Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 8/4/24 14:32, Kurt H Maier via 9fans wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 02:27:58PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote: From a newcomer's perspective, it feels like dealing with a cult run by scam artists. It seems someone wants to profit from me by selling books on Amazon, like a mult

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

2024-05-15 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ith them, and now that I'm searching for a new job that's even more interesting for me personally. (Not sure if I want to do plan 9 as $dayjob, but I could see it as an option.) That topic should end up in a new thread however (or even a DM). sirjofri -- *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

2024-05-14 Thread Wes Kussmaul
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Re: [9fans] licence question

2022-02-02 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 2/1/22 17:47, hiro wrote: I believe that David is right that it was a combination of running on really low-end hardware (in the early days, Torvalds accepted patches for just about anything), and a similarly low barrier to entry (others elsewhere have quipped about having to appease, "the Go

Re: [9fans] licence question

2022-01-29 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 1/29/22 08:03, ibrahim via 9fans wrote: On Friday, 28 January 2022, at 10:59 PM, hiro wrote: why should it be closed source? you're gonna seriously put the effort to remove all the traces of source files? I am consequently avoiding infecting licenses in my projects and my distributions f

Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation

2022-01-27 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 1/27/22 16:02, hiro wrote: the majority of "hackers" have already failed to be political, when they sold their souls to the big corps like google and amazon. You mean like https://silibandia.com? *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable Identities, Inc.* an Authenticity Enterprise 738 M

[9fans] War And Peace

2022-01-25 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Renaming this thread. On 1/25/22 14:44, Clout Tolstoy wrote: It's actually Mr. Tolstoy. Mr. Clout Tolstoy, and to be frank if you're not useful or have interest in helping, why waste your time? I have interest in helping if I can. -- 9fans: 9fans

Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation

2022-01-25 Thread Wes Kussmaul
the social justice warrior. There will always be unhappy people who have a need to spread their unhappiness. Sorry Rux Cox, last reply. excellent. thanks for leaving after all. +1 -- *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable Identities, Inc.* an Authenticity Enterprise 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 USA

Re: [9fans] p9f mention of 9front

2021-06-25 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 6/24/21 7:29 PM, silas poulson wrote: What’s Dorren continent referencing? There are three continents in the digital world * Montaigne * Dorren * Glenda On the Montaigne continent, everything is done outdoors on the old information highway using these strange billboards called websit

Re: [9fans] p9f mention of 9front

2021-06-24 Thread Wes Kussmaul
All versions of Plan9, Inferno, derivatives, forks, et al are welcome on the Glenda continent. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T523d6e906a17a7cc-Ma32a526a9ee3953b55afcc24 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.c

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
rote: the only "knowledge" is a screenshot of some headline of some article on wired.com and not even a link to or summary of the article. the rest below is spam spam and more spam. On 3/26/21, Wes Kussmaul wrote: On 3/26/21 12:12 PM, hiro wrote: While I don't know the details of your

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
how it's bigger than technology, and how to deploy it so that it delivers what it's supposed to. We've been working for years on ways to shorten that story. I have to agree, it would be wonderful to be able to get to the point more quickly. -- *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable Ide

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 3/26/21 12:18 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:20:44AM -0400, Wes Kussmaul wrote: The replacement of legacy BIOS with UEFI had two consequences: 1. Dual booting is not possible This is false. Dual-booting works just fine with UEFI; tools like efibootmgr make it

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
really do need to know about the hazards that were inadvertently introduced with UEFI. Some systems use Ron Minnich's Coreboot, an excellent alternative. -- *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable Identities, Inc.* an Authenticity Enterprise 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 USA t: +1 781 790 1674 m:

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ached  Please let me know if this resolves your question. Imagine being that support rep and having to sign off all messages with that last line. -- *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable Identities, Inc.* an Authenticity Enterprise 738

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation

2021-02-10 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 2/10/21 12:17 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:40:18PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote: More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/. "That effort stalled, mainly due to the treatment of software-focused non-profit organizations under U.S. regulations at th

Re: [9fans] Re: Flakey DNS server

2020-10-27 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 10/26/20 8:39 PM, Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote: I believe the issue here is that some people have interpreted your osmio.ch suggestion as a solution to Lucio's DNS issues. Apologies for my part in the confusion. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fa

