Obtaining IP address over internet
I wank to VNC to my home PC from work over the internet, My dial-up modem connection is occasionally dropped and the IP address will change every time the PC reconnects. Any suggestion for obtaining my IP address remotely? Thanks Steve Godfrey WAN Team - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: Obtaining IP address over internet
Isn't that illegal ? Simon Howlett NT Server Team -Original Message- From: Steve Godfrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 May 2001 07:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Obtaining IP address over internet I wank to VNC to my home PC from work over the internet, My dial-up modem connection is occasionally dropped and the IP address will change every time the PC reconnects. Any suggestion for obtaining my IP address remotely? Thanks Steve Godfrey WAN Team - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - E mail Disclaimer You agree that you have read and understood this disclaimer and you agree to be bound by its terms. The information contained in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it (if any) are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator or telephone 0191 210 2060 or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any attachments have been scanned for certain viruses prior to sending but neither Northern Electric plc nor any of the companies in the Northern Electric group of companies from whom this e-mail originates shall be liable for any losses as a result of any viruses being passed on. No warranty of any kind is given in respect of any information contained in this e-mail and you should be aware that that it might be incomplete, out of date or incorrect. It is therefore essential that you verify all such information with us before placing any reliance upon it. Northern Electric plc Carliol House Market Street Newcastle-upon-Tyne NE1 6NE Registered in England and Wales: Number 2366942 - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: Obtaining IP address over internet
My typo or obtaining an IP address?!? I hoped no-one would notice that one :-( >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/17/01 10:01am >>> Isn't that illegal ? Simon Howlett NT Server Team -Original Message- From: Steve Godfrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 May 2001 07:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Obtaining IP address over internet I wank to VNC to my home PC from work over the internet, My dial-up modem connection is occasionally dropped and the IP address will change every time the PC reconnects. Any suggestion for obtaining my IP address remotely? Thanks Steve Godfrey WAN Team - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - * *** E mail Disclaimer You agree that you have read and understood this disclaimer and you agree to be bound by its terms. The information contained in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it (if any) are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator or telephone 0191 210 2060 or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any attachments have been scanned for certain viruses prior to sending but neither Northern Electric plc nor any of the companies in the Northern Electric group of companies from whom this e-mail originates shall be liable for any losses as a result of any viruses being passed on. No warranty of any kind is given in respect of any information contained in this e-mail and you should be aware that that it might be incomplete, out of date or incorrect. It is therefore essential that you verify all such information with us before placing any reliance upon it. Northern Electric plc Carliol House Market Street Newcastle-upon-Tyne NE1 6NE Registered in England and Wales: Number 2366942 * *** - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: Obtaining IP address over internet
Huh? How on earth could that be illegal? Okay, the quick solution: Obtain one of those free subdomains (like cjb.net and the likes of it). You could then VNC to that address and wouldn't have to worry about the ip. Of course you would need a client that refreshes the domain IP every now and then. Can't say if it works though, never attemped the likes of it (no free local calls in sweden), but there shouldn't be any problems with it. I however doubt that your system/network adminstrator would like you VNCing from work to your home machine :) /Bjorn, who will attempt the same thing once he can get his hands on a broadband/DSL connection :) > -Original Message- > From: Howlett, Simon (NESL-IT) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: den 17 maj 2001 11:01 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Obtaining IP address over internet > > > Isn't that illegal ? > > Simon Howlett > NT Server Team > > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Godfrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 17 May 2001 07:44 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Obtaining IP address over internet > > I wank to VNC to my home PC from work over the internet, My > dial-up modem > connection is occasionally dropped and the IP address will > change every time > the PC reconnects. Any suggestion for obtaining my IP > address remotely? > > Thanks > > > Steve Godfrey > WAN Team > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - > ** > ** > E mail Disclaimer > > You agree that you have read and understood this disclaimer > and you agree to be bound by its terms. > > The information contained in this e-mail and any files > transmitted with > it (if any) are confidential and intended for the addressee > only. If you have > received this e-mail in error please notify the originator or > telephone > 0191 210 2060 or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This e-mail and any attachments have been scanned for certain > viruses prior to sending but neither Northern Electric plc > nor any of the companies in the Northern Electric group of > companies from whom this e-mail originates shall be liable > for any losses as a result of any viruses being passed on. > > No warranty of any kind is given in respect of any > information contained in this e-mail and you should be aware > that that it might be incomplete, out of date or incorrect. > It is therefore essential that you verify all such > information with us before placing any reliance upon it. > > Northern Electric plc > Carliol House > Market Street > Newcastle-upon-Tyne > NE1 6NE > Registered in England and Wales: Number 2366942 > > > ** > ** > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Argh! HowTo inetd ... script
