On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I could well believe that Vista would struggle on anything less
> than a Cray, but Linux isn't *that* demanding is it?
>
Linux is an utter porker. ubuntu on my T23 is really awful, I fixed it
by turning most of it off.
The
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> - One potential method to provide access to contiguous
>> disk space may be a rich partitioning system, e.g. GPT.
>
> I can't believe what a terrible idea this is. I honestly thought
> that PC architecture couldn't get any wo
There were a number of changes in the kernel last 6 months, I just
recently did a pull and the lguest port is screwed. I spent part of
today fixing things and catching up, and am now stuck in the first
taskswitch.
Symptoms are odd. It dies in the first call to gotolabel.
But here is the output fr
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Doesn't matter. Process groups are process groups on any Unix clone.
>> If it's daemons you're dealing with, then it leaves the scope of this
>> room. If it's Windows, you'r
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> p9skclient: gettickets: Connection timed out
>
> Aha! Factotum uses ndb (the library, not the program)
> to map from auth domain to auth server. If it can't find
> a mapping, it tries to use the auth domain as a machine
> nam
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:27 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am trying to use a Logitech USB Keyboard+Mouse in Plan 9. The keyboard
>> is running in the bios, but when Plan 9 is starting the keyboard is not
>> responding. I can't select where is the root partition (hit
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Lucho had a mount helper at one time that was able to use p9p to
> authenticate when necessary -- this would be a nice feature to include
> in the mount helper but is difficult to include without p9p as a
> depende
building on x86 64 bit.
first issue is that I get this:make: vx32-gcc: Command not found
second is that I get this:
gcc -Ilibvx32 -c -g -O3 -MD -std=gnu99 -I. -o libvx32/linux.o libvx32/linux.c
libvx32/linux.c: In function `vx32_sighandler':
libvx32/linux.c:254: error: structure has no member na
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:57 AM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> building on x86 64 bit.
>
> first issue is that I get this:make: vx32-gcc: Command not found
>
> second is that I get this:
> gcc -Ilibvx32 -c -g -O3 -MD -std=gnu99 -I. -o libvx32/linux.o libvx32/l
This with a new untar, HOSTCFLAGS I added -m32
[EMAIL PROTECTED] src]$ make 9vx/9vx
make: vx32-gcc: Command not found
make: vx32-gcc: Command not found
make: *** No rule to make target `9vx/9vx'. Stop.
OK, I can see that 9vx/9vx target in 9vx/Makefrag, but the alarm just
went off and I gotta g
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What broke in lguest? seemed quite nice from what I have seen so far,
> just wondering because I was pondering using it for some projects.
some things changed on the plan 9 side, and then on the lguest side,
and I can no longer bu
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:56 AM, andrey mirtchovski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is it supposed to run at full-load? Both cores are fully utilized and
> 9vx.OSX uses 187% of the cpu at all times. dtruss reports that the
> main thread is just sitting there doing "select_nocancel(0x0,0x0,0x0)"
> wi
I'm on this 32 bit machine using vx32. Wow, nice. Boots like a bat.
now all I want is my fossil and venti :-)
This is really sweet. I think we've got an easy way to show people Plan 9 now.
thanks Russ!
ron
So i realized I'm being foolish w.r.t my comments on "i want my venti"
in the 9vx directory
dd if=/dev/zero of=arenas bs=1048576 count=whatever
do for index and bloom
follow venti instructions.
voila. Venti. Rinse and repeat for fossil.
oh man I love this 9vx.
Time for tvx -- tiny vx -- no nee
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Brian L. Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't tried this yet, but is there any reason you
> couldn't put block special files for disk partitions
> in the 9vx directory and put the arenas, etc there,
> assuming of course all the permissions were set right?
on .10, I can run venti/venti. on .11, it locks up 9vx quite
thoroughly after it prints init If you resize the window it is
filled with garbage. Under strace I can see it taking the timer
interrupts.
Linux xcpu 2.6.25 #6 SMP Tue May 27 09:46:16 PDT 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Sorry I don't
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> this slashdot article almost asks for cpu
> functionality for plan 9 by name.
