Ah nice. Thanks, I completely missed that email.
D
On Oct 20, 2012, at 11:47 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
>> Is the main plan9 server down?
>
> Geoff warned us that he was shutting down all Plan 9 equipment at Bell
> Labs. He threatened to bring them up later.
>
> ++L
>
>
> Is the main plan9 server down?
Geoff warned us that he was shutting down all Plan 9 equipment at Bell
Labs. He threatened to bring them up later.
++L
Is the main plan9 server down?
Thanks,
D
erik quanstrom wrote:
I use ~ patterns for URI matching on my site
what are "~ patterns"?
rc shell pattern matching
> I use ~ patterns for URI matching on my site
what are "~ patterns"?
- erik
P.S. So far it seems that werc wouldn't be able to manage
highly dynamic and volatile URI hierarchies as long as it
is run under anything but Plan9. Ironically it doesn't
seem to run there.
I use ~ patterns for URI matching on my site
http://ten.steponnopets.net/
it's a bit of a work in
> On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 00:13 +0200, Uriel wrote:
> > My criticism was directed at how they are actually used in pretty much
> > every web 'framework' under the sun: with some hideously messy ORM
> > layer, they plug round Objects down the square db tables, and all of
> > it to write applications w
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 12:54 +0100, maht wrote:
>> >>> How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
>> Not Rails or merb or anything non Plan 9 but a few of us are building an
>> rc shell based system that wo
>FSs have a bit of a downside in how they make everything look like tree
>structures.
In which way is this a constrain?
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 19:19 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > yes. there are several web servers, including one in the standard
> > dist. however, rails or merb might be something you'd have to do
> > yourself.
>
> Did anyone already get java running on Plan9 ?
Java is too many things. Strictly
On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 00:13 +0200, Uriel wrote:
> My criticism was directed at how they are actually used in pretty much
> every web 'framework' under the sun: with some hideously messy ORM
> layer, they plug round Objects down the square db tables, and all of
> it to write applications which reall
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 12:54 +0100, maht wrote:
> >>> How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
> Not Rails or merb or anything non Plan 9 but a few of us are building an
> rc shell based system that works anywhere CGI and Plan 9 / plan9port is
> available.
>
> http
cgi is more than parsing query strings, there are at least two other
variable passing mechanisms x-www-form-encoded (query string as the POST
body) and multipart/form-data - the sort that's required when uploading
binary stuff.
Common Gateway Interface is a 36 page RFC : http://www.ietf.org/r
On Sun Apr 19 21:44:25 EDT 2009, 9...@9netics.com wrote:
> i think John mentioned he was using cgi.c that's in Russ' contrib
> area. did i imagine it? (entirely possible)
i'm sorry. i took "cgi" to be a free variable. my mistake.
- erik
i think John mentioned he was using cgi.c that's in Russ' contrib
area. did i imagine it? (entirely possible)
> On Sun Apr 19 18:04:51 EDT 2009, benave...@gmail.com wrote:
>> skip is pretty much on the point exactly the same convention is valid
>> for cgifs.
>>
>> http://machine/cgifs/script?va
again cgi is a standalone app, /n/sources/contrib/rsc/cgi.c is the one
setting QUERY_STRING
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:21 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Sun Apr 19 18:04:51 EDT 2009, benave...@gmail.com wrote:
>> skip is pretty much on the point exactly the same convention is valid
>> for cgifs.
>
On Sun Apr 19 18:04:51 EDT 2009, benave...@gmail.com wrote:
> skip is pretty much on the point exactly the same convention is valid
> for cgifs.
>
> http://machine/cgifs/script?var0=val0&var1=val1
>
> cgi as cgifs are programs that parse the requested uri and from there,
> after the 2nd '/', get
skip is pretty much on the point exactly the same convention is valid
for cgifs.
http://machine/cgifs/script?var0=val0&var1=val1
cgi as cgifs are programs that parse the requested uri and from there,
after the 2nd '/', get the script name "script" in the example above.
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:
On Sun Apr 19 12:03:54 EDT 2009, 9...@9netics.com wrote:
> you could make local mods to your httpd so that paths starting with
> /cgi are given similar treatment as those that start with /magic; it
> would execute "cgi" and pass it the arguments as usual. then url is:
>
> http://myserver/cgi/foo?
you could make local mods to your httpd so that paths starting with
/cgi are given similar treatment as those that start with /magic; it
would execute "cgi" and pass it the arguments as usual. then url is:
http://myserver/cgi/foo?var1=1&var2=2
and in script "foo" the $QUERY_STRING will be "var1=
On Sun Apr 19 09:13:28 EDT 2009, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
> >>http://myserver/magic/cgi/foo?var1=val1?var2=val2
> >
> > i think you wish
> >
> > http://myserver/magic/cgi?var1=val1&var2=val2
> >
> > - erik
>
> So what are these magical vars? Where do I specify
> the cgi program to ru
>> http://myserver/magic/cgi/foo?var1=val1?var2=val2
>
> i think you wish
>
> http://myserver/magic/cgi?var1=val1&var2=val2
>
> - erik
So what are these magical vars? Where do I specify
the cgi program to run?
John
> http://myserver/magic/cgi/foo?var1=val1?var2=val2
i think you wish
http://myserver/magic/cgi?var1=val1&var2=val2
- erik
> http://myserver/magic/cgi/foo
check the logfile /sys/log/httpd/clf
also, don't you want to do somthing more like:
http://myserver/magic/cgi/foo?var1=val1?var2=val2
This is an educated guess rather tha experience talking.