From: Alex > [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream > which had a name of DOVNC] From: "Seth Kneller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Argh! HowTo inetd ... > Nice Instructions, however, you should have pasted the script into the > body of the message. Sigh ... here it is. #! /bin/bash # # VNC spawning script # === # (c) Quantum Magnetics 2001, GPL # ## # # Find out which session session=${1:-0} if test $session -lt 0 thenexit 1 fi if test $session -gt 0 thenjava="-httpd /usr/share/vncserver -httpport 580$session :$session" logfile=/var/log/vnc-$session.log elsejava="-inetd" logfile=/dev/null fi ## # # Do something sensible with log files if test -f $logfile thenif test -f $logfile.gz thenrm -f $logfile.gz fi gzip $logfile fi ## # # Find out which XDM to contact case "$session" in 2) target="-indirect xdmserver" ;; 1) target="-query appserver" ;; *) target="-query ${2:-localhost}" ;; esac ## # # Actually start the server exec /usr/bin/X11/Xvnc $target $java \ -geometry 800x600 -depth 16 -deferglyphs 16 -dpi 100 \ -dontdisconnect -nevershared -once -terminate \ 2> $logfile - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
asciicircum sent twice
Hi all, I'm using the latest windows vncviewer to view a linux desktop (Xvnc) Everything works fine, except the asciicirum (^) key. When I press the ^ key it shows up twice (^^). Now the strange part: For testing I remap the keycode to x: xmodmap -e "keycode 23 = x" >From then on I get two capital Xs (XX), when I press the ^ key. Can anyone explain this? Since showkeys does not show anything with the -s flag, I conclude, that I do not get scancodes. So I guess the windows-client remaps the scancode to a keycode?? I'm using a german keymap. vncclient says it's keyboard 0407 Can this problem be solved with the -keyboard option? So far.. - Clemens - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
AW: Obtaining IP address over internet
Go to http://www.no-ip.com there you can register and they are exactly your solution (dynamic ip address). You can then download their client and he'll update you're ip automatically. oan -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Steve Godfrey Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Mai 2001 09:44 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Obtaining IP address over internet I wank to VNC to my home PC from work over the internet, My dial-up modem connection is occasionally dropped and the IP address will change every time the PC reconnects. Any suggestion for obtaining my IP address remotely? Thanks Steve Godfrey WAN Team - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Obtaining IP address over internet
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 01:11:38PM +0200, oan wrote: :Go to http://www.no-ip.com there you can register and they are exactly your :solution (dynamic ip address). You can then download their client and he'll :update you're ip automatically. On a similar note, I use http://www.dhs.org for my home machine. Theye don't have theirown client, but there's several that user's have contributed. -Jon - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: remotely installing VNC
> For scripting it, I borrowed the password-encryption of the server code and > wrote a small command-line registry-setting program that will set a > password in the registry (regedit can't do the correct data types for a > .REG import), which is really handy. where can it be found ? - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Obtaining IP address over internet
Steve, >I wank to VNC to my home PC from work over the internet, My dial-up modem >connection is occasionally dropped and the IP address will change every time >the PC reconnects. Any suggestion for obtaining my IP address remotely? Personally, I use the Tzolkin "dynamic DNS" service (http://www.tzo.com). The client came free with my Ugate-3000 broadband gateway, and the service is free for 1 year. -- Jim Millard Kansas City, MO USA http://www.millard.org/ - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: vnc without screen update
We are building something similar for a training application. The clients (there will be many) are viewing the single server. So, we are changing the server to update without the client update request message. Normally, the client runs a continuous loop that requests update, processes update, then repeats. So, there are both client and server changes to your request. The server needs to "push" updates without being requested and the client needs to receive and process them without sending a request. Our solution involves making the server update by assuming a full update was requested and then just having clients process the update as they receive them. Roger Campbell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of minou@ife Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: vnc without screen update Hello At our institute we are interested in a version of vnc which does NOT update the screen on the client side. This because we have different machines sharing the same screen. As there are no switchboxes for unix and window keyboards we use VNC to share mouse and keyboard. Hence we looked in the source files of WinServer and Unix/Linux-Clients. Here we need some help. Who can advice us, which part to change to disable the screen update. Where would be the right address to get some assistance? Actually we are trying to figure out if we better change the WinServer of the UnixClient. Is it right, that the client triggers the screen update, so we could stop the triggering, or does the server automatically send screen update upon reception of keystrokes and mouse movements? (of course we disabled all polling and use 8bit colors only) Help would be very appreciated! thank you - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: remotely installing VNC
> > For scripting it, I borrowed the password-encryption of the server code and > > wrote a small command-line registry-setting program that will set a > > password in the registry (regedit can't do the correct data types for a > > .REG import), which is really handy. > >where can it be found ? Having written it for personal consumption (I didn't even know this list existed at the time, or I'd have asked if anyone already had something that did the same thing!), I haven't made it publicly available. I'll email it to you directly, under separate cover. -- Jim Millard Kansas City, MO USA http://www.millard.org/ - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
