Re: [9fans] Plan 9 History Timeline

2025-07-21 Thread Steve Simon
it might be interesting to add coraid’s work to the timeline - their core code is not released but it begat 9atom. i expect Brantly will be happy to supply some major releases. there was also nCube but i know little if what they did (other than make VOD servers) or anything that might remain fr

Re: [9fans] Mail with runbox

2025-06-07 Thread Steve Simon
i think you are better off emailing the 9front community. i can tell you how to do this using the labs distro (you just set the environment variable upasname), but 9front’s email is based on the 9atom/coraid code which is rather different.sorry not to be more help,-SteveOn 7 Jun 2025, at 4:11 pm, p

Re: [9fans] using GitHub.com/u-root/cpu on plan9 to connect to linux guests in vmx

2025-06-04 Thread Steve Simon
maybe i am remembering ancient unix but isn't the zero the inter-variable separator?-SteveOn 4 Jun 2025, at 5:37 pm, ron minnich wrote:anyway, I found it, when you do this in rc:x=yrc writes a trailing null. Not sure that's needed, but it's what it does. I'm going to strip trailing nulls in the c

Re: [9fans] Self Hosting and 9front Development

2025-06-03 Thread Steve simon
It is very rare that I agree with an email so vehemently! Sadly I no longer use plan9 (I appear to have become a go programmer on a Mac). However during the 15 years I used it daily as my desktop I learnt a huge amount and added/fixed quite a bit. I miss it and hope to come pack to it one day, i

Re: [9fans] Booting from gefs on RPi without the dance?

2025-06-01 Thread Steve Simon
if its the libc tokenize(2) then it does shell like tokenizing (rc that is) so you can use single quotes to quote stuff, and a double single quote to embed one single quote.-SteveOn 1 Jun 2025, at 8:41 am, f...@p9f.org wrote: I just reviewed the code that handles the command line on rpi where sys/

Re: [9fans] IWP9

2025-05-20 Thread Steve Simon
have a great time all, i would be there but its my twin’s birthday, and then my wedding anniversary. next time i hope. -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta7d6598050e24831-Ma9a59954ee350f250f94cce5 Delivery option

Re: [9fans] git/clone and ssh (g...@github.com)

2025-03-22 Thread Steve Simon
a few years ago i brought libsec from 9front over to the 4th edition (richard miller’s pi port) and used that to give ssh2 some more modern / widely accepted encryption algos. it was fairly straightforward, there was an another library dependency though i cannot remember what now (sorry). it wa

Re: [9fans] slides ...

2025-03-18 Thread Steve Simon
i used foils, a venerable package for plan9 presentations: http://www.quintile.net/pkg/foils.tbz i rather liked the look but perhaps it is not to your taste: http://www.quintile.net/papers/9win-foils.pdf -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans

Re: [9fans] Question about rimport

2025-01-30 Thread Steve Simon
do you have ethernet on your embedded systems? i did embedded development using plan9 as my desktop for years. being able to mount the embedded system is a great thing.i just compiled u9fs for the embedded system and it just worked.at one point we had a multiplexed terminal and file sharing interfa

Re: [9fans] Can you plumb a file with a single quote in the filename?

2025-01-26 Thread Steve Simon
i haven’t tried this but i suspect you can put a single quote in by doubling it. e.g. data_matches ‘[abc’’]def’ which should match any of adef bdef cdef ‘def one of the many wonderful things about plan9 is its uniform escaping and regex rules -Steve ---

Re: [9fans] can i stll golang on plan9?

2025-01-25 Thread Steve Simon
24th, 2025 at 5:04 PM, Bakul Shah via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: I see go1.23.5.plan9-{386,amd64,arm}.tar.gz on go.dev/dl/. Presumably you can cross-build for arm64?See also this long thread: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/57540 On Jan 24, 2025, at 12:23 AM, Steve Simon

[9fans] can i stll golang on plan9?

2025-01-24 Thread Steve Simon
hi, does the go compiler and runtime work on 9front, specificly, does it work on the raspberry pi? thanks, -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T6fe601aa30dd8c2b-Mfe15d84b3bb487392d62ac25 Delivery options: https:

Re: [9fans] where's that nice plan 9 pdf previewer from iwp9 ?

