Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-08 Thread chuck
Cover each container with solar panels. Put a small motor on each one with GPS nav and just toss them in the ocean. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:23 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships Then there’s the min

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Then there’s the minor problem that the top surface of a container ship is covered with … containers. From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships Since you're not goi

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-08 Thread Mathew Howard
t; > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Mark Radabaugh" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Monday, October 7, 2024 7:12:35 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] solar contain

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-08 Thread chuck
:42 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships Floating array you tow. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 8, 2024, at 4:59 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Of course the reactor will have more power, the question was can you use solar or battery. There is not

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-08 Thread Chuck
ainer ship hauls around in it. The nuclear reactor would pass it in 11 days.-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISPFrom: "Mark Radabaugh" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:12:35 PMSubject: Re

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-08 Thread Mark Radabaugh
-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISPFrom: "Mark Radabaugh" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:12:35 PMSubject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container shipsBack of the envelope calculations….Panamax (largest container ship

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-08 Thread Mike Hammett
igent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mark Radabaugh" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:12:35 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships Back of the envelope

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-07 Thread Dev
hhof wrote: >> >> Nuclear probably beats diesel for energy density, but I presume that is not >> an option. >> >> Original Message >> From: "Mark Radabaugh" >> Sent: 10/7/2024 7:13:41 PM >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Grou

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-07 Thread Robert
lFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships Back of the envelope calculations…. Panamax (largest container ship through the Panama Canal) burns 63,000 gal/day. 63000 gal of diesel is 2400MWH of energy. It takes roughly 10 acres to generate 1MW of power so 24,000 a

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-07 Thread Mark Radabaugh
t; an option. > > Original Message > From: "Mark Radabaugh" > Sent: 10/7/2024 7:13:41 PM > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships > > Back of the envelope calculations…. > > Panamax (largest co

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-07 Thread Dan P via AF
Maybe in time ? Seeing these multi megawatt 10 year life zero maintenance nuke batteries looks pretty kick ass From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 6:16:35 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships Nuclear

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-07 Thread Dev
- Original Message > From: "Mark Radabaugh" > Sent: 10/7/2024 7:13:41 PM > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships > > Back of the envelope calculations…. > > Panamax (largest container ship through the Pa

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Nuclear probably beats diesel for energy density, but I presume that is not an option. Original Message From: "Mark Radabaugh" Sent: 10/7/2024 7:13:41 PM To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships Back of the envelope cal

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-07 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Back of the envelope calculations…. Panamax (largest container ship through the Panama Canal) burns 63,000 gal/day. 63000 gal of diesel is 2400MWH of energy. It takes roughly 10 acres to generate 1MW of power so 24,000 acres * 3 (to account for night). Call it 40 square miles…. I don’t

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-07 Thread Nate Burke
Haven't there been some deployed with Sails now too? https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-66543643 On 10/7/2024 4:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote: i dont know how much batteries it would take to run one of these beasts, but what is the fuel to batter weight ratio? like 100 tons to cross the atlantic i

[AFMUG] solar container ships

2024-10-07 Thread Steve Jones
i dont know how much batteries it would take to run one of these beasts, but what is the fuel to batter weight ratio? like 100 tons to cross the atlantic in fuel would require how many tons of battery with 30% sun and how many tons of solar panels to charge them -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] solar

2023-08-19 Thread TJ Trout
30c https://signaturesolar.com/hyundai-9-15kw-pallet-305w-mono-crystalline-solar-panel-silver-hia-s305hg-full-pallet-30-solar-panels/?fbclid=IwAR3t5-Reci3-hbV_tUsItnahQ1RY1v8pg5c9vlzKM2Gk6gy92Lq_NcyN384 On Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 5:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Good prices: > https://solarste

[AFMUG] solar

2023-08-13 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Good prices: https://solarsteals.com/solar-shop/?gclid=CjwKCAjw_uGmBhBREiwAeOfsdxdIiNPhRXm2ehc7XVz4dSZgvSAbRVS7_kFU7vOany2vAdHENbF5NxoCFYoQAvD_BwE Best Regards, Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Drive Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 Office 435-830-4306 Cell www mc