Re: [9fans] Re: Flakey DNS server

2020-10-25 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 10/25/20 3:28 PM, hiro wrote: On 10/25/20, Wes Kussmaul wrote: That's strange. What happens when you click? Try optimocracy.org is it coincidence that the IP this points to also hosts kussmaul.net and assfag.com ? Ugh. Not a coincidence, a mistake. We use three hosting ser

Re: [9fans] Re: Flakey DNS server

2020-10-25 Thread Wes Kussmaul
lt;https://icmconference.org/?session=measuring-the-reliability-of-an-identity-claim-g13c> has been rescheduled to September 16. *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable Identities, Inc.* an Authenticity Enterprise 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 USA t: +1 781 790 1674 m: +1 781 330 1881 e: w...@reliableid.co

Re: [9fans] Re: Flakey DNS server

2020-10-25 Thread Wes Kussmaul
https://www.osmio.ch/about-optimocracy.html On 10/25/20 2:32 PM, hiro wrote: i do not find. i looked into it, i guess my dictionaries have not been updated with your insight. On 10/25/20, Wes Kussmaul wrote: Look into it. You'll find that optimocracy has built-in methods that ma

Re: [9fans] Re: Flakey DNS server

2020-10-25 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Look into it. You'll find that optimocracy has built-in methods that make it difficult to influence things that way. See "Governance" at osmio.ch. On 10/25/20 9:33 AM, hiro wrote: participatory as in big cases of cash money -- *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable Identities, Inc.*

Re: [9fans] Re: Flakey DNS server

2020-10-24 Thread Wes Kussmaul
for several TV series) On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 11:23 PM <mailto:cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org>> wrote: Wes Kussmaul writes: > On 10/7/20 12:08 AM, Lucio De Re wrote: >> my situation is getting >> more difficult as norms on the Internet are being bent b

Re: [9fans] Flakey DNS server

2020-10-08 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 10/7/20 8:59 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: I'm curious as to why you would say that. Well, the section of the site that describes how to best operate a plan 9 dns server seems to have gone offline. I think you have it confused with some other site. --

Re: [9fans] Flakey DNS server

2020-10-07 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 10/7/20 12:14 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 09:15:01AM -0400, Wes Kussmaul wrote: I suggest taking a look at https://www.osmio.ch/ I suggest not looking at https://www.osmio.ch/ instead. khm I'm curious as to why you would say that.

Re: [9fans] Flakey DNS server

2020-10-07 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 10/7/20 12:08 AM, Lucio De Re wrote: my situation is getting more difficult as norms on the Internet are being bent by service provider that care for their profitability much more than for interoperation I suggest taking a look at https://www.osmio.ch/ -- *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 in Brazil

2020-08-29 Thread Wes Kussmaul
. (Or read my books... :)) Please note that my presentation at the International Cryptographic Module Conference ICMC 2020 <https://icmconference.org/?session=measuring-the-reliability-of-an-identity-claim-g13c> has been rescheduled to September 16. *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable Identities, In

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 in Brazil

2020-08-29 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ility-of-an-identity-claim-g13c> has been rescheduled to September 16. *Wes Kussmaul* *Reliable Identities, Inc.* an Authenticity Enterprise 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 USA t: +1 781 790 1674 m: +1 781 330 1881 e: w...@reliableid.com <mailto:w...@reliableid.com> Learn About A

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-21 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 11/21/2016 03:46 AM, Sigrid Haflinadóttir wrote: Very kind! Where can I download your Plan 9 git client? I'm afraid mine is something of a "stone soup" offering. Perhaps someone can add value to the soup by providing a client. -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticit

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-20 Thread Wes Kussmaul
fact while I was thinking about it I just did. It's at https://gitlab.com/nine-continent -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticity Institute 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 office +1 781 790 1674 mobile +1 781 330 1881 THIS COMMUNICATION IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE PERSON TO WHOM IT IS

Re: [9fans] problem with acme on 9front

2016-05-20 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ast cookie but in this case I bought the last one. -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticity Institute 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 office +1 781 790 1674 mobile +1 781 330 1881 THIS COMMUNICATION IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE PERSON TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. If it was addressed incorrectly t

Re: [9fans] OT: Ubiquitous data vs. Reality, WAS: Re: The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-03 Thread Wes Kussmaul
acerbated by earlier pronouncements about doing no evil.” Wes Kussmaul, author of Escape The Plantation, noted that the data mines have much in common with plantations during the era of slavery. “In the information age, ownership of information about you, your relationships and habits and affiliat