2025-01-18 Thread Steve Simon
we could call it 9news :-) > On 18 Jan 2025, at 11:58 am, Bakul Shah via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > > Random thought: > May be this can be extended/evolved into a "displayPDF kernel", which > can open up other uses such as a GUI, a better windowing system etc. > > I'm sure you guys must

Re: [9fans] Re: [p9fUsers] 2024 Plan 9 Foundation Board Report

2025-01-18 Thread Steve Simon
an alternative suggestion: how about writing an app like upas/debug which could analyse your installation and attempt to diagnose problems (and even suggest man pages to look at). personally i have found auth/debug very useful, though i still had situations that it couldn’t help with. just an

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-06 Thread Steve Simon
i can confirm vic is human and predates LLMs by many years. he has been a contributor to plan9 for as long as i can remember. people, be kind. -Steve > On 7 Oct 2024, at 5:10 am, vester.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote: > > No need for a DeLorean, Eli. This fits perfectly on a CD-ROM. ;-) > > http

Re: [9fans] plan9port changes to rc and acme

2024-10-01 Thread Steve Simon
if you need to synchronise two streams you could timestamp them. the timestams need not be realtime they could be just an unsigned event number. applications can then match up the timestamps if they need to. i am not saying this is a perfect solution, but its an alternative approach. -Steve

Re: [9fans] [APExp] which non-9front Plan9 variants are active? (for portability testing)

2024-09-17 Thread Steve Simon
personally i would avoid having curses (on plan9), and all that depends on it - but perhaps i am too dogmatic. re cfront this really is a relic, i never even managed to get vlong support into it (which in needed for “modern” plan9. there was a commercial c++ compiler for plan9 at one point, b

Re: [9fans] Adding lookup() to 9p?

2024-09-03 Thread Steve Simon
can you give some examples of where this new api would be used? nemo added a readfile and (i think) writefile message in his fork. that was aimed at transferring large sequential files from a fileserver. there was also many discussions of doing parallel or chained reads to improve 9p performa

Re: [9fans] Pi Zero - Ethernet?

2024-08-08 Thread Steve Simon
zero doesn't > come with an rj45 jack, so is this some add-on card to provide > ethernet? > >> On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 9:27 AM Steve Simon wrote: >> >> fwiw. i am pretty sure there was a plan9 raspberry pi spi driver, though >> this was for richard millers

Re: [9fans] Pi Zero - Ethernet?

2024-08-08 Thread Steve Simon
fwiw. i am pretty sure there was a plan9 raspberry pi spi driver, though this was for richard millers package - it may not (yet) be ported to 9front.i cannot remember if it was Richard's code or someone else's. check the 9fans archives -generally a good idea for any plan9 related questions.-SteveOn

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-31 Thread Steve Simon
gosh, a lot of vitriol on this subject. i suggest contacting Geoff Collier off-list, who i suspect wrote the code. I am pretty sure he is the author the set of efficient blueray backup and restore scripts for venti to support the Dutch team under Sape. The venti mirroring scripts probably date

Re: [9fans] 9atom libxml and more xml stuff

2024-07-26 Thread Steve Simon
I believe 9atom was a private project of Erik Quanstrom‘s - separate to his day job at Coraid, though id did include some little bits of coraid’s technology.I don’t believe it has been updated since everything changed there - the story here for those who have not seen it:How Silicon Valley can kill

Re: [9fans] 9atom libxml and more xml stuff

2024-07-25 Thread Steve Simon
yes, sorry 9atom not 9front. i am happy for you to use the same license :-) -Steve > On 25 Jul 2024, at 9:26 pm, sirjofri wrote: > > Hi, > > 25.07.2024 20:12:03 Steve simon : >> I am fairly sure the libxml in 9front was from me. > > I guess you mean 9atom

Re: [9fans] 9atom libxml and more xml stuff

2024-07-25 Thread Steve Simon
sorry, i meantIndex of /quintile.net/pkgquintile.net-SteveOn 25 Jul 2024, at 7:11 pm, Steve simon wrote:I am fairly sure the libxml in 9front was from me.My last code is at http://www.quintile.net/magic/webls?dir=/quintile.netI packaged them as libxml.tbz and xml.cmds.tbzIt contains an (optional

