Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

2009-05-22 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
How about disk storage ... HS21 have internal SAS controller that is unsopported by Plan9. > > I'll just have to get my hands on one of those floppy disks i keep hearing > so much about from my grandfather. ;) > > > > -- С наилучшими пожеланиями Жилкин Сергей With best regards Zhilkin Sergey

Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

2009-05-22 Thread erik quanstrom
> Ok so i'm hearing a lot of "unsupported" here. > I just wanted to mention that when it boots up from the CD it shows boot > devices: fd0 so it seems like only floppy is recognized. > > This could be because this DVD-drive is kinda glitchy, FreeBSD had issues > with it too when i installed it but

Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

2009-05-22 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
2009/5/20 erik quanstrom > > Hi ! > > > > It seems that Plan9 boot loader doesn't support modern hardware from IBM > :( > > > > May be someone from IBM can help :) > > > > P.S.: I have some IBM HS21 servers and I wish to use Plan9 on them. > > > > 2009/5/19 nocturnal > > pci (or linux lspci -n)

Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

2009-05-22 Thread erik quanstrom
> > pci (or linux lspci -n) output would be helpful. > > > > - erik > > > > lspci -n from IBM HS21 [...] > 00:1f.2 0101: 8086:2680 (rev 09) i have a couple of cpu servers that use similar hardware. (at least the 63xxesb southbridge). the ide driver works with ide drives and the ahci driver works

Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

2009-05-22 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
HS21 does't have IDE pinouts and drives. Only QLogic SAS controller and two SFF SAS Drives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_BladeCenter#HS21 2009/5/22 erik quanstrom > > > pci (or linux lspci -n) output would be helpful. > > > > > > - erik > > > > > > lspci -n from IBM HS21 > [...] > > > 00:1f.2

Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

2009-05-22 Thread Steve Simon
> lspci -n from IBM HS21 00:00.0 0600: 8086:25d8 (rev b1) Intel Corporation 00:02.0 0604: 8086:25f7 (rev b1) Intel Corporation 00:03.0 0604: 8086:25e3 (rev b1) Intel Corporation 00:04.0 0604: 8086:25e4 (rev b1) Intel Corporation 00:05.0 0604: 8086:25e5 (rev b1)

Re: [9fans] 9p server under GNU/Linux

2009-05-22 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Juan M. Mendez wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if current npfs or spfs supports exporting different > directories, each one with different permissions (protected by > uid/pass). Is it possible? > > My aim is to give users different views of the filesystem of an

[9fans] MIPS - P9P acme seems OK

2009-05-22 Thread lucio
Is it unreasonable for me to rejoice that P9P compiles without (much) trouble on the Yeeloong (Orchid) Notebook from Lemote? I started acme and superficial use suggests that it will work on this particular MIPS architecture without any hitch. I must concede that it is a point in favour of GCC. R

Re: [9fans] MIPS - P9P acme seems OK

2009-05-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri May 22 10:29:54 EDT 2009, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > Is it unreasonable for me to rejoice that P9P compiles without (much) > trouble on the Yeeloong (Orchid) Notebook from Lemote? I started acme > and superficial use suggests that it will work on this particular MIPS > architecture witho

Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

2009-05-22 Thread blstuart
> Broadcom / ServerWorks BCM5715 Broadcom dual gigabit, pci bridge > 04:00.0 0200: 14e4:16ac (rev 12) > Broadcom Corporation > 05:00.0 0604: 1166:0103 (rev c3) > Broadcom / ServerWorks BCM5715 Broadcom dual gigabit, pci bridge > > Broadcom GigE - these are a problem, as I underst

Re: [9fans] MIPS - P9P acme seems OK

2009-05-22 Thread lucio
> in favor of gcc over against what? p9p always uses gcc. In favour of GCC. It promises portability and in this case, at least, it delivers. This is mips-l, but I note that it is not the 64-bit model ;-( I must look into that. ++L

Re: [9fans] 9p server under GNU/Linux

2009-05-22 Thread Latchesar Ionkov
If you don't use the Spfile/Npfile interfaces, you can easily do it. Spfile/Npfile support a single root directory, so you'll need to do some tricks to implement what you need. I think that your own npfile_attach/spfile_attach implementation would be sufficient. There are some static functions in f

Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

2009-05-22 Thread Mathieu L.
> and as these are blades you have no chance to plug in a > supported PCI NIC. Hello, I don't know if that's relevant but I had no problem pluging in a supported PCI NIC card in my IBM eserver 325, after I found out the default (broadcom too I think) one was not supported. 3.4.0: net 02.00.0

[9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello when I try '9fs sources' I get a timeout establishing connection... (all day today) I guess it's not my problem, or is it? Thanks Ruda (why does this happen SO OFTEN?)

