[9fans] plan9port mac mouse clicks in qemu

2025-03-22 Thread Russ Cox
Hi all, I have been working on Plan 9 mainly under qemu on my Mac. I missed the ability to use acme on the Mac trackpad, so I ported the plan9port click modifier code to the Plan 9 kernel. The old "shift swaps middle and right button" is still in effect, but now "option+click is button2, command+c

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-10-06 Thread Kyohei Kadota via 9fans
> normal buttons are 0 1 2 3 4, and the shifted ones are 5 6 7 8 9.) > > https://github.com/9fans/plan9port/commit/0c79c32675e83ff3d87d5bf52082652d85486a45 > > Best, > Russ > > > 9fans / 9fans / see discussions + participants + delivery options Permalink --

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-10-02 Thread ori
Quoth Russ Cox : > > In plan9port, back in 2020, I wrote a new parser in rc to clean up a few > things, most notably that = signs are now allowed in command arguments. > This makes rc much nicer for using programs with -foo=bar flag syntax. It > was pointed out to me that I may not have announced

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-10-01 Thread David Leimbach via 9fans
Like a vector clock might? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2024, at 2:32 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > i believe that assumes a state exists in the universe where they are "in > step" > >> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 2:14 AM Alyssa M via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: >> >> If mouse clic

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-10-01 Thread hiro
i believe that assumes a state exists in the universe where they are "in step" On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 2:14 AM Alyssa M via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > > If mouse click events are queued and the keyboard modifier state changes are > not (or are queued separately), they can get out of step. By

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-10-01 Thread Steve Simon
if you need to synchronise two streams you could timestamp them. the timestams need not be realtime they could be just an unsigned event number. applications can then match up the timestamps if they need to. i am not saying this is a perfect solution, but its an alternative approach. -Steve

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-10-01 Thread Alyssa M via 9fans
Years ago I built an Remote Procedure Call library that used 9p as the wire protocol. It handled event 'callbacks' by sending read requests to opened virtual files well ahead of time and treating the eventual Rread replies as events. As soon as it got an event it would send another Tread. Perha

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-10-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
If your inclination is to combine streams every time you need to ensure that event ordering is maintained, you could end up with a lot of streams being combined, and thus a traditional event queue. Next thing you know, you might want to be able to inject application-created events into that que

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-09-30 Thread ori
This is a problem that can happen with any keyboard input; if I press 'A' and click, this problem can also happen. Fixing this would probably need merging both event streams into one /dev/input or similar. Quoth Alyssa M via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>: > If mouse click events are queued and the keyb

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-09-30 Thread Alyssa M via 9fans
If mouse click events are queued and the keyboard modifier state changes are not (or are queued separately), they can get out of step. By the time the program receives a mouse click event, the keyboard may be unshifted again. This could happen if a program is late processing mouse input. ---

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-09-30 Thread ori
Plan 9 mouse driver would have to be updated > to treat shift-click as adding 5 to the usual button number. (That is, the > normal buttons are 0 1 2 3 4, and the shifted ones are 5 6 7 8 9.) > > https://github.com/9fans/plan9port/commit/0c79c32675e83ff3d87d5bf52082652d85486a45 That seem

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-09-30 Thread Kurt H Maier via 9fans
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 09:52:58AM -0400, Russ Cox wrote: > Hi all, > > In plan9port, back in 2020, I wrote a new parser in rc to clean up a few > things, most notably that = signs are now allowed in command arguments. > This makes rc much nicer for using programs with -foo=bar flag syntax. It > w

[9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-09-30 Thread Russ Cox
4, and the shifted ones are 5 6 7 8 9.) https://github.com/9fans/plan9port/commit/0c79c32675e83ff3d87d5bf52082652d85486a45 Best, Russ -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T1dee2a7aea3f7fa3-M8c1df39be15674b13bd6a7b6 Delivery opti

Re: [9fans] plan9port spell and dict

2022-03-11 Thread sirjofri
I ported some tools of the UNIX V10 writer's workbench. Including spell checkers, suggest, diction, gram, ... As a bonus, it includes some helpers for acme. Source is at git.sr.ht/~sirjofri/wwb9, iirc, might also be available at shithub. sirjofri -- 9