Re: [9fans] 9atom libxml and more xml stuff

2024-07-25 Thread Steve simon
I am fairly sure the libxml in 9front was from me. My last code is at http://www.quintile.net/magic/webls?dir=/quintile.net I packaged them as libxml.tbz and xml.cmds.tbz It contains an (optional) string heap as I wrote this code for 16bit embedded systems with limited memory. There is also m

Re: [9fans] Throwing in the Towel

2024-05-28 Thread Steve Simon
i can only speak from experience, but i have had fossil and venti running on a single ssd (on a radpberry pi) for 5 years now - no rotating discs left at home. i have mtime changes and ephemeral snapshots turned off to reduce the update rate. i chose a sandisk card, and take backups just in cas

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-17 Thread Steve Simon
i got very suspicious at the mention of a procinfo syscall - unlikely in plan9, and i couldn't imagine a use for such a thing given we have /proc already. -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te051f230f2656bbb-M506

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

2024-05-15 Thread Steve Simon
t; On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:08 AM Steve Simon wrote: >> >> >> Just a little first hand experience - I have run a fossil and venti server >> for twenty years now. >> >> Fossil suffered three problems in my opinion: >> >> Firstly it was not well pu

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

2024-05-15 Thread Steve Simon
Just a little first hand experience - I have run a fossil and venti server for twenty years now. Fossil suffered three problems in my opinion: Firstly it was not well publicised that fossil was never designed to cope with overflow; the sad truth is it fails catastrophically, as whitenessed by

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

2024-05-14 Thread Steve Simon
coraid has an interesting history.How Silicon Valley can kill your business, by a man scolded by the machineinformation-age.comBrantley now has the Coraid name back too and is using plan9 to this day.-SteveOn 14 May 2024, at 5:39 pm, arn...@skeeve.com wrote:"B. Atticus Grobe" wrote:As for compani

Re: [9fans] VCS on Plan9

2024-04-18 Thread Steve simon
re: VCS -vs-dump I always planned to add code to fossil to allow members of (say) the 'dump' group to trigger fa fossil to venti dump at arbitrary times. If with this it would be trivial to have a 'release' rc script which could save a log message and trigger a dump. I know this is not really a

Re: [9fans] dd(1) takes very long

2024-03-01 Thread Steve simon
A larger block size as lucio says, and also try two dd's with a pipe between them, one reading and one writing. dd(1) is single threaded but you have two asynchronous physical devices. I have had good success copying sd-cards using fcp - rsc's multithreaded cp, already in the distribution, th

Re: [9fans] happy halloween

2023-11-01 Thread Steve Simon
very fine carving :-)-SteveOn 1 Nov 2023, at 5:51 am, fig wrote:glenda would’ve been way too hard to carve. plus the knife i had could barely have cut butter it was so dull. 9fans / 9fans / see discussions + participants + delivery options Permalink

Re: [9fans] 9Legacy status

2023-09-03 Thread Steve Simon
hi don, yes it it. 9 legacy is the replacement for the labs sources repository in real terms. it is courteous to cross publish patch descriptions to 9front of course. sadly i have become all but inactive on plan9 these days, but hope i might get back to it. -Steve > On 4 Sep 2023, at 3:34 a

Re: [9fans] print() in kernel space doesn't work like I would think

2023-08-31 Thread Steve Simon
trycat /dev/kmesgorcat /dev/kprintOn 31 Aug 2023, at 4:44 pm, dusan3...@gmail.com wrote: I was editing plan9's realtime scheduler in /sys/src/9/port/edf.c and was trying to add a print to log something, but print didn't show anywhere(or I am looking at the wrong place). It has some prints in sourc

Re: [9fans] Plan9 multi-core support

2023-08-28 Thread Steve Simon
there was a vax compiler and i think a vax kenfs implementation, i don’t know if there was a vax cpu/auth kernel. quite possibly not. currently i can only find my own post on tuhs confirming the vax was a dead end. but i am sure jmk told me he found a vax compiler binary in the labs dump. i t

Re: [9fans] Plan9 multi-core support

2023-08-28 Thread Steve Simon
> Plan 9 first edition came out in 1992, at a time when multicore didn't exist, > and multicore was released with IBM's Power 4 in 2001. possibly true but multi-cpu boxes where becoming quite popular in the late 1980s and these have very similar kernel design challenges to multicore architectu