>
actually, this the scenario for which we designed xcpu, almost exactly.
Mount, start up, disconnect, come back later ... I've used it this w
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you invoke it with the -A flag, then it will go into a
> sleep loop on panic (-A stands for abort, but that didn't
> work very well on OS X). You can then attach with gdb
> and get a stack trace or look at what the other t
well, Eris, it is quite possible that you're right. It is also
possible that you never quite got it.
Or both are possible.
ron
I just pulled the hg and built 9vx from sources.
venti copy has not died yet. :-)
ron
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Eris Discordia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not a very kind comment. Though, it is possible that it's true.
>
> What was there for me to understand about Plan 9 that I did not? Barring a
> "mystical" bond with its exquisite kernel, of course.
>
Let's pretend I want
OK, it is hard to get this to repeat, and I lost it last time. But
after running venti a while
and doing a venti copy with vx32 as the dst I eventually get a double
sleep in the
io kproc.
I'll try to get it to fail again :-)
ron
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:53 PM, bblochl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That has a very long beard! Isn`t programming without endusers just like
> wanking?
If I had a dime for every time I've heard this ...
First time I heard it was about Unix, ca. 1976.
Usually I hear it from grouchy old guys.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You've misread me. I'm far from understanding which facilities Plan 9
> provides for "ron minnich," the CS/CE person.
>> Let's pretend I want to try out the C compilers at
>>
Thread 8 (Thread -1759208560 (LWP 2898)):
#0 0xb7f2e424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1 0x4e6f7a43 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2 0x4117fa99 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#3 0x4117fe7f in _XRead () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#4 0x411816bb in _XReadEvents () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#5 0x41
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:06 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> lowlifes like me will use your system if it
>> can Get Their Job Done (tm) or they'll migrate to another system that can.
>> They won't bother coding.
>
> then migrate, already ...
>
he's having more fun trolling.
ron
I'm doing something stupid here, I know it, but can not recall what:
term% venti/findscore -v arenas 8f5e7e8bd708abb329d97c1773cac871b5daabcb
reading directory for arena=arenas00 with 195154 entries
reading directory for arena=arenas01 with 1587 entries
found at clump=1586 with type=16 size=300 cs
it was pilot error, I am embarrassed to say I forgot the buildindex step!
Wow, I've got my venti and fossil in 9vx now, life is improving fast.
ron
Thread 9 (Thread -1758905456 (LWP 2695)):
#0 0xb7f78424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1 0x4e6f7a43 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2 0x4117fa99 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#3 0x4117fe7f in _XRead () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#4 0x411816bb in _XReadEvents () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#5 0x41
our power grid in the US is, well, interesting:
http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/People/hkhurana/IFIP_CIP_08.pdf
yowie.
ron
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is this another out of memory? This
>> happened on a mk clean on kernel source
>
> It would not surprise me if the new pager (post-0.12)
> caused the problem, but in order for that
> to happen the kernel would have had to print
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:40 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Here's a bigger question, now that I've read the paper and briefly
>> scanned the code. Do you have some thoughts on the long term ability
>> of vx32 to get close to unity performance on a system (like Plan 9)
>> with a hi
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If there was a single codebase shared
> across projects none of this would be an issue at all.
you are right but it's a hard problem, we're all tight for time, so
the only fix is for somebody to step up and do it.
But your questio
I got annoyed with the idea of lguest being broken, I was stuck on a
long flight, so I redid l.s and fixed it. The new l.s has the
improvements from sources, mainly the 8M pte map instead of the
earlier 4M pte map.
it's also seriously cleaned up to take into account the new lguest
improvements (da
noble goal: look like plan 9 docs
ways to goal:
1. troff
2. tex with the right macros
3. lyx with the right layouts
so I have this paper written in lyx, if anyone has a pointer to (3), let me know
ron
I'm finding that vx32 is a *way* better way to get to lguest guests
than drawterm :-)
It is just so much snappier.
ron
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:16 AM, sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:07 AM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> OK, could some of you with the loopback 9vx device time something for me?
