Yes, I could see where that would work. However, we just decided to use a SNMP system that would allow us to do that without having to create our own database, etc. With the other SNMP system we get the built in thresholds and alerting and all that kind of functionality without having to build that functionality from scratch.
Regards, David Coudron From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing David, Yeah I doubt you could store it back in sonar, but you could create an external DB where the math and storage was done with the results from the data pull in Sonar. On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:52 PM David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote: I need to go back to the session we had with the Sonar help folks. It had to do with monitoring and using the API to update fields on devices so that we could get better monitoring data into Sonar. In working with the person at Sonar (I don’t have written down which one) we both agreed that it appear it should be working, but clearly wasn’t. Their take was that this wouldn’t be corrected in v1. We needed to wait for the v2 API. We’d like to eliminate our external monitoring system (LibreNMS). We’d really like all of the data to be in Sonar and go to one spot for SNMP based data. Preseem is our tool for latency, throughput, data volume and overall customer experience. But all SNMP stuff would be nice to have in one spot. What we’d really like to do is use the data pulled through SNMP and landing in Sonar and do some math on it and store it back to Sonar. That would be ideal, but it doesn’t look like that is possible. Regards, David Coudron From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing We’ve been able to figure out most of our things we need with v1 API, but it’s at the cost of an exponential number of API calls. This ends up being bad for both us and our sonar instance. I think we tax it too heavily as we’re API intensive :) On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com<mailto:cc...@murcevilo.com>> wrote: David, I'm curious what you can't do with the v1 API. I have yet to find something I haven't been able to help people with in custom integrations with Sonar's API. Obviously, things will change with v2, but I'd be curious to know what you are needing. On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:19 AM David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote: We see the same thing as Mike is referring to. We would really like to get to v2.0. There has been quite a bit of discussion about it and webinars saying it is ready and so on, but when you really press on the topic, you find out many of the necessary features aren’t ready and you can’t migrate. We have been in this state for months, and it doesn’t seem like anything will change anytime soon. Our recommendation is, make absolutely sure the current feature set works for you, do not assume you will be using v2.0 because that timeline isn’t set. We want to move to v2.0 to take advantage of the new API stuff, as we’d like to do some simple integration that doesn’t work with the v1.x API. We are also hoping we will see improvement in the stability of the monitoring in v2.0. We have found that the monitoring in the current version isn’t nearly as reliable as Powercode and we have had to supplement it with another tool. That being said, we can’t say enough about the integration with Preseem, as Preseem has been an indispensable addition to our toolset. I imagine you could use Preseem pretty successfully without Powercode or Sonar, but the Sonar to Preseem integration makes it so easy to put Preseem in, and Preseem has a lot of value. It is our most used monitoring and troubleshooting tool. Regards, David Coudron From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:06 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing No one I know is running 2.0 because it isn't finished and doesn't seem likely to be finished by fall. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:42:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing Text to customer isn’t a feature yet. Are you running v2.0 Sonar already? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing if you only want to do billing Platypus is still around and is relatively cheap, but it is literally a billing platform only. Sonar is a total CRM as well as business management platform...the whole enchilada. -sean On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:58 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: I used Plat years ago and was happy with it. So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar. Simon is a standup guy. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed. we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat but was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so, after 18 months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode way we moved to Sonar and haven't looked back. Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.) -Sean On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year. So at some point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform. Leaking toward Sonar. Have used Plat in the past. Is Powercode still alive? 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