VNC vs Tridia
Okay, I've seen many references to the two suites, but I'm looking for something more conclusive. I see that Tridia has more encoding options (adding compression), but AT&T VNC is ported to more platforms. Fine. But as my primary use is 100% "wintel" << yeah, yeah, *nix is much better, but I'm a corporate IT guy that has to support an infrastructure of wintel boxes---cut me some slack, OK ;-) >> and both suites exist for that platform, I'd *really* like to know why some of you have mixed installations. Basically, if you're using Tridia to get better WAN/dialup inet performance, why keep AT&T VNC around for the LAN side? What's to be gained by a mixed VNC infrastructure? -- Jim Millard Kansas City, MO USA http://www.millard.org/ - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
omnithread_rt.dll
I've been successful running WinVNC and omnithread_rt.dll in the same directory, rather than copying the DLL to %winroot%\system or %winroot%\system32. Is there a good reason why the installer still insists on putting the DLL in the system directory? -- Jim Millard Kansas City, MO USA http://www.millard.org/ - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: HELP me please, vnc on windows nt but the users always close the vnc client
Dan, I'm looking for a way to run VNC in stealth mode so it doesn't appear on the SysTray. I'd rather not turn off the entire system tray. Is that possible? We are in an all Windows environment (win 95 clients and Win NT servers) Joe Campbell Express-1, Inc. Buchanan, Michigan 49107 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dan Frantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: HELP me please, vnc on windows nt but the users always close the vnc client Hey, what I did was a little in depth, but then again, I kind of taylor-fit VNC to my needs. I work for a call center, and the supervisors wanted visual monitoring capabilities. I proposed VNC, and they loved it. It had 3 problems though: 1) no simple way to disable password checking (without a dialog box warning msg) 2) Users could exit VNC and/or kill all connected clients, mess w/properties, etc 3) tray icon changed colours when people connected. It was a bit tricky, but I got all three "problems" fixed. 1) Set "AuthRequired" to 0 so no password was necessary 2) A little more difficult, but I had first set it so no one could change properties, then I made some registry changes using "AllowProperties" and "AllowShutdown". Then I wised up, and discovered I can set it for certain users to have access to shutting down and changing properties by specifying them in the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\] key. (I set the whole IT dept up to be able to shutdown/change properties) 3) a bit more involved, but while editing the source so the silly "warning, password blank, blah blah blah" warning dialog box didn't pop-up (it's nested in an "if,then,else" statement...just remove the "else" part and it compiles fine)I also changed the tray icon to be white at all times (replaced the black/green icon with a copy of the normal icon) Yeah, a bit more difficult and drawn out then what Jason Powell suggested, but I wanted to keep the tray icon so I could quickly see who had VNC and who did not :) If you want a copy of the regkeys I used, email me back __ Dan Frantz, CNA - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Vnc server on Unix
Hi ! Sorry for my english, i' m swiss-french ! I' ve a question, i start vncserver ok ! i start vncviewer for windows, and i see only the terminal and not my x-windows ? Have you a idea for me ? Thanks, Nicolas Sciboz - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: vnc without screen update
Look for x2vnc. It's fairly old, but it works fine. I am using it right now to use the same (Unix) keyboard for a Solaris system and a Windows NT system sitting on my desktop. According to minou@ife: > Hello > > At our institute we are interested in a version of vnc which does NOT update > the screen on the client side. > This because we have different machines sharing the same screen. As there > are no switchboxes for unix > and window keyboards we use VNC to share mouse and keyboard. > > Hence we looked in the source files of WinServer and Unix/Linux-Clients. > Here we need some help. > Who can advice us, which part to change to disable the screen update. Where > would be the right > address to get some assistance? > > Actually we are trying to figure out if we better change the WinServer of > the UnixClient. Is it right, that > the client triggers the screen update, so we could stop the triggering, or > does the server automatically > send screen update upon reception of keystrokes and mouse movements? > > (of course we disabled all polling and use 8bit colors only) > > > Help would be very appreciated! > > > thank you > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - -- Grant McDorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sr. Software Design Consultant Cedara Software Corp. http://www.cedara.com> (formerly I.S.G. Technologies Inc.) Mississauga, Ontario, Canada [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC vs Tridia
I use them both and since they interoperate very well, it does not seem to be a pain to have them both around. On my Windows box, for instance, both versions of the client share most of the same config and register settings so I can pop back and forth between both versions with little hassle. > Okay, I've seen many references to the two suites, but I'm looking for > something more conclusive. > > I see that Tridia has more encoding options (adding compression), but AT&T > VNC is ported to more platforms. Fine. But as my primary use is 100% > "wintel" << yeah, yeah, *nix is much better, but I'm a corporate IT guy > that has to support an infrastructure of wintel boxes---cut me some slack, > OK ;-) >> and both suites exist for that platform, I'd *really* like to > know why some of you have mixed installations. Basically, if you're using > Tridia to get better WAN/dialup inet performance, why keep AT&T VNC around > for the LAN side? What's to be gained by a mixed VNC infrastructure? - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
re: nmap to port 6001 kills vnc session...
