w filespaces.
>
>How do I handle this to avoid a full backup? Will simply renaming
>the >filespaces take care of this or is there a more elegant
>solution?
We have occasionally renamed Windows TSM clients. Renaming file
spaces for drive letters works fine in terms of avoiding full
bac
We had an incident this morning that ended up being caused by a Windows
server that was renamed (internally) and connected to a domain (previously
standalone), thus initiating a full backup of an 8TB volume/space, since
TSM now sees it as new filespaces.
How do I handle this to avoid a full backup
Yes - first thing I checked. Thanks, though!
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Strand, Neil B.
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM performing full backups where incremental
: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kinder, Kevin P
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:44 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM performing full backups where incremental
specified
Richard, and others,
Thanks for the on- and off-line responses. I have followed up
han a year ago) and they
still back up when using INCREMENTAL by itself.
The number of files backed up is just a few dozen short of the number
inspected - a difference which is attributable to those files that were
open (such as log files) and could not be backed up. Obviously, with
full backups ru
Kevin -
Heck of a problem you have there. I don't do z/OS or Netware, so
unlikely that I'll have an answer, but some thoughts...
This is too obvious, but: The filespaces involved are not in some way
being renamed or deleted in between the mass incrementals? That would
cause a full backup. See
] TSM performing full backups where incremental
specified
I wanted to revisit this issue, which I wrote about last week, to see if
the new things I have learned ring a bell with anyone here. I did check
and verify on all the suggestions that I received the first time I
posted, but none of them were
I wanted to revisit this issue, which I wrote about last week, to see if
the new things I have learned ring a bell with anyone here. I did check
and verify on all the suggestions that I received the first time I
posted, but none of them were applicable. I do appreciate the responses,
however!
A
nager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Steven Harris
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 1:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] NetWare Client full backups running when
incremental is selected
Kevin,
Are you sure that someone hasn't set the mode to absolute in your
backup
copy
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Stapleton, Mark
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:15 PM
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incremental is selected
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kevin P. Kinder
>
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kevin P. Kinder
> Server: TSM running on z/OS 1.7
> Just upgraded to 5.5
> My NetWare clients are now running full backups instead of the
> incrementals which are specified. It looks as if every Ne
Server: TSM running on z/OS 1.7
Just upgraded to 5.5
My NetWare clients are now running full backups instead of the
incrementals which are specified. It looks as if every Netware server
that I have is doing this. Obviously, this is killing my disk and tape
storage space. This
window starts.
Bill Boyer
"Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield" - ??
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen S.
Rout
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:22 PM
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==> On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 19:15:08 -0400, William Boyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Each node has a nodename assigned for the monthly backup _M, and
> that's in it's own domain LONGTERM. The policy is VERE/VERD=NOLIM
> RETE/RETO=2570 and it goes to it's own disk/tape pools, separate from the
> daily
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Rout
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 6:54 PM
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Subject: Re: Monthly full backups with MODE=ABSOLUTE
==> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:21:39 -0400, William Boyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I have a client with requi
==> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:21:39 -0400, William Boyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I have a client with requirements for full monthly backups being retained
> for 7-years. 2-years ago we set them up with monthly schedules in a domain
> with the copygroups set to MODE=ABSOLUTE. Now these backups are
;re the bug, some days you're the windshield" - ??
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Mark
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:35 AM
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Wo
bug, some days you're the windshield" - ??
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Mark
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:35 AM
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>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of William Boyer
>Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:22 AM
>To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>Subject: Monthly full backups with MODE=ABSOLUTE
On Sep 1, 2005, at 11:21 AM, William Boyer wrote:
I have a client with requirements for full monthly backups being
retained for 7-years. 2-years ago we set them up with monthly
schedules in a domain with the copygroups set to MODE=ABSOLUTE. Now
these backups are running forever and I think it ha
William,
I agree with Wanda about checking the performance of the DB, but if that
is not the problem then you may need to try something other than file
level backup. Have you considered using image backups? Image backups
run much faster and they have the advantage of improving restore times
on
01, 2005 11:58 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Monthly full backups with MODE=ABSOLUTE
First thing I would check on is the DB cache hit %.
