was a couple of hours work given i didn’t
know the code structure to start with.
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i used foils, a venerable package for plan9 presentations:
http://www.quintile.net/pkg/foils.tbz
i rather liked the look but perhaps it is not to your taste:
http://www.quintile.net/papers/9win-foils.pdf
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do you have ethernet on your embedded systems? i did embedded development using plan9 as my desktop for years. being able to mount the embedded system is a great thing.i just compiled u9fs for the embedded system and it just worked.at one point we had a multiplexed terminal and file sharing interfa
i haven’t tried this but i suspect you can put a single quote in by doubling it.
e.g.
data_matches ‘[abc’’]def’
which should match any of
adef
bdef
cdef
‘def
one of the many wonderful things about plan9 is its uniform escaping and regex
rules
-Steve
24th, 2025 at 5:04 PM, Bakul Shah via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
I see go1.23.5.plan9-{386,amd64,arm}.tar.gz on go.dev/dl/. Presumably you can cross-build for arm64?See also this long thread: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/57540 On Jan 24, 2025, at 12:23 AM, Steve Simon
hi,
does the go compiler and runtime work on 9front, specificly, does it work on
the raspberry pi?
thanks,
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we could call it 9news :-)
> On 18 Jan 2025, at 11:58 am, Bakul Shah via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>
> Random thought:
> May be this can be extended/evolved into a "displayPDF kernel", which
> can open up other uses such as a GUI, a better windowing system etc.
>
> I'm sure you guys must
idea
-Steve
> On 18 Jan 2025, at 5:07 am, Noam Preil wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Provide a trivial on-ramp to Plan9.
>> Your ideas here (yes, that means you).
>
> One idea i've flirted with, if only for my own use, is to just add some
> tools - similar to 9f
i can confirm vic is human and predates LLMs by many years. he has been a
contributor to plan9 for as long as i can remember.
people, be kind.
-Steve
> On 7 Oct 2024, at 5:10 am, vester.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
>
> No need for a DeLorean, Eli. This fits perfectly on
if you need to synchronise two streams you could timestamp them.
the timestams need not be realtime they could be just an unsigned event number.
applications can then match up the timestamps if they need to.
i am not saying this is a perfect solution, but its an alternative approach.
-Steve
, but i don’t think
it fledged.
these days go would be a better target imho.
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can you give some examples of where this new api would be used?
nemo added a readfile and (i think) writefile message in his fork. that was
aimed at transferring large sequential files from a fileserver.
there was also many discussions of doing parallel or chained reads to improve
9p performa
charles, but i couldn't get it to perform anything like how wired ether.
having said this things may well have changed, this was about 3 years ago.
-Steve
> On 8 Aug 2024, at 9:27 pm, adventures in9 wrote:
>
> Miller's pi code does have a basic spi driver. A 9front one is
fwiw. i am pretty sure there was a plan9 raspberry pi spi driver, though this was for richard millers package - it may not (yet) be ported to 9front.i cannot remember if it was Richard's code or someone else's. check the 9fans archives -generally a good idea for any plan9 related questions.-SteveOn
from the same time.
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i am happy for you to use the same license :-)
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> On 25 Jul 2024, at 9:26 pm, sirjofri wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 25.07.2024 20:12:03 Steve simon :
>> I am fairly sure the libxml in 9front was from me.
>
> I guess you mean 9atom
sorry, i meantIndex of /quintile.net/pkgquintile.net-SteveOn 25 Jul 2024, at 7:11 pm, Steve simon wrote:I am fairly sure the libxml in 9front was from me.My last code is at http://www.quintile.net/magic/webls?dir=/quintile.netI packaged them as libxml.tbz and xml.cmds.tbzIt contains an (optional
matching json parser and command and a webdavfs which uses the
xml code which might be of interest.
I hereby license 9front to take and use any parts of this as long as I continue
get some credit for my work,
and if you make huge profits from this code, you owe me "some beer"
case…
so far so good.
-Steve
> On 29 May 2024, at 4:39 am, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
>
> Finally,. SSDs just die over time. Especially if they are
> not powered on and refreshing. JEDEC specs say that they
> should retain data for 1 year unplugged when stored at 30
> degrees
i got very suspicious at the mention of a procinfo syscall - unlikely in plan9,
and i couldn't imagine a use for such a thing given we have /proc already.
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i read the paper.
i can believe there are still bugs, truth be told there are bugs in most
software. all i can say is in my experience i have not hit any since the
ephemeral snapshot fix. Honestly fosdil has been solid for me; i hope i have
not just jinx’ed it :-)
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things the
community does not wish to support.
