Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Anthony Sorace
in the US, CDMA operators (notably Verizon) typically do restrict unblessed devices (where, in many cases, those include supported devices simply not sold by them). this is improving, but remains common. the situation for GSM operators is somewhat better. the GSMA regulations (the industry associa

Re: [9fans] with reference to the earlier plan 9 interns post

2009-02-16 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: > I am a high school student and have a GPA; I know it's higher than 3.2. > What are the requirements for Murray Hill? I'm also interested in the requirements for Murray Hill. > On Feb 13, 2009, at 6:46 PM, jimmy brisson wrote: > > On Fri

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread matt
I don't get why you're dicking around with block sizes but I guess it's just learning :) If these functions don't allow you to create and read/write files in a venti then my current project is screwed - it compiles but I haven't started testing it! venti-file(2) venti-cache(2) vtdial() vtca

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
yes, but can the carrier prevent it (by legal means)?

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread David Arnold
On 16/02/2009, at 2:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: do mobile carriers allow (in a legal sense) unblessed device/OS on their networks? In the Linux-based phones that I'm familiar with, the GSM protocol is implemented as a separate module. It uses a serial interface (and an extended AT comm

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
>> do mobile carriers allow (in a legal sense) unblessed device/OS on >> their networks? > > Do you mean mobile phone manufacturers? i mean network service providers (e.g. T-mobile).

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Juan M. Mendez
2009/2/16 Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com>: > probably need "Android Dev Phone 1" rather than G1. My G1 wasn't a Dev Phone 1, but I put the firmware for a Dev Phone 1. So that can be worked around. > the kernel tree includes firmware for several things. it's not clear > how one would get arou

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread hiro
> do mobile carriers allow (in a legal sense) unblessed device/OS on > their networks? Do you mean mobile phone manufacturers?

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread ron minnich
>> I was reading up on vac and vbackup but they talk about backing up >> file system trees and disks which is not what I am looking for. I don't get this comment. You want to backup a file, right? What about 'file system tree' is incompatible or not what you are looking for? rno

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread lucio
> I was reading up on vac and vbackup but they talk about backing up > file system trees and disks which is not what I am looking for. People are happy to use zip to compress (and archive, but who cares?) a single file, it can't be much different to use vac in the same vein? ++L

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: > do mobile carriers allow (in a legal sense) unblessed device/OS on > their networks? not really. that's why you can get linux source for your moto phone but you can't build a working kernel, much less install it (that'

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
probably need "Android Dev Phone 1" rather than G1. the kernel tree includes firmware for several things. it's not clear how one would get around these: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/common.git;a=blob;f=firmware/WHENCE;h=66c51b275e9e8be1891b5c6c7d3d87ead9db9645;hb=HEAD do mobile carri

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread hiro
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Juan M. Mendez wrote: > 2009/2/16 matt : >> Anyone got an Android / G1 phone? >> >> I'm about to and wondered if there was any feedback, esp. re: Plan 9 ideas? >> >> matt > > > Hi, I have one that I bought through ebay, and updated the firmware to > have root acces

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread anooop . anooop
On Feb 16, 11:20 am, mattmob...@proweb.co.uk (matt) wrote: > I have a few wheel designs here in my basement too, did you mean that I am trying to re-invent the wheel? :-) Please do let me know if there is already some functionality to store and retrieve a single file without breaking up the file

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Juan M. Mendez
2009/2/16 matt : > Anyone got an Android / G1 phone? > > I'm about to and wondered if there was any feedback, esp. re: Plan 9 ideas? > > matt Hi, I have one that I bought through ebay, and updated the firmware to have root access. I'm quite happy with it. Since it's the linux kernel what is under

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread roger peppe
2009/2/16 : > I want to store some big files on venti. size range around 200MB. Is > there any way to do this? maybe i'm being stupid, but isn't that precisely what the vac format (as documented in http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/fossil.pdf) and its block tree structure is there for?

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread erik quanstrom
> I think you will need to rewrite both venti and the > venti protocol to get around the 64k limit. > I started to do this once and decided it was > too large a change to bother. If you don't care > about coalescing duplicate blocks (and you > don't seem to), why not use an extent-based > file sys

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread Russ Cox
> The problem is that I was planning on keeping the number of parts is > fixed. So depending on the file size, the part size will vary. And > therefore sometimes the (part block) that I store will be more than > the current upper limit of 64k. > > It would be great if you could let me know your th

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread matt
This is what I am planning to do. I have a few wheel designs here in my basement too,

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread anooop . anooop
On Feb 16, 9:32 am, quans...@quanstro.net (erik quanstrom) wrote: > > This is what I get when I try to store files of size around 300KB : > > "write: input too big: max block size is 57344" > > this is why god^wken used filesystems. > > try vac(1), fossil(4) or if you need something > esoteric you

Re: [9fans] Venti by another name

2009-02-16 Thread Eris Discordia
I'll know soon enough as I'm in the process of building a Venti store for our video files. I just wondered if anyone had done it already. That kindles in me the bystander's interest. It'd be nice of you to report back on results. --On Monday, February 16, 2009 12:13 PM + matt wrote:

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread erik quanstrom
> This is what I get when I try to store files of size around 300KB : > "write: input too big: max block size is 57344" this is why god^wken used filesystems. try vac(1), fossil(4) or if you need something esoteric you can roll your own filesystem with venti-file(2). - erik

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread erik quanstrom
> The larger the blocksize the less likely you are of coalescing any (or > that's what my intuition says). Sure, there's a tradeoff but the > research has been done already and < 64k blocks looks to have been found > appropriate. what's the goal? the absolute smallest repository or access spee

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Anselm R Garbe wrote: 2009/2/16 matt : Anyone got an Android / G1 phone? A colleague of mine got one, but I'd wait for better hardware if I was you. I'm on the Android phone new product contact lists of a number of Alibaba and Global Sources vendors (Asian manufacturers). Anyone is welcome

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/2/16 matt : > Anyone got an Android / G1 phone? > > I'm about to and wondered if there was any feedback, esp. re: Plan 9 ideas? A colleague of mine got one, but I'd wait for better hardware if I was you. --Anselm

[9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread matt
Anyone got an Android / G1 phone? I'm about to and wondered if there was any feedback, esp. re: Plan 9 ideas? matt

Re: [9fans] Venti by another name

2009-02-16 Thread matt
Can any lossless compression scheme improve on {J,M}PEG? If multiple streams are stored in venti then there may be some common blocks but even that should not significantly surpass RAR algorithm's "solid" archiving of the same streams. Not that I understand these things. Only if there are

Re: [9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread matt
anooop.ano...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I want to store some big files on venti. size range around 200MB. Is there any way to do this? This is what I get when I try to store files of size around 300KB : "write: input too big: max block size is 57344" I was wondering may be if increase the

Re: [9fans] http sources mirror test

2009-02-16 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
Thanks !!! 2009/2/13 erik quanstrom > i put up a very basic mirror of sources. > it has no history, no users and updates > are currently manumatic. but here it > is: >http://sources.coraid.com > > - erik > > -- С наилучшими пожеланиями Жилкин Сергей With best regards Zhilkin Sergey

[9fans] Regarding venti block size

2009-02-16 Thread anooop . anooop
Hello All, I want to store some big files on venti. size range around 200MB. Is there any way to do this? This is what I get when I try to store files of size around 300KB : "write: input too big: max block size is 57344" I was wondering may be if increase the block size in arena partition thi