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-01 Thread Wes Kussmaul
low me to share (against my better judgement) a prototype site for builders of the "After The Web" social networking industry: http://global-villages.com/ -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticity Institute 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 office +1 781 790 1674 mobile +1 781 330 1881 THIS

Re: [9fans] rc exec error behaviour

2016-02-02 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Are you all saying that Go does not work on Plan 9 legacy and that all my code is just faking it? I know Go is broken in my 9vx installation, but that could be really hard to fix. Took a while last time and would have taken much, much longer without h

Re: [9fans] off topic - free signed SSL/TLS certs

2015-11-05 Thread Wes Kussmaul
imperfect, I am new to this game. -Steve -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticity Institute 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 office +1 781 790 1674 mobile +1 781 330 1881 THIS COMMUNICATION IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE PERSON TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. If it was addressed incorrectly there

Re: [9fans] 9P Cloud™

2015-07-07 Thread Wes Kussmaul
re on this list. It should be a source of pride for the Plan 9 community, Go Authors and other open source projects (Skeleton, Font-Awesome, Google Fonts). Thank you all for your creations. -Skip Introduction to 9P Cloud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCBsyrFFGH0 -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticit

Re: [9fans] thank you

2015-06-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
great. I am so happy having a good platform for running it and experimenting with it. Thank you so much. -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticity Institute 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 office +1 781 790 1674 mobile +1 781 330 1881 THIS COMMUNICATION IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE PERSON TO

Re: [9fans] Debian bug 737206 - rc shell uses insecurely /tmp

2014-12-06 Thread Wes Kussmaul
will get fixed. -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticity Institute 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 office +1 781 790 1674 mobile +1 781 330 1881 “Try this fruit, and by the way if a bunch of people collectively calling themselves Arthur Andersen signs something it’s the same as if a person named A

Re: [9fans] 9 Atom - installation troubles

2014-12-05 Thread Wes Kussmaul
xScan Email Security System. - I'll ask Snowden next time I see him. -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticity Institute 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 office +1 781 790 1674 mobile +1 781 330 1881 “Try this fruit,

Re: [9fans] Factotum vs SASL

2014-12-02 Thread Wes Kussmaul
is entirely in keeping with it. -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticity Institute “Try this fruit, and by the way if a bunch of people collectively calling themselves Arthur Andersen signs something it’s the same as if a person named Arthur Andersen signed it.” - The Serpent

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Oh, I knew that... :( :( :( On 10/14/2014 04:03 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: Wes, i was being sarcastic in my reply to the suggestion that iCloud (or any iSplat) products should be emulated on Plan 9. -Skip On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Wes Kussmaul <mailto:w...@reliableid.

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erface that has been asleep for the past decade." patches welcome -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticity Institute 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 office +1 781 790 1674 mobile +1 781 330 1881 “Try this fruit, and by the way if a bunch of people collecti

Re: [9fans] these are release of 9front?

2013-01-08 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 07:48 -0600, s...@9front.org wrote: > > There are plenty of things in Plan 9 still in need of improvement > > or even rewriting. That's why it makes me sad to see our small > > community being made even smaller when some of the most skilled > > programmers direct their effort

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-21 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 13:34 -0600, Jeff Sickel wrote: > On this continent anything beyond the date of expiration is > considered old. The typical date of expiration of a house is > 30yrs (conveniently in line with the typical mortgage on a > new construction). Our neighbor's house in New Castle,

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-20 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:07 +0100, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > Do you mean that C++ is irony because of the discrepancy between what > you wrote and what you get? Yeah, that and the fact that the comment was made by someone (me) who has not a clue about C++

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-20 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 21:08 -0500, Matthew Veety wrote: > How do you studiously not do something? Doesn't the imply working > hard at something? Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)[1] is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or situation

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-16 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 08:44 +, opryy...@gmail.com wrote: > Another neat comparison of 44 tiny devices: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4035896/a320_downloads/SBC_comparison44.pdf No mention of the $16 Teensy? http://www.pjrc.com/ ...or the Arduino?

Re: [9fans] Mini PCs

2012-06-12 Thread Wes Kussmaul
> http://xkcd.com/731/ When you send an xkcd link to a large list, you make a dent in the world's productivity. You can't look at just one.

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-31 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 07:39 -0700, David Leimbach wrote: > I vote we call it "Kevin" as a result. Sell the naming rights!

