Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread Willow Liquorice
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Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread vester . thacker
I'm relieved this mailing list focuses on Plan 9, not 9front, since I don't use 9front. I submitted two patches today—no armchair engineers around here. Besides ranting, move beyond it. Let it rest. - Vic On Fri, Oct 4, 2024, at 14:45, Willow Liquorice wrote: > This just in from #cat-v on oftc

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread vester . thacker
I agree with Willow. Zig would make an excellent addition to Plan 9. If it were available, I'd certainly adopt it. I suspect it would also draw in a new crowd, bringing fresh perspectives to the community. - Vic -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.t

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
Be confused no more: https://n-skvortsov-1997.github.io/reviews/ I found that link after a single search for 'v programming language controversy' using duck duck go. It was linked from a hacker news post. There are other resources. The controversy has made the rounds on numerous tech news sites an

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread ori
https://github.com/g-w1/plan9zig/ Quoth vester.thac...@fastmail.fm: > I agree with Willow. Zig would make an excellent addition to Plan 9. If it > were available, I'd certainly adopt it. I suspect it would also draw in a new > crowd, bringing fresh perspectives to the community. > > - Vic

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread vester . thacker
On Fri, Oct 4, 2024, at 11:25, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > https://github.com/g-w1/plan9zig/ Thank you. This looks promising, however two things have changed since the time that was written. 1. std.Build has been renamed to std.build.Builder, which reflects Zig's ongoing development and refac

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread Willow Liquorice
I believe you're misinformed about bootstrapping Zig. The link to the Zig README in my previous email is to the section that describes how to bootstrap Zig *using only a C compiler*. For more details, refer to my previous email. The most annoying thing about Zig, potentially, is the "package m

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread Willow Liquorice
I must admit that my rather non-committal email on V is largely down to my low appetite for years-old programming language drama. Wikipedia is also far from comprehensive. Nothing is quite there yet as a "new language" for Plan 9. Rust is *too* abstract and is quite baroque (see: custom alloca

Re: [9fans] Sam: Is This a Bug?

2024-10-03 Thread umbraticus
try this and it should make sense: x/.+\n.*/ x/\n/ d with .* to the left of the \n you get the following: match foo\nbar and delete the \n match \nbaz and delete the \n match \nqux and delete the \n match \nquux and delete the \n match \n and delete it umbraticus --

Re: [9fans] Sam: Is This a Bug?

2024-10-03 Thread kalterdev
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Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread dpe
I am confused by the divisive views on V. On one hand people who seem to know their onions speak well of it. @Willow provides helpful reasons why the project might have started inauspiciously, whereas by contrast @Noam I feel you cast vague aspersions without evidence. Perhaps for a fledgeling l

[9fans] Sam: Is This a Bug?

2024-10-03 Thread kalterdev
Consider the following sample text: foo bar baz qux quux The purpose is to merge each pair of words, so that the text becomes: foobar bazqux quux The following command works fine: x/.+\n.+/ x/\n/ d But the following one does not: x/.*\n.*/ x/\n/ d It results in all \n being deleted. I supp

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread Noam Preil
They've made ridiculous, obviously-false claims. You can look it up fairly easily if you want, I recall articles titled "V is for Vaporware" and the like from a few years back. the very short explanation: they have had outright lies on their website since, IIRC, 2018. They have still not fixed th

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread vester . thacker
ThePrimeagen has put together a couple of solid videos on Vlang, blending entertainment with valuable insights. 1. In this reaction video, he dives into Vlang with his signature mix of humor and curiosity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j47Hk5qE9As&list=PL6Vr-1-zVu5CUQOoZa-3BYYbYJ1CGlpRH For a