Re: [AFMUG] site monitor base 3 availability?

2020-02-27 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Glad I'm not the only one. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:43 PM wrote: > “February has been all about getting the work done I expected to be doing > in November and December. “ > > Put that on my tombstone. > > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:07 AM

Re: [AFMUG] UV Resistant Label Machine

2020-02-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
I also end up cursing at it because the printing on the labels is light or skips. Then I put in a new roll of labels and it’s fine for awhile. Apparently the labels have a shelf life once the package is opened. I don’t know if it’s temperature or they dry out or what. I should try taking t

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread dave
We R starting to see some real world impressive results with just the pmp450i CBRS radios on a 20Mhz channels This guy is nearLOS about 2.5 miles of some tree and pointing into edge of panel Current Results Status Stats for LUID: 65   Test Duration: 10   Pkt Length: 1714   Test Direction

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Josh Baird
Do you have numbers for this same customer pre-CBRS? On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:26 AM dave wrote: > We R starting to see some real world impressive results with just the > pmp450i CBRS radios on a 20Mhz channels > This guy is nearLOS about 2.5 miles of some tree and pointing into edge of > panel

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Still in winter. I'd like to see how it performs when the leaves are full in May. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 9:26 AM dave wrote: > We R starting to see some real world impressive results with just the > pmp450i CBRS radios on a 20Mhz channels > This guy is nearLOS about 2.5 miles of some tree and p

[AFMUG] OT Fleet Management

2020-02-27 Thread chuck
Before I recreate the wheel, I thought I would ask: Any recommendations on fleet management software. I probably have 50+ vehicles and machines that all need regular oil and filter changes etc. I am starting to create forms and may make a database but perhaps there is a low cost solution alrea

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread George Skorup
About 70. Regularly hits 100Mbps DL. 20MHz channel. Surprisingly only 3 or 4 SMs worse than 6X MIMO-B downlink. 450m is definitely worth the cost where you have the density. And it's a night/day difference especially when you upgrade from regular ol 450 APs. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 6:38 PM Josh B

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
For years there has been enthusiasm for the idea that 3.5 GHz is suitable for NLOS propagation in a way that doesn’t apply to other mid band spectrum like 2.4, 2.5 or 5 GHz. Initially is wasn’t clear what type of NLOS people meant – urban clutter or foliage – but I think it’s pretty clear peopl

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Mathew Howard
In reality, I think it's a combination of all of those, with the exception of "3.65 GHz somehow is absorbed less by foliage than other mid band frequencies", which I've never seen any evidence for in the real world. Plus the fact that we're allowed to use quite a bit higher EIRP than 2.4ghz or 5ghz

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Lots of wishful thinking combined with a little bit of LTE magic. 5 on your list would be my vote - receiver sensitivity and lack of interference. You left out the other adder - running at illegal power output levels at the base station for the NN licenses. LTE certainly has significantly bett

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Brian Webster
A lot of the initial hype was based on the signal levels the links were reporting from the CPE. What people didn’t realize was that the signal being reported was for the pilot carrier and not the full bandwidth signal. The difference is about 30 dB. So when a CPE was connecting at say -70 the r

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fleet Management

2020-02-27 Thread Brian Webster
Here are a few places to start: https://blog.capterra.com/the-6-best-free-and-open-source-fleet-management-s oftware-programs/ Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:5

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, Baicells CPE report signal in RSRP, rather than RSSI like most of the radios WISPs are used to, and I think that's pretty much standard for LTE radios, in general. You can get away with low signal levels when there's no noise and no load on the AP, so it seems great when you put your first f

[AFMUG] 450m 365 sync

2020-02-27 Thread Shayne Lebrun
What are the various options for providing sync to a 3.65 450M? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Robert Andrews
TANSTAFAL Specially in RF On 02/27/2020 10:05 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yeah, Baicells CPE report signal in RSRP, rather than RSSI like most of the radios WISPs are used to, and I think that's pretty much standard for LTE radios, in general. You can get away with low signal levels when there'

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m 365 sync

2020-02-27 Thread Matt Mangriotis via AF
Shayne - There's a discussion on this topic here: https://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/450M-3Ghz-Power-options-sync-options/td-p/98000 Summary: CMM5 (for timing only, as the radio is DC-powered) or cnPulse (connecting the AUX port). The PacketFlux devices are also being used (as the

Re: [AFMUG] 450m 365 sync

2020-02-27 Thread Sean Heskett
We use the PacketFlux rack injector - great product and easy to use for lots of different equipment types. We ripped out all of our CMM5s because honestly they are a PITA and a very clunky solution. -Sean On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:09 AM Shayne Lebrun wrote: > What are the various options for

Re: [AFMUG] 450m 365 sync

2020-02-27 Thread Josh Baird
Was it the CMM5 that was basically a big metal box with a tiny Raspberry Pi in it? On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:21 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > We use the PacketFlux rack injector - great product and easy to use for > lots of different equipment types. > > We ripped out all of our CMM5s because honestl

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Steve Jones
I was glad that we put up ubnt around the same time as the 320. It quickly forced me to understand there was zero sauce to the band, outside it being clean at the time. the ubnt offered no "penetration" as would be expected. the 320, wimax offered better penetration, but not 900mhz penetration, whe

Re: [AFMUG] 450m 365 sync

2020-02-27 Thread Steve Jones
CMM Micro was pretty cool. We dropped the coin for a few CMM4 (still have one NIB) and were sorely disappointed in what a shitshow it was of cobbled components at crazy high cost, half web interface, half CLI, and IIRC there was java involved too. I wont even look at a CMM5 On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at

Re: [AFMUG] 450m 365 sync

2020-02-27 Thread Josh Baird
Yes, the CMM4 was horrible. We still have a few as well. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:38 PM Steve Jones wrote: > CMM Micro was pretty cool. We dropped the coin for a few CMM4 (still have > one NIB) and were sorely disappointed in what a shitshow it was of cobbled > components at crazy high cost, h

Re: [AFMUG] 450m 365 sync

2020-02-27 Thread Sean Heskett
CMM5 is worse than the CMM4. and yes the control board for the CMM5 is a Pi -sean On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 12:44 PM Josh Baird wrote: > Yes, the CMM4 was horrible. We still have a few as well. > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:38 PM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> CMM Micro was pretty cool. We dropped

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread chuck
WiMax was originally promised to do 70 Mbps to 70 subscribers at 70 miles. I think those commas were misinterpreted. From: Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:34 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE I was glad that we put up

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Adam Moffett
I've been told the attenuation from foliage in 3.5ghz is going to be about 15db per 100m.  Obviously that really depends on what /specifically/ is in the way, but I think that figure lines up with my observations in the field.  It means you can get through trees at a steep angle to a high tower

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Steve Jones
Im really wanting to see what ericson does. I read a white paper on one of their carrier product tests it was crazy, through some trees, some dirt over some water, like 4 miles or something and they were doing something like 70mbps in a small channel. The system has the cpe directing the base stati

[AFMUG] Sali Lake City steak place

2020-02-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
What name and address of the Road something place ewe guys go to? My lil brother the EE is there with other EEs . -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Sali Lake City steak place

2020-02-27 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Rodizio? > On Feb 27, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > What name and address of the Road something place ewe guys go to? My lil > brother the EE is there with other EEs . > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing

Re: [AFMUG] Sali Lake City steak place

2020-02-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep . thanks I found it but I think they are going to Spencers On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 5:53 PM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > Rodizio? > > > > On Feb 27, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > What name and address of the Road something place ewe guys go to? My lil > brother the EE is there wit

Re: [AFMUG] 450m 365 sync

2020-02-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
We typically recommend one of the following options from our product line: 1) For sites with room for a rackmount device, a RackInjector with a PDU card and a Cambium Sync Card. This will provide Power via the PDU card to the unit, and sync via the cambium sync card. You'll need a syncbox basi

Re: [AFMUG] Sali Lake City steak place

2020-02-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
That's a good one. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 7:28 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Yep . thanks I found it but I think they are going to Spencers > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 5:53 PM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > >> Rodizio? >> >> >> >> On Feb 27, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Jaime Solorza >> wrote: >> >> What name and a

Re: [AFMUG] Sali Lake City steak place

2020-02-27 Thread Bill Prince
Not exactly a "steak" place, but most assuredly a "meat" place. bp On 2/27/2020 4:52 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: Rodizio? On Feb 27, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Jason McKemie
Holy crap, I must be way out of the loop, but I never saw anything on this list about "bleary's" situation. I just googled it, that is nuts. On Thursday, February 27, 2020, Adam Moffett wrote: > I've been told the attenuation from foliage in 3.5ghz is going to be about > 15db per 100m. Obviousl