Re: [9fans] plan9port spell and dict

2022-03-11 Thread Steve Simon
my spelling is so dreadful that i need more help than just spell. i wrote suggest(1) which tries to guess what i meant to write: http://www.quintile.net/pkg/suggest.tbz this runs on vanilla plan9 so may need a little tweak for p9p. i got hold of an OED cdrom and managed to build dict for that -

[9fans] plan9port spell and dict

2022-03-11 Thread Maurizio Boriani
Hi all, I'm playing with spell and dict programs in p9p but... Which kind or where can I find dictionaries for different languages? Someone use 'em too? have a nice day, -- Maurizio Boriani PGP key: 0xCC0FBF8F -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9f

Re: [9fans] plan9port acme imageinit: can't open font

2022-03-10 Thread donk86
Hi,  acme, or libdraw is not finding your font.  What you can do is $ 9p ls font That shows  a listing of all available fonts pick one and use the -f / -F flags with a font that is listed and see what happens. This is the line that starts acme  in my riostart acme -a -f /mnt/font/'Go Regular'/1

Re: [9fans] plan9port acme imageinit: can't open font

2022-03-09 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks for the pointers. I tried them and it didn't help. I suppose I'll move on without acme. If anyone is ever interested in taking a look at this, you can see from my original post what I am running. Thanks. Blake On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 10:26 AM Lucio De Re wrote: > You nay have to dele

Re: [9fans] plan9port acme imageinit: can't open font

2022-03-03 Thread Lucio De Re
You nay have to delete the namespace in /tmp that may have been created under root's permissions. I'm guessing, but it seems the most likely culprit. That, or fontsrv, which may also have left something that only root can access. Of course, /mnt/font is a dreadful red herring. Lucio. ---

[9fans] plan9port acme imageinit: can't open font

2022-03-03 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, I am running Plan9port on Fedora 35. When I run acme as root, it runs fine. However, when I try to run it as a regular user, I get: $ acme imageinit: can't open font /mnt/font/Courier/12a/font: 0��� acme: can't open display: 0��� $ Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Blake McBr

Re: [9fans] plan9port acme and /dev/ptmx

2021-12-30 Thread Conor Williams
Yeah - sane something and the wm V.v g /c:ny22 Pr:🎈where ya gona bee On Thursday, December 30, 2021, fijal wrote: > plan9port's acme run as root (linux) seems to change permissions on > /dev/ptmx after shell window (win in acme) is opened. > Anybody met this problem? > > Cheers > fijal > *9fans

[9fans] plan9port acme and /dev/ptmx

2021-12-30 Thread fijal
plan9port's acme run as root (linux) seems to change permissions on /dev/ptmx after shell window (win in acme) is opened. Anybody met this problem? Cheers fijal -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tb0cfc870dc2fd4f5-M213c1191d

[9fans] plan9port

2021-09-23 Thread 有澤 健治
Hello 9fans. issue: 9pfuse does not try to be authenticated. the fix: replace fsmount in src/cmd/9pfuse/main.c by fsamount. how to fix: (a) we need to add     #include in src/cmd/9pfuse/a.h (b) replace     if((fsys = fsmount(fd, spec)) == nil) by     if((fsys = fsamount(fd, spec)) == nil) in s

Re: [9fans] plan9port: acme remoting

2021-01-04 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
I've always just used aan(8) + cfs(4) for this sort of situation. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T5addc17a0e19cd91-Mb3f8fff0efe927f263afe55f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] plan9port: acme remoting

2021-01-04 Thread Semyon Novikov
Same here, works flawlessly with WSL2 and VcXsrv. Also there is an option of Edwood, but it's not quite worked well for me in the past. On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, at 14:43, Pouya Tafti wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, at 12:00, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen wrote: > > Anyone got plan9port to work under Cygwin? >

Re: [9fans] plan9port: acme remoting

2021-01-04 Thread Pouya Tafti
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, at 12:00, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen wrote: > Anyone got plan9port to work under Cygwin? Never tried it on Cygwin, but I once had the misfortune of having to use Windows for work and got p9p to work on WSL w/o much trouble afaicr. -- 9fans:

Re: [9fans] plan9port: acme remoting

2021-01-04 Thread Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
Very interesting. In the past, I have resorted to using a combination of Sam/9term/plumber in similar scenarios, but I really prefer Acme. At the moment I'm running Acme over X11, since I'm constrained to using Windows on the desktop, and I've got a working X server, but no Acme on Windows. Anyone