Re: [9fans] Standalone venti, fossil configuration

2023-08-18 Thread Steve Simon
if fossil and venti are started at boot then the plan9.ini variable venti= is all thats needed. if you want to start them after boot, booting from another filesystem then the -v option to fossil is what you are after. i wrote a hand-holding doc about rebuilding a venti/fossil years ago: https:

Re: [9fans] PXE tftpload: file does not exist

2023-07-17 Thread Steve Simon
are you running the tftp server? > On 17 Jul 2023, at 4:38 pm, Marco Feichtinger wrote: > > I have a standalone file server, and a separate standalone auth server. > > I tried to pxe boot a cpu server. > It gets the /386/9boot to load fine, but then it seems, that it can’t > retrieve the fil

Re: [9fans] Re: iso expanded, mount list (dd) device

2023-07-07 Thread Steve Simon
9660srv - it mounts an iso as 9p file server in /srv/9660, so you need to do a mount(1) to actually see the contents.-SteveOn 7 Jul 2023, at 7:20 pm, Conor Williams wrote:ok... thank you Steve, well in...that particular train of thought leads me to another question...has you r a'yone an iso.expan

Re: [9fans] iso expanded, mount list (dd) device

2023-07-07 Thread Steve Simon
not quite sure i understand what you are asking, but perhaps ns(1) will show you what you want.-SteveOn 7 Jul 2023, at 6:59 pm, Conor Williams wrote:hello 9fannors...i wish to find the device? which the p9 iso file is mounted from...(a vm boot (i dont think that matters though...)e.g c drive is /

Re: [9fans] [PATCH] fossil: fix a deadlock in the caching logic

2023-04-04 Thread Steve Simon
was this hard to reproduce?i have not seen fossil deadlocking and have used it since i installed my first home server in 2004.there definitely _was_ a problem in the snapshot code which was finally resolved around 2015 (roughly), i think perhaps skip, or forsyth found it - i apologise if i have the

Re: [9fans] iwp9: papers announced

2023-03-14 Thread Steve Simon
seconded, excellent work all. i would like to buy the proceedings if they are going to be available as a bound volume. -Steve > On 14 Mar 2023, at 4:52 am, Lucio De Re wrote: > > Too far for me to travel, but there is a lot in the list I will be > extremely sorry to miss. > > Well done to

Re: [9fans] Mail 447: /mail/fs/mbox/: open: error

2023-01-16 Thread Steve Simon
i think you may not have created your mailbox. every user needs to create their own mailbox with “mail -c”.cron similarly with cron -cthis is usually done by the script /sys/lib/newuser which also creates your $home/lib/profile and some other bits.this needs to be done only once per user.-SteveOn 1

Re: [9fans] Statistics collection for Plan 9

2022-11-27 Thread Steve Simon
the screenshot failed to attach… > On 27 Nov 2022, at 16:30, Steven Stallion wrote: > > All, > > Some time ago (history(1) claims late 2015) I wrote a small network > client for collectd to send system statistics to a remote server for > visualization. It's worked well over the years and ove

Re: [9fans] How can I compile c code written for plan9 in ANIS C compiler

2022-10-10 Thread Steve Simon
re: p9p for windows Sean Quinlan did a p9p-line port for windows called 9pm, It was seen (it seems) as a port of sam with some simple command line tools rather than a complete plan9 toolkit. its available here: https://netlib.org/research/ as sam.exe There was an attempt at a p9p for windows b

Re: [9fans] How can I compile c code written for plan9 in ANIS C compiler

2022-10-06 Thread Steve Simon
apologies for completely missing the point, note to self: coffee first, then reply to mailing lists -Steve > On 6 Oct 2022, at 11:21, Charles Forsyth wrote: > >  > If you look at plan9port (eg, https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/), you'll see > how that's done for a good chunk of the applicati

Re: [9fans] How can I compile c code written for plan9 in ANIS C compiler

2022-10-05 Thread Steve Simon
the native plan9 c environment is similar to ansi c but has some differences, mainly to the standard libraries. plan9 also has an ansi/posix environment which is aimed at making it easier to port foreign code. to use ape, use the pcc command. there is a fairly complete command line enviroment

Re: [9fans] 9p server to multiply 9p messages?