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coraid has an interesting history.How Silicon Valley can kill your business, by a man scolded by the machineinformation-age.comBrantley now has the Coraid name back too and is using plan9 to this day.-SteveOn 14 May 2024, at 5:39 pm, arn...@skeeve.com wrote:"B. Atticus Grobe" wrote:As for compani
w this is not really a VCS but the ability to get back to an atomic set of
files representing a release would help a lot IMHO.
-Steve
> On 18 Apr 2024, at 21:41, Dan Cross wrote:
>
> Jujitsu
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though I don't know what blocksize it uses offhand.
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> On 1 Mar 2024, at 09:39, Lucio De Re wrote:
>
> Increasing the dd block size (-bs 1024k or as big as the man pages
> allow) could make a big difference.
>
>
> On 3/1/24, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote:
&
very fine carving :-)-SteveOn 1 Nov 2023, at 5:51 am, fig wrote:glenda would’ve been way too hard to carve. plus the knife i had could barely have cut butter it was so dull.
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hi don,
yes it it. 9 legacy is the replacement for the labs sources repository in real
terms.
it is courteous to cross publish patch descriptions to 9front of course.
sadly i have become all but inactive on plan9 these days, but hope i might get
back to it.
-Steve
> On 4 Sep 2023, at 3
trycat /dev/kmesgorcat /dev/kprintOn 31 Aug 2023, at 4:44 pm, dusan3...@gmail.com wrote:
I was editing plan9's realtime scheduler in /sys/src/9/port/edf.c and was trying to add a print to log something, but print didn't show anywhere(or I am looking at the wrong place). It has some prints in sourc
think vaxes where becoming rather passé by the time plan9 was born.
-Steve
> On 28 Aug 2023, at 7:21 pm, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 12:32:55PM +, G B via 9fans wrote:
>> Windows and Linux began on single-core sing
ges to multicore
architectures.
one of the 1st edition’s target hosts where sgi numa machines (challenge 2s i
think)
what i am saying is the plan9 kernel supported multiple processors from the
very early days.
i wonder if the lost vax kernel supported multiple cpu's (or maybe is was
://9p.io/sources/contrib/steve/doc/Venti-rescue.pdf this describes how
they fit together. note this was more about rebuilding after a disc failure
than installation but it might help.
-Steve
> On 18 Aug 2023, at 11:51 am, Marco Feichtinger wrote:
>
> I have a standalone venti,
are you running the tftp server?
> On 17 Jul 2023, at 4:38 pm, Marco Feichtinger wrote:
>
> I have a standalone file server, and a separate standalone auth server.
>
> I tried to pxe boot a cpu server.
> It gets the /386/9boot to load fine, but then it seems, that it can’t
> retrieve the fil
9660srv - it mounts an iso as 9p file server in /srv/9660, so you need to do a mount(1) to actually see the contents.-SteveOn 7 Jul 2023, at 7:20 pm, Conor Williams wrote:ok... thank you Steve, well in...that particular train of thought leads me to another question...has you r a'yo
not quite sure i understand what you are asking, but perhaps ns(1) will show you what you want.-SteveOn 7 Jul 2023, at 6:59 pm, Conor Williams wrote:hello 9fannors...i wish to find the device? which the p9 iso file is mounted from...(a vm boot (i dont think that matters though...)e.g c drive is /
was this hard to reproduce?i have not seen fossil deadlocking and have used it since i installed my first home server in 2004.there definitely _was_ a problem in the snapshot code which was finally resolved around 2015 (roughly), i think perhaps skip, or forsyth found it - i apologise if i have the
seconded, excellent work all.
i would like to buy the proceedings if they are going to be available as a
bound volume.
-Steve
> On 14 Mar 2023, at 4:52 am, Lucio De Re wrote:
>
> Too far for me to travel, but there is a lot in the list I will be
> extremely sorry to miss.
>
i think you may not have created your mailbox. every user needs to create their own mailbox with “mail -c”.cron similarly with cron -cthis is usually done by the script /sys/lib/newuser which also creates your $home/lib/profile and some other bits.this needs to be done only once per user.-SteveOn 1
https://9p.io/sources/contrib/stallion/src/collectd/
>
> Usage is fairly straightforward, but I have not yet had a chance to
> write a man page. If others are interested, I can also put a contrib
> package together as well.
>
> Include: /tmp/screenshot.png
>
> Ch
://www.quintile.net/magic/webls?dir=/quintile.net/pkg
9win.tbz
These days I work on a Mac so plan9ports does all I need, and sadly I hardly
ever touch real plan9 any more :-(
-Steve
> I think there are two ports of plan 9 utilities to windows, one of them
> includes old (2nd ed?), and
apologies for completely missing the point,
note to self: coffee first, then reply to mailing lists
-Steve
> On 6 Oct 2022, at 11:21, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>
>
> If you look at plan9port (eg, https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/), you'll see
> how that's don
enviroment which you can run ape/psh.
this is a subshell which modifies your search path to pick up some different
commands.
there is a paper in /sys/doc which describes ape more throughly.