Mike: Hello! I'm sorry that my suggestions don't sound appealing to you. It sounds like you found a potential weakness in a VNC system, but are dis-inclined to gather more data about the particulars. My experience with open source projects over the years is that the person who calls in the fire is often expected to help aim the hose. :) Regarding those real-world nmap scans, and those port-53 DNS scans (the Lion worm, was it?) that securityfocus.com reported as originating in China somewhere...there is, from my POV, a big difference. Certainly, I didn't mean to imply that either of them is unimportant and shouldn't be worried about. However, it is important IMO to distinguish between the relative threat level, and that does include taking stock of the frequency of occurrence. Like you, I get keyhole scanned several times a day, people looking for Sub-7 or RPC or whatever. In fact, my own ISP scans me for running an NNTP server at least once a day. :) Yet...I don't think I've ever been nmap'd into a denial of service. Though there was that time when I unleased a Nessus scan on my firewall from www.vulnerabilities.org, just to see what'd happen. Ug. Which gets to your original question: no, until your post, I've never heard that Xvnc can be DoS'd with an nmap scan. I'd be very much interested, as you would be, if that could be confirmed. I don't run Xvnc here, so all the help I can offer has been. Good luck! cheers, Scott On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mike Miller wrote: > On Wed, 16 May 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: > > > > If I run nmap on another machine as follows: > > > > > > nmap -p 6001 host.machine > > > > Instead of running nmap on all those ports (the -p , > > without the number, scans all the low numbered ports <1024, plus any > > that come with the nmap config files) have you tried just running it > > against the 5801/5901 ports? That'd be interesting to see if it > > crashed your Xvnc again. > > I haven't tried it, but I don't like to crash it. Maybe someone else can > try it. > > > > > This is a very serious problem because it means that a port scan will > > > kill my VNC session. This has happened to me more than once, but I > > > didn't realize it until I scanned myself. It means that anyone in the > > > world can block my use of VNC. > > > > > > If there is some way I can protect myself, please let me know. > > > > Actually, in my experience, an nmap scan like this is rather > > unlikely in the "real world". > > Like you, I'm in the "real world." It happens sometimes. If by > 'unlikely' you mean that it doesn't happen often, I agree. If you mean > "unlikely to happen ever," then I disagree. Lately I've been getting > scans like this from China. As you suggested, they are not subtle. I > monitor several machines, so almost nothing seems subtle to me. The fact > that their activities are obvious doesn't seem to worry most of these > attackers. > > Yes, I could put up a firewall. > > This brings me to my original question: Is port 60xx DoS attack a known > VNC problem? > > (I'm not criticizing VNC.) > > Mike - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Connecting to my (small) office network (ADSL problem?)
VNC is a great programme! But: how can I connect to my office network? I have 3 computers, permanently connected with ethernetcards and to the internet (an ADSL connected). According to WIN VNC, my IP-address is 10.0.0.10, 194.109.244.216, 1.0.0.1 (the first computer in the network, that is). I am not able to connect, for some reason. (I can reach the computer when it is directly connected to the internet by modem). I looked through the mailing list archives, but didn't find an answer. (Or maybe I did, but didn't understand!) Maybe someone can help? Or do you know of a programme I should use instead? jan -- "Half of what I say is meaningless, but I say it just to reach you..." Werk: Jan Bletz Teksten & Onderzoek/Info Pro Vossiusstraat 50, 1071 AK Amsterdam Tel: 020-4707444/0653-213324 Fax: 020-4707445 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Privi: Zeeburgerkade 764, 1019 HT Amsterdam Tel: 020-6635844 Fax: 020-4707445 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Info Pro: www.xs4all.nl/~jan, eYe: www.eyesite.nl, PartInvest: www.partinvest.nl, Freeler: www.freeler.nl Afspraak maken? Zie http://calendar.yahoo.com/public/janbletz voor mijn planning. Want to make an appointment? See http://calendar.yahoo.com/public/janbletz for my schedule. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC vs Tridia
>> I see that Tridia has more encoding options (adding compression), but AT&T >> VNC is ported to more platforms. Fine. But as my primary use is 100% >> "wintel" << yeah, yeah, *nix is much better, but I'm a corporate IT guy >> that has to support an infrastructure of wintel boxes---cut me some slack, >> OK ;-) >> and both suites exist for that platform, I'd *really* like to >> know why some of you have mixed installations. Basically, if you're using >> Tridia to get better WAN/dialup inet performance, why keep AT&T VNC around >> for the LAN side? What's to be gained by a mixed VNC infrastructure? Handy to have Tridia Server installed so that external/slow access can use the Tridia Client and get compression. Internal/fast access users will probably prefer the floppy-sized AT&T installer (or, even better, simply copying the ~115KB viewer executable) over the 5-6MB Tridia installer (which also installs a Java runtime just to execute its install script, and leaves it around so that it can execute its uninstall script later). Technically, if you only want the viewer, the Tridia Client can also be "installed" by simply copying the executable, but some people prefer to have a "real" install program... That's about the only thing I can think of. Mac _ /"\ Mac Reiter\ /ASCII Ribbon Campaign Nomadics, Inc. X Against HTML Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ (To join the campaign, simply use this in your signature.) - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
re: nmap to port 6001 kills vnc session...