That can slow things down, and I find a lot of people still running with the
defaults.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mai
: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Monthly full backups with MODE=ABSOLUTE
I have a client with requirements for full monthly backups being
retained for 7-years. 2-years ago we set them up with monthly
schedules in a domain with the copygroups set to MODE=ABSOLUTE. Now
these backups are running
I have a client with requirements for full monthly backups being retained for
7-years. 2-years ago we set them up with monthly
schedules in a domain with the copygroups set to MODE=ABSOLUTE. Now these
backups are running forever and I think it has to do with
so many versions of the files and an I
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bill Dourado
>I have used MOVE NODEDATA and included all nodes associated
>with a particular non-collocated tape pool, the advantages
>are obvious.
>
>Is there any advantage in using MOVE NODEDATA with co-located nodes ?
No
?
Bill
"Stapleton, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject:Re: Running per
prove our restore performance. What we're running into
>are many tape mounts doing a point in time restore even in a
>co-located storage pool.
Rather than force full backups (with all the traffic and tape issues
that entails, try using the MOVE NODEDATA command to periodically move
all
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Maybe, worth another think about this
Are tape mount delays really the problem ?
If you have tape robot this is rarely a major factor in slow restores,
Usually it
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Use the selective backup option...you have to tell TSM what
filesystems/drive letters to backup but it does work.
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From: Cargill, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday,
Full backups
Does anyone know how to easily force a full backup? I know about
changing the management class attribute copymode to absolute. What I'm
trying to do is run a monthly full backup to improve our restore
performance. What we're running into are many tape mounts doing a point
in ti
Does anyone know how to easily force a full backup? I know about
changing the management class attribute copymode to absolute. What I'm
trying to do is run a monthly full backup to improve our restore
performance. What we're running into are many tape mounts doing a point
in time restore even in a
currently I have setup copygroup parameters of all domains to 35
(verexists, verdeleted, retextra, retonly) for all incremental and full
backups. Now on one ADSM client machine I need to have daily incremental
backups and keep it for 35 days, and on one of the filesystems of that node,
a full backup
domain the node is assigned to (and subsequent
hierarchy). On the other hand if you actually want a FULL backups and retain
it for a long time, you may find doing an archive to be more to your liking.
You need to look into how management classes work. In a given domain, you
have a hierarchy of domain->p
Is it possible to setup one filesystem of a node to keep backup for 365 days
and other filesystems' backups of that node to 35 days?
currently I have setup copygroup parameters of all domains to 35
(verexists, verdeleted, retextra, retonly) for all incremental and full
backups. Now on one
for a quick restore)
"Seay, Paul"
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Manager"
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May 22, 2002 1:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Incremental & full backups
I agree with Rick. If you're going to use TSM, start by reading the
"Concepts" manual so you understand it. TSM is not a full plus
incremental backup system! We know that's hard to beli
thomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Incremental & full backups
Hi Rick,
thanks for your answer but in our case we have 5 tapes that shall be
recycled every week... Another question: What i've to create on the server
I agree with Rick. If you're going to use TSM, start by reading the
"Concepts" manual so you understand it. TSM is not a full plus
incremental backup system! We know that's hard to believe, because
most of us have been there, but you won't be happy or effective with
TSM until you understand it'
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Subject:Incremental & full backups
Hello,
big question by a newbie:
we want to put in place backups with the following scheme: One full backup
of client nodes done Friday and the backup during the other days shall be
incremental. The backups shall
The simplest way is to do full backups everyday and set your expiration to
7 days (Hopefully this will fit on 5 tapes). Remember you should also
backup the DB from time to time!
Etienne
Hi Rick,
thanks for your answer but in our case we have 5 tapes that shall be
recycled every week
many discussions along the lines of your
problem.
Regards,
Rick
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jean-Baptiste Nothomb
Sent: woensdag 22 mei 2002 21:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Incremental & full backups
Hi Rick,
th
Hi Rick,
thanks for your answer but in our case we have 5 tapes that shall be
recycled every week...
