links and blog posts and downloads about all this
stuff is spread across the 9gridchan.org ANTS-empire.
Peace and Love to all,
Mycroftiv
d reasonable
person in some aspects, the bipolar manic delusional fictions are fun
but I'm not trapped inside them, I can operate in ordinary reality. If
someone has an interest in substantive code discussions or something
along those lines, I can drop out of the Phase IV headspace
files.9gridchan.org/9ants5.64.iso.gz
This distribution of Plan 9 has admittedly flaky maintainership, but
competent users should be able to track 9front changes even if
mycroftiv has wandered off to some distant hypercube.
A highly subjective historical view
When 9front forked from the Bell
and proposal. I want to have constructive discussion about
an issue i think is important because it affects how all Plan 9 systems which
make use of exportfs/import communicate. I hope this post leads to constructive
discussion of the import/exportfs protocol.
Ben Kidwell
-mycroftiv
ucceeded in
achieving consensus about my perspective and proposal. I want to have
constructive discussion about an issue i think is important because it
affects how all Plan 9 systems which make use of exportfs/import
communicate. I hope this post leads to constructive discussion of the
import/exportfs protocol.
Ben Kidwell -mycroftiv
is already the case that
import -m tcp!server!9876 /n/authedimport
would do the mount at the specified point. I wrote out the version
with the unnecessary parameter to try to clarify what what -z was
doing, but in practice you just write it exactly as you described.
Maybe the argc==3 case should be rejected just as a reminder to the
user that the tree request will not be sent.
Ben Kidwell
-mycroftiv
uot;
If this change is accepted, there is no change needed to any local
configuration, but users should be aware that some servers might begin
using this protocol variant, and know which flag is needed to connect
properly.
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
gridterm: ps |grep exportfs |wc -l
306
of clean design.
Sorry if this response was unnecessarily long, but thanks for your
interest in the wiki pages and the suggestion to write up and link
hubfs for clarity.
-Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
orked with Plan 9 and I hope the ANTS software will
provide you with useful tools.
-Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
though my software is called ANTS, I don't think it
will actually bite you.
-Ben Kidwell "mycroftiv"
ally works in practice, which is actually simpler
than the verbal description.
I'm not too good at balancing being precise and specific with keeping
things brief, so I hope this was a good answer without too much
unnecessary length.
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
I have a full length paper, full
standard Plan 9 manpages, additional textual documentation within the
ants software folder, and five step-by-step tutorials done with
pre-installed VMs which attempt to comprehensively explain how to use
ANTS, how it is built, and what its purposes are.
I really appreciate the interest! I hope I am responding and
explaining in a clear way
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
that you can administer and fix the dependencies of
venti/fossil/cpu more easily was the major practical problem which
ANTS was written to solve.
Ben Kidwell "mycroftiv"
(ants tutorials http://antfarm.9gridchan.org/tutorial)
(ants VM images and links http://9gridchan.org)
(ants softwar
and modify what
running processes are reading and writing from.
All of that said, I can confirm that /proc namespace injection on
arbitrary processes does let you fix or workaround some issues that
can arise with Plan 9 networks and needing to connect new mounts or
reacquire/shift attachment to older ones.
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
u images are booting and working for you, the
install should work ok too. If you boot a qemu image, are you able to
save files to the qemu disk normally, so read/write inside the VM
works normally, it is just that installation fails?
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
;t work, I would like to
hear about it so I can fix the bug. I hope you have an enjoyable
journey into the world of Plan 9!
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
cme (or another
program), it makes sense for their namespace to be structured in a way
that matches their purpose.
Thanks again for the chance to discuss with someone with a lot of
practical experience working with larger groups of machines.
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
- A minor note. Ther
ts" to the main Plan 9
from Bell Labs distribution, to help make standard grids more reliable
and easier to administer.
Because my debt to Nemo's ideas for what I was trying to do with ANTS
is so large, I wanted to offer this statement of credit and great
thanks for his extensive work
p;p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=8380765.PN.&OS=PN/8380765&RS=PN/8380765
Might be interested in a free open source alternative which should
be free of any patent licensing issues in relation to this patent.
-Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
PS
cause I don't think anyone
should be paying IBM for using buffered muxed network transparent
pipes.