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: > Hello! I'm sorry that my suggestions don't sound appealing to > you. It sounds like you found a potential weakness in a VNC system, > but are dis-inclined to gather more data about the particulars. My > experience with open source projects over the years is that the person > who calls in the fire is often expected to help aim the hose. :) I'm sorry that I seemed ungrateful. I was hoping for one of the developers to respond. Thanks for getting back to me. So I did what you wanted and tried nmap to 5801 and to 5901. Neither had any effect on the operation of Xvnc. It's only 6001. Now what I really mean is that VNC running on display :1 is destroyed when I nmap port 6001, but VNC for display :7 is destroyed if I nmap port 6007. What I mean by 'destroyed' is that if vncviewer was showing that display, it immediately stops taking input, and if vncviewer wasn't up, it can no longer connect to the server at all (for that display). > Like you, I get keyhole scanned several times a day, people > looking for Sub-7 or RPC or whatever. In fact, my own ISP scans me for > running an NNTP server at least once a day. :) Yet...I don't think > I've ever been nmap'd into a denial of service. I have. From China about two weeks ago. They sent 30,214 packets. (Maybe they checked that many ports, but my iplog doesn't keep track of all of it.) As you said, it was not subtle. See appended info. They managed to crack into my machine, but in a fairly lame way (as daemon but not as root), so I got rid of them easily. > Which gets to your original question: no, until your post, I've > never heard that Xvnc can be DoS'd with an nmap scan. I'd be very much > interested, as you would be, if that could be confirmed. I don't run > Xvnc here, so all the help I can offer has been. Thanks. Mike May 5 10:15:59 ICMP: echo from 202.103.98.115 (16 bytes) May 5 10:15:59 TCP: tcpmux connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4104 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 2 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4105 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 3 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4106 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 4 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4107 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 5 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4108 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 6 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4109 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 8 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4111 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 10 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4113 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: systat connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4114 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 12 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4115 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 14 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4117 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: netstat connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4118 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 16 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4119 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 18 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4121 May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port scan detected from 202.103.98.115 May 5 10:36:29 TCP: port scan mode expired for 202.103.98.115 - received a total of 30214 packets (845992 bytes). - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Connecting to my (small) office network (ADSL problem?)
Jan, >But: how can I connect to my office network? I have 3 computers, >permanently connected with ethernetcards and to the internet (an ADSL >connected). According to WIN VNC, my IP-address is 10.0.0.10, >194.109.244.216, 1.0.0.1 (the first computer in the network, that is). I am >not able to connect, for some reason. (I can reach the computer when it is >directly connected to the internet by modem). it's not clear how your office network is addressed, nor the connection or route between client and server machines (the 10.x.x.x address isn't publicly routed, and the 1.x.x.x isn't likely a legal one either). -- Jim Millard Kansas City, MO USA http://www.millard.org/ - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Connecting to my (small) office network (ADSL problem?)
Thank you! But how do you find out what the right address is?!? According to my provider, it is 194.109.244.216. But if I enter this address, VNC doesn't find it. That's progress for you! jan At 12:36 PM 5/17/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Jan, > >>But: how can I connect to my office network? I have 3 computers, >>permanently connected with ethernetcards and to the internet (an ADSL >>connected). According to WIN VNC, my IP-address is 10.0.0.10, >>194.109.244.216, 1.0.0.1 (the first computer in the network, that is). I am >>not able to connect, for some reason. (I can reach the computer when it is >>directly connected to the internet by modem). > >it's not clear how your office network is addressed, nor the connection or >route between client and server machines (the 10.x.x.x address isn't >publicly routed, and the 1.x.x.x isn't likely a legal one either). >-- >Jim Millard >Kansas City, MO USA >http://www.millard.org/ >- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >- -- "Half of what I say is meaningless, but I say it just to reach you..." Werk: Jan Bletz Teksten & Onderzoek/Info Pro Vossiusstraat 50, 1071 AK Amsterdam Tel: 020-4707444/0653-213324 Fax: 020-4707445 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Privi: Zeeburgerkade 764, 1019 HT Amsterdam Tel: 020-6635844 Fax: 020-4707445 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Info Pro: www.xs4all.nl/~jan, eYe: www.eyesite.nl, PartInvest: www.partinvest.nl, Freeler: www.freeler.nl Afspraak maken? Zie http://calendar.yahoo.com/public/janbletz voor mijn planning. Want to make an appointment? See http://calendar.yahoo.com/public/janbletz for my schedule. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Connecting to my (small) office network (ADSL problem?)
