Re: [9fans] GitHub.com/u-root/u-root now works again on plan 9

2025-01-01 Thread Stanley Lieber
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Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-31 Thread Stanley Lieber
On July 31, 2024 5:39:48 AM EDT, sirjofri wrote: >31.07.2024 11:09:40 hiro <23h...@gmail.com>: > >> nobody here has this goal and this is not a peer review process, go >> away you waste of time. > > Without comment: > > Kalona Ayeliski (ᎪᎳᏅ ᎠᏰᎵᏍᎩ "Raven Mockers") are spirits who prey on the soul

Re: [9fans] Re: broken link in cat-v

2024-02-10 Thread Stanley Lieber
On February 10, 2024 4:17:54 AM EST, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: >On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 06:04:33PM +1100, Rob Pike wrote: >> Thanks, but I don't know who owns that site these dayse. I'll forward to >> the 9fans mailing list. >> >> -rob >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 6:20

Re: [9fans] Prompt for wpapsk during wifi boot

2023-06-14 Thread Stanley Lieber
On June 14, 2023 10:18:13 AM EDT, Luis wrote: > According to plan9.ini(8): > wpapsk=password > WPA/WPA2 encryption is detected automatically and a prompt > for the password will appear when using the WIFI interface > for netbooting. To avoid the prompt, the password can be > specified with the

Re: [9fans] Public Access 9front systems

2023-06-12 Thread Stanley Lieber
On June 12, 2023 3:25:01 PM EDT, tesfaye via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > Does anyone know of any services similar to tilde.town or http://sdf.org that > run 9front? I've been searching for a little while but can't find any. > > I know you can pay for VMs on SDF, but I wanted to know if there

Re: [9fans] Boot CD chokes

2021-12-28 Thread Stanley Lieber
On December 28, 2021 10:42:27 PM UTC, Humm wrote: >Quoth Duke Normandin: >> I'm new to Plan9. I don't know fuck all! So I gotta start at the >> beginning - NOT at sysadmin level. Off to Google ... > >The beginning is the name. The thing you use is “9front”. The abandoned >thing is “Plan 9”. No

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread Stanley Lieber
http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.2.3 sl

Re: [9fans] Hack font for plan9

2016-11-16 Thread Stanley Lieber
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Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Stanley Lieber
Charlie there are some things you should know: http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html sl

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Stanley Lieber
Charlie Lin wrote: >Any plans for Plan 9 5th edition? > >My desires: >ISO-compliant C compiler and preprocessor >Port other programming languages (especially Go) to here >Start a source code repository >Port Git, SVN, Mercurial, et cetera to here At the risk of being contradicted: No. sl

Re: [9fans] Hack font for plan9

2016-11-16 Thread Stanley Lieber
Steve Simon wrote: >> I have converted the open source font called Hack to plan 9 font >format. > >Thats nice, not sure if I will switch, I will try it for a week or >so... > >I think the sizes are wrong, the 14 point in the hack directory looks >close to 9 point in >the plan9 pelm font. > >-Stev

Re: [9fans] Maintenance of an auth server files vs a dns+dhcp+tftp server

2016-11-16 Thread Stanley Lieber
what they did at the main Bell >Labs installation. > >> On Nov 15, 2016, at 14:05, Stanley Lieber wrote: >> >> "James A. Robinson" wrote: >> >>> So in a canonical installation the auth server mounts its root from >the >>> file serv

Re: [9fans] Maintenance of an auth server files vs a dns+dhcp+tftp server

2016-11-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen wrote: >On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Stanley Lieber wrote: > >> "James A. Robinson" wrote: >> >> >So in a canonical installation the auth server mounts its root from >the >> >file server? >> > &

Re: [9fans] Maintenance of an auth server files vs a dns+dhcp+tftp server

2016-11-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
"James A. Robinson" wrote: >So in a canonical installation the auth server mounts its root from the >file server? > >On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:47 AM Stanley Lieber wrote: > >> The idea is that there is one file system shared by all the >neighboring >> sy

Re: [9fans] Maintenance of an auth server files vs a dns+dhcp+tftp server

2016-11-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
"James A. Robinson" wrote: >Folks, > >For a multi-machine network of Plan 9 services, would it be >normal to have an authsrv machine that only runs that service, >and uses a standalone local filesystem, and then have a separate >server running dns+dhcp+tftp to PXE boot client machines. The >latt