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
www.terabitnetworks.com From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:13 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar to get me to come to the state of california would require an act of god and a pile of gold bars. I would rather lick ebola sores and scopp my eyes out

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-04 Thread Steve Jones
wiring. >> >> >> >> *From:* Daniel Pautz via AF >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 1, 2023 11:19 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Cc:* Daniel Pautz >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar >> >> >> Now if only the installers weren’t

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-02 Thread Bill Prince
re an independent electrician to do the wiring.  The grunts can be trained up to do the bulk of the wiring. *From:* Daniel Pautz via AF *Sent:* Tuesday, August 1, 2023 11:19 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Cc:* Daniel Pautz *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar Now if onl

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-01 Thread Steve Jones
> > > *From:* Daniel Pautz via AF > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 1, 2023 11:19 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Daniel Pautz > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar > > > Now if only the installers weren’t so greedy. Chuck know of any good > commercial / i

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-01 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench.pro www.terabitnetworks.com From: Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 1:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar Looking at building a new home and been eyeing these: https://www.dyaqua.it/invisiblesolar/_en/index.php Sure

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-01 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
oun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Trey Scarborough > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2023 10:16 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar > > Wow I'm going to have to check these guys out there just down the street from > m

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-01 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
mount them up. Once mounted hire an independent electrician to do the wiring. The grunts can be trained up to do the bulk of the wiring. From: Daniel Pautz via AF Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 11:19 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Daniel Pautz Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar Now if

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-01 Thread Daniel Pautz via AF
Now if only the installers weren’t so greedy. Chuck know of any good commercial / industrial installers? Considering a big 500kw + install up here in Ogden. From: AF On Behalf Of Trey Scarborough Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2023 10:16 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar Wow

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-01 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Figure out where they buy panels from From: Trey Scarborough Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 10:15 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar Wow I'm going to have to check these guys out there just down the street from me. I actually almost moved in to that complex when

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-01 Thread Trey Scarborough
Date: 7/31/23 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00) To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: [AFMUG] Solar Just bought a pallet of new 490 watt panels for 40 cents per watt. Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailin

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-01 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
From: Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 9:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] ; Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar How many panels in a pallet? On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 6:33 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Beene Brothers Ventures LLC 2090 Fm157

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-08-01 Thread Cameron Crum
, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] > wrote: > >  > Not bad. Where did you order from? > > Thanks, > Jim > > > > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone > > > > Original message > From: Chuck McCown via AF > Date: 7/31/23

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-07-31 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
gt; > > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone > > > > Original message > From: Chuck McCown via AF > Date: 7/31/23 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: af@af.afmug.com > Cc: Chuck McCown > Subject: [AFMUG] Solar > > Just bou

Re: [AFMUG] Solar

2023-07-31 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Not bad. Where did you order from? Thanks, Jim Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone Original message From: Chuck McCown via AF Date: 7/31/23 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00) To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: [AFMUG] Solar Just bought a pallet of

[AFMUG] Solar

2023-07-31 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Just bought a pallet of new 490 watt panels for 40 cents per watt. Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Diesel. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup Regardless of maintenance and upkeep, the thing I can see right up front would be energy density. How many propane semis are there

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Josh Luthman
s it that makes diesel more attractive for the larger generators? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:23 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > You can

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread dmmoffett
the tank is that huge of a problem (but I’ve never done it either). What is it that makes diesel more attractive for the larger generators? From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:23 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Josh Luthman
*Mark Radabaugh > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:55 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > When I looked at propane for a standby generator at the data center I > calculated it out as a 3000 gal tank at

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread dmmoffett
Wouldn’t diesel gel at -20F? From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup When I looked at propane for a standby generator at the data center I calculated it out

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Mark Radabaugh
> Of Sean Heskett > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-15 Thread Sean Heskett
Of * Sean Heskett > *Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. > > > > We are at 40 north so