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: > (why does this happen SO OFTEN?) warning: complaining about something you get for free is counter-productive. Unless, of course, you are also offering to help in some way. ron

Re: [9fans] aux/acidleak pool pathology

2009-05-22 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:13 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > unfortunately, i think this will just encourage users to > aim for 10 messages in their inbox. Have you ever pointed an IMAP client at “[Gmail]/All Mail” and asked it to download all headers? —Joel

Re: [9fans] aux/acidleak pool pathology

2009-05-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri May 22 12:54:27 EDT 2009, joelcsalo...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:13 PM, erik quanstrom > wrote: > > unfortunately, i think this will just encourage users to > > aim for 10 messages in their inbox. > > Have you ever pointed an IMAP client at “[Gmail]/All Mail” and a

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread erik quanstrom
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Rudolf Sykora > wrote: > > > (why does this happen SO OFTEN?) > > warning: complaining about something you get for free is > counter-productive. Unless, of course, you are also offering to help > in some way. > > ron there's web-only access at http://sources

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Rudolf Sykora
>> (why does this happen SO OFTEN?) > > warning: complaining about something you get for free is > counter-productive. Unless, of course, you are also offering to help > in some way. > > ron well, maybe. Maybe not. In order I be of any help I need to know why the hell this happens, first. I know

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread dave . l
You may think it's a question of money (you mentioned it is for free). It's not. There are many projects out, totally for free, but reliable. When I do something it must be reliable, or it's worth criticizing. Firstly if sources goes down, no-one dies so it's not a big deal. Secondly, given the

Re: [9fans] 9p server under GNU/Linux

2009-05-22 Thread Juan M. Mendez
2009/5/22 Latchesar Ionkov : > If you don't use the Spfile/Npfile interfaces, you can easily do it. > Spfile/Npfile support a single root directory, so you'll need to do > some tricks to implement what you need. I think that your own > npfile_attach/spfile_attach implementation would be sufficient.

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Uriel
Warning, posting gratuitous obnoxious condescending comments is counter-productive. Complaining about things on the other hand, it is helpful, specially when certain people insist in being in denial of certain problems. Also note that many people have offered to help, and help is clearly not welc

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Uriel
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: >>> (why does this happen SO OFTEN?) >> >> warning: complaining about something you get for free is >> counter-productive. Unless, of course, you are also offering to help >> in some way. >> >> ron > > well, maybe. Maybe not. > > In order I be

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Uriel
Something that is totally unreliable, no matter how cool, is not very useful. And I think anyone that has limited time, and who wants to get something done, will pick "very reliable but totally shit" over "very unreliable but very cool" every single time. Also there is little reason for Plan 9 se

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
Okay Noah, you've been tee'd up. See how easy that was? -Eric Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Uriel wrote: Warning, posting gratuitous obnoxious condescending comments is counter-productive. Complaining about things on the other hand, it is helpful, specially when certa

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: > In order I be of any help I need to know why the hell this happens, > first. I know next to nothing about how the whole system of sources > works, still I can help if I know how. But I do not remember anybody > saying: 'hey guys, we have th

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Uriel
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:31 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Rudolf Sykora > wrote: > >> In order I be of any help I need to know why the hell this happens, >> first. I know next to nothing about how the whole system of sources >> works, still I can help if I know how

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Noah Evans
Uriel here's an honest question, would you stop complaining if you had your own account on the murray hill version of plan9 will full access to the venti? You'd also have the freedom to do whatever you want with it. Yes or no. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Uriel wrote: > Something that is to

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Uriel wrote: > Something that is totally unreliable, no matter how cool, is not very useful. > > And I think anyone that has limited time, and who wants to get > something done, will pick "very reliable but totally shit" over "very > unreliable but very cool" every

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Latchesar Ionkov
The reality is that the sources outages rarely cause any _real_ problems. I wasn't able to access it few days ago, and instead of bothering geoff or jim, I just waited few hours. The server came up and I got what I needed. Lucho On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Uriel wrote: > On Fri, May 22,

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Rudolf Sykora
> While not having direct knowledge of what caused the current outage, I > can say that such outages are rarely caused by Plan 9 or the hardware > on which its running. Ok. So what caused the other outrages in the recent past? (I may give at least one other date, on which I even asked the same que

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: >> While not having direct knowledge of what caused the current outage, I >> can say that such outages are rarely caused by Plan 9 or the hardware >> on which its running. > > Ok. So what caused the other outrages in the recent past? > (I may g

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
sources.lsub.org is avaiable just by using 9fs. But it's probably better to wait for the real thing. There are also several other mirrors IIRC that have been posted to this list. On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Rudolf Sykora > wro

[9fans] cdfs(4) multi-track DVDs

2009-05-22 Thread Anthony Sorace
cdfs(4) contains a paragraph in BUGS that reads: Closing a just-written DVD-R track can take minutes while the drive burns the unused part of the track reservation (for the whole disc). Thus only a single DVD-R track can be written on a DVD-R disc; use other

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Anant Narayanan
On 23-May-09, at 1:54 AM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote: sources.lsub.org is avaiable just by using 9fs. But it's probably better to wait for the real thing. There are also several other mirrors IIRC that have been posted to this list. % 9fs kix.in /n/sources -- Anant

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.plan9/browse_thread/thread/7cda8e292be895a5/ec8ea0a9abbc8a69?lnk=gst&q=rob+pike+weekend#ec8ea0a9abbc8a69 well, maybe not so quiet.

Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

2009-05-22 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
I have an PCI expansion unit. Adaptec Inc ASC-29320ALP Ultra320 SCSI Controller is lpuggit in it, and second port is free :) It's not a problem... Problem is with LSI Logic LSISAS1064ET PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS :) 2009/5/22 Steve Simon > > lspci -n from IBM HS21 > > 00:00.0 0600: 8086:25d8 (