Re: [9fans] IWP9

2016-11-08 Thread Stanley Lieber
michaelian ennis wrote: >I just realized that the next would be the 9th International Workshop >on >Plan 9. I wonder where it will be. > >Ian outer space

Re: [9fans] Making available a pre-compiled go binary for Miller's plan-9 Pi image (Chris McGee)

2016-10-30 Thread Stanley Lieber
Chris McGee wrote: >I tried this command with both go 1.7.3 and master branches. Both fail >right after “ Building packages and commands for host, plan9/386” >with an error “install: ./install not found.” > >It seems like the go bootstrap tool is trying to call a binary called >“install” but

Re: [9fans] libtask

2016-10-13 Thread Stanley Lieber
Steve Simon wrote: >Hi all, > >I am using libtask on an embedded system with great success, >however I would like to add remote file access to the system... > >9p seems a good fit ☺ > >Anyone written or ported a small simple 9p library; >I am after client and server but anything would be good. >

Re: [9fans] 3D graphics as a filesystem

2016-10-12 Thread Stanley Lieber
"James A. Robinson" wrote: >I wonder if the Inferno guys did anything like that. > >There was a youtube video from John Floren talking about his work >replacing >Java w/ Inferno on an Android phone and I think he mentioned some ideas >he >had consider w/re to driving graphics using a 9p interface

Re: [9fans] Plan9 and VMs

2016-09-02 Thread stanley lieber
Bakul Shah wrote: >On Fri, 02 Sep 2016 22:54:38 +0200 Adriano Verardo > wrote: >> What about VirtualBox or other VMs ? > >VirtualBox has worked well for me though I haven't installed >plan9 lately. http://fqa.9front.org/fqa3.html#3.3 sl

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-08-31 Thread stanley lieber
Skip Tavakkolian wrote: >On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:43 AM stanley lieber wrote: > >> Steven Stallion wrote: >> >> >On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Kurt H Maier >wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:52:31PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: >&

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-08-31 Thread stanley lieber
Steven Stallion wrote: >On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:52:31PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: >>> > plan 9 as more than a masturbatory aid. >>> >>> put up or shut up: >> ... >> Congratulations on your accomplishments! > >% fn ck { grep $* /n/so

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-08-23 Thread stanley lieber
Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > In fact the population of 9fans in >my >neighborhood has doubled. Shades of damned lies and statistics? sl

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-08-23 Thread stanley lieber
Erik modified into a diskless file >server using our AoE appliances behind it. I develop on Plan 9 >exclusively. And we use it as a distributed operating system running on >about a dozen machines. > >I suspect that we might the be only ones. > > Brantley > >> On Aug 23,

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-08-23 Thread stanley lieber
Don Bailey wrote: >Plan 9 shall never die. > > >On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:21 AM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> > I see from the archive (http://marc.info/?l=9fans) there were no >> messages at >> > all in June, maybe everyone was tired out after the 203 messages in >May? >> >

Re: [9fans] Chords, ^, _, ^B and scroll with mouse wheel in p9p sam

2016-05-27 Thread stanley lieber
The intended convention is for the scrollwheel to behave similar to clicking inside the scrollbar. It is unclear how to fix mousing for users who don't want to keep track of where the mouse pointer is. sl

Re: [9fans] problem with acme on 9front

2016-05-19 Thread stanley lieber
>> at the cost of stepping all over the rest of the (Plan 9) system > > >? To get the best use out of acme you need to arrange for it to capture a lot of plumber rules (or arrange to maintain multiple sets of rules for acme and not-acme). Because of the way acme manages windows, programs often n

Re: [9fans] problem with acme on 9front

2016-05-19 Thread stanley lieber
It seems likely that anyone subscribed to this list is capable of making an informed decision about which text editor they prefer to use. That said, acme makes a certain style of interaction easier at the cost of stepping all over the rest of the (Plan 9) system. Some people just don't like the

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread stanley lieber
Have you tried setting and alternate user agent? sl

Re: [9fans] acme search backwards

2015-09-03 Thread Stanley Lieber
> somehow I thought that was going to be the response gee, erik On Sep 3, 2015, 10:16 AM, at 10:16 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >somehow I thought that was going to be the response, but that's not >really true unless acme has been rewritten on the lower level kbd >model. > >that model also intro

Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9

2015-07-27 Thread Stanley Lieber
in some cases, plan 9's coincidental inability to run modern programs that do unpredictable and undesirable things is a useful feature. mothra, for example, doesn't even handle many html tags, but it also doesn't execute unknown server-supplied code on my terminal. how can i be sure? because the

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

2015-05-30 Thread Stanley Lieber
> On May 30, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote: > > >>> On May 30, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: >>> >>> pretty difficult to do if there is a desire to use git or hg. >> >> does hgfs use APE? I haven't investigated too closely. > > hgfs is a read-only Hg tool written in Limbo.