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
s setup >> for a grid tie with a small heater on the carb that runs on grid power. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brandon >> >> >> >> >> >> From: AF On Behalf Of Sean Heskett >> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
cold? Everything I have found commercially available is setup > for a grid tie with a small heater on the carb that runs on grid power. > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Sean Heskett > *Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-14 Thread lists gogebicrange . net
power. Thanks, Brandon From: AF On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. We are at 40 north so we tilt the

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-12 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
noon today. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup Yeah, don't let an installer set them for max energy over a year like they would for grid tie.Opt

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-12 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Yeah, don't let an installer set them for max energy over a year like they would for grid tie.Optimize them for the worst winter day. On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 1:17 PM Bill Prince wrote: > That is close to what we used at the 37th parallel. We set our panels at > 60 degrees. That gave us close t

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-12 Thread Bill Prince
That is close to what we used at the 37th parallel. We set our panels at 60 degrees. That gave us close to maximum sun at the winter solstice, and we still had excess energy during the summer months. The summer sun is long enough and strong enough that you don't need the panels pointed straight

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-12 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
: Saturday, November 12, 2022 1:43 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. We are at 40 north so we tilt the panels at about 65* 40 + 23.5 = 63.5* At that angle when

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-12 Thread Sean Heskett
In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. We are at 40 north so we tilt the panels at about 65* 40 + 23.5 = 63.5* At that angle when there’s any amount of direct sunlight it slides pretty quick. But we also have a propane generator on-site because the stars don’t alwa

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-11 Thread Robert
This would be why they started making bi-facial solar panels, reflected ground illumination increases the panel output, according to some ads, as much as 20%... (YMMV) On 11/11/22 5:25 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I never discovered any solution other than the foam.  You can point a separate

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-11 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I powered it by co2. So carbonated beet juice. It clogged everything. Propylene glycol works good. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > Chuck had a few that he had tested, I seem to remember something about beet > juice... > >> On Friday, Novembe

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-11 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I never discovered any solution other than the foam. You can point a separate panel or array at the ground so you can catch reflected light off the ground. We discovered that by accident. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2022, at 4:01 PM, James Howard wrote: > >  > I have a vague memory of

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-11 Thread Jason McKemie
Chuck had a few that he had tested, I seem to remember something about beet juice... On Friday, November 11, 2022, James Howard wrote: > I have a vague memory of a thread in bygone years about testing different > kinds of coatings to help with buildup of snow/ice but I can’t find the > thread an

[AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-11 Thread James Howard
I have a vague memory of a thread in bygone years about testing different kinds of coatings to help with buildup of snow/ice but I can't find the thread and don't remember if it was about solar panels or dish antennas. The only thing I can find when I search my archive is about using froth-pak

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panels

2022-07-11 Thread Mathew Howard
I think they come from solar farms. They must replace whole sections if they get damaged, or something like that. A lot of them say they have the labels removed, so they can't be used for grid-tie, but for off-grid projects, I can't see any obvious reason why it'd be a bad idea, other than that th

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panels

2022-07-09 Thread Jason Wilson
a1solarastore.com is where I buy mine, mainly because they have a fulfillment center nearby in sacramento. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Critical Infrastructure Service Provider Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com On Sat,

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panels

2022-07-09 Thread TJ Trout
Battery hookup has some used panels On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, 12:48 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Looking to do a couple of solar projects. > What is up with all the used panels on Ebay? Where do they come from? > I wonder if it is a mistake to buy used panels? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afm

[AFMUG] Solar panels

2022-07-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Looking to do a couple of solar projects. What is up with all the used panels on Ebay? Where do they come from? I wonder if it is a mistake to buy used panels? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-12 Thread Robert
panel, harvest the energy AND have it be the shading method as well? Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett *Sent:* Monday, July 12, 2021 9:55 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-12 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
; Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet Figuring out how/where you need to have a device to shade a box should be the exact same process and figuring out the best place to mount a solar panel shouldn’t it? If fact wouldn’t logic dictate that you put in a solar panel, harvest