[9fans] plan9port: acme remoting

2021-01-03 Thread marius a. eriksen
Lately, I have needed to do a great deal of my work on remote servers. It's been difficult to do this with acme. Previously, I have attempted to run acme entirely remotely, and then attach to a local devdraw instance . This works okay, but also has many dr

Re: [9fans] plan9port fossil

2020-04-04 Thread Kim Lassila
On Apr 2, 2020, at 4:23 AM, Jeremy Jackins wrote: > > I hacked it a bit to make it work for me. I don't remember if there > was a problem with the normal setup or if I just wanted different > ergonomics. Thanks to your words of encouragement I have been successfully running both venti and fossi

Re: [9fans] plan9port fossil

2020-04-02 Thread Lucio De Re
On 4/2/20, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen wrote: > I am curious about the problems you have with your Linux Mint. I presume this is in response to my own: "Nice stuff, Steven. I found my small Linuxmint workstation not up to the task, the worst symptom being that shutting venti down takes a very long ti

Re: [9fans] plan9port fossil

2020-04-02 Thread Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
I am curious about the problems you have with your Linux Mint. I have been running a relatively large (6 TB max) venti on an old Toshiba laptop with Intel core 2 processor running Bunsenlabs (Debian) the last couple of years. It was migrated from a 2 TB venti running on an old Pentium 4 box with 1

Re: [9fans] plan9port fossil

2020-03-19 Thread Kim Lassila
> On Mar 18, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Steven Stallion wrote: > > http://9p.io/sources/contrib/stallion/venti/. > > I've been using this configuration since 2013 without any data > loss/corruption that I'm aware of. Thank you Steve. Your mkventi script and the attached notes are very helpful, an

Re: [9fans] plan9port fossil

2020-03-19 Thread Lucio De Re
On 3/18/20, Steven Stallion wrote: [ ...] > > I've had a lot of luck using venti from plan9port with fossil running > natively on my plan9 fileserver. I keep a directory on sources (now > 9p.io) with some notes and example scripts on how to make this work: > http://9p.io/sources/contrib/stallion/v

Re: [9fans] plan9port fossil

2020-03-18 Thread Steven Stallion
Hi Kim, Sorry for the late response, I've been heads down the last couple of weeks and haven't been keeping an eye on 9fans. I've had a lot of luck using venti from plan9port with fossil running natively on my plan9 fileserver. I keep a directory on sources (now 9p.io) with some notes and example

[9fans] plan9port fossil

2020-03-09 Thread kim . lassila
Does anyone run fossil from plan9port? Is it stable? I am thinking of setting up a fossil + venti fileserver on Linux that Plan 9 terminals and cpu servers can connect to. Any recommendations for/against this? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topi

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-21 Thread fgergo
On 11/21/19, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:49:32 +0100 fge...@gmail.com wrote: > fge...@gmail.com writes: >> On 11/21/19, fge...@gmail.com wrote: >> > On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: >> >> "Ethan Gardener" wrote: >> >> >> >>> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am aski

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:49:32 +0100 fge...@gmail.com wrote: fge...@gmail.com writes: > On 11/21/19, fge...@gmail.com wrote: > > On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: > >> "Ethan Gardener" wrote: > >> > >>> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here. > >>> > >>> it's called plan9por

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread fgergo
On 11/21/19, fge...@gmail.com wrote: > On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: >> "Ethan Gardener" wrote: >> >>> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here. >>> >>> it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups: >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev >>

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread fgergo
On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: > "Ethan Gardener" wrote: > >> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here. >> >> it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups: >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev > > Clicking on the link tells me I don't have acc

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread arnold
"Ethan Gardener" wrote: > > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here. > > it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups: > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev Clicking on the link tells me I don't have access to the group. I reported something directly t

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread Ethan Gardener
> i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here. it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Teef4e32e6f6c10de-M1d6

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-09 Thread Darren Wise
Yeah me too, with regards to an eBay bid for an Contour mouse! Hope I win in the next few days. Devilishly stricking design, I could only find an large, right-handed model.. would have preferred a medium, right-handed but who cares as it seems to be a lovely mouse and a huge upgrade on my slopp

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-09 Thread Jeremy Jackins
This looks great, thanks for the tip. Found one on ebay for $30 (stores in Canada are selling it for CAD $120...) On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 07:37, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > > https://www.contourdesign.com/product/contour-mouse/ > > -- > Aram Hăvărneanu -- 9fans

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread James A. Robinson
Oh that's very nice, I'll have to update and try it. Thank you for pointing this out! On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:19 AM Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > > since commit 9af9ceca, the metal backend has (undocumented), > > Allow touch events to simulate mouse clicks: > three finger tap for the middle mouse

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread Xiao-Yong Jin
since commit 9af9ceca, the metal backend has (undocumented), Allow touch events to simulate mouse clicks: three finger tap for the middle mouse button; four finger tap for the 2-1 chord. In addition Ctrl/Alt/Cmd works as 1/2/3 button, so you can invoke 2-1 chord by pressing Alt and then Ct

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread James A. Robinson
I am running plan9port on my mac. I used to use acme with the https://codereview.appspot.com/6115053 patch for the trackpad on my laptop, but at some point that stopped working. I didn't care to dig into it at the time and switched to using the Alt/Cmd button modifiers. Currently since I'm not

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
https://www.contourdesign.com/product/contour-mouse/ -- Aram Hăvărneanu -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Teef4e32e6f6c10de-Mb656c0b0c50d1ac47b9c9d5a Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread Mat Kovach
- Original Message - > From: "Steve Simon" > To: 9fans@9fans.net > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 7:42:48 AM > Subject: [9fans] plan9port on osx > hi, > > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here. > > anyone using plan9port on osx?

[9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread Steve Simon
hi, i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here. anyone using plan9port on osx? if so which mouse are you using? i am fighting with a magic mouse2 which, with the addition of the magicperfs app can do both scrolling and 3 buttons. sadly the middle button support is buggy an often m

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Bakul Shah
On Oct 3, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > aram, by a complete, installable system for plan9port, i meant a > distribution running the linux kernel, bionic, plan9port, minimal xorg. > that distribution would be bootable off a usb disk and can be installed > to your harddisk like any ge

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread sl

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread hiro
feel free to build your own community based on ignoring things. there's a lot to learn from one another, and you can overcome bad emotions with long-term technical acchievements, passion and friendship.

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Steven Stallion
Communication is not a zero-sum game. Having a public mailing list is an invitation for discussion amongst likeminded individuals, not elitist fuckery. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > just add something positive then >

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
> given the attitudes that seem so prevalent these days. You are mistaken, it has always been like this. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Alexander Keller
Don't worry, these arguments happen, have happened, and will continue. Ham radio for example has the saying, "The only thing two hams can agree on is the third is a fool." The only difference is that text divorces empathy from the discussion. Best way to help, if you don't think someone's idea

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread hiro
just add something positive then

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Based on my personal observations of extermist behavior of various sort (social, technical, religious), I think we can look forward to bifurcation adinfinitum until the last man. On this subject, if someone wants to do something for his/her own pleasure and edification, I can't see what harm it ca

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Steven Stallion
I'm beginning to wonder if anyone is left that isn't part of 9front? This behavior is caustic and does nothing but continue to shrink the size of this list. At this point, I'm considering dropping off as others have given the attitudes that seem so prevalent these days. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:05

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
OH MY GOD, I installed plan9port so hard right now. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Steve Simon
good grief guys. can we all just play nice? there no need to get personal, if you don't like an idea say so an explain why. if you cannot be bothered to be grown up, then just keep quiet. -Steve

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:33:33AM +0100, Rui Carmo wrote: > > Regular aggressive is taking things outside the realm of civilised discourse, > which is easy to do behind a keyboard, since being irate at abstract things > seems to be a slippery slope when removed from regular human contact. Nah, I

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread hiro
the longer you argue here the harder it will be for you to find time to proves us all wrong.