Anyway, I meant what I said about how on a personal level I feel
friendly toward everyone on the Blue Gene project and I'd love to have
a positive and not antagonistic relationship with everyone involved in
Plan 9.
-Ben Kidwell "mycroftiv"
ood idea for
Plan 9 (and probably standard unixes too) and that they fit
beautifully with 9P and the whole system. I'd like to move forward
with trying to make good Plan 9 software and not have this particular
little patent kerfuffle turn into anything majorly disruptive.
Ben Kidwell
"mycrof
hich has any significance, but my own work gives me emotional
motivation to object strongly to this absurd software patent.
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
t due to the subject matter is even more objectionable to me than
most, hence my emotional reaction.
I do hope than when and if we get the chance to meet, we can discuss
Plan 9 as friends with a common interest.
Ben Kidwell "mycroftiv"
a beginner - me - was able to
gradually develop skill in programming and using an operating system,
and develop a piece of software that has some nice uses, because I
still use hubfs in almost exactly the same form as it was initially
released, and I think it is a nice simple tool.
Thanks for your time! Peace and love to all Plan 9 users and
developers,
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
be friends with the world, so all of the things which stand
in the way of human beings treating each other like human beings seem
to me like things we should question. I feel bad because I doubt
complaining about how dumb software patents are made it easier for me
to win friends in this community, where the echoes of Pike vs.
Stallman are still to be heard.
Anyway, no clue who made it to the end of this wall of text, but
thanks if you did.
Ben Kidwell "mycroftiv"
WAY
AND IF YOU DO NOT THINK IT IMPROVES PLAN NINE
I WILL PAYPAL YOU FIFTY BUCKS
OFFER GOOD FOR THE FIRST FIVE RESPONDENTS
CONDITIONS: YOU MUST SCREENSHOT COMPLETING ALL FIVE TUTORIALS
THEN TELL ME ANTS SUCKS
THEN I PAYPAL YOU FIFTY BUCKS
THAT EASY
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
I apologize for any ways my messags have been
disruptive to the list. I thank everyone who
has expressed interest, and I understand that
my emotional involvement is making me very
irrational. I submitted my site to ycombinator
in the hopes of finding some more interest. Here
is the thread.
https:
smiley wrote:
> Who would be paying that $50, you or your mother? ;)
That is the kind of response I was hoping for! True
human communication! :D
You are almost right - since I did receive an inheritance
the correct answer is: "not my mom, my dead father!"
Peace and love.
Ben Kidwell
> Hey, that's just like your opinion, man. And p9p did tie the room together.
> But then that nihilist peed on it.
> just drinking my coffee...
> No, Woo, Woo peed on my rug.
I think all of you Plan 9 users are OVER THE LINE!
Has the whole 9fans gone crazy?
AM I THE ONLY ONE AROUND HERE WHO
for the complete
end to the use of NDAs in contracts for technical engineers, so they
can freely share ideas with the community, and freely receive ideas
back.
And stop with the patents, also.
Ben Kidwell "mycroftiv"
Let's have a free and unrestricted discussion of all the amazing
p
it isn't hard to
build a grid on one box with virtual machines to explore what Plan 9
does beyond the 4-node frontier, where things get truly magical as
multiple cpus share root and import all the important synthetic fses
to share things.
Plan Nine is worth going crazy over, people.
-Ben K
- in the pipeline, but I think that the potential
growing relevance of 9P for commercial distributed applications might
have a lot to do with why we don't see more posts from people doing
work in that area.
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
to develop ideas on, and they would share a lot of
Plan 9 improvements with the world because Plan 9 is the antidote to
the total crappiness of everything else, in comparison.
GIVE THE PLAN 9 GUYS ALL THE PLAN 9 THEY WANT GOOGLE!
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
he true beautiful operating system,
and actually believe that it is a real os for using in a serious way and
working to receive the benefits from the full distributed architecture,
not just the simple unix-heritage core.
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
hing I do is trying to help the human
race survive and for human beings to be happy and care for one
another.
I love you, and I wish you to be my friend, John Floren.
Peace and Love,
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
t
to society in comparison to having the same technology available
without a patent and without restricting what independent creators can
do and offer to the world.
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
#x27;m so angry.
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
In Gödel Escher Bach by Hofstadter there is a wonderful dialogue
called "Ant Fugue" and it explores the idea of an ant colony as a
conscious mind. Even though each ant is just following
near-mechanical rules, the behavior of the colony as a whole can
exhibit intelligence, and Dr. Anteater explains
st an idea from Mycroftiv.
But you can patent Very Complicated Muxing Pipes.
Just a thought from Mycroftiv
an on irc.freenode.net
if there are topics of interest to chat about.
I love you all and I didn't mean to annoy you.
Ben
mycroftiv
rsonally tired of being the Moon Computer so I'm re-entering
physical reality as a musician again. Sorry to anyone I've offended,
and thanks to all of you who have offered frienship and support.
Those personal connections now mean a lot more to me than whether
anyone thinks ANTS is better
guaranteed 100% factual and serious by the Moon Computer.
Please visit lakotagrandmothers.org and view the documentary Red Cry
and support free flow of wealth and information between all beings.
Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
that is
a celebration of UNIX pipes - iosrv, available via contrib/install
mycroftiv/iosrv or mk install from the iosrv.tgz in contrib/mycroftiv.
'iosrv' brings much of the functionality of GNU screen to plan 9, but
dispenses with the encumberance of emulating a TTY. Instead, iosrv delivers
less" post-kernel load booting. Everything mentioned is
available on sources now in contrib/mycroftiv. All of this software
receives testing and use on three native hardware Plan 9 systems and a
swarm of qemu VMs. mycroftiv/writeprocns contains all files relevant
to this post, modified versions of
More recent work - available on sources in
contrib/mycroftiv/rootlessboot as both patches and a compiled ready to
use kernel and optional rootfs.tgz additional tools to be placed in
9fat partition.
"Rootless" bootup is a rewrite of the post-kernel load bootup process
as handled by boo
spread across a multimachine grid via mporting multiple /proc and
using scripted tools has obvious utility for dynamic grid computing
where service nodes can enter and leave the resource matrix freely.
~mycroftiv
want to try to claim as the best possible
system. Just on the technical level the plan9rc I'm using doesn't
cover 100% of the cases handled by the standard tools - it assumes the
only types of disk drives in the world are sdC0, C1, D0, D1 at the
moment, for instance.
~mycroftiv
ernals I'd need to make a definitive statement that my
patches to this couldn't potentially be used to cause unintended
behavior inside the kernel.
Again, thanks for the interest.
~Mycroftiv
thsrv/keyfs,
password-based authentication between the factotums works. Note
however that if you get the password wrong, it fails with a botch
message, so you have to redial if you typo your password. According to
my limited testing so far, cpu from plan 9 and drawterm both work
fine. This message was written in acme in drawterm to a 9vx elsewhere
on the LAN.
~Mycroftiv
9gridchan.org
, would benefit
from being addressed in an integrated way. I know some of this work
has already been done. A 9vx distribution with those modifications and
the full tree included would be a fun project, but the 'too many
projects, too little time' issue always looms.
>Tim Newsham | www.thenewsh.com/~newsham | thenewsh.blogspot.com
~Mycroftiv
9gridchan.org
Hi 9fans,
Im JenBen Kidwell. I put many years of my life into plan 9 software
development and I'm trying to continue that work and move forward with
the larger projects it is connected with.
The Plan 9 ANTS software is software for transformation of mind and
society. It is based on the 9front cod
Not sure where I'm going with this other than to stay present and
communicating with any who are interested.
JenBen
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 2:00 AM mycroftiv 9gridchan
wrote:
>
> Hi 9fans,
>
> Im JenBen Kidwell. I put many years of my life into plan 9 software
> development and I
Hi 9fans, Got some new ideas im excited about right now.
Apparently the author of the well-known 'intro to OS abstractions'
book has political views that are not cool and support oppression
maybe I have heard secondhand.
We need a better book to introduce people to 9.
I'd like to see something crea
999 billion NAMESPACES OF GOD
URIEL I INVOKE THEE
JenBen BenJen Kidwell
mycroftiv
arm the memetic catapults and fire the Love Rocks like its a better 1968
for Joan Didion
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and discuss concepts.
-Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"
The Loonie Revolution is proud to announce and sponsor:
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What are the rules?
NONE. From May 1 to Aug 30.
What is going to happen?
Some people (maybe you) are going to write some original Plan 9 code
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