-Steve
>> So, how hard is it to get werc running on real Plan 9? The readme was
>> for Plan 9 Ports last time I checked.
>
> Shouldn't be hard, aside from a couple of paths that might need fixing
> (perhaps using bind(1) will do), it should run out of the box.
>
> The only issue is that it expects to ru
> I really didn't want to get into this debate, my point about COBOL was
> more about the archaic syntax than anything else.
the way not to get into a debate is to not make controvertial
claims about the facts.
- erik
> So, how hard is it to get werc running on real Plan 9? The readme was
> for Plan 9 Ports last time I checked.
Shouldn't be hard, aside from a couple of paths that might need fixing
(perhaps using bind(1) will do), it should run out of the box.
The only issue is that it expects to run as a CGI,
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:27 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> While I think SQL *really* sucks (besides smelling too much of COBOL,
>> it pretends to be relational when it is not),
>
> your facts here are incorrect. clearly sql is relational, if you take
> codd's meaning of the term. also sql as a
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Rudolf Sykora
> wrote:
>>> Writing the core of a blog engine in three lines of rc is hard to
>>> beat, plus you get the benefit of being able to manipulate and manage
>>> all your data using the tools any self respecting Unix user loves.
>>>
>>> uriel
>>
>> well
> While I think SQL *really* sucks (besides smelling too much of COBOL,
> it pretends to be relational when it is not),
your facts here are incorrect. clearly sql is relational, if you take
codd's meaning of the term. also sql as a language has nothing
to do with cobol. cobol, like fortran, c
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
>> Writing the core of a blog engine in three lines of rc is hard to
>> beat, plus you get the benefit of being able to manipulate and manage
>> all your data using the tools any self respecting Unix user loves.
>>
>> uriel
>
> well, I haven't
While I think SQL *really* sucks (besides smelling too much of COBOL,
it pretends to be relational when it is not), that was not my point,
and I agree with you that relational databases don't store objects,
and that relational databases do have valid uses that are sadly often
overlooked (maybe thi
* erik quanstrom wrote:
Hi,
> yes. there are several web servers, including one in the standard
> dist. however, rails or merb might be something you'd have to do
> yourself.
Did anyone already get java running on Plan9 ?
I dont know anything about ruby, but IMHO python could be compiled
into
2009/4/17 maht :
>
>> well, I haven't thought about it deeply yet, but what I guess could be
>> a problem with your approach is that many features would have to be
>> somehow implemented first so that it all be useable. I mean e.g. ajax
>> style of page content refresh, session management, perhaps
well, I haven't thought about it deeply yet, but what I guess could be
a problem with your approach is that many features would have to be
somehow implemented first so that it all be useable. I mean e.g. ajax
style of page content refresh, session management, perhaps POST method
too.
ruda
On Fri Apr 17 08:33:12 EDT 2009, urie...@gmail.com wrote:
> And then you would need some hideous SQL database.
>
> As ken said: we have persistent objects, they are called files; and
> that is what werc uses.
i feel compelled to defend one of my favorite quotes
of all time from misapplication. i
2009/4/17 Rudolf Sykora :
>> Writing the core of a blog engine in three lines of rc is hard to
>> beat, plus you get the benefit of being able to manipulate and manage
>> all your data using the tools any self respecting Unix user loves.
>>
>> uriel
>
> well, I haven't thought about it deeply yet,
> Writing the core of a blog engine in three lines of rc is hard to
> beat, plus you get the benefit of being able to manipulate and manage
> all your data using the tools any self respecting Unix user loves.
>
> uriel
well, I haven't thought about it deeply yet, but what I guess could be
a proble
>> How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
>
> Very difficult. No, not feasible. You would have to port Ruby. And
> then possibly rails, too. Plan 9 isn't UNIX, or UNIX-like, or POSIX
> (or POSIX-like). APE helps with some stuff, but not all the way.
And then you w
2009/4/17 maht :
>
How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
>
> Not Rails or merb or anything non Plan 9 but a few of us are building an rc
> shell based system that works anywhere CGI and Plan 9 / plan9port is
> available.
>
> http://werc.cat-v.org/
Yes, I've
How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
Not Rails or merb or anything non Plan 9 but a few of us are building an
rc shell based system that works anywhere CGI and Plan 9 / plan9port is
available.
http://werc.cat-v.org/
> I thought I'd seen a ruby port in the contrib list...
> And if merb were just written (portably) in ruby, then, I thought, it
> wouldn't have to be that difficult...
/n/sources/contrib/fgb/tar/ruby.tgz
- erik
>
>> How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
>
> Very difficult. No, not feasible. You would have to port Ruby. And
> then possibly rails, too. Plan 9 isn't UNIX, or UNIX-like, or POSIX
> (or POSIX-like). APE helps with some stuff, but not all the way.
I thought I'
2009/4/16 Rudolf Sykora :
> Hello,
>
> I've been wondering (and not reading much)...
> If I'd like to use plan9 as a www server, is there anything ready?
Yes, there is a pre-built httpd and libraries for writing your own.
Recent apache probably doesn't compile in APE (but maybe it does).
> How di
yes. there are several web servers, including one in the standard
dist. however, rails or merb might be something you'd have to do
yourself.
- erik
Hello,
I've been wondering (and not reading much)...
If I'd like to use plan9 as a www server, is there anything ready?
How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
thanks
ruda
% cd /mnt/wiki/
% ls | grep '^web_server$'
web_server
% cd web_server
Can't cd web_server: 'web_server' file does not exist
Why is this happening? My Mac OS X Safari reports the same thing.
- Pietro
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