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

2015-05-30 Thread Stanley Lieber
On May 30, 2015, at 11:54 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> I would very much like to see this fast and conformant, so that APE >> awk can be thrown in the trash. > > i don't understand this. awk is bwk's ota source, with some minor tweaks to > fit the > environment. it works well, and allows port

Re: [9fans] using git

2015-03-30 Thread Stanley Lieber
this world sucks

Re: [9fans] using git

2015-03-19 Thread Stanley Lieber
> I'll be happy to continue a > discussion with you offline, if you > wish. are you asking him to take it outside

Re: [9fans] unexpected tabs in man pages after font change

2015-03-04 Thread Stanley Lieber
troff is great. easy to maintain programmatically. sl

Re: [9fans] Installing Go in Plan 9 on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-12-24 Thread Stanley Lieber
yes, it is sure that it will not work. sl

Re: [9fans] Using webfs from rc

2014-07-14 Thread Stanley Lieber
The following is hget implemented in rc: http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/rc/bin/hget sl

Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards

2012-03-21 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: >> aka Lucent Orinoco Silver >> aka IBM High Rate Wireless LAN >> etc. > > "Firsthand experience only" ? Perhaps it's a faulty assumption that all PC24E-H-FC cards are created equal. I've seen them branded many different

Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards

2012-03-21 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: >> PCMCIA: >> >> Wavelan PC24E-H-FC > >  aka Avaya World Card Silver aka Lucent Orinoco Silver aka IBM High Rate Wireless LAN etc. -sl

[9fans] known working wifi cards

2012-03-20 Thread Stanley Lieber
Reading into the record. Please update the list (or the wiki) if you've verified any other working wifi cards. Please, firsthand experience only. -sl PCI: none known PCI Express: none known MiniPCI: Actiontec 800MIP (branded Lucent WaveLAN) MiniPCI Express: none known PCMCIA: Wavelan PC

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2012

2012-03-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
> SSH2 in any form helps a ton. Taruti wrote a simple ssh2 client in go called scpu[1][2] that I've been using since last summer. It builds on Plan 9 with gmake and her (now outdated) port of go[2]. The command line options mirror those of cpu(1), and it works well with factotum(4). There is also

Re: [9fans] Intel X4500 Integrated Graphics support

2011-12-20 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:03 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > i never considered the advertized modes might depend on > the monitor connected.  have you observed this? Yes. I have a few combinations of VGA-VGA, DVI-DVI, VGA-DVI, DVI-HDMI, etc., cables, and, using the same card and monitor, I get dif

Re: [9fans] Intel X4500 Integrated Graphics support

2011-12-20 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:52 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > i think most people are using vesa.  unfortunately > that limits one to 4:3 graphics modes. Some card/monitor combinations seem to support other aspect ratios that are technically outside of the VESA spec. For example, my NVidia GeForce 840

Re: [9fans] Building Go on Plan 9

2011-12-01 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:00 PM, John Floren wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Anthony Martin wrote: >> A few people were asking about this so I >> wrote up a tutorial.  I also uploaded a >> copy to http://apm.sdf.org/go/NOTES for >> anyone who has trouble with attachments. >> >> Cheers, >

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

2011-11-27 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > this reasoning is so ridiculous that i have to believe you're trolling. > > the U.S. Constitution has been the foundation for the rule of law in > this country for 200+ years, and the Gettysburg address honored the > fallen and the ideals

Re: [9fans] Forks of Plan 9 (Was: 9vx instability)

2011-11-25 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:55 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> (I know Erik has adopted at least the BCM57xx driver for 9atom). I'm > > although it's in there, it doesn't work with the bcm57xx hardware i have. > so cavet emptor. You might want to re-synch. Recent changes have caused the BCM5755 in my