>
> I assume you mean plain #Zplan9 here instead of
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 8:56 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> personally, i feel it would be more useful to be
> able to use plan 9's native network stack. but
> i'm biased. i want to send aoe/cec/il packets.
>
Part of the reason I have not stopped using lguest, although now I use
I have an application for 10,000 machines. One option is to buy them
and run them, yuck!
One thought was to just rent them at amazon ecc:
http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/kbcategory.jspa?categoryID=84
Anybody worked with these guys? I need to run the 10k machines with
lguest. Any ot
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:27 AM, andrey mirtchovski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> is your app export-controlled?
No. That was the first thought that hit my mind.
ron
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:04 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if that's the argument, wouldn't it make sense to get
> rid of plan 9?
>
Think of 9vx and lguest and friends as "software tools". "Software
tools" did a lot to popularize the ideas of Unix, and made it easier
for people
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:15 PM, William Josephson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've found setting up diskless boot with Linux to be a major
> pain with most of the common distributions.
yes, they all suck. Try this: onesis.org
for a reasonable system, used at sandia on a 4096-node cluster.
for
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:01 PM, don bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> But Linux use symlinks. Is there a way to make symlinks
>> on the Plan 9 filesystem and make them accessible with NFS?
>>
>
> The kernel probably doesn't care. Symlinks are just files
> whose contents are another file's path.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And now you need extended attributes in order to support SElinux or
> RedHat behaves weirdly. It really never does end.
>
unless we all get smart and go into banking.
ron
in sources/contrib/rminnich/lguest, there is:
9lguestcpu.elf, latest kernel that boots under lguest.
and
lguest.tgz
sources this was built from. Comments, improvements welcome. There may
be some test code in there but it won't affect normal or even abnormal
usage.
ron
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If linuxemu can run Opera, I would imagine you can
> use it to run Gimp too, with some work. If you want
> an imap client, you could compile the p9p upas/fs
> which can easily handle large remote IMAP mailboxes.
speaking of w
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> speaking of which, did Cinap's fixes for the gs segment make it in so
>> we have thread local storage a la linux now?
>
>
> or did you mean in linuxemu?
yes. linuxemu needed a kernel change IIRC and I was wondering if
futex?
so do we need a futtocks device?
ron
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Kernel Panic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ron minnich wrote:
>>
>> futex?
>>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futex
>>
>> so do we need a futtocks device?
>>
>
> i think this can be implemented without
>
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I could imagine that databases use mmap() havily
>
> it's a little mystery for me why they would do that since it's slower
Well, depends. Non-mmap you have to do the storage management in the
app. mmap, you're using th
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:57 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> appears not to be in dns. did i miss a change?
nope, hang in there. It's not you.
ron
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:40 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what i have seen is that the intel 82598 10gbit chip, by keeping
> its tx and rx descriptor rings in cachable regular memory can
> mash the fsb to little bits. it's still pretty fast, though.
>
it's funny how often this
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:41 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> as you've pointed out, performance-wise it's not copying vs. nothing
> it's copying vs page faults and trips through the vm code.
> i would think playing vm games (as linus likes to say) would make
> scheduling on mp hard
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:46 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> But you make trips through the vm code on read/write in any event,
>> don't you? There was a pretty good paper comparing these paths once
>> and in the end it boiled down to "your cost will vary depending on how
>> you wr
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:45 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i haven't found this to be the case.
it's not always the case.
>
> in a former life, one i'd rather forget, i did
> full text search.
>
> in order to return the full text, we had to go
> get the document. due to the ve
I know a lot of folks on this list like history, so check this one out:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/doe/lanl/docs1/LA-6943-H.pdf
" Further-
more, by using clip leads to short one side of the
vacuum-tube flipflops, you could actually change
the co
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:49 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> very, very cool. thanks for the link, ron.
>
> i wonder if richard feynman (who is mentioned) might
> have criticized the ops/s vs. time graph on p. 5 for being
> overly fit to one end point -- the accounting machines
> i
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:20 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> but what i'd really like is a drawterm replacement with its own
> local devices. without local devices, there isn't much of an
> advantage over drawterm — unless your cpu server many
> ms away. graphics over the interne
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:31 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what's the advantage over drawterm in this configuration?