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-12 Thread Brian Webster
? Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 9:55 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet Shade moves, but maybe you only concern yourself with where

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-12 Thread Adam Moffett
ts so that is probably the major difference. We just use a color called satellite white.  I don’t think it matters much. *From:* castarritt *Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] S

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
difference. >>>> We just use a color called satellite white. I don’t think it matters >>>> much. >>>> >>>> From: castarritt >>>> Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM >>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-09 Thread Bill Prince
McCown via AF wrote: > >> My tests had very little live load. I think only 100 watts so that is >> probably the major difference. >> We just use a color called satellite white. I don’t think it matters >> much. >> >> *From:* castarritt >> *Sent:* Frida

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
live load. I think only 100 watts so that is >> probably the major difference. >> We just use a color called satellite white. I don’t think it matters much. >> >> From: castarritt >> Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-09 Thread Steve Jones
h. > > *From:* castarritt > *Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet > > Chuck, is there a specific paint you used to shield against solar > radiation? I rolled a gallon of whit

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
My tests had very little live load. I think only 100 watts so that is probably the major difference. We just use a color called satellite white. I don’t think it matters much. From: castarritt Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-09 Thread castarritt
Chuck, is there a specific paint you used to shield against solar radiation? I rolled a gallon of white elastomeric roof coating from home depot onto one of our DDB boxes, and while it did drop the temp slightly, the results weren't that impressive. I think the issue with our test is we chose a s

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-02 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
saying it is not worth it to completely shade the cabinet vs. just >> painting it Sat White? >> >> From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF >> Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 12:20 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Cc: Chuck McCown >> Subject: Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-02 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
the cabinet vs. just > painting it Sat White? > > From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF > Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 12:20 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Cc: Chuck McCown > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet > > 20+ years ago

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-02 Thread Bill Prince
ly 2, 2021 12:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet   20+ years ago, I set up 4 identical outdoor

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-02 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet 20+ years ago, I set up 4 identical outdoor enclosures. Temp telemetry. Some live load, don’t remember the details. They were about 24” cubes. All started out as gray. Tried sun shields, exterior insulation

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-02 Thread Bill Prince
We recently discussed the idea of using solar panels as a sun shade. You'd have to place them strategically, but it would accomplish the main task of getting the sun off the enclosure(s). The white paint works pretty well too. Burt Rutan did some temperature studi

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-02 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
20+ years ago, I set up 4 identical outdoor enclosures. Temp telemetry. Some live load, don’t remember the details. They were about 24” cubes. All started out as gray. Tried sun shields, exterior insulation, vents, fans, peltier cooling modules. Silver paint, white paint. The overwhelming

[AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

2021-07-02 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Super hot out here in Utah. My fiber cabinets running Active switches are getting harder to maintain and AC units on the side of the cabinets are starting to fail faster. I've had the thought of shading them with a permanent four post structure and a reflective white painted cover to shade them

Re: [AFMUG] solar panels

2021-06-04 Thread Steve Jones
the shipping cost was not > that > much more. > So the shipping probably jumps when you fill one full pallet. But it is > pretty flat until you get there. > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 4:15 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] solar panels

2021-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels Yes, I just bought 6 of the 375 watt panels for less than 600 plus $240 shipping, which is now a significant portion of the cost. On 6/4/21 11:04 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: That is a good deal. I found 17 cents in china, but this appears to be US based

Re: [AFMUG] solar panels

2021-06-04 Thread Robert Andrews
t Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> mail

Re: [AFMUG] solar panels

2021-06-04 Thread Robert Andrews
kind that affect the clear top layer? Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> *From:* AF on behalf of Bill Prince *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels S

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2021-06-04 Thread Robert Andrews
, June 4, 2021 11:59 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels I haven't seen anything that will beat this.  $45/panel for 224watts. https://shop.signaturesolar.us/products/224w-60cell-silver-poly-solar-panel-by-sharp On 6/4/21 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Who has the