2022-06-01 Thread Steve Simon
for performance testing why not copy from ramfs on one machine to ramfs on another? the suggestion from a 9con passim was to have fossil/cwfs/hjfs etc add a Qid type flag to files indicating they are from backing store (QTSTABLE ?)and thus may be copied in parallel. devices and synthetic would

9fans@9fans.net

2022-05-13 Thread Steve Simon
ntohl in libc? say its not so? -Steve > On 13 May 2022, at 10:23 pm, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > > Quoth adr : >> so I imagined that some functions >> or macros could be defined already somewhere. > > They exist in fcall.h -- see GBIT/PBIT macros. > > I wouldn't object mych to putting them i

Re: [9fans] factotum (was: Connect plan9 with Linux SMB resource)

2022-04-10 Thread Steve Simon
i am the author of cifs. i may have some slightly more recent fixes than 9 front has, i will check. the manual page does explain some registry settings you may need to tweak to get it to work - to do with windows getting more and more restrictive about the authentication protocols it supports.

Re: [9fans] plan9port spell and dict

2022-03-11 Thread Steve Simon
my spelling is so dreadful that i need more help than just spell. i wrote suggest(1) which tries to guess what i meant to write: http://www.quintile.net/pkg/suggest.tbz this runs on vanilla plan9 so may need a little tweak for p9p. i got hold of an OED cdrom and managed to build dict for that -

Re: [9fans] licence question

2022-01-29 Thread Steve Simon
good grief people. Someone doesn’t like GPLs, can we not just accept this and not tell them they are wrong. And if they wish not to release the source for their work, again that is their decision. its one thing to point out the (possibly) unseen side effects of these decisions but lets just l

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

2022-01-29 Thread Steve Simon
search ebay for beatus mouse On 29 Jan 2022, at 1:22 am, adr wrote: Do you know where to buy the wired model? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T49f3cceea70d2b61-Me3a9d0fbf96e1b424073ffab Delivery options: https://9fa

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

2022-01-28 Thread Steve Simon
I am a long term sam user and a three button mouse, but I also like the ease of navigation of a scroll wheel. I use a Beatus mouse - three real buttons and a scroll wheel on the side for your thumb. Sadly they are only made right handed and they are a little small for my hand but they are still

Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation

2022-01-24 Thread Steve Simon
i suggest first you check your facts carefully before publicly accusing anyone of anything. throwing unchecked accusations around is a good way to start an angry mob, and we all know how inclusive those tend to be. -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: ht

Re: [9fans] Unable to load page in Abaco

2022-01-18 Thread Steve Simon
you need ip/ipconfig ndb/cs ndb/dns webfs abaco the ipconfig call may need a -R if you want to use dhcp rather than having a static ip from ndb. nsd/cs will set the sysname based on matching the mac address in lib/ndb/local, and this will be put in your prompt of any shell. this is nice but not

Re: [9fans] Unable to load page in Abaco

2022-01-17 Thread Steve Simon
li looks like you are not running ndb/dns. you need to start this before webfs, and then start abaco after that. sadly the web has moved on a but since abaco was written - it used to render most pages quite well. These days its lack of javascript is more and more of a problem. -Steve On 17 J

Re: [9fans] Boot CD chokes

2021-12-30 Thread Steve Simon
thought experiment: imagine someone was commenting on the 9front mailing list how 9front was not worth bothering with and how the OP should use OSX. that would make the 9front people a little frustrated. > i don't know what aspect exactly of > "classic" computing motivates you > to recommend

Re: [9fans] Autoexpand in sam

2021-09-26 Thread Steve Simon
i would use ,|spell which replaces the current window with sam’s output, then, having taken note of the errors, type u to undo and fix the mistakes. this is just personal choice of course. -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/g

Re: [9fans] UTF-8 characters in acme

2021-09-09 Thread Steve Simon
pretty much the only major change to sam since 87 was (i believe) the migration from ASCII (on Unix v10 and p9 Ed1) to utf-8. if you are not seeing unicode characters it is most probably because you don’t have a font with the appropriate glyphs. -Steve ---

Re: [9fans] porting projects...

