt m

Re: [AFMUG] OT wrt minks

2020-08-18 Thread chuck
How come sometimes links are clickable and some times they aren’t? From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 1:27 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT wrt minks Shoveling pig sh*t was my worst summer task. Worse than chicken and I got that too. At least these guys got a

Re: [AFMUG] Sync 2.5 and 5.0 MS Frames Cambium

2020-08-18 Thread Sam Lambie
Thanks for the confirmation guys. On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:37 PM Mike Meluskey wrote: > Soon come, late this year are 1st quarter next year > > On 18 Aug 2020, at 14:30, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > > i don't think 450 will do 40mhz and 5ms frames, could be wrong... > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:

[AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

2020-08-18 Thread Sam Lambie
We are looking into a managed WiFi solution for some of our more demanding clients that either have big homes, or just want the best. We currently use Mikrotik HAP AC Lite which don't have great coverage, but great features for us in terms of management. So for those that need more coverage etc, w

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

2020-08-18 Thread chuck
Calix is fantastic. I don’t know Plume. From: Sam Lambie Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 3:22 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi We are looking into a managed WiFi solution for some of our more demanding clients that either have big homes, or

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

2020-08-18 Thread Carl Peterson
We use Plume and its pretty good. If the decision were entirely in my court I'd have gone with Calix. Long term it aligns better with where I think the company should be going - all fiber all the time, but if all you are looking for is simple wifi that works then Plume is pretty good. On Tue, Au

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

2020-08-18 Thread Gino A. Villarini
We chose Plume, the customer app and the ISP cloud panel runs circles around Calix’s Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://gallery.mailchimp.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/2a19bac2-257e-4f73-9295-a89a9c48a166.png] [htt

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

2020-08-18 Thread TJ Trout
what's the per sub cost approx for these solutions? On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 4:10 PM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > We chose Plume, the customer app and the ISP cloud panel runs circles > around Calix’s > > > > *Gino* > *Villarini *Founder/President > @gvillarini > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 > [image:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread Steve Jones
I think that might get a guy punched On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 11:49 AM wrote: > Now, if his wife had been in the frame that could have a different > interpretation. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2020 9:57 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast > >

Re: [AFMUG] ballast calucations

2020-08-18 Thread Steve Jones
Yeah, but that's for the specific npm. It's got to be base on something. I gotta build a custom npm in a limited pie slice footprint to hold a 4 foot, and 2 3 foot antenna about 7 feet up, and preferably a pmp cluster around 20 feet. I ordered 4k lb. ballast today. The site guy says 4k isnt a prob

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread chuck
Funny, some guys are jazzed when other guys notice their wife in a good way. Others want to punch anyone out that looks at her. I have always been in the former. But I have almost gotten punched out by the latter. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 7:41 PM To: AnimalFarm Microw

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep Steve..it would On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 7:42 PM Steve Jones wrote: > I think that might get a guy punched > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 11:49 AM wrote: > >> Now, if his wife had been in the frame that could have a different >> interpretation. >> >> *From:* Bill Prince >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 1

Re: [AFMUG] Plume or Calix managed WiFi

2020-08-18 Thread Carl Peterson
Have to agree with Gino on the cloud panel and app. Pretty much the exact reasons we ended up with Plume. The issue is that without Calix Cloud it is next to impossible to provision/manage 844E and Gigispire products but running two different management systems isn't really in the cards. On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Now Friday 'bout a week ago Leroy shootin' dice And at the edge of the bar Sat a girl named Doris And oo that girl looked nice Well he cast his eyes upon her And the trouble soon began And Leroy Brown learned a lesson 'Bout messin' with the wife of a jealous man From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast

2020-08-18 Thread Steve Jones
I am the former, we even tried the swang thang for a younger period. I like people to look at some shit, but some shit I dont. Like the other day I was sitting on my folks porch and this wretch walking down the road looked in my truck window, I wanted to pummel him. I had a bunch of tools and equip