Jan, >But how do you find out what the right address is?!? According to my >provider, it is 194.109.244.216. But if I enter this address, VNC doesn't >find it. > >That's progress for you! Which machine/device/host has the 194.109.x.x address? If your provider is giving it to you, then that's ONE address, although you mention 3 boxes in your first post. Is that address assigned to a broadband router, or your own machine (with a DSL "modem")? What's the IP of the other machines you mention? Are either one a machine you want to run the client from, or is there a 4th machine in the mix? Before you worry about getting VNC to connect, you need to make sure that the machines in question can route to each other: can you ping from one to the other (and vice-versa)? Are there any firewalls or NAT/NPT'ing gateways that're filtering inbound traffic? -- Jim Millard Kansas City, MO USA http://www.millard.org/ - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: nmap to port 6001 kills vnc session...
Mike Miller wrote: > On Wed, 16 May 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: > > > > If I run nmap on another machine as follows: > > > > > > nmap -p 6001 host.machine > > > > Instead of running nmap on all those ports (the -p , > > without the number, scans all the low numbered ports <1024, plus any > > that come with the nmap config files) have you tried just running it > > against the 5801/5901 ports? That'd be interesting to see if it > > crashed your Xvnc again. > > I haven't tried it, but I don't like to crash it. Maybe someone else can > try it. > Mike, I did against a couple of my Linux boxes and had no problems, whether the viewer was open or not. > > This brings me to my original question: Is port 60xx DoS attack a known > VNC problem? > > (I'm not criticizing VNC.) > Really, I've nmapped machines running vnc all the time -- that's how I noticed I was running one I didn't aim to be running the other day. I've never seen one crash due to the nmap. RPM tells me I have vnc-3.3.3r2-4 for what it's worth. Michael Procter [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Connecting to my (small) office network (ADSL problem?)
> But how do you find out what the right address is?!? According to my > provider, it is 194.109.244.216. But if I enter this address, VNC doesn't > find it. If you have DSL, there is a very good chance you have a DSL modem/firewall. And this device is probably performing NAT: Network Address translation. If that's the case, two things have to be done: 1) you have to know the real, public IP address of your network (that may be the 194.x.x.x address) 2) your DSL modem/firewall must recognize the incoming VNC connections and redirect them to the internal IP addresses. I think the first step is to go to your ISP and ask them your public IP address(es), and whether you have NAT, and if so, whether your firewall can be configured to redirect (aka port forwarding). Quick explanation of NAT: your PCs each have a unique IP address, often in the 192.168.0.x range (but in your case probly the 10.0.0.x range) your DSL router has two sides: a public (external) side and a private (internal) side on the public side it has a real public Internet IP address on the private side it has a private ('fake') IP address in the same range as your PCs (maybe 10.0.0.1) for every packet going through the firewall, the firewall converts the IP addresses public <--> private this provides 2 benefits: - even though you have 3 PCs your ISP only utilizes 1 IP address (and they are becoming scarce) - protection from crackers Think of this like an office phone system. You could have 100 different internal numbers (extensions) but only 1 phone line. -Lee Allen > At 12:36 PM 5/17/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >Jan, > > > >>But: how can I connect to my office network? I have 3 computers, > >>permanently connected with ethernetcards and to the internet (an ADSL > >>connected). According to WIN VNC, my IP-address is 10.0.0.10, > >>194.109.244.216, 1.0.0.1 (the first computer in the network, that is). I am > >>not able to connect, for some reason. (I can reach the computer when it is > >>directly connected to the internet by modem). > > > >it's not clear how your office network is addressed, nor the connection or > >route between client and server machines (the 10.x.x.x address isn't > >publicly routed, and the 1.x.x.x isn't likely a legal one either). - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Connecting to my (small) office network (ADSL problem?)