2021-09-06 Thread Steve Simon
mouse sharing is not end, there is also cut and paste integration - relatively easy but not to be forgotten. i think you could also play some fun tricks with drag and drop on other os’s passing a (modified) path to the plumber (/n/remote-host/file-path). finally plumbing a url on plan9 could

Re: [9fans] porting projects...

2021-09-04 Thread Steve Simon
i was going to mention barrier but couldn’t remember it’s name. as far as the plan9 code goes they should both work - the only difference being the initial handshake message. current synergy supports many new features but plan9 is not interested. the problem is really the lack of documentatio

Re: [9fans] porting projects...

2021-09-04 Thread Steve Simon
i will bite i tried and faild to get cinap’s historic synergy client to work with a current synergy server on windows/linux/osx etc. the biggest pain is the wireshark disector is buggy and there is no real documentation for the protocol. not really selling it am i? -Steve --

Re: [9fans] Codebase navigation and using tags files in acme

2021-08-20 Thread Steve Simon
I wrote a bit of lex to extract features from c code. being lex it is incomplete to say the least but i found it good enough. my code used to run every night passed a list of files to parse, and wrote an idenifier, comment, function, #define etc database (2 text files) which i could grep thro

Re: [9fans] How to setup wifi on raspberry pi 4

2021-08-11 Thread Steve Simon
if the second raspberry pi is *not* running plan9 sshnet allows you to use its network interfaces (via ssh) for tcp connections. -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T3464a8c7bad3062a-M6fb3318c9ffecf7d59c88c82 Deliv

Re: [9fans] nfs timeouts

2021-08-09 Thread Steve Simon
hi i am afraid there are long standing issues in nfs(4). i had problems years ago using it to read image files from a pluto video disk store. from memory the issue was when doing a directory scan of the pluto it would take so long nfs(4) would timeout, and this was not gracefully handled proper

Re: [9fans] Four numbers in /lib/sky/here

2021-07-28 Thread Steve Simon
hi, i suspect rob or ken would be the ones to ask, maybe something to do with some private flight planning or astronomy tool? -Steve On 27 Jul 2021, at 7:13 pm, Dan Cross wrote:  On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 1:53 PM Anthony Sorace wrote: > There are a few other things which also use that file (

Re: Posix implementation of Plan 9 cpu(1) (Was: [9fans] Command to set samterm label)

2021-07-21 Thread Steve Simon
i wrote a cpu like client/server for windows (called dos). my code and test environment lived on a microsoft smb server. i ran cifs(1) to get access to this from plan9 and sam. dos(1) allowed me to start an rc(1) running on win32 in the same directory as my current directory on plan9. it als

Re: Posix implementation of Plan 9 cpu(1) (Was: [9fans] Command to set samterm label)

2021-07-19 Thread Steve Simon
my cpu for windows was always incomplete, but good enough that i never finished it properly. for posix i just use sftpfs or now cinap’s sshftp to import the filesystem from the posix box as /n/fred and run sam locally (i am a samista rather than an acmeite) i cannot run stuff remotely but i

Re: [9fans] p9f mention of 9front

2021-06-25 Thread Steve Simon
I think there where two reported issues with fossil. On was a bug in ephermerial shapshots which could cause it to crash, this was fixed about 10 years ago but did exist for an embarassingly long time. The other was a design decision rather than a bug which was not well communicated. Fossil was d

Re: [9fans] Miller's 9pi image (rpi4) problems

2021-06-17 Thread Steve Simon
I must appologise, though I sent a reply at the time, an out of date x509 certificate meant the email never reached my ISP. What I tried to say was... > I wonder if the abaco problem you are seeing is the global move to > stronger TLS algorithms. I have backported libcrypt from 9front which > wa

Re: [9fans] sam -d for DOS (FreeDOS)?