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Iruatã Souza
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:35 AM Rui Carmo wrote: > > I’ll bite, partially because I’m used to finding resistance to exploratory > ideas and learning paths, but mostly because I find this kind of passionate, > biased argument fascinating in tech contexts... > > > On 4 Oct 2018, at 09:50, Kurt H Ma

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Rui Carmo
I’ll bite, partially because I’m used to finding resistance to exploratory ideas and learning paths, but mostly because I find this kind of passionate, biased argument fascinating in tech contexts... > On 4 Oct 2018, at 09:50, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 08:50:35AM +0100, R

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 08:50:35AM +0100, Rui Carmo wrote: > I wouldn’t allow the passive-aggressive mood that surfaces here from > time to time to turn me off the project. How about regular aggressive? Starting with "what project?" We're gonna slap down an alpine rootfs and throw plan9port in

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Rui Carmo wrote: > I wouldn’t allow the passive-aggressive mood that surfaces here from > time to time to turn me off the project. > > That said, I’m fascinated by how often (and how quickly) some threads > devolve into “there is no point in doing that” or “we d

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, at 4:44 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 11:23:45PM +0200, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > > > i had been trying to work with a collaborator to develop a complete, > > > installable system for plan9port. > > > > Plan9port is already installable. > > aram, by a com

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Rui Carmo
I wouldn’t allow the passive-aggressive mood that surfaces here from time to time to turn me off the project. That said, I’m fascinated by how often (and how quickly) some threads devolve into “there is no point in doing that” or “we don’t need those modern contraptions” arguments - reminds me

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:49 AM, wrote: > what is the point of this exercise? > To appear stupid, apparently, -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-03 Thread Iruatã Souza
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 10:15 PM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 11:49:19PM -0400, s...@9front.org wrote: > > what is the point of this exercise? > > to provide an easy to install plan9port based system. > > I suggest you check this list's archives first.

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-03 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 11:49:19PM -0400, s...@9front.org wrote: > what is the point of this exercise? to provide an easy to install plan9port based system.

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-03 Thread sl
what is the point of this exercise? sl

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-03 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 11:23:45PM +0200, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > > i had been trying to work with a collaborator to develop a complete, > > installable system for plan9port. > > Plan9port is already installable. aram, by a complete, installable system for plan9port, i meant a distribution runni

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-03 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
> i had been trying to work with a collaborator to develop a complete, > installable system for plan9port. Plan9port is already installable. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 08:10:19PM +0200, hiro wrote: > why do you use the past tense about glendix? is it finished? I have a kid in the second grade who was born after the last time anyone worked on Glendix. khm

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread hiro
why do you use the past tense about glendix? is it finished? On 10/2/18, Steve Simon wrote: > maybe this is what you meant, but the glendix project was this - > approximately. > > Steve > >> On 2 Oct 2018, at 6:22 pm, Bakul Shah wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Oct 2, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Dave MacFarlane wr

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Steve Simon
maybe this is what you meant, but the glendix project was this - approximately. Steve > On 2 Oct 2018, at 6:22 pm, Bakul Shah wrote: > > > >> On Oct 2, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Dave MacFarlane wrote: >> >> see how far you can take the per process >> namespaces of Linux >> to make it feel like Plan

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Bakul Shah
> On Oct 2, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Dave MacFarlane wrote: > > see how far you can take the per process > namespaces of Linux > to make it feel like Plan 9. (AFAIK, that wouldn't be possible with > NetBSD or FreeBSD, but > I might be mistaken..) Adding per process namespaces to *BSD would be a nont

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Dave MacFarlane wrote: > What do you mean by "a complete, installable system for plan9ports"? That's my question too! > If you mean one that uses p9p in place of gnu utils, that's something > I've thought about > trying to do before, but I'd suggest taking it one

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Iruatã Souza
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:57 AM Roderick wrote: > > > I think it is uninteresting: one can always install plan9port in a > meager installation of openbsd, freebsd or linux. > > More interesting is to have the original plan9 and perhaps a virtual > machine on it to run one of the above OS and their

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Roderick
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, hiro wrote: which plan9, did you try 9front? The original from Bell Labs. I had it installed in a very old computer, but in newer ones hopeless. Is 9front less selective? Rodrigo

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread hiro
which plan9, did you try 9front? On 10/2/18, Roderick wrote: > > I think it is uninteresting: one can always install plan9port in a > meager installation of openbsd, freebsd or linux. > > More interesting is to have the original plan9 and perhaps a virtual > machine on it to run one of the above

