Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Tarana commercial ... "I can't believe it's not fiber". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxszIaNpYILY -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 5:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing T

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2025-04-18 Thread Mike Hammett
eryone's list. -- Mike Hammett - Original Message - From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Cc: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 2:51:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing Mike, I'm

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2025-04-18 Thread Mike Hammett
thman" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 11:51:47 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing Vision is the first (only?) system with Tarana (WIRELESS) integration. So IDK about "for fiber ISPs". It's more location based, but that doesn't rest

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2025-04-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I couldn't have said it better myself. -- Mike Hammett - Original Message - From: "Sterling Jacobson via AF" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Cc: "Sterling Jacobson" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 10:48

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2025-04-18 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF
" MH> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" MH> Cc: "Frank McCown" MH> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 9:04:34 PM MH> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing MH> We are probably also dropping Playt but I have heard some ungood things abo= MH> ut Sonar=E2=80=A6=2

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2025-04-18 Thread Steve Jones
u know vs. the enemy you don't. > > > > > -- > Mike Hammett > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Cc: "Frank McCown" > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 9:04:34 PM >

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2025-04-18 Thread Steve Jones
*On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka >> Technologies via AF >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2025 6:31 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Cc:* Mark - Myakka Technologies >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Billing >> >> >> >> Chuck, >>

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-18 Thread Cameron Crum
If I were doing just fiber I would definitely look at Fiber Smith. I'll send your email on to Dave Thomas there and he can tell you the ins and outs. On Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 7:32 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF < af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > Chuck, > > > > We are finally dropping Platypus and mov

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-18 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
gt; etc. > > > > Our current system does none of that, so I have nothing to recommend. As > others have said, it is not realistic to love your billing system. Maybe > one could aspire to hate it less? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *David Hannum > *Sent:* T

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Vision is the first (only?) system with Tarana (WIRELESS) integration. So IDK about "for fiber ISPs". It's more location based, but that doesn't restrict it to a medium. On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:00 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > You'll need to include what you want it to do. > > Vision was built f

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
ext = time they switch. Like when there's a new Doctor Who, are you happy or sad? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 10:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Frank McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing I'm not happy about my

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-18 Thread Mike Hammett
nt: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 9:04:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing We are probably also dropping Playt but I have heard some ungood things abo= ut Sonar=E2=80=A6=20 Like they have stopped developing and support is not as good as it used to = be.=20 Don=E2=80=99t remember who said it and t

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-18 Thread Mike Hammett
t; Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 9:04:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing We are probably also dropping Playt but I have heard some ungood things abo= ut Sonar=E2=80=A6=20 Like they have stopped developing and support is not as good as it used to = be.=20 Don=E2=80=99t remember who said it

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-18 Thread Sterling Jacobson via AF
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2025-04-18 Thread Mike Hammett
You'll need to include what you want it to do. Vision was built from the ground up for fiber ISPs. -- Mike Hammett - Original Message - From: ch...@go-mtc.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 5:33:08 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Billing Once again, w

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-17 Thread Cameron Crum
nologies via AF > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2025 6:31 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Mark - Myakka Technologies > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Billing > > > > Chuck, > > > > We are finally dropping Platypus and moving to sonar

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-17 Thread David Hannum
. > > > > Our current system does none of that, so I have nothing to recommend. As > others have said, it is not realistic to love your billing system. Maybe > one could aspire to hate it less? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *David Hannum > *Sent:* Thursday, A

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Thursday, April 17, 2025 11:47 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing We've been with Powercode since I believe 2009. We've frequently looked at other options and have always felt that Powercode was the best bang for the buck for our company. Nothing eve

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-17 Thread David Hannum
port is not as good as it used >>> to be. >>> >>> Don’t remember who said it and they may just be a sore head too. >>> >>> >>> >>> I presume Simon is still involved? >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF [mailto

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-17 Thread Cameron Crum
s not as good as it used >> to be. >> >> Don’t remember who said it and they may just be a sore head too. >> >> >> >> I presume Simon is still involved? >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark - M

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2025-04-17 Thread Josh Luthman
ember who said it and they may just be a sore head too. > > > > I presume Simon is still involved? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka > Technologies via AF > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2025 6:31 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Micr

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2025-04-17 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
involved? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies via AFSent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 6:31 PMTo: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Mark - Myakka Technologies Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing Chuck, We are finally dropping Platypus and moving to sonar.  Not in

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-16 Thread David Hannum
PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Mark - Myakka Technologies > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Billing > > > > Chuck, > > > > We are finally dropping Platypus and moving to sonar. Not in love with it > yet. verifying a

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-16 Thread Chuck McCown
[mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 6:31 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Mark - Myakka Technologies Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing Chuck, We are finally dropping Platypus and moving to sonar. Not in love

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2025-04-16 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF
Chuck,   We are finally dropping Platypus and moving to sonar.  Not in love with it yet.  verifying and transferring our 12 year old data has not been fun. -- Best regards,  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Communications www.Myakka.com -- Wednesday, April 16,

Re: [AFMUG] Billing

2025-04-16 Thread Zach Underwood
We just signed with Zoho for billing, help desk and field tech manager. On Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 6:34 PM wrote: > Once again, we are considering going to hopefully something better in the > billing department. > > Anyone love their billing software? > > > > Best Regards, > > Chuck McCown > > McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Billing for underground damage

2021-11-03 Thread Josh Luthman
re dusting you off. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nate Burke > > Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:56 PM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing for underground damage > > > > How long does it usually tak

Re: [AFMUG] Billing for underground damage

2021-11-02 Thread Chris Fabien
PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing for underground damage > > How long does it usually take for the offending company to payout? It's > a nationwide contractor. Is it a year long process of them submitting > to their insurance and just

Re: [AFMUG] Billing for underground damage

2021-11-02 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
if they are dusting you off. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing for underground damage How long does it usually take for the offending company to payout? It's a natio

Re: [AFMUG] Billing for underground damage

2021-11-02 Thread Nate Burke
How long does it usually take for the offending company to payout?  It's a nationwide contractor.  Is it a year long process of them submitting to their insurance and just waiting through bureaucracy? On 7/23/2021 2:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I bill for time and materials as if I was ma

Re: [AFMUG] Billing for underground damage

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I bill for time and materials as if I was making the repair for someone else. That means marked up materials and profit on top of loaded payroll expense. You can bill for whatever you want but if you have to litigate it best to just try to get yourself whole. If you have proof it was painted

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-24 Thread Daniel White
  > yt-logo <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA>  > > www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 > Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > > *From: *AF on behalf of Chuck McCown > > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Micro

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-24 Thread Josh Luthman
R 00968 > > *From: *AF on behalf of Chuck McCown < > ch...@wbmfg.com> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Date: *Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:44 AM > *To: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists > *Cc: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] billing again

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-24 Thread Chuck McCown
wn > Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Date: Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:44 AM > To: Jeff Broadwick - Lists > Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing again > > In my memory Charles started it. We were one of the first customers. We ha

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-24 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Jeff Broadwick - Lists Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing again In my memory Charles started it. We were one of the first customers. We had to bail because it couldn’t accept all cards if I remember correctly. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2020, at 5:36 AM, Jeff

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-24 Thread Chuck McCown
In my memory Charles started it. We were one of the first customers. We had to bail because it couldn’t accept all cards if I remember correctly. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2020, at 5:36 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > > ConVergence owns IPPay. They are now a subsidiary company l

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-24 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
ConVergence owns IPPay. They are now a subsidiary company like CTIconnect since we “de-converged” (I wish I could remember who came up with that, so I could give them the credit!). Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Aug 23, 2020, at 1

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-23 Thread Daniel White
I know I'm a week behind here - but I'd note that Charles Wu never owned IPpay.  I'm under NDA for probably anything else I'd say :-) Brian Young can help you out with IPpay - byo...@ippay.com photograph Daniel White Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 dire

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-17 Thread Dave
We are using Freeside and happy with it. Luckily before jeremy left we were able to get some custom modules done. We have a support engineer that works well with freeside. We were able to incorporate it into preseem and our inventory without much fuss. I hope that Ivan will get his stuff toge

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 11:30 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing again I remember when one fiber provider in Utah started charging a $7.00 handling fee when paying by check. Seemed excessive, but They probably got more to switch to use

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-16 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
> observed. > > https://www.valuepenguin.com/credit-card-surcharges-convenience-fees > > > From: AF On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 11:01 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing again > > > apparent

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
. https://www.valuepenguin.com/credit-card-surcharges-convenience-fees From: AF On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 11:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing again apparently not illegal anymore, lots of vendors here are now

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2020-08-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
: [AFMUG] billing again Charles has not been involved with IPPay for some time. Sonar is $1.25/sub/month up to 5000 then it drops in tiers. Not sure about Emerald. UCRM is free but who knows if it will be around in a few years or even tomorrow. Ivan (Freeside) has not been around for a few years

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
ugust 14, 2020 10:44:04 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing again Charles has not been involved with IPPay for some time. Sonar is $1.25/sub/month up to 5000 then it drops in tiers. Not sure about Emerald. UCRM is free but who knows if it will be around in a few years or even tomorrow. Ivan (Fr

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
https://sonar.software/pricing - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 10:28:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] billing again So w

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-14 Thread Lewis Bergman
At the end of year we are moving to OneBill. I know some people with it and they are very happy. The costs is reasonable nut is on a rev basis. On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:28 AM wrote: > So what is the relative costs of the different billing systems. > > I see platypus is free up to 100 subs then

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-14 Thread chuck
Yes, thanks. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 9:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing again Charles has not been involved with IPPay for some time. Sonar is $1.25/sub/month up to 5000 then it drops in tiers. Not sure about Emerald. UCRM is

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-14 Thread Larry Smith
On Fri August 14 2020 10:44, Cameron Crum wrote: > Ivan (Freeside) has not been around for a few years. Not sure > what happened to him, but he quit coming to the Wisp trade shows and stuff. > But, Freeside is "free" if you can get it set up with the ambiguous > instructions, or you can pay a "supp

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/14/20 8:50 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: Sorry, it is illegal in some states to charge a surcharge for taking credit cards. 10 states outlaw it altogether and there are requirements in other states that you have to meet in order to do it. The 10 states are Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas,

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-14 Thread Cameron Crum
This is a pretty good article about surcharges and convenience fees. https://www.valuepenguin.com/credit-card-surcharges-convenience-fees On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:50 AM Cameron Crum wrote: > Sorry, it is illegal in some states to charge a surcharge for taking > credit cards. 10 states outlaw i

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-14 Thread Cameron Crum
Sorry, it is illegal in some states to charge a surcharge for taking credit cards. 10 states outlaw it altogether and there are requirements in other states that you have to meet in order to do it. The 10 states are Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, New York, Oklahoma, a

Re: [AFMUG] billing again

2020-08-14 Thread Cameron Crum
Charles has not been involved with IPPay for some time. Sonar is $1.25/sub/month up to 5000 then it drops in tiers. Not sure about Emerald. UCRM is free but who knows if it will be around in a few years or even tomorrow. Ivan (Freeside) has not been around for a few years. Not sure what happened to

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-25 Thread John Osmon
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:00:53AM -0500, Ken Hohhof wrote: [...] > There is a whole movement telling people that ISP resolvers are slow > and insecure, that it will be faster and safer to use DNS over HTTPS > to 1.1.1.1 or something similar. I’ve never quite understood the claim > that it’s faster

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/24/20 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: That sounds like the greylisting fans who claim email senders are required to retry again within 15 minutes from the same IP address. Sure.  And in the real world … Greylsiting is highly effective against a specific set of spew sources: compromised mac

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2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
nt: Friday, April 24, 2020 11:40:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing That sounds like the greylisting fans who claim email senders are required to retry again within 15 minutes from the same IP address. Sure. And in the real world … Remember the story about the ship captain ordering the

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2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
quot; To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 11:35:08 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing Which CDNs require it? I know Google, Apple and Netflix don’t matter they use the source IP of the requestor not the DNS. Akamai is still old-school hasn’t figured out th

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 11:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing "I'm not sure why that is still being preached." Multiple CDNs specifically require it and state as much in their peering or cache server documentation. - Mike

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2020-04-24 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
;https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From:

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
riginal Message - From: "Darin Steffl" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 11:22:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing To be fair, Cloudflare is only 3.0ms away from us and that's not a lot of additional latency, particular considering that

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Darin Steffl
Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2020 9:36 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing > > > > Mostly humor, but it's kinda true too. > > > > As Mike said - it's another one of his things. I'm surprise

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
as cache size, it seems most sites now set the TTL so low that all queries are recursive. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:36 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing Mostly humor, but it's kinda true too. As Mike

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Josh Luthman
23, 2020 at 6:00 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > That’s kind of harsh, or was that humor? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:50 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing > > > > This guy

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
Hey, “get off my lawn” is my shtick. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing It's mainstream and it's generally shit. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/

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2020-04-23 Thread Mike Hammett
GP for them to serve those clients at all. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Erich Kaiser" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020

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2020-04-23 Thread Mike Hammett
icrowave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing I will flame everyone forever that doesn't use their own on-net recursive DNS servers. It's sorta like my SFP thing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -

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2020-04-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
lto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:00:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing That’s kind of harsh, or was that humor? From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Josh Luthman S

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2020-04-23 Thread Erich Kaiser
n Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 5:00 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > That’s kind of harsh, or was that humor? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:50 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing > > > &

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread Mike Hammett
en Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:00:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing That’s kind of harsh, or was that humor? From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

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2020-04-23 Thread Mike Hammett
From: "David Coudron" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:48:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing Yes, that is something we need to continually consider, and I am not trying to resurrect the SaaS apps vs own it and run it yourself de

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2020-04-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
That’s kind of harsh, or was that humor? From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing This guy probably doesn't run his own DNS ;P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread Josh Luthman
who > does that for a living. I expect that will change some day, but for now, > unfortunately that is where we are at. > > > > Regards, > > > > David Coudron > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 1:49 PM > *To:* Anim

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2020-04-23 Thread David Coudron
Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing The cost of running an ISP is that you have to run an ISP. ;-) I see a lot of people trying to run server-less, and you just can't... at least not while being responsible. If you've got one VM, the work in more VMs isn't dramati

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread Josh Luthman
:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing > > > I have two BMUs on the shelf if you need some…… > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:16 PM > *T

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2020-04-23 Thread Mike Hammett
tt Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "David Coudron" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 1:35:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing I hear ya, but it is anoth

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2020-04-23 Thread David Coudron
: Thursday, April 23, 2020 1:45 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing What were BMUs, meaning who made them? From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:30 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing I have two BMUs on

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2020-04-23 Thread Simon Westlake
t used monitoring and >> troubleshooting tool. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> David Coudron >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:06 AM >&g

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread chuck
What were BMUs, meaning who made them? From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:30 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing I have two BMUs on the shelf if you need some…… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve

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2020-04-23 Thread Josh Luthman
lization data, so >we calculate that ourselves in LibreNMS. > > > > I am sure we are looking for pie in the sky stuff, but I thought we’d be > closer to this with Pulse than where we landed by quite a bit. > > > > Regards, > > > > David Coudron > > >

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread David Coudron
ubject: Re: [AFMUG] billing I have two BMUs on the shelf if you need some…… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:16 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing BMUs are g

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread David Coudron
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing "We’d like to eliminate our external monitoring system (LibreNMS)." I've actually been advocating for the exact opposite. Use APIs to pull the up\down information into Sonar, but leave the work of monitoring to something purpose-built to monito

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2020-04-23 Thread Bruce Robertson
it. That said, I'm happy to fly cargo trips. On 4/23/20 11:25 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: You hauling people, cargo, students or cameras?  Perhaps FWS coyote hunters? *From:* Bruce Robertson *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:39 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing Ni

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2020-04-23 Thread Josh Luthman
; >>> >>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:03 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing >>> >>> >>> >>> Is Charles Wu still a pow

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread SmarterBroadband
I have two BMUs on the shelf if you need some…… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:16 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing BMUs are gone, you can use mikrotik, but they wont give you a

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2020-04-23 Thread chuck
Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing Charles Wu at CTI sold Powercode for a while. That was the last bit of time where it was in Utah. After this, Bertram bought Powercode. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed

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2020-04-23 Thread chuck
You hauling people, cargo, students or cameras? Perhaps FWS coyote hunters? From: Bruce Robertson Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:39 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing Nice. I considered pitching that to my (wealthy) boss for my flying gig for the town of Truckee CA, but

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2020-04-23 Thread Mike Hammett
tt Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "David Coudron" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:51:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing I need to go back to the

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread David Coudron
build that functionality from scratch. Regards, David Coudron From: AF On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing David, Yeah I doubt you could store it back in sonar, but you could create an external DB

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2020-04-23 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
akes it so easy to put Preseem in, and Preseem >> has a lot of value. It is our most used monitoring and troubleshooting >> tool. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> David Coudron >> >> >> >> >> >

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2020-04-23 Thread Jason Wilson
isp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------- > *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:42:13 P

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread Cameron Crum
would be ideal, but it doesn’t look like that is possible. > > > > Regards, > > > > David Coudron > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Cassidy B. Larson > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:38 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bi

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2020-04-23 Thread Cameron Crum
seem in, and >> Preseem has a lot of value. It is our most used monitoring and >> troubleshooting tool. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> David Coudron >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Mike Hamm

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread David Coudron
would be ideal, but it doesn’t look like that is possible. Regards, David Coudron From: AF On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing We’ve been able to figure out most of our things we need with v1

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2020-04-23 Thread Carl Peterson
>> troubleshooting tool. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> David Coudron >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:06 AM >> *To:* AnimalF

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2020-04-23 Thread Bruce Robertson
g.com wrote: Yeah, FISP.  Clean, zero back end systems.  Just keep the light moving and collect the revenue.    At least that is what I am attempting to pull off... *From:* Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:21 PM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] b

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
n, and Preseem > has a lot of value. It is our most used monitoring and troubleshooting tool. > > > > Regards, > > > > David Coudron > > > > > > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thurs

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread Cameron Crum
t; Regards, > > > > David Coudron > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:06 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing > > > > No one I know is running 2.0 becaus

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Bertram. Same WISP that I think bought the remnants of Trango, I could be >> misremembering that last part. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:03 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

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2020-04-23 Thread Simon Westlake
----------- > *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:42:13 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] billing > > Text to customer isn’t a feature yet. > > > > Are you running v2.0 So

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2020-04-23 Thread Josh Baird
It is our most used monitoring and > troubleshooting tool. > > > > Regards, > > > > David Coudron > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:06 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-23 Thread David Coudron
From: "Sterling Jacobson" mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:42:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing Text to customer isn’t a feature yet. Are you r

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