2021-06-17 Thread Steve Simon
I do think I build the backend of sam on MSDOS back in the day, it was most probably the 1st edition plan9 code which was released as a seperate package (with X11 libraries). (still kicking around on netlib: http://www.netlib.org/research/) It require some porting effort but I am pretty sure I di

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi400 Ethernet

2021-05-28 Thread Steve Simon
hi Brian, pi4 ether worked out of the box for me with richards kernel, i am running a kernel from Christmas. sadly i have had problems with usb3 which is on my todo list - usb2 devices work fine as do usb3 devices in usb2 sockets. -Steve -- 9fans: 9fan

Re: [9fans] SFF 9legacy fileserver hardware

2021-04-28 Thread Steve Simon
I am running a PI4 as my file/auth/cpu server. I planned to use an external ssd on a usb3 but this has stalled as I cannot get the 9front xhci driver to work in richard's kernel. It is probably not a big issue, and works fine (abet slowly) over USB2. until last year I still had a dual Atom machin

[9fans] p9f email address

2021-03-31 Thread Steve Simon
hi is there an email address to contact p9f directly? -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta6a7f3df36695764-M37542a3e3d005c764b8773fe Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] Olimex: these guys are keen electronic engineers.

2021-03-01 Thread Steve Simon
FWIW I wrote an embedded system on a small SOC arm (Atmel sam4e) a couple of years ago (this is a 128Kbyte/100Mhz class machine). I ported Russ's libtask to it. I extended it a bit with a command line interface for debug and added timeouts but I ended up with a delightful development environment,

[9fans] git9 to tradational interface wrapper for go

2021-02-28 Thread Steve Simon
Hi all, Anyone made any progress writing a wrapper script, like djc's /rc/bin/git, for ori's git9? It may seem peverse to replicate Linus's interface (which I don't like), but the go compiler suite expects this interface, so rather than trying to hack go this seems the path of least resistance.

Re: [9fans] sshnet and the go dns resolver

2021-02-23 Thread Steve Simon
thanks all for the suggestions. digging through the source of sshnet.c and the go net library i think i understand. the plan9 runtime library assumes, and insists the string returned from /net/cs contains a valid ip address. the code in sshnet which serves a /net/cs does a local ndb lookup, a

[9fans] sshnet and the go dns resolver

2021-02-23 Thread Steve Simon
hi, the senerio - i have a plan9 terminal, a mac laptop. the laptop connects to a vpn. i write in go, and thus far i use sshfs to mount the mac’s filesystem and edit my code. i build and run the code on the mac. i thought i could use git9 via sshnet to work natively on plan9 most of this is f

Re: [9fans] 2c/2l make sense, but why 1c/1l?

2021-02-23 Thread Steve Simon
I don't believe a 68000 compiler was ever released by the labs but there may have been one - some blit terminals had 68000s (and maybe gnots?) so its plausable. There was a port of the plan9 compilers to the VAX but I think its sourcecode was lost (jmk found an executable some years). -Steve ---

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation

2021-02-10 Thread Steve Simon
> How do we get involved in or become a member of the foundation? I too am interested in supporting plan9 in any form I can. -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-Mf8d4170c614f10a8bb00470f Delivery opt

Re: [9fans] patches from 9front

2021-02-10 Thread Steve Simon
FWIW I recently extracted ssh/sshfs/libsec from 9front and applied them to richard miller's raspberry pi image. This was not too hard but the changes did extend further than I first expected. I could braindump what I did and it would form (I think) a very useful diff. Richard millers image is not

[9fans] tbl page width

2021-02-09 Thread Steve Simon
hi, anyone any ideas how to inform tbl that i am using wide paper - well A4 landscape. i have tried .pl and the LL number register which tells the ms macros but tbl does’t appear to pick up this info. -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.t

Re: [9fans] Re: GSoC 2021 project ideas

2021-02-08 Thread Steve Simon
there was a native plan9 dis interpreter that would run simple command line applications. on Andrey’s website i think. -Steve On 8 Feb 2021, at 8:49 pm, cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wrote: "Ethan Gardener" writes: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, at 7:16 AM, cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wro

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas (WAS: Re: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021)

2021-02-01 Thread Steve Simon
someone at the land (peter bosch?) dis a haupage video capture card. i am pretty sure i have a copy of the driver and user level app somewhere. this worked on an old pci card i had at one time. -Steve On 1 Feb 2021, at 8:32 pm, cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wrote: Anthony Sorace write

[9fans] pi3 b+ and 5ghz wifi

2021-01-25 Thread Steve Simon
hi, does the pi3 b+ support 5ghz wifi? i have a feeling it doesn’t but i cannot find a message in 8fans passim which states one way of the other, i understand it will probably be no quicker but i am seeing miserable performance from wifi at the moment which i am fairly sure is due to my neigh

Re: [9fans] authoritative source for u9fs?