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

2011-11-24 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Lucio De Re wrote: > Is it too late to merge Plan 9, 9front and NIX by applying patches as > the Go Authors do with their stuff? The divergence is probably already too wide for merging with simple patches, but 9front's changes are of course available to anyone. I

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

2011-11-24 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Lucio De Re wrote: >>  I take full responsibility for the misunderstandings, though >> I wonder why we're all so credulous when it comes to articles on >> websites. > > Because that's the point of journalism.  You ought to have made sure > that the community affect

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

2011-11-24 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Lucio De Re wrote: >> I have great respect for Geoff and what he has been and continues to >> do for Plan 9. > > I'd like to add my voice to this.  And I take exception to Schmidt > taking the glory for cwfs, which is Geoff Collyer's work and is not in > any way to

Re: [9fans] Forks of Plan 9 (Was: 9vx instability)

2011-11-24 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Lucio De Re wrote: > Out of curiosity: 9front makes high claims about device drivers, are > these compatible with Plan 9 (and NIX)?  If so, is there a list? A handful of device drivers have been written from scratch. Some devices started working when their PCI IDs

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

2011-11-24 Thread Stanley Lieber
The work of Geoff and everyone inside and outside of Bell Labs who have contributed over the years is greatly appreciated. Obviously, none of us would be here talking about Plan 9 without their contributions. It's because of their hard work that we have a base from which to launch our experiments.

Re: [9fans] native (mostly) go for plan9

2011-10-31 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:32 PM, ron minnich wrote: > Would be interesting if, from 9front, you could: > 9fs sources > bind /n/sources/plan9/386/bin/8c /bin/8c > > and see if it breaks. > > ron Exact same result. -sl

Re: [9fans] native (mostly) go for plan9

2011-10-31 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:50 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Stanley Lieber > wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:41 PM, andrey mirtchovski >>> i'm not seeing this in either 9vx or a plan9 vm... what are compiling on? >> >> 9fr

Re: [9fans] native (mostly) go for plan9

2011-10-31 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:41 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: >> /386/bin/go/8c -Iplan9 -I386 -Iplan9/386 -I . amd64/traceback.c >> 8c 5781: suicide: sys: trap: fault write addr=0x3007ebf4 pc=0x00015e5a >> mk: /386/bin/go/8c -Iplan9 -I386 ...  : exit status=rc 5779: 8c 5781: >> sys: trap: fault writ

Re: [9fans] native (mostly) go for plan9

2011-10-31 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:08 PM, ron minnich wrote: > you forgot to > cd /go/src > . 9setup So did the instructions. :) piro% cat 9setup GOARCH=386 GOOS=plan9 GOVERSION=60.2 GOROOT=/go piro% . 9setup piro% mk install cmd cc ar vu cc.a8 y.tab.8 lex.8 mac.8 dcl.8 acid.8 godefs.8 bits.8 com.8 scon

Re: [9fans] native (mostly) go for plan9

2011-10-31 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:11 AM, ron minnich wrote: [snip] > You can try it. Thanks, Ron. I ran into some problems: piro% cd piro% ls acme.dump bin books dump go gout img lib mkfile paint tmp piro% bind -ac . / piro% cd /go piro% cd 9/prebuilt piro% rc install piro% cd /go/src piro% mk insta

Re: [9fans] Living with Plan 9

2011-06-07 Thread Stanley Lieber
> I note there is a Linux user binary emulation and X11  available. Is it > sufficient > to set up a Linux environment on Plan 9 including all the niceties offered by > Linux modern distribution? Does this completely defeat the purpose of using > Plan9 in the first place ? If it makes sense, I'd a

Re: [9fans] exportfs / u9fs / v9fs / npfs / spfs versus 9vx

2011-05-12 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:52:30AM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote: >> On Thu, 12 May 2011 13:14:55 CDT Stanley Lieber   >> wrote: >> > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/unix/u9fs >> > >>

Re: [9fans] exportfs / u9fs / v9fs / npfs / spfs versus 9vx

2011-05-12 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > Here's my situation: I have a FreeBSD VPS somewhere in the world. I > have 9vx locally. I want to access files on the FreeBSD VPS from my > 9vx running over here. How? > >  - exportfs doesn't exist in p9p. >  - u9fs seems to be defunct; there

Re: [9fans] looking for Virtual Host providers that permit Plan 9

2011-05-09 Thread Stanley Lieber
> 9fans, > > Anyone know of such an animal? > > -Skip Plan 9 is permitted at arpnetworks.com. This is what it took: http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/qemu/arpnetworks -sl

[9fans] (no subject)

2011-04-24 Thread Stanley Lieber
> From: Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan > Subject: suggestion for a video card > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:53:58 -0700 > > hi, > > i am looking for a video card for plan9. > > here are my requirements: > > - should do 1920x1080 at 60Hz so i can connect to my LCD TV via HDMI > - HDMI connector prefe

Re: [9fans] Additional compilers under 9vx.OSX

2011-04-07 Thread Stanley Lieber
> would a better solution be a modification to 9vx to allow it to generate > virtual > disks in a file. Then you could start fossil/kfs/cwfs/pacfs/other in plan9 and > have the same functionality and the ability to have the filesystem work > exactly > like plan9 - permissions, dates, append only

Re: [9fans] video cards for 1920x1080

2011-04-06 Thread Stanley Lieber
>> This post didn't garner a response. A couple of years later, >> I have the same question. Is anyone running Plan 9 native >> at 1920x1080 with an LCD monitor? What video card are you >> using? What tweaks were necessary to get it to work? > > coraid has a terminal doing this using the on-board

[9fans] video cards for 1920x1080

2011-04-06 Thread Stanley Lieber
> From: Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan > Subject: suggestion for a video card > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:53:58 -0700 > > hi, > > i am looking for a video card for plan9. > > here are my requirements: > > - should do 1920x1080 at 60Hz so i can connect to my LCD TV via HDMI > - HDMI connector preferabl

Re: [9fans] hg 1.7.5

2011-03-31 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:49 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > steve stallion refreshed the hg port to plan 9.  we now > have version 1.7.5, and a new record-length 95-page > man page.  ;-) > > if you've already installed bichued's python, the instructions > for getting it installed are > >        ; con

Re: [9fans] troff macros for typesetting books/longer texts

2011-03-22 Thread Stanley Lieber
> Hello everyone, > > please, does somebody know of any troff macros that were used to typeset > books? > Can one get hold of e.g. macros used to typeset e.g. "The AWK > Programming Language" by Aho, Kernighan and Weinberger, or “The Unix > Programming Environment” by Kernighan and Pike? > > I w

Re: [9fans] cpu: can't authenticate: sp: auth_proxy rpc write: bootes: connection refused

2011-03-17 Thread Stanley Lieber
It was suggested by cinap_lenrek to start another factotum immediately after importing the laptop's /net. After doing so, I am able to cpu into sp. -sl

[9fans] cpu: can't authenticate: sp: auth_proxy rpc write: bootes: connection refused

2011-03-17 Thread Stanley Lieber
I routinely cpu into remote servers from my Plan 9 laptop at home. At work, I routinely import the laptop's /net and cpu into those same remote servers using the laptop's Internet connection. (The machine at work has most outgoing connections blocked; I reach the laptop at home over an ssh/tun0 v

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-08 Thread Stanley Lieber
> I broke something bad. Well, I don't think *I* did it but something is > wrong. I can no longer boot my VPS at all. As in, the VNC is refusing > connections (which means the VPS doesn't even begin to boot -- which > means it isn't my fault... probably). I have no confirmation that the > V

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-07 Thread Stanley Lieber
I'm installed. Made a custom boot floppy with the plan9.ini from plan9.iso's boot.img. In addition, one of either *noe820scan=1 or *norealmode=1 were required to avoid the freeze-up mentioned throughout this thread. The floppy's boot menu points to kernels on the plan9.iso that is configured as th

[9fans] off list - Re: recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-07 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jack Norton wrote: > erik quanstrom wrote: >> >> On Sun Mar  6 22:33:33 EST 2011, stanley.lie...@gmail.com wrote: 9atom's 9load prints "%d e820 entries" on boot.  is that number 0? >>> >>> found 7 e8s0 entries >>> >>> Then it freezes. >> >> it's not the e

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-07 Thread Stanley Lieber
>> Also, I really need to thank fgb as he gave me a little tip on irc about >> his modified 9load that allows you to pass new plan9.ini variables at >> boot.  I got disconnected before I could acknowledge.  I haven't tried >> it yet, but it could be useful. > > not quite sure what you mean by this,

Re: [9fans] realemu update

2011-03-07 Thread Stanley Lieber
Cinap suggested invoking realemu in a subshell so that the process exits after aux/vga completes. The following is a patch for the man page. -sl % diff -n -c /sys/man/8/realemu.orig /sys/man/8/realemu /sys/man/8/realemu.orig:84,89 - /sys/man/8/realemu:84,102 the .I srvname argument then it

Re: [9fans] realemu update

2011-03-07 Thread Stanley Lieber
With the latest realemu, graphics and rio are finally working in my VMware Workstation 6.5.1 guest: % aux/vga -m vesa -p vesa flagUlinear|Hlinear vesa sigVESA 2.0 vesa oemV M ware, Inc. VBE support 2.0 2.0 vesa vendor VMware, Inc vesa productVMw

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread Stanley Lieber
> On Sun Mar 6 22:33:33 EST 2011, stanley.lie...@gmail.com wrote: >> > 9atom's 9load prints "%d e820 entries" on boot. is that number 0? >> >> found 7 e8s0 entries >> >> Then it freezes. > > it's not the e820 code, then. it's either falling over initializing the > console, or it's falling ove

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread Stanley Lieber
> 9atom's 9load prints "%d e820 entries" on boot. is that number 0? found 7 e8s0 entries Then it freezes. -sl

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread Stanley Lieber
>> I did indeed ask them to configure 9atom.iso as the CD-ROM and got >> the same results as with plan9.iso. I trusted that the image was switched >> but I'm not sure how I could verify. > > i wasn't assuming that the two setups were identical. let me > know if that's a bad assumption. We're cus

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread Stanley Lieber
>> have you tried the 9load from 9atom? i moved the e820 scan >> to before 9load switches from real mode, which should be >> safer. ftp://ftp.quanstro.net/other/^(9pxeload 9load) >> >> - erik >> >> > I hadn't tried it. I was under the impression that 9atom was tried by > the OP of this thre

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-02 Thread Stanley Lieber
> The --no-kvm-irqchip option on the command line may have solved the problem. This apparently did not work with my host's setup. Same results observed when I halted and rebooted this VPS this morning. The host reports they are running KVM/qemu on Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04. I'm in the process of setting

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-01 Thread Stanley Lieber
> I have plan9 running on a qemu installation, and I had a similiar problem > installing it. > > The --no-kvm-irqchip option on the command line may have solved the problem. > > > I also may have walked away from the machine for 6 hours only to return and > find that it had installed, on

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-01 Thread Stanley Lieber
To recap: I'm attempting to install Plan 9 from a recent .iso on a hosted KVM/qemu account. Both the Bell Labs and 9atom installers die here: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5098/5468343552_28695be1dd_o.png I've managed to obtain the host's KVM config file, in libvirtd XML format: user-2 RE

[9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-02-24 Thread Stanley Lieber
Both the install and live cd kernels die here: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5098/5468343552_28695be1dd_o.png They just stop. Nothing further ever happens. Attached below is the OpenBSD dmesg from the same instance of KVM/qemu Anyone have any ideas on what might be going wrong? -sl --- Open

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD

2011-02-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
> hey is this 64 or 32 bit system? > uname -a? > If you told me that already, sorry, I missed it. > > ron % dmesg | sed 6q OpenBSD 4.9-beta (GENERIC) #625: Fri Jan 14 21:56:02 MST 2011 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3300+ ("Auth

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD

2011-02-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
> It's been a long day and my debugging skills are lukewarm ... > > can you run it with -g -S and see if we get any more useful output? > > ron % ktrace -d ./9vx -r /n/plan9 -u glenda -g -S namec #/ namec #e/terminal namec #e/cputype namec #e/rootdir namec

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD

2011-02-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
>>> % 9vx panic: vxproc_run: Function not implemented > > This sounds like a problem setting up the LDT. > Are you on amd64 or i386? Also, you should run > ktrace with the -d flag so we can see a trace > of the child procs. > > Anthony i386. This made me think to check sysctl.conf, but it's se

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD

2011-02-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Stanley Lieber > wrote: >> Well, it builds, but it doesn't run. >> >> % ./9vx -r /n/plan9 -u glenda >> % 9vx panic: vxproc_run: Function not implemented > > I feel we've been here before. Can you do an strace?

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD

2011-02-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
Well, it builds, but it doesn't run. % ./9vx -r /n/plan9 -u glenda % 9vx panic: vxproc_run: Function not implemented -sl

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD

2011-02-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Stanley Lieber > wrote: >> Reading old 9fans posts, I found Iru's modifications of vx32/9vx to run on >> OpenBSD 4.3. >> With this minor change: >> >> src/9vx/Makefrag:184:       echo 'ulong kerndate ="'

[9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD

2011-02-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
Reading old 9fans posts, I found Iru's modifications of vx32/9vx to run on OpenBSD 4.3. With this minor change: src/9vx/Makefrag:184: echo 'ulong kerndate ="' `date +%s` '";' >9vx/kerndate.h I was able to get it to build on a current snapshot of OpenBSD. Currently untested, but the modif

[9fans] 9atom .iso builds

2011-02-02 Thread Stanley Lieber
Apologies if I've overlooked mention of this, but is there an easy way to determine when a given 9atom .iso was generated? How often are these updated? -sl

Re: [9fans] upas/fs still modifying gmail inbox after window closed

2011-02-01 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Tue Feb  1 12:32:34 EST 2011, stanley.lie...@gmail.com wrote: >> in plan 9: using upas/fs, i mounted my gmail inbox over imap, then >> started acme.  at some point, the acme window disappeared.  newly >> received messages in my gmail inbo

[9fans] upas/fs still modifying gmail inbox after window closed

2011-02-01 Thread Stanley Lieber
in plan 9: using upas/fs, i mounted my gmail inbox over imap, then started acme. at some point, the acme window disappeared. newly received messages in my gmail inbox continue to get marked as read shortly after they arrive. my assumption is that upas/fs is still accessing the mailbox. how can

Re: [9fans] aux/vga -m vesa with pccpuf kernel?

2011-01-21 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:22 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > it is possible that #P is not bound into /dev as in >bind -a '#P' /dev Ah: cpu% ls /dev | grep realmode cpu% But: cpu% ls '#'P '#P/archctl' '#P/cputype' '#P/ioalloc' '#P/iob' '#P/iol' '#P/iow' '#P/irqalloc' '#P/realmode' '#P/r

Re: [9fans] aux/vga -m vesa with pccpuf kernel?

2011-01-20 Thread Stanley Lieber
> Would placing +cur in the next column after vgavesa in the file > /sys/src/9/pc/pccpuf (and recompiling) reenable the vesa driver > for this kernel? Hm, it looks like it is at least being built, already: ls -l |grep vesa --rw-rw-r-- M 3233 glenda sys 6812 Jan 18 05:02 vgavesa.8 --rw-rw-r--

[9fans] aux/vga -m vesa with pccpuf kernel?

2011-01-20 Thread Stanley Lieber
The following settings worked with my system during install and continued to work after rebooting as a terminal: aux/vga -m vesa -l 1024x768x32 Upon compiling pccpuf and rebooting as a standalone auth/cpu server, vesa is no longer accepted: cpu% aux/vga -m vesa -l 1024x768x32 mkvbe: '/dev/realmo

Re: [9fans] uncommon sights

2011-01-20 Thread Stanley Lieber
This was in OpenBSD. Rc went a little out of control when an Inferno emu session aborted, but the script it was launched from stayed in memory. Almost brought the host system to a halt. -sl

[9fans] uncommon sights

2011-01-20 Thread Stanley Lieber
PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE WAIT TIMECPU COMMAND 16051 sl630 480K 356K run - 7:25 71.04% rc 2724 sl 20 489M 503M sleep poll247:00 11.47% firefox-bin -sl

Re: [9fans] plan9 compatible notebook

2011-01-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Jan 15, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > I have a ThinkPad T400. 9atom works with SATA controller in IDE mode > (I think Erik Quanstrom works on making the DVD-RW drive work in AHCI > mode). Never tested sound. Works great :-). > > -- > Aram What about graphics and wifi? What

Re: [9fans] contrib/install fgb/X11?

2010-11-15 Thread Stanley Lieber
For what it's worth, I installed equis via contrib/install about a week ago and it worked. Slow, but everything installed and I was able to use it. -sl

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