push 49 or 50v just to be safe?
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of * Josh Baird
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:19 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
>> I don’t do this stuff normally, so excited to get started and try it out.
>>
>>
>> If I’m pushing 48v up top to a roof, what’s the voltage drop?
>>
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>> I assume these DC units can somehow be tweaked so that output can
>> accommodate for
units can somehow be tweaked so that output can
>> accommodate for voltage drop.
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>> What size wire is everyone using typically for this, usually 30-100 ft
>> max length?
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>> I’m assuming it’s something like 10 AWG? At 48v and
put in two shunts, you can
have one on the charger and one on the load so you don’t have to mentally
reverse load current from battery recharge current after an outage.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:25 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
Josh Baird
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:19 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
FWIW - we have lots of EdgePoint S16's that are powered by Traco
BCM/TSP combos @ ~54V with no issues.
Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
We either get pre-terminated Commscope cable from Best-tronics (just call
them!) or Shireen hybrid cable from Streakwave, etc.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:06 PM Sterling Jacobson
mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
Awesome info, thanks!!
hat is the part
> number for that?
>
>
>
> Definitely need that.
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> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 1:58 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
>
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Awesome info, thanks!!
Where are you getting the Shireen hybrid fiber cable and what is the part
number for that?
Definitely need that.
From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 1:58 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
just to be safe?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:19 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
>
>
>
> FWIW - we have lots of EdgePoint S16's that are
All depends on the current.
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 1:46 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
So what’s the Traco parts list for that?
I don’t do this stuff normally, so excited to get started and try it out
Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
FWIW - we have lots of EdgePoint S16's that are powered by Traco BCM/TSP combos
@ ~54V with no issues.
I agree with others - your battery plant should be 48VDC.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:15 AM Sterling Jacobson
mailto:
305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
From: AF On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 6:33 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC convers
t higher.
>
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> That particular device can do 48v, it just may shut down POE if it gets
> lower than 48v.
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> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:11 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AF
: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
Why not run your system at 54 volts? If the radio freaks out above 54, just
set it at 54 and you should be fine. Battery strings don’t exceed the float
voltage of the rectifier. If you are worried about it float at 53.75 volts.
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
Having a hard time figuring out the exact part/price for something like this.
Which Meanwell part would take 48v and make it 50v or 54v 5A?
From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 18
Yeah, 40 to 56 should work for all 48 volt gear. Some of it may not like 40
but in my experience they will stay functional down to 44.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 4:21 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
Meanwell RSD-300C-48 makes
temps. Batts live longer at cooler temps.
.https://batteryuniversity.com/index.php/learn/article/how_heat_and_harsh_loading_reduces_battery_life
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 10:20 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
That's weird to me.
That’s probably the way to go.
My calculations come out to max 4.6A so it will probably work.
And I site monitor setup to monitor it?
From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:43 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
a couple hours runtime, I have a lot of
smaller sites built with 4 x 22 Ah batteries in series and a Traco TSP-BCM48.
From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:26 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
You need 5 amps at 50
on wrote:
>>
>> Having a hard time figuring out the exact part/price for something like
>> this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Which Meanwell part would take 48v and make it 50v or 54v 5A?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On
>> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>
Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2019 10:21 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
>
>
>
> That's weird to me. Any telecom equipment made for 48v I would have
> assumed they intended it to be used with a rectifier, and cons
s out if it goes above 54v.
Is there any way to assure it doesn’t float/charge above 54v, or maybe even
just 50v?
From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 7:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com >
Subje
ne 18, 2019 10:21 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
That's weird
to me. Any telecom equipment made for 48v I would have
assumed they intended it to be used with a rect
o, PR 00968
>
> *From: *AF on behalf of Sterling Jacobson <
> sterl...@avative.net>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Date: *Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 1:20 AM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversio
guring out the exact part/price for something
like this.
Which Meanwell part would take 48v and make it 50v or 54v 5A?
*From:*AF *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2019 10:21 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
That's weird to m
at 1:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
Having a hard time figuring out the exact part/price for something like this.
Which Meanwell part would take 48v and make it 50v or 54v 5A?
From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 1
Having a hard time figuring out the exact part/price for something like this.
Which Meanwell part would take 48v and make it 50v or 54v 5A?
From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 10:21 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
That's
ust 48v?
There will be some loss going 100’ or so, right?
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:23 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
or maybe
> even just 50v?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2019 7:26 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
>
>
>
> contact talley or tessco for a price, don't
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
12-54v is inefficient, if you want 200ah of battery use 4x50ah batteries for a
48v string
ICT24048-7BC2 360W 54v AC-DC + LVD + Charger
ICT-TM
t;>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * TJ Trout
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:23 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
>>
>>
>>
>> 12-54v is inefficient, if you want 200ah of battery
will be some loss going 100’ or so, right?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:23 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
>
>
>
> 12-54v is inefficien
Ok, cool.
So can the 7bc2 be adjusted slightly to output 50v instead of just 48v?
There will be some loss going 100’ or so, right?
From: AF On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion
12
12-54v is inefficient, if you want 200ah of battery use 4x50ah batteries
for a 48v string
ICT24048-7BC2 360W 54v AC-DC + LVD + Charger
ICT-TMP - Temp sensor for charge compensation if batt's outside
ICT-WMB - Wall mount bracket
SITE Monitor - Voltage monitoring
Or
Alternativly;
48v din mount PS
I'm trying to put a "box" system together for our house POP sites and need help
with the DIN stuff and UPS.
Can you guys give me an idea or example of the following?
I want to take standard AC 15A in from a breaker outside the box.
And using maybe one or two 12v 105AH AGM batteries, supply 50v 6
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