Cover each container with solar panels. Put a small motor on each one with GPS
nav and just toss them in the ocean.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:23 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships
Then there’s the minor problem that the top surface of a container ship is
covered with … containers.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:52 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships
Since you're not going to realistically get enough power from solar to power
the whole thing, I'd think you'd be better off skipping batteries and powering
motors directly from the solar array, when sunlight is available, to supplement
the main engines. Whether or not the fuel savings would be enough to be worth
bothering with is the real question.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 5:59 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
Of course the reactor will have more power, the question was can you use
solar or battery. There is not enough surface area for solar, and you can’t
recharge batteries in the 12-24hour port turnaround time.
Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
22690 Pemberville Rd
Luckey, OH 43443
419-261-5996
On Oct 8, 2024, at 5:46 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
There's bad math and bad comparisons in there.
The reactors in the latest aircraft carriers have 385 MW of power each and
run for years and years, dwarfing the oil MWH a container ship hauls around in
it. The nuclear reactor would pass it in 11 days.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships
Back of the envelope calculations….
Panamax (largest container ship through the Panama Canal) burns 63,000
gal/day.
63000 gal of diesel is 2400MWH of energy. It takes roughly 10 acres to
generate 1MW of power so 24,000 acres * 3 (to account for night). Call it
40 square miles…. I don’t think that’s going to work.
Batteries…. The Panamax ships hold ~3M gallons of fuel or 114298 MWH of
energy. A typical nuclear power plant puts out 900MWH so it’s going to take
the full output for 5 days to recharge that battery. But the typical
turnaround is 1-2 days to we need 5 reactors to recharge the ship by the time
it’s ready to sail.
Hard to beat dead dinosaurs for energy density.
Mark
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 5:22 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> i dont know how much batteries it would take to run one of these beasts,
but what is the fuel to batter weight ratio? like 100 tons to cross the
atlantic in fuel would require how many tons of battery with 30% sun and how
many tons of solar panels to charge them
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