>
latency. The interactive program (e.g. acme) is on my machine, not on
a remote machine. Rio is local. And so on.
ron
note that you really need to run latest now, e.g. 2.6.25 with the
newest lguest port.
ron
it's fixed for me, the new code is on sources or so I recall. I just
ran it yesterday.
Someone else reported a problem, I don't have time to work on it until
next week.
thanks
ron
so it can go here: http://bellard.org/qemu/download.html
might as well make it available ..
ron
more useless crap from memory:
the actual correct usage is
//GO.SYSIN DD *
but of course the * would make things messy.
See this and realize this stuff is still being taught!
http://www.coba.unt.edu/itds/courses/bcis3690/bcis3690.htm
ron
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:19 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you can't make the assumption that a file is local in *ix, either.
>
in fact, for the last 20 years, every program run on a sunos/solaris
machine has used mmap for the exec.
ron
In the HPC world, there is lots of conservatism. There is an editor at
LANL, named Fred, written in Fortran, that has been in use for longer
than most of you have been alive. Until very recently, it was a
required part of any HPC system.
So, we're doing a binary compatibility module so we can run
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Steven D. Vormwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So would developers on this platform be encouraged to use languages and
> features currently in plan 9 for HPC development, or would they target
> existing HPC languages and features, which would be added to plan 9, e
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:25 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Just a dumb question, as i'm totally out of this business, it is easier to
> write an emulator than translate the applications to plan9 c ? (for example)
> or to write (or port) the C++ and Fortran compilers and related too
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Benjamin Huntsman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, does that mean that you guys have a version of XLC that can produce Plan
> 9 binaries, or are you using some other method to "convert" it's output?
>
I convert the ELF from the toolchain to a.out. It's very
stra
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Steven D. Vormwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't these require extensive run-time
> support, in addition to compiler support? Will the run-time libraries also
> be linux libraries running under a compatibility layer?
binarie
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:03 AM, don bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Can you elaborate here? What tricks can the IBM compilers use
>> that the Plan 9 ones can't? Are we talking optimization?
yes. Quite impressive optimization. Which results in very high
measured performance. At least when I'
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:21 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Obviously Plan 9's compiler
>> isn't optimal.. but what really are the requirements people
>
> really? that depends on your definition of optimal.
> by my definition which heavily rates speed of compliation
> and correc
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:36 PM, David Leimbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So is there any traction to use the new platform, or is it mostly just
> people running their familiar apps and writing new apps for their familiar
> programming environment?
There are always users who are adventurous. I
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:48 PM, David Leimbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does Plan 9 Port help? I mean, libthread on Plan 9 Port alone could be
> worth a ton to me in some situations.
> Concurrent programming for the win?
probably not for this community. When we had plan9port in xcpu we got
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Philippe Anel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can you tell us why some things are impossible to scale with 5000 posix
> threads (and easy to scale with 5000 plan 9 style threads) ?
the trivial stuff you deal with first, like the default 8MB thread
stack which makes th
For some time now, over 10 years anyway, the GNU world has been using
the linker to create initialized structs, viz:
static const struct cpu_driver driver __cpu_driver = {
.ops = &cpu_dev_ops,
.id_table = cpu_table,
};
(this from linuxbios)
The __cpu_driver is passed to the linker
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> speaking of higher levels of abstraction:
> given some scientific code i've seen (before this, nothing to do with the
> things
> running on Blue Gene), i'd observe that fixing some of the algorithms used
> (which
> is
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:04 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker
>> sets?This question just came up in linuxbios v3 and I am wondering if
>> I am a stubborn old coot (likely) or if there really is merit to my
>> dislike of
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:17 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker
>> >> sets?This question just came up in linuxbios v3 and I am wondering if
>> >> I am a stubborn old coot (likely) or if there really is merit to my
>> >>
here is a thought:
the kernel does mmap for code/data. This is because we think of a file
as a segment of data that somehow maps well to a segment of memory.
You wouldn't execute code from a stream, now, would you?
Well, this: http://www.ambric.com/
has hardware channels. And you can
call from
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Richard Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> has hardware channels. And you can
>> call from channel
>> and execute code being sent down a channel to you from another cpu.
