On Feb 23, 2025, at 11:43, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
>
> Surely the pinephone must be inevitable at some point?
Someone’s actively working on a 9front port:
https://github.com/driusan/9front-A64
He was making good progress but seems to have broken his power button which
might slow things down. I
On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 08:20:29PM +0100, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
> What about the risc-v version of this
> https://www.clockworkpi.com/product-page/uconsole-kit-r-01
I own this. I have not been able to get anything but linux to run on
it.
> Or the MNT Pocket Reform… I haven
> On Feb 23, 2025, at 01:07, Jacob Moody wrote:
>
> 9front does not run on the rpi5 and there hasn't been anyone interested so
> far in doing the port work.
That’s a bummer, but I understand. It has to be interesting to someone who
knows where to start. And they do have the reputation for no
On 2/22/25 15:45, Alyssa M via 9fans wrote:
> On Friday, February 21, 2025, at 11:14 PM, Dworkin Muller wrote:
>> However, I'm talking about the scenario where you know absolutely nothing
>> because you want to find out what this Plan 9 thing, and are starting from
>> scratch trying to get an ini
On Friday, February 21, 2025, at 11:14 PM, Dworkin Muller wrote:
> However, I'm talking about the scenario where you know absolutely
nothing because you want to find out what this Plan 9 thing, and are
starting from scratch trying to get an initial installation booted on
hardware that may or may no
One thing we've discussed, many times over the years, is creating a small
box that would bootstrap a network of Plan 9 systems, i.e. "9 in a box". It
would use coraid ether console (CEC), so no need to find a serial port
adapter.
You would get the box, put it on your network, connect to its conso
'#' paths aren't namespaceable, so they should be used very rarely in
the system.
Quoth Dworkin Muller :
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 22:45:54 -0600, Jacob Moody wrote:
> moody> What do you mean everything uses these # names?
> moody> Can you provide some context on what parts of the terminal installat
I view these driver identifier characters as being roughly the
equivalent of the major device numbers used in UNIX/Linux systems behind
the scenes, commonly accessed via the files under the /dev heirarchy.
I don't think those numbers are really standardized either.
On 2/22/25 04:10, tlaro...@
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 02:31:04PM -0800, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> This topic was brought up a few years ago and some helpful suggestions
> were made:
>
> https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tc21478a4dc8e2df1-M53e7a145d7e726e30dd4bbed
>
The keyboard is assigned L'b' (for pc and sgi), and in
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 22:45:54 -0600, Jacob Moody wrote:
moody> What do you mean everything uses these # names?
moody> Can you provide some context on what parts of the terminal installation
moody> process you felt like required knowledge of sharp paths?
moody> What guides are you referring to?
I v
On 2/21/25 17:14, Dworkin Muller wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 15:03:11 -0600, Jacob Moody wrote:
> moody> This is not quite the case though, /dev/drivers gives you a mapping of
> the
> moody> single character names to their "full" names. This name then
> corresponds to
> moody> their entry withi
skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote:
: This topic was brought up a few years ago and some helpful suggestions
: were made:
You may note that I'm the one that brought it up that time, too
``Helpful'' is kind of relative. They're great once you have a
functional enough system to be able to look t
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 15:03:11 -0600, Jacob Moody wrote:
moody> This is not quite the case though, /dev/drivers gives you a mapping of
the
moody> single character names to their "full" names. This name then corresponds
to
moody> their entry within section 3 of the manual pages. Where you'll find
This topic was brought up a few years ago and some helpful suggestions
were made:
https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tc21478a4dc8e2df1-M53e7a145d7e726e30dd4bbed
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 4:17 PM Dworkin Muller wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 09:09:31 -0800, ron minnich wrote:
> rminnich> Base
On 2/21/25 14:45, Dworkin Muller wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:21:45 +, Stuart Morrow
> wrote:
> morrow.stuart> How is it different from flags?
>
> Well, typically flags are specific to some command, and are documented
> somewhere. Also, these get used as the first element in a path, and
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:21:45 +, Stuart Morrow
wrote:
morrow.stuart> How is it different from flags?
Well, typically flags are specific to some command, and are documented
somewhere. Also, these get used as the first element in a path, and
are (or seem to be) used mostly in contexts where yo
enumeration? like the one on /dev/drivers?
-rodri
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 01:17 Dworkin Muller wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 09:09:31 -0800, ron minnich
> wrote:
> rminnich> Based on the response to my note re: things that act like
> strace, I'm going
> rminnich> to start accumulating a "plan 9
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 at 00:17, Dworkin Muller wrote:
> Plan 9's mostly single-character names, with no
> apparent connection to what they correspond to,
> have completely flummoxed me more times
How is it different from flags?
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There’s also
https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/Unix_to_Plan_9_command_translation/index.html FWIW; it
doesn’t seem to be editable AFAICT. Maybe it’s worthwhile to merge anything
interesting from there into the garden wiki.
> On Feb 20, 2025, at 19:33, Ori Bernstein wrote:
>
> perhaps:
>
>htt
This might also help:
cd /sys/src/9
grep devattach */*.c | sed 's/(.*):.*attach\(L?''(.)'',.*;/\2 \1/' | sort
though it misses a few.
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On Feb 20, 2025, at 16:17, Dworkin Muller wrote:
>
> Plan 9's mostly single-character names, with no
> apparent connection to what they correspond to, have completely
> flummoxed me more times than I care to count.
A listing with a sentence or two per device and pointers to the corresponding
ma
On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 09:09:31 -0800, ron minnich wrote:
rminnich> Based on the response to my note re: things that act like strace, I'm
going
rminnich> to start accumulating a "plan 9 for linux users" doc. It helps to
have a
rminnich> guide it seems.
Something that would be really helpful would
perhaps:
https://shithub.us/garden/wiki.9front.org/HEAD/unix2plan9.md/f.html
Which is the source for:
http://wiki.9front.org/unix2plan9
Everything under the garden/ user in shithub is
the community garden; everyone with an account
has sufficient access to fertilize any repo ther
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