Re: [9fans] Fwd: Call for Papers: LASER 2012—Learning from Authoritative Security Experiment Results

2012-01-11 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 22:19 -0800, ron minnich wrote: > This is kind of a fun one: stuff that DID NOT work. I like the basic > idea ... > “failures” may actually provide clues to even more significant > results than the original experimenter had intended. The research is > useful, even though th

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-11-10 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ked it in your country on copyright grounds. Sorry about that." While we're here, I meant to mention that the Wall Street Journal article about his life prominently mentioned Plan 9. Wes Kussmaul

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-11-10 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ked it in your country on copyright grounds. Sorry about that." While we're here, I meant to mention that the Wall Street Journal article about his life prominently mentioned Plan 9. Wes Kussmaul

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 15:30 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu Oct 13 13:23:01 EDT 2011, virik...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 07:19:59PM +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > > And it's a chance that there is no Nobel for mathematics or computer > > > science: no need to be des

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Wes Kussmaul
our. Just a working recreation of Colossus, as if that might interest anyone :( And that group has to pass the hat to visitors because they don't share in Bletchley's funding! Wes Kussmaul

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-10 Thread Wes Kussmaul
even though you know you can do it 5x better and faster than the people you delegate to. And look at it this way: delegation helps the economy by employing people and selling processors and memory :-) Wes Kussmaul On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 15:51 +0200, simon softnet wrote: > It's not necessar

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 09:29 -0700, ron minnich wrote: > If I can figure out where to plug in an SD card -- it claims to > have one! -- I might just give that a go. The MicroSD slot in my Droid X is hidden under the battery fwiw.

Re: [9fans] simple venti demo:

2011-08-12 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 12:18 -0400, Russ Cox wrote: > i call this 'ventino'. Shouldn't it be 'ventina'? Venti seems feminine.

Re: [9fans] interesting(?) widgets idea

2011-07-15 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 21:34 +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > > > if the user hovers mouse over widget area, it would be understood as > intention to activate widgets, > > > > eeek! > Am I the only one who doesn't like this idea? > You're definitely not the only one. OK, devil's advocacy h

Re: [9fans] interesting(?) widgets idea

2011-07-13 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 08:43 -0500, Jack Norton wrote: > dexen deVries wrote: > >... > > in other words, all the widgets (menus included) of an app turned into > > margins when mouse's /not/ over those widgets. > > > > eeek! > Am I the only one who doesn't like this idea? I cannot stand programs

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 10:13 -0700, paul.a.lalo...@gmail.com wrote: > you'll almost certainly be pessimizing your code. Proving again that any word can be verbed.

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-13 Thread Wes Kussmaul
I'm really sorry I started this. On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 01:40 -0700, Akshat Kumar wrote: > http://www.schubart.net/archives/2004/01/31/worlds-most-expensive-apple-juice > > Go a tad less and you can get > the unfermented kind - though > not grape. > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:27 AM, andrey mir

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-12 Thread Wes Kussmaul
atched over by a dude who knows how to utter the word "tannins" with just the right nasality and who knows how to deflect questions about blind tasting without seeming evasive. There is much skill in that; such skill is not cheap. > > On 5/9/11, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > > On

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-12 Thread Wes Kussmaul
I tried to clarify that but my reply never appeared. On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 07:47 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: > On May 10, 2011, at 2:34 AM, hiro wrote: > > > 20$ for a juice? I thought the dollar was already pretty high these > > days? Seldom do I say this phrase but what the fuck! > > He's tal

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-09 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 18:54 +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > Just look for the origin: the verb is "sophistiquer"... The usage and > the dictionnaries are inconsistant, since "sophistiqué" (now used non > pejoratively) is the past participle of "sophistiquer" that is > definitively pejorative

Re: [9fans] mark shaney again...

2011-03-25 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 20:16 +, Steve Simon wrote: > Fake Tweets by 'Socialbot' Fool Hundreds of Followers, > New Scientist, (03/24/11), Jim Giles http://captology.stanford.edu/

Re: [9fans] self modifying code in intel vga bios?