-Steve
> On 6 Oct 2022, at 01:16, _ resun wrote:
>
>
> Hi there!
>
> Is there any way
thought the idea had legs.
-Steve
> On 1 Jun 2022, at 4:56 pm, Jacob Moody wrote:
>
> hjfs is not exactly known for it's speed[0]. Running a cwfs
> without a worm[1] is likely a more interesting comparison.
>
> I also would recommend using kvik's clone[2] for copyi
ntohl in libc?
say its not so?
-Steve
> On 13 May 2022, at 10:23 pm, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
>
> Quoth adr :
>> so I imagined that some functions
>> or macros could be defined already somewhere.
>
> They exist in fcall.h -- see GBIT/PBIT macros.
>
> I wou
or two if i have any patches to contribute.
-Steve
> On 10 Apr 2022, at 1:15 pm, Tomás S. Javaloyes wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for the information.
>
> You are absolutely right: the documentation offered in /sys/doc offers
> a lot of useful information to understa
- i can dig out
the tools i used/wrote but the cd is copyrighted i am afraid.
-Steve
> On 11 Mar 2022, at 11:40 am, Maurizio Boriani wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
> I'm playing with spell and dict programs in p9p but... Which kind or
> where can I find dictionaries
leave it at that.
can we not keep 9fans supportive?
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still the best
I have found.
Google will find them quite easily.
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i suggest first you check your facts carefully before publicly accusing anyone
of anything.
throwing unchecked accusations around is a good way to start an angry mob, and
we all know how inclusive those tend to be.
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for abaco
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li looks like you are not running ndb/dns.
you need to start this before webfs, and then start abaco after that.
sadly the web has moved on a but since abaco was written - it used to render
most pages quite well. These days its lack of javascript is more and more of a
problem.
-Steve
On 17
thought experiment:
imagine someone was commenting on the 9front mailing list how 9front was not
worth bothering with and how the OP should use OSX. that would make the 9front
people a little frustrated.
> i don't know what aspect exactly of
> "classic" computing motivates you
> to recommend
i would use ,|spell which replaces the current window with sam’s output, then,
having taken note of the errors, type u to undo and fix the mistakes.
this is just personal choice of course.
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pretty much the only major change to sam since 87 was (i believe) the
migration from ASCII (on Unix v10 and p9 Ed1) to utf-8.
if you are not seeing unicode characters it is most probably because you don’t
have a font with the appropriate glyphs.
-Steve
mac and vnc from the mac does not work as well. thankfully
p9p makes life bearable but i feel dishonest.
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documentation, the best info is a very simple
example client, but even that has bugs it seems.
i even considered writing a new plan9 specific protocol but that would mean
delving into the internals of osx to hook it in…
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i will bite
i tried and faild to get cinap’s historic synergy client to work with a current
synergy server on windows/linux/osx etc.
the biggest pain is the wireshark disector is buggy and there is no real
documentation for the protocol.
not really selling it am i?
-Steve
through.
i used it when i worked supporting solaris, it allowed me to find error
messages and functions anywhere in the sourcecode quickly.
i haven't run it in years but maybe it is of use to someone.
http://www.quintile.net/pkg/xid.tbz
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properly
and nfs would fault.
i never managed to get to the bittom of it and just used cifs(4) instead.
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hi,
i suspect rob or ken would be the ones to ask, maybe something to do with some
private flight planning or astronomy tool?
-Steve
On 27 Jul 2021, at 7:13 pm, Dan Cross wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 1:53 PM Anthony Sorace wrote:
> There are a few other things which also use that f
but i never got round to it - what i have
just works.
my current employer uses Macs rather than windows so this has fallen into
disuse.
i am happy to share if anyone has a use for it.
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was no graphics support in cpu kernels for example.
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ront with a few small changes
> for different kernal interfaces, I checked it was in sync a few months ago
> and expect it still is.
>
> I am afriad my progress stalled there.
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hi Brian,
pi4 ether worked out of the box for me with richards kernel, i am running a
kernel from Christmas.
sadly i have had problems with usb3 which is on my todo list - usb2 devices
work fine as do usb3 devices in usb2 sockets.
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is there an email address to contact p9f directly?
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and a successful project.
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, and if that
fails, returns the dns name it was given. i guess this is to allow name
resolution to be tried at the remote host.
i shall experiment a bit more.
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convince go to use plan9’s own name resolution?
can ssh (and thus sshnet) forward udp or is that not possible?
thanks for any ideas
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I don't believe a 68000 compiler was ever released by the labs but there
may have been one - some blit terminals had 68000s (and maybe gnots?) so
its plausable.