2021-01-22 Thread Steve Simon
maybe i have missed something but i don’t think u9fs changed much. i added a fix, years ago, adding frogs for some of the weird stuff osx does to filenames. in my world it has been completely replaced by sshfs. -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https:/

[9fans] cfs

2021-01-20 Thread Steve Simon
Hi all, I am playing with cfs(4). It works nicely dialing to my fileserver but fails if I try to use the existing /srv/boot channel. failed with /srv/boot: sceolan% 5.out -d -n -F /srv/boot -f $cfs -S /n/cache <-client: Tversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000' ->se

[9fans] now a usb question

2021-01-15 Thread Steve Simon
sorry to keep asking, a couple of years ago you gave me a technique for stopping part of usb and then restarting it with debug turned on (done from a usb keyboard). i have a new compact keyboard from ebay but it is not seen by plan9, and not listed in usb/probe; though it does work with MacOS

Re: [9fans] default profile and factotum

2021-01-14 Thread Steve Simon
> With drawterm you'd need running factotum on the cpu, which is not that > nice... FYI: I have a patch which stores the secrets from secstore in /dev/secstore in drawterm so your profile can start factotum -n and populate the factotum with cat - and then importantly clear out the /dev/secstore.

[9fans] default profile and factotum

2021-01-14 Thread Steve Simon
I came across a strange issue today - I could not send mail when cpu'ed into a different machine. It turned out to be my factotum was not visible (it was not bound in in my profile) This feels starnge to me so I checked in /sys/lib/newuser to make sure I hand't just deleted the line by mistake,

[9fans] thin clints, confession and a freebie

2021-01-09 Thread Steve Simon
hi, the talk of thin clients reminded me i offered an hp t5325 thin client to anyone who wants to port plan9 to it. i think someone wanted it but i never sent it - sorry. i still have the device and psu, details here: https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5325/ free to anyone who wants it...

Re: [9fans] mice

2020-11-27 Thread Steve Simon
i tried a countour mouse but didn't get on with it. i bought a cheap Chinese copy - 3 real buttons on top and a wheel on the side. i cannot find the exact link, this is the same mouse but i have the wired version - never needs recharged. i really like it, it fits my had well and i can use sam,

[9fans] venti sealed arenas and ondisk format

2020-11-25 Thread Steve Simon
Hi, I have a pile of sealed venti arenas on an a usb stick, and the last fossil score. is there any reasonable way I can view the dump filesystem from these with a readonly filesystem without: formatting a filesystem to take them building indexes running venti fi

Re: [9fans] osc drawterm big sur

2020-11-20 Thread Steve Simon
submitted pull requests on github for these changes. -Steve > On 19 Nov 2020, at 2:59 pm, sirjofri wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm not on OSX, but: > > 19.11.2020 12:40:00 Steve Simon : >> there is no /mnt/term/dev/secstore device containing my secstore when i > a

Re: [9fans] osc drawterm big sur

2020-11-19 Thread Steve Simon
i just have the xcode supplied clang and it works well. i have two issues with it: my shift key is generating spurious peter-face characters which makes typing rather painful (i have to delete these as i type) there is no /mnt/term/dev/secstore device containing my secstore when i authentica

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 4 stability dependent in RAM

2020-11-18 Thread Steve Simon
not the same but i am just building up a pi3b+ server running Richard’s current kernel. i have a lightning bolt onscreen and occasional red led flashes but so far it has bern absolutely reliable. the only areas of minor problems: wifi does not always connect, and if it fails it needs a power

[9fans] osc drawterm big sur

2020-11-18 Thread Steve Simon
osx drawterm source has been broken for a while due to apple withdrawing support fot quicktime libraries. with the move to big sur the prebuilt binaries now fail to run (i am guessing the quicktime shared libraries have now gone too) anyone able to help? i am an osx programming newbie. -Stev

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 4 stability dependent in RAM

2020-11-14 Thread Steve Simon
> The pi4 is very sensitive to power supply voltage. absolutely, i had loads of problems with a lowly pi3+ until i tried an old ipad charger (2.5A i think), it has been stable since. -Steve -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9f

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