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Dave MacFarlane
What do you mean by "a complete, installable system for plan9ports"? If you mean one that uses p9p in place of gnu utils, that's something I've thought about trying to do before, but I'd suggest taking it one step further and seeing if you could use a 9p root filesystem and see how far you can tak

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Roderick
I think it is uninteresting: one can always install plan9port in a meager installation of openbsd, freebsd or linux. More interesting is to have the original plan9 and perhaps a virtual machine on it to run one of the above OS and their software. Unfortunately I am having problems installing p

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 02:43:51PM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: > How soon would you start needing some form of support back-up? > > It's a little random around these places, which is why promises are > hard to keep. no worries, i am thinking of sticking with linux, it's the most well supported plat

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Lucio De Re
How soon would you start needing some form of support back-up? It's a little random around these places, which is why promises are hard to keep. Lucio.

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 02:01:12PM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: > > also, if there's enough interest, would there be someone out here > > capable enough to support netbsd-amd64? > > [snip] > But I can help and I may just need a shove to get on with things. by shove, do you mean a reminder? if yes, d

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Lucio De Re
> also, if there's enough interest, would there be someone out here > capable enough to support netbsd-amd64? I haven't got around to installing p9p on my fresh NetBSD/64 system yet, for now it is just a PostgreSQL host. But I can help and I may just need a shove to get on with things. No big pr

[9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-02 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
i had been trying to work with a collaborator to develop a complete, installable system for plan9port. while initially being quite gung-ho about linux, an accidental discovery and ensuing experiements show the freebsd environment to be a lot more performant and responsive, almost as much as netbsd

Re: [9fans] plan9port-dev

2017-11-16 Thread hiro
i think they only specify few rules (apart from generally never doing what i need) like "don't be evil". OTOH "don't be an ass" seems not to be one of their concerns.

Re: [9fans] plan9port-dev

2017-11-15 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
yes, now i feel like an ass ;-)

Re: [9fans] plan9port-dev

2017-11-15 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017, David Arroyo wrote: You can subscribe to any google group without a google account, via e-mail. Just send an e-mail to plan9port-dev+subscr...@googlegroups.com and follow the instructions in the reply. David On Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:44 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Is

Re: [9fans] plan9port-dev

2017-11-15 Thread David Arroyo
You can subscribe to any google group without a google account, via e-mail. Just send an e-mail to plan9port-dev+subscr...@googlegroups.com and follow the instructions in the reply. David On Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:44 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > Is there any way to get the above "group" as a

[9fans] plan9port-dev

2017-11-15 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Is there any way to get the above "group" as a plain old mailing list. Without having to sign over my soul to google.com?

Re: [9fans] plan9port rendering garbled

2016-08-30 Thread Eris Discordia
Look into hinting and subpixel hinting modes of Freetype2. For different people different combinations of modes (full, medium, slight, none for hinting; 0/1/2 for subpixel hinting) give optimal results. Hinting is usually set via symlinks under /etc/fonts/conf.d/ to what's available under /et

[9fans] plan9port rendering garbled

2016-08-30 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Sorry to post here; I've not been able to post the issue to plan9port on github. after updating to ubuntu 16.04 (from 14.04), i see garbled fonts in sam/acme/9term, etc. it doesn't seem to matter if native or host fonts are used (via fontsrv). attached is what it looks like in acme. i've been loo

Re: [9fans] plan9port for El Capitan(10.11.3)

2016-02-22 Thread kokamoto
> That's also quite old. There's one called drawterm-elcapitan, take that or > compile from the master branch. My problem caused by the fact I launched the drawterm from Application directory by GUI, where I replaced the drawterm binary in /Applications/darwterm/Contents/MacOS by the one I compi

Re: [9fans] plan9port for El Capitan(10.11.3)

2016-02-19 Thread cinap_lenrek
with captain blaubär this wouldnt have happend. -- cinap

Re: [9fans] plan9port for El Capitan(10.11.3)

2016-02-19 Thread kokamoto
> drawterm.bz2 2015-04-07 207.6kb 297.6kb sorry. Kenji

Re: [9fans] plan9port for El Capitan(10.11.3)

2016-02-19 Thread kokamoto
> As for drawterm-cocoa: Sure you're using the newest version? Sounds like the > old one, which was very broken indeed. I downloaded source file fron bitbucket named as drawterm.bz2 2015-04-07 207.6kb Kenji

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