2011-03-08 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 19:34 +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: > Put Nokia in > bed with Microsoft in bed with Intel and you're leaving little room > for somebody with a great idea to get any attention. A brave new > world, indeed. But the Wintel duopoly has cracked, the inevitable fate of all such aggre

Re: [9fans] xml

2010-06-30 Thread Wes Kussmaul
If you gathered up a bunch of old, proven data representation methods, packaged it as XML 2.0, formed an XML 2.0 consortium and put it out there energetically with bullet points and with a straight face, people would buy it. No, listen, it's true, they would. The straight face part is import

Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement

2010-06-30 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: also, an atm card is a 2-factor authentication scheme. and you get 3 guesses. assuming you can steal the card Assuming you are a member of the main source of Net fraud, that is, a customer of one of the botnet builders doing 30 thousand victims at a time from your com

Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement

2010-06-29 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Devon H. O'Dell wrote: 2010/6/29 erik quanstrom : I don't understand why modern security systems have an upper limit on passphrase length. Because people can't remember passwords, and companies don't like employing full-time password changers. i don't understand this commen

Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement

2010-06-29 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Devon H. O'Dell wrote: 2010/6/29 Wes Kussmaul : Stanley Lieber wrote: Anywhere legitimate identification is used, legitimate identification can be purchased. There are imperfect but very good ways to protect against that vulnerability. They vary with the needs (and budget

Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement

2010-06-29 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Stanley Lieber wrote: Anywhere legitimate identification is used, legitimate identification can be purchased. There are imperfect but very good ways to protect against that vulnerability. They vary with the needs (and budgets) of relying parties. -- Learn about The Authenticity Economy at

Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement

2010-06-28 Thread Wes Kussmaul
entions of the sender of a stream of bits. This is the pointless electronic countermeasures race all over again. The solution was well developed, then obscured by the telephone century. http://quietenjoyment.net/slides2j.swf Wes Kussmaul -- Learn about The Authenticity Economy

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ron minnich wrote: I figure Marin Headlands ought to be cheap (dormitory housing!) but very attractive (right at the Golden Gate!). Cheap indeed! (apologies for the html) Our overnight package includes: * 3 meals per person * 1 meeting room for every 1 night stay * 1-time room set-u

Re: [9fans] Are we ready for DNSSEC ?

2010-01-25 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Tim Newsham wrote: dns is a non-issue if the rest of ssl is working. dns is irrelevant if it isn't. Except when SSL has chinks in its armor. Like incidents of certificate authorities being convinced to give out certs for domains that don't belong to the requestor. http://instigations.com/f

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-27 Thread Wes Kussmaul
And in closing let me cite an esteemed colleague's recent announcement: "Version 6.0 is a very important release. It streamlines the branding of product line..." --David Day, CTO at Zeus Technology

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-27 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: There is a lot of residual "management doesn't understand networks and databases and operating systems so we will make decisions for them" attitude out there, even where the reality of management's background has changed. While it's true that "cloud computing" is a nonsens

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-27 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: There is a lot of residual "management doesn't understand networks and databases and operating systems so we will make decisions for them" attitude out there, even where the reality of management's background has changed. While it's true that "cloud computing" is a nonsens

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-27 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: Equally true story. We used to run our own servers. A (name withheld) sysadmin always felt he knew better than management how servers should be configured and managed even when in fact he did not. So we went to Rackspace, where we are treated as customers and where sysadmi

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-27 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ron minnich wrote: The poster of this one has kind of missed the point. How would he feel if Rackspace outsourced their IT? Hit the first point, missed the second, batting .500 Poster Boy

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-27 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ron minnich wrote: How is it that companies that want you to buy their IT expertise outsource their own? It makes no sense. Equally true story. We used to run our own servers. A (name withheld) sysadmin always felt he knew better than management how servers should be configured and managed e

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-16 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ron minnich wrote: Insignificant bits of code that were not even visible suddenly dominate the time. Reminds me of some project development teams. Maybe Marvin Minsky was on to something.

Re: [9fans] /sys/include/ip.h 5c(1)

2009-10-06 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ron minnich wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX wrote: I don't think DEC deserves this branding. In my experience they were one of the most open hardware companies around. It was sad to watch the Alpha blow its early lead due to internal politics. Get wi

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

2009-09-21 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: storage vendors have a credibility problem. i think the big storage vendors, as referenced in the op, sell you on many things you don't need for much more than one has to spend. Those of us who know something about Coraid understand that your company doesn't engage in

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

2009-09-21 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: i think the lesson here is don't by cheep drives; Our top-of-the-line Sub Zero and Thermidor kitchen appliances are pure junk. In fact, I can point to Consumer Reports data that shows an inverse relationship between appliance cost and reliability. One who works for Co

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-07 Thread Wes Kussmaul
no password protection will suffice when ethics fails. iru English Lit grads please avert your eyes... "Something there is that doesn’t love a wall… He says again, “Good fences make good neighbors.” -Robert Frost, from Mending Wall _Something There is That Needs a Wall_ Somethin