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2021-06-04 Thread Mathew Howard
iday, June 4, 2021 1:59 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels > > > Yeah, I suppose some kind of continuous load that will take whatever the > panel can put outlike a big resistor with a heat sink. > > Then meter the WH output. Do it in a dark roo

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2021-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
https://eternalsunspire.com/app/uploads/181219-Temperature-control-box3-1280x854.jpg From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 1:59 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels Yeah, I suppose some kind of continuous load that will take whatever the panel can put outlike a

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2021-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
were characterizing factory seconds that we got by the truck loads. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 1:59 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels Yeah, I suppose some kind of continuous load that will take whatever the panel can put outlike a big resistor with

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2021-06-04 Thread Adam Moffett
Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels Some of the used ones list defects in the description.

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2021-06-04 Thread Mathew Howard
-- >> *From:* AF on behalf of Bill Prince < >> part15...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels >> >> >> Some of the used ones list defects in the descr

Re: [AFMUG] solar panels

2021-06-04 Thread Adam Moffett
AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels Some of the used ones

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2021-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Age for sure. 20 year old panels will not have nearly the output of new ones. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 1:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels How do you guage a level of used on solar panels? Age? Visual issues? Can you test

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2021-06-04 Thread Steve Jones
Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 1:09:14 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels > > > Some of the used ones list defects in the description. Saw one that said > "cracked", and another said "snail tracks". WTH are snail tracks? > >

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2021-06-04 Thread Mathew Howard
Ah... that figures. On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 1:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Went to buy some, shipping is more than the panel. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 12:03 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] solar panels

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2021-06-04 Thread David Coudron
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 11:59 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels I haven't seen anything that will beat this. $45/panel for 224watts. https://shop.signaturesolar.us/products/224w-60cell-silver-poly-solar-panel-by-sharp On 6/4/21 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: W

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2021-06-04 Thread Bill Prince
Ah, they are used.  I wonder how much used...   From: Robert Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 11:59 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] solar panels

2021-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Went to buy some, shipping is more than the panel. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 12:03 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels I came across this place awhile ago, seems like they have some pretty decent deals, especially if you can use the

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2021-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Ah, they are used. I wonder how much used... From: Robert Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 11:59 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels I haven't seen anything that will beat this. $45/panel for 224watts. https://shop.signaturesolar.us/products/224w-60cell-silver-poly-

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2021-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
That is a good deal. I found 17 cents in china, but this appears to be US based? From: Robert Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 11:59 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar panels I haven't seen anything that will beat this. $45/panel for 224watts. https://shop.signaturesol

Re: [AFMUG] solar panels

2021-06-04 Thread Mathew Howard
ey opened a second > warehouse in Phoenix. But that was 10 years ago. > > *From:* Chuck McCown via AF > *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 11:37 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Cc:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* [AFMUG] solar panels > > Who h

Re: [AFMUG] solar panels

2021-06-04 Thread Robert
I haven't seen anything that will beat this. $45/panel for 224watts. https://shop.signaturesolar.us/products/224w-60cell-silver-poly-solar-panel-by-sharp On 6/4/21 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Who has the best deals for solar panels these days? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com htt

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2021-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
business or not. Seems like they opened a second warehouse in Phoenix. But that was 10 years ago. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 11:37 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: [AFMUG] solar panels Who has the best deals for solar panels these days

[AFMUG] solar panels

2021-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
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Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP

2021-01-13 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I would buy telecom batts. https://www.serverrack.com/content/documents/NSB_Red_Battery_Info.pdf From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 12:36 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP Depending on which way you go, using more smaller-voltage

Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP

2021-01-13 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
1.5 watt hour per cubic inch roughly. From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 9:15 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP Out of curiousity, what does 16kwh storage look like? That seems to be a lot of battery. On Tue, Jan 12

Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP

2021-01-13 Thread Bill Prince
ry 12, 2021 11:55 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP If your load is 50W, then you need to deal with ~~ 1.2 KWH of energy usage per day (50*24). We

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