Another question: What i've to create on the server to do incremental
backups and full backups for about a week retention?
>From: Rick Harderwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Repl
Hello. This subject has been covered pretty exhaustively multiple times.
You can find the discussions in the list archive at http://www.adsm.org. A
few searches will probably convince you that you most likely won't need full
backups.
Alex Paschal
Storage Administrator
Freightliner, LLC
Hello,
big question by a newbie:
we want to put in place backups with the following scheme: One full backup
of client nodes done Friday and the backup during the other days shall be
incremental. The backups shall be kept for about 7 days.
How have I to define the policy in ADSM. Can someone give
Sent: woensdag 22 mei 2002 20:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Incremental & full backups
Hello,
big question by a newbie:
we want to put in place backups with the following scheme: One full backup
of client nodes done Friday and the backup during the other days shall be
incremental. The back
Thanks!
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From: Reinhard Mersch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unwanted, unscheduled FULL Backups
Does "full backup" mean that all files are backed up? I have seen this on
several occasio
On NT Clients, changing file and directory permissions will cause a full backup of
every file changed.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Unwanted, unscheduled FULL Backups
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Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:24 PM
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Subject: Unwanted, unscheduled FULL Backups
Here's an interesting one for us: periodically, a client will "decide" to
perform a full backup during a scheduled incremental, regardless of existing
file spaces or statu
Does "full backup" mean that all files are backed up? I have seen this
on several occasions:
- due to the DST error in some client versions (see APAR IC28544),
- when the client's admin changed the ACLs on all files on the client,
- when a filespace was renamed on the client,
- ...
I do not t
Title: Message
Here's an
interesting one for us: periodically, a client will "decide" to perform a full
backup during a scheduled incremental, regardless of existing file spaces or
status of the client files or options in any way, shape or form. Does
anyone know of any setting or issue that wou
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Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:17 PM
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Subject: Full backups
We have been using ADSM for a few years. Management has asked if it is
possible to "start over", that is make it look like this is the first day we
are using ADSM and run all full backups.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Debbie
-
From: Lane, Debbie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Full backups
We have been using ADSM for a few years. Management has asked if it is
possible to "start over", that is make it look like this is the first day we
are
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Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Full backups
Good points. Sounds like I need to ask more questions.
Thanks!
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From: Miller, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:50 AM
To: [
Hi TSMer,
I have a question for you with HA-TSM Solutions.
Yesterday I tried to make a 3-Mirrow of a TSM DB on a NFS/Network Sharing.
At the beginning the process was going. After 1 Minute I got the return code
4 from TSM.
My question what are the TSM response times [ms] for makeing db/log mirro
Good points. Sounds like I need to ask more questions.
Thanks!
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From: Miller, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Full backups
There are several options, that is one, Andy outlined a couple more
operationally correct to you, Andy?
Matt
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From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Full backups
OK. Perhaps it doesn't need to be said, but I'll mention it anyway: don't
forge
March 05, 2002 11:29 AM
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Can't she just run a selective backup instead of an incremental?
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From: Miller, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fu
OK. Perhaps it doesn't need to be said, but I'll mention it anyway: don't
forget to reset MODE to MODIFIED after the full backups complete! :-)
Regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/T
Thanks Andy, I think option 2 is what they are looking for.
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From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Full backups
A couple of ideas:
1) Rename the node's existing file spaces on th
excellence.
"Lane, Debbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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We have
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Full backups
We have been using ADSM for a few years. Management has asked if it is
possible to "start over", that is make it look like this is the first day we
are using ADSM and run all full backups.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Debbie
Can't she just run a selective backup instead of an incremental?
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From: Miller, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Full backups
How many nodes and filespaces do you have? Do you need to kee
We have been using ADSM for a few years. Management has asked if it is
possible to "start over", that is make it look like this is the first day we
are using ADSM and run all full backups.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Debbie
> Del, I read the readme (that sounds strange!) and it says that for
> incremental's tdp always uses unique file names so the parameter that
> governs how many copies to keep is the retonly variable. Does this mean
that
> full backups use the same name every time and the parame
Del, I read the readme (that sounds strange!) and it says that for
incremental's tdp always uses unique file names so the parameter that
governs how many copies to keep is the retonly variable. Does this mean that
full backups use the same name every time and the parameter to use is the
ret
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From: Thomas Kiel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Management class for incr and full backups with TDP for
Exchange 2.2
Hi All,
I'm looking for the right backup copy groups parameter for weekly full
ba
> Well the backup copy groups for TDP for Exchange should be 0. You control
> how long you keep the backup copies by using the command line option
> /adsmautodelete which specifies how long you want to keep copies for. You
> will need to do it through batch files and the TSM scheduler...
>
> Mark
Hi All,
I'm looking for the right backup copy groups parameter for weekly full backups
saved for 3 month and daily incr backups saved for 1 month. Can anybody give me
examples of the backup copy groups using for the full and incr objects backed
up with TDP for MS-Exchange vers. 2.2???
Thanks to my respondents.
Andy Raibeck's reply looks like a good way to go
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Another option would be to have a special schedule that runs weekly to do a
Selective rather than Incremental backup. Of course, you end up with 3
schedules for these nodes (weekday, Saturday and Sunday, of which, one is
the selective backup), but you get your weekly full backup in.
Nick Cassima
it, backupsets are the preferred
> alternative.
> However assuming I am forced to go that route I have a few of queries.
>
> Am I correct that you need to set the backup copygroup mode to absolute for
> every management class mentioned in the dsm.opts plus the default,
> before t
< Am I correct that you need to set the backup copygroup mode to absolute
for
every management class mentioned in the dsm.opts plus the default,
before the "full backups", and reverse it back to modified afterwards. >
Yes, that's one way to do it. However, if you have clien
the preferred
alternative.
However assuming I am forced to go that route I have a few of queries.
Am I correct that you need to set the backup copygroup mode to absolute for
every management class mentioned in the dsm.opts plus the default,
before the "full backups", and reverse it back t
ation needs a lot of tape and
cpu time and after a short time the bs are outdated.
With Regards,
Stefan Holzwarth
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> Von: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2000 00:18
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re:
This "once a month snapshot" idea is a hangover from old manual tape handling
procedures
The user attitude is that they want exactly the same functionality that they had,
whether or not it is needed.
I'm still fighting the good fight on this one, but one way to handle this is to set
retonly to
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Forgosh, Seth
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 12:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Monthly Full backups
Due to a fai
>We have some users who want to do full monthly backups and keep these
>separate from the normal backups (ie. do a backup once a month
>and keep for
>1 year).
>
>We do this via the Archive, but it has it's limitations:
>- must specify each drive letter/ file system
>- can't archive all of the WIN2
]
Subject: Re: Monthly Full backups
We have some users who want to do full monthly backups and keep these
separate from the normal backups (ie. do a backup once a month and keep for
1 year).
We do this via the Archive, but it has it's limitations:
- must specify each drive letter/ file system
-
ed) - this also does not
support all of the WIN2K Sysetm Objects.
Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg
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From: Jerry Caupain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Monthly Full backups
Hello,
I
Hey, that sounds like a much better idea!!!
Thanks
Matt
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From: Jerry Caupain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Monthly Full backups
Hello,
I also make monthly full backups.
I made another
Hello,
I also make monthly full backups.
I made another management class with a copymode of ABSOLUTE!
Then I made an admin command schedule to make the absolute management class the
default.
I scheduled this admin command to run at the end of the month.
Then I just run my normal INCREMENTAL
class).
Matt
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From: Forgosh, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 2:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Monthly Full backups
Due to a failed server and the length of time required to restore it, my
management has "requested" that we
Using a new node name, run monthly selective backups of your server.
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Forgosh, Seth wrote:
> Due to a failed server and the length of time required to restore it, my
> management has "requested" that we implement monthly full backups of all
> "critic
Due to a failed server and the length of time required to restore it, my
management has "requested" that we implement monthly full backups of all
"critical" servers. How would I go about doing that? Any input would be
greatly appreciated.
Seth Forgosh
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