Re: [9fans] "FAWN: Fast array of wimpy nodes" (was: Plan 9 - the next 20 years)

2009-04-20 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ron minnich wrote: RLX and Orion multisystems showed there is not much of a market for lots of wimpy nodes -- yet or never, is the real question. Either way, they did not have enough buyers to stay in business. And RLX had to drop its wimpy transmetas for P4s, and they could not keep up with the

Re: [9fans] J9P/StyxLib

2009-04-01 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Alex Efros wrote: GPL is a virus, designed to war against commercial software. That's not my war. Let's now pretend it's late August, the flame war has subsided after 500+ messages, and we can get on with the other discussions.

Re: [9fans] spreding the word

2009-02-23 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: On Mon Feb 23 12:20:19 EST 2009, w...@authentrus.com wrote: hugo rivera wrote: Hi Maulesel, I just ran into this book and I am sending it to you for two reasons: 1.- It's in german. 2.- It's about Plan 9. 3. You sell hard drives to server operators for a living. relax.

Re: [9fans] spreding the word

2009-02-23 Thread Wes Kussmaul
hugo rivera wrote: Hi Maulesel, I just ran into this book and I am sending it to you for two reasons: 1.- It's in german. 2.- It's about Plan 9. 3. You sell hard drives to server operators for a living.

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Anyone is welcome to help me organize the barrage of information I get from them. A lot of it is "no Android yet, but check out these Symbian/WinCE/etc phones..." That's starting to change however. Wes Kussmaul

Re: [9fans] Web interface to '/n/sources/contrib' gone??

2009-02-10 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Devon H. O'Dell wrote: "Can someone look into the web interface?" would have worked. Agreed +1 Agreed. But let's not devolve into the OpenBSD-every-word-must-be-right-or-you-get-flamed culture.

Re: [9fans] Very Off-Topic: Anybody here reads Sci-Fi? :)

2008-12-03 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Eris Discordia wrote: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn]... Shame on Augusto Pinochet, unaugust scoundrel, forever. And shame on Allende for not seeing that land reform via confiscation is always a loser's game. And of course shame on the U.S. government for its part in the deb

Re: [9fans] Next IWP9

2008-11-10 Thread Wes Kussmaul
If you want skiing then you want to hold it in Whistler (British Columbia). But I would *strongly* recommend against skipping a year if it's held there :-P There are things about Whi$tler that would pose problems for some. Whistler got its name from the common reaction to readers of its

Re: [9fans] Next IWP9

2008-11-10 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Northeast US, say january or feb., skipping next year, would be great for me. Clearly you just want to go skiing ;) If you want skiing then you want to hold it in Whistler (British Columbia). But I would *strongly* recommend against skipping a year if it's held the

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-05 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Eris Discordia wrote: I know one thing I doubt that.

Re: [9fans] fossil:diskWriteRawFailed error with Plan 9 on Microsoft Virtual PC

2008-10-12 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Uriel wrote: Although, the last update to sources is dated April 12, 2008. What makes you think that? You're all taking the bait again.

Re: [9fans] dns exploits (self-promotion remix)

2008-07-28 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: what is this "web 2.0" of which you speak? Web 2.0, n. A space created by artists who got all excited when they heard the word "sandbox," not realizing it meant the opposite of what they thought. wk

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-05 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Robert Raschke wrote: Apparently, there's now "features" made specifically for the xx-small screen. Does anyone on this list actually watch stuff on those dinky screens? My eyes (and maybe imagination) are not good enough to enjoy that. If your personal token happens to have a screen, then you

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-05 Thread Wes Kussmaul
was a television. With the World Wide Web, we've realized it's a brochure. Douglas Adams I believe Mr. Adams first made that observation in Delphi, which I founded in 1981. Now, what is the nature of the space that the PC leaves after it disappears? -- Wes Kussmaul

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-02 Thread Wes Kussmaul
andrey mirtchovski wrote: Mozilla didn't create the web. The web created Mozilla. just change Mozilla to Mosaic and see how P→Q suddenly becomes Q→P Why not redirect all this energy to answering the question, "What comes after the Web?" Wes Kussmaul

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente wrote: What did get so wrong that now people are willing to pay for a 1GiB ram minimum resource predator? 1. We allowed the revenue generation plans of the processor & memory manufacturers drive the client machine design agenda through their software part

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