> ...
>> it's a very interesting architecture, to say the least. For me anyway
>> the most nove
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Sape Mullender
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wonder why there is a command to turn on DMA on disks. Could
> it be that some disks don't work with DMA on?
sure. it's PC hardware, so it's crap :-)
ron
I'm so confused. Why don't you just show the code.
ron
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Wendell xe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Seeking an alternative to vi and emacs, I've been giving Acme a try
> (acme-sac, actually). After reading the articles and man pages and playing
> with it for a few days, I'll admit I don't see how Acme could be even
> remo
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:28 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> didn't you already determine that the next port is unobtainable
> without a 2d edition license? doesn't that imply that your
> modifications would not be useful without a 2d edition licence?
>
> i don't mean to be a wet
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Eris Discordia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A correction:
>
> Mea culpa. UNIX systems apparently force processes to share a single network
> stack,
gee how about that? Isn't it nice to acquire knowledge and *then* post?
> but that can be changed:
>
> http://www.te
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Eris Discordia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Basically, a terminal should not hold _any_ information on its users. Where
> does the security of not keeping authentication information on a so-called
> terminal go when you _keep_ it on the "terminal?" But with multipl
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Eris Discordia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it _that_ annoying to you? I could just keep silent if it is so, no
> "booting" required.
goodness, it's not annoying. It's just a waste of breath, bandwidth,
and bytes. Why not go do some reading and stop wasting a
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I can read and write the entire image using dd(1), irrespective of
>> geometry and I have used disksim to build an image using the second
>> geometry, but installing this on the flash has not made it possible to
>> boot
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Latchesar Ionkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'd like to see Plan 9 being run on a portable device, and up until now I
>> thought the only ways were to get an iPAQ (but are newer model
OK, I see this note and am sorry this is not working well for you. I
will try again this week to get this going.
It's harder now as I'm now on a 64-bit machine and 64-bit lguest is not there.
But I'll try to get you an answer.
Sorry
ron
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Alex Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's what I've done so far (maybe it's excessive list every single
> step, but just in case...):
not at all!
>
> 1. Grab relevant files.
>
> - Download 9lguestcpu.2.6.25.elf and RUNLGUEST from Ron's contrib directory
> - Ge
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:56 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I have gotten the lguest port working on the 2.6.25.0 kernel, it works
>> mighty fine here.
>> The load issue for me is only on plan9, on the host I can see with 'top'
>> that the lguest guest isn't consuming
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:52 AM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:56 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I have gotten the lguest port working on the 2.6.25.0 kernel, it works
>>> mighty fine
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:59 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it any event, fixing timesync properly is likely to fix the excessive
> load problem.
good to know. I probably jumped to the wrong conclusion.
ron
I just realized that even one timesync is too much. You should not
run any at all. The hardware clock is set from Linux and I don't even
allow it to be set. It makes no sense to do that.
So don't let timesync run.
thanks
ron
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:44 PM, John Soros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, still, it would be great to know how to set the time, as my time is way
> off (by more than 4 hours).
What's the time on your host (Linux) look like? Are you sure it's not
a time zone setup issue?
Is it always four hou
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Alex Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem looks similar to this:
> http://9fans.net/archive/2006/03/588 -- except that the lguest
> instance works fine while genrandom is running. Is this genrandom
> behavior anything out of the ordinary?
>
I don't think s
this is weird. So, to recap, your timezone is set correctly, and yet
you are four hours off.
A useful thing to do is cat /dev/time and see how it changes.
The time from lguest is simple: you read a 64-bit # which is time.
It's just like Xen that way.
Also, try this to test another issue:
date &
I just stumbled across a talk I gave in 2002:
Here's one slide:
How to fix this (2): 9sys
We are building a Plan 9 system call set into Linux
It is only 38 calls
Three steps
Initial support as ioctl's from a device (/dev/9sys)
Direct integration into Linux system call table
Remove non-Plan 9 syst
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting. Where is the source for 9sys?
>
It's not worth much.
I've got it if anyone wants it but I would bet glendix is further
along and much better.
ron
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