Lee Allen wrote: > > > But how do you find out what the right address is?!? According to my > > provider, it is 194.109.244.216. But if I enter this address, VNC doesn't > > find it. > > If you have DSL, there is a very good chance you have a DSL modem/firewall. > And this device is probably performing NAT: Network Address translation. If > that's the case, two things have to be done: > 1) you have to know the real, public IP address of your network (that may > be the 194.x.x.x address) > 2) your DSL modem/firewall must recognize the incoming VNC connections and > redirect them to the internal IP addresses. > > I think the first step is to go to your ISP and ask them your public IP > address(es), and whether you have NAT, and if so, whether your firewall can > be configured to redirect (aka port forwarding). > > Quick explanation of NAT: > your PCs each have a unique IP address, often in the 192.168.0.x range (but > in your case probly the 10.0.0.x range) > your DSL router has two sides: a public (external) side and a private > (internal) side > on the public side it has a real public Internet IP address > on the private side it has a private ('fake') IP address in the same range > as your PCs (maybe 10.0.0.1) > for every packet going through the firewall, the firewall converts the IP > addresses public <--> private > this provides 2 benefits: > - even though you have 3 PCs your ISP only utilizes 1 IP address (and they > are becoming scarce) > - protection from crackers > > Think of this like an office phone system. You could have 100 different > internal numbers (extensions) but only 1 phone line. > > -Lee Allen > > > At 12:36 PM 5/17/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > >Jan, > > > > > >>But: how can I connect to my office network? I have 3 computers, > > >>permanently connected with ethernetcards and to the internet (an ADSL > > >>connected). According to WIN VNC, my IP-address is 10.0.0.10, > > >>194.109.244.216, 1.0.0.1 (the first computer in the network, that is). I > am > > >>not able to connect, for some reason. (I can reach the computer when it > is > > >>directly connected to the internet by modem). > > > > > >it's not clear how your office network is addressed, nor the connection > or > > >route between client and server machines (the 10.x.x.x address isn't > > >publicly routed, and the 1.x.x.x isn't likely a legal one either). Just guessing... -|--|---ppp0 10.0.0.138 10.0.0.xxx194.109.244.216 adsl modem eth0 192.1.0.xxx (LAN) eth1 Ok, I'm not that smart: this is what I have. An account with 4 (routable) IP adresses is also possible (adsl fast old? style). Jan, I think you should bind WinVNC to the dial-up interface. -- Harmen http://www1.tip.nl/~t515027/ - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: nmap to port 6001 kills vnc session...
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Michael Procter wrote: > Mike, I did against a couple of my Linux boxes and had no problems, > whether the viewer was open or not. Thanks. I tried a different Sun and it did *not* crash. That Sun is running Solaris 2.5.1 while the others were running Solaris 2.6. All machines are running Xvnc v3.3.3, so I guess it's a problem with Solaris 2.6, unless it's a difference in something that was used to compile Xvnc. I think I compiled all of the Xvncs myself. > Really, I've nmapped machines running vnc all the time -- that's how I > noticed I was running one I didn't aim to be running the other day. > I've never seen one crash due to the nmap. RPM tells me I have > vnc-3.3.3r2-4 for what it's worth. Thanks. I guess it's a Solaris 2.6 problem. I'll let you all know if I ever figure out more than that. Regards, Mike - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Connecting to my (small) office network (ADSL problem?)
Harmen van der Wal wrote: > > Jan, I think you should bind WinVNC to the dial-up interface. > Sorry, that is probably incorrect. Please ignore. -- Harmen http://www1.tip.nl/~t515027/ - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: HELP me please, vnc on windows nt but the users always close the vnc client
TridaVNC does this.. FYI William - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: nmap to port 6001 kills vnc session...
600x is the X server port. It has known vunerabilities (XFree86, for example had a simple one-packet DoS attack on its port; this is probably still present in Xvnc, since it's based on XFree86). The X security is not very strong, either; what's more, people often turn it off (the command 'xhost +'). Unless you are sending X traffic through the Internet, I would suggest that you do not open those ports through your firewall. You certainly don't need them open if you're using only a VNC viewer remotely. According to Mike Miller: > On Thu, 17 May 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: > > > Hello! I'm sorry that my suggestions don't sound appealing to > > you. It sounds like you found a potential weakness in a VNC system, > > but are dis-inclined to gather more data about the particulars. My > > experience with open source projects over the years is that the person > > who calls in the fire is often expected to help aim the hose. :) > > I'm sorry that I seemed ungrateful. I was hoping for one of the > developers to respond. Thanks for getting back to me. > > So I did what you wanted and tried nmap to 5801 and to 5901. Neither had > any effect on the operation of Xvnc. It's only 6001. > > Now what I really mean is that VNC running on display :1 is destroyed when > I nmap port 6001, but VNC for display :7 is destroyed if I nmap port 6007. > What I mean by 'destroyed' is that if vncviewer was showing that display, > it immediately stops taking input, and if vncviewer wasn't up, it can no > longer connect to the server at all (for that display). > > > > Like you, I get keyhole scanned several times a day, people > > looking for Sub-7 or RPC or whatever. In fact, my own ISP scans me for > > running an NNTP server at least once a day. :) Yet...I don't think > > I've ever been nmap'd into a denial of service. > > I have. From China about two weeks ago. They sent 30,214 packets. > (Maybe they checked that many ports, but my iplog doesn't keep track of > all of it.) As you said, it was not subtle. See appended info. They > managed to crack into my machine, but in a fairly lame way (as daemon but > not as root), so I got rid of them easily. > > > > Which gets to your original question: no, until your post, I've > > never heard that Xvnc can be DoS'd with an nmap scan. I'd be very much > > interested, as you would be, if that could be confirmed. I don't run > > Xvnc here, so all the help I can offer has been. > > Thanks. > > Mike > > > May 5 10:15:59 ICMP: echo from 202.103.98.115 (16 bytes) > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: tcpmux connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4104 