There was a port of the plan9 compilers to the VAX but I think its
sourcecode was lost (jmk found an executable some years).
-
> How do we get involved in or become a member of the foundation?
I too am interested in supporting plan9 in any form I can.
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hi,
anyone any ideas how to inform tbl that i am using wide paper - well A4
landscape.
i have tried .pl and the LL number register which tells the ms macros but tbl
does’t appear to pick up this info.
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there was a native plan9 dis interpreter that would run simple command line
applications. on Andrey’s website i think.
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On 8 Feb 2021, at 8:49 pm, cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wrote:
"Ethan Gardener" writes:
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, at 7:16 AM, cigar562hfsp952f...@
someone at the land (peter bosch?) dis a haupage video capture card.
i am pretty sure i have a copy of the driver and user level app somewhere.
this worked on an old pci card i had at one time.
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On 1 Feb 2021, at 8:32 pm, cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wrote:
Anthony Sorace
neighbours on the 2.4ghz band. 5ghz on the other hand looks fairly free.
on the same topic - is 5ghz supported on the pi4 ?
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maybe i have missed something but i don’t think u9fs changed much.
i added a fix, years ago, adding frogs for some of the weird stuff osx does to
filenames.
in my world it has been completely replaced by sshfs.
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->server: Tversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000'
<-server: Rversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000'
->client: Rversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000'
<-client: Tauth tag 13 afid 402 uname steve aname
->
MacOS.
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ev/secstore.
I did't write this code put found it on the net (kudos to the original author).
it means you can start drawterm with a just a click linux/osx/windows click
and secstore password.
It is less secure, but I am using this at home only.
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Is this by design? is there a reason for not binding in my factotum when I
cpu(1)
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...
having said this, i am in the uk and postage to the usa is extortionate, so if
you need it sent there i may want a contribution to postage.
please make use of it, i never did.
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e sam, and scroll windows
(with the 9front changes).
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/404785639.html
-Steve
> On 27 Nov 2020, at 11:04 pm, Kurt H Maier wrote:
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> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 06:02:13PM -0500, fi...@lojanci.org wrote:
>> Anybody has tried Unimouse on plan9port/li
finally running vacfs
what I would like is a vacfs like tool that can read the arenas, build the
index in RAM and provide a 9p interface.
any chance?
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submitted pull requests on github for these changes.
-Steve
> On 19 Nov 2020, at 2:59 pm, sirjofri wrote:
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> Hello,
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> I'm not on OSX, but:
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> 19.11.2020 12:40:00 Steve Simon :
>> there is no /mnt/term/dev/secstore device containing my secstore when i
> a
authenticated to drawterm, so i need to authenticate to secstore again in my
profile which is irritating. this may be by design as having drawterm know. all
my secrets feels a bit foolish.
it idefinitely feels much snappier than the old drawterm.
thanks
-Steve
> On 19 Nov 2020, at 11:25 am, Dan
cycle, and fshalt -r can leave it wedged, again needing a
power cycle.
-Steve
> On 19 Nov 2020, at 12:16 am, Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote:
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> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:18 PM Anthony Sorace wrote:
>>> Richard asked:
> ...
>> Is this lightning bolt a hardware feature?
.
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> The pi4 is very sensitive to power supply voltage.
absolutely,
i had loads of problems with a lowly pi3+ until i tried an old ipad charger
(2.5A i think), it has been stable since.
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import the PEM
certificate (profile as apple calls it) into my phone.
What have I missed? why can't tlssrv find my key in my factotum?
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i still use the labs dns server and have no problems, but my configuration is
quite straightforward.
sorry not to be more help.
-Steve
> On 7 Oct 2020, at 6:08 am, Lucio De Re wrote:
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> It would take me a long time to get to grips with the Plan 9 DNS
> server (believe me, I&#
Oh hell, Andrey was a great guy, we had some long chats on IRC back in the day.
I regret losing contact in recent years.
All my best to his family.
-Steve
> On 28 Sep 2020, at 9:39 pm, Don Bailey wrote:
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fwiw i run something approximating 9legacy -the labs kernel with some patches.
i run 9front’s webfs. it it better in every way.
-Steve
> On 10 Feb 2020, at 1:49 pm, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
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>>
>>
>> due to popular demand (...and my own need), I got arou
labs boot procedure of course.
9front booting uses a full kernel to bootstrap (correct me if i am wrong) so
tls is not a problem there.
anyway, fossil does not have tls and i would like to have. such a change would
mean changes to the labs distro boot proceedure
-Steve
> On 11 Jan 2020, at
fyi i have been running a fossil/venti pair since 2004 and it has been solid.
what is too big - honest question.
i thought the biggest issues are:
performance - the elegance and generality sacrifice some performance, though
this is not a problem for me.
lack of a tls fs interface - there is
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