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 2 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4105 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 3 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4106 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 4 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4107 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 5 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4108 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 6 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4109 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 8 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4111 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 10 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4113 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: systat connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4114 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 12 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4115 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 14 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4117 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: netstat connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4118 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 16 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4119 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port 18 connection attempt from 202.103.98.115:4121 > May 5 10:15:59 TCP: port scan detected from 202.103.98.115 > May 5 10:36:29 TCP: port scan mode expired for 202.103.98.115 - received a total of 30214 packets (845992 bytes). > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - -- -Grant "Kamisama" McDorman, Senor Software Design Tipster[1], Advanced AppleCations [1] Consultant: A tipster disguised as an oracle, especially one who has learned to decamp at high speed in spite of the large briefcase and heavy wallet. - Stan Kelly-Bootle, _The Devil's DP Dictionary_ Fortune Cookie of the Moment: People will accept your ideas much more readily if you tell them that Benjamin Franklin said it first. [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
How to install VNC on remote machine
I need to install a GUI interface to a W2000 Pro machine so I can administrate it remotely. I think that VNC will be possible to use, since I cannot use Terminal Server because the machine is a workstation and not a server. The problem I have is that it is 6000 miles away and I can only get to it through a VPN tunnel over the Internet. I have already installed Remote Console so I can get to a command prompt on that machine and I can map drive letters to the admin shares C$ and D$. So basically I can do whatever is possible in the way of copying files and giving command line commands. But I cannot run an InstallShield setup.exe program to get the VNC server installed, because that is a GUI thing. Catch 22! So my question is: Is it possible to install the VNC server on that machine without physically travelling overseas to its keyboard? If so, how is it accomplished?? Obviously I am the admin of that machine. /Bo Berglund - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RedHat 7.0 and VNC
Hello, The problems continue ... I've managed to get VNC running on Solaris 8 and RedHat 6.2 and still have Solaris 2.6 and RedHat 7.0. I haven't started the Solaris 2.6 yet, but the RedHat 7.0 machine is giving me quite the fits. RedHat 7.0 is running xinetd and I converted my inetd.conf entry to the xinetd format with a script inetdconvert. I'm unable to resolve the "invalid protocol" error. I thought I saw a post about IPv6 causing this problem but am unable to locate it. Am I headed in the right direction? Thanks, Brian Street. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Obtaining IP address over internet
Try a free e-mailing client that can sent a e-mail message to you with your ip address. you can have your pc create a text file with the ip address by using the command /? at the end of the winipcfg or ipconfig command. Use the > symbol followed by the file name you want created: for example dir >c:\dir.txt will create the text file showing the directory list Rob >From: "Steve Godfrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Obtaining IP address over internet >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:44:00 +0100 > >I wank to VNC to my home PC from work over the internet, My dial-up modem >connection is occasionally dropped and the IP address will change every >time >the PC reconnects. Any suggestion for obtaining my IP address remotely? > >Thanks > > >Steve Godfrey >WAN Team >- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >- _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: How to install VNC on remote machine
>So my question is: >Is it possible to install the VNC server on that machine without physically >travelling overseas to its keyboard? >If so, how is it accomplished?? 1) install the package to your own local machine 2) start the WinVNC server with the password you want on the remote machine 3) copy the contents of the local directory to the remote machine 4) copy %windir%\system32\omnithread_rt.dll to the remote machine 5) on the remote console, run "winvnc -install" (no quotes) 6) using regedt32, open the remote machine's registry and copy *exactly* the following registry entry from your box (you'll have to create some keys): Key: HKLM\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default Value: Password Type: BINARY Content: password hash from your machine 7) on the remote console, run 'net start "vnc server"' It should let you connect just fine. You'll end up with all the defaults because the only thing you "pre set" was the password, but once you're on it via GUI, you can further refine the settings using the GUI dialog box. >Obviously I am the admin of that machine. > >/Bo Berglund >- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >- -- Jim Millard +--+ Kansas City, MO http://www.millard.org/ - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Obtaining IP address over internet
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Rob Cornelius wrote: > Try a free e-mailing client that can sent a e-mail message to you with > your ip address. you can have your pc create a text file with the ip > address by using the command /? at the end of the winipcfg or ipconfig > command. > > Use the > symbol followed by the file name you want created: > > for example dir >c:\dir.txt will create the text file showing the > directory list On Win98 (what I'm using), I'd have to use this command: winipcfg /Batch c:\dir.txt the /? is not supported, but with /Batch, no redirection is needed, it goes straight to the file. If no name is given, it goes to winipcfg.out in the default directory. Mike - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -