Re: Remove Packages From _dnf_local

[Samuel Sieb]

On 10/24/24 3:02 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 24/10/24 20:43, Barry wrote:

What does dnf repolist show you have?

If it lists a _dnf_local then show us what its repo file has in it.

dnf repolist
repo id 
  repo name
_dnf_local 
 


As mentioned in a previous message, could you possibly have installed 
the dnf local plugin at some point?

rpm -qa | grep dnf-plugin

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Re: How to install new kernels in grub?

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 10/24/24 14:27, Jonathan Billings wrote:

On Oct 23, 2024, at 23:57, ToddAndMargo via users 
 wrote:


Hi All,

$ rpm -qa kernel
kernel-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64
kernel-6.11.3-100.fc39.x86_64
kernel-6.11.4-201.fc40.x86_64

Problem, only the 38 kernel shows in grub.

How do I get the 40 kernel to show in grub?

Yours in confusion,
-T


In general, you let dnf do it for you. If it is broken, you have bigger fish to 
fry.

As you recall, I asked you about kernels showing up in /boot/efi, this is one 
of the cases where dnf is operating correctly, but due to local configuration, 
dnf installs the vmlinuz files in the wrong place. It sounds like there’s 
something similar going on for you, a piece of the kernel package post-install 
is failing.

A good thing to try is to run “dnf reinstall kernel-core” and see if you see 
any errors. Also check if new files are installed in /boot and 
/boot/loader/entries/. Check the logs in /var/log, there are a bunch of 
dnf-specific logs.

At this point I’m not even sure what version of Fedora you are running, since 
it’s a toss-up on what package of dnf you are using. It’s like assembling a 
jigsaw puzzle through the phone, speaking to someone who is in a dark room. 
Neither of us know what piece is being fit.

  It’s up to you to figure out what’s going on, use your consulting skills to 
determine the fault, and when to call it and reinstall.




I am drawn away for a few days.  But I though I'd send you this:

# df -kPT /boot/efi
Filesystem Type 1024-blocks   Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/nvme0n1p1 vfat  204580 195028  9552  96% /boot/efi


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snap update via discover fails today F40

[Neal Becker]

Just ran discover update.  It says
core 20 base snap
update available, but the update fails, with the error dialog
"snap has no updates available"

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Re: How to install new kernels in grub?

[Felix Miata]

ToddAndMargo via users composed on 2024-10-24 16:34 (UTC-0700):

> I am drawn away for a few days.  But I though I'd send you this:

> # df -kPT /boot/efi
> Filesystem Type 1024-blocks   Used Available Capacity Mounted on
> /dev/nvme0n1p1 vfat  204580 195028  9552  96% /boot/efi

This is evidence that suggests there may have been kernel installations for a
systemd-boot configured system that in fact is a grub configured system. Kernels
on a systemd-boot configured system are installed on an ESP partition, which
mounts to /boot/efi/, and requires a significantly larger ESP partition to fit
kernels and initrds than an ESP for use only for several or less smaller grub
file(s) and/or similarly small Windows bootloader files.
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Re: Remove Packages From _dnf_local

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2024-10-25 at 09:09 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> I don't want to turn off 
> sending in html because that will impact all emails I send, and 
> Thunderbird doesn't have the option any more to tailor those options for 
> specific addresses.

Both that message and your previous one *do* have a text/plain section
(I assume TBird can show you the raw message, but if not then the Gmail
web interface can show it if you select "Show Original"), so maybe
whatever it was is now fixed.

poc
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Re: KDE not Remaining Active at Startup

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2024-10-25 at 09:19 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 25/10/24 09:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 11:40 -0400, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
> > > On 10/24/24 9:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 07:48 -0400, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
> > > > > > You can also of course use the execrable HyperKitty web interface,
> > > > > > which I cordially detest.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > poc
> > > > > Test sends a bounce message that my emails have been received but I
> > > > > don't get any of the replies unless I use HYPERKITTY. NONE OF THE
> > > > > ACTIVITY ON THE LIST COMES TO THE EMAIL.
> > > > If you mean your mail to the list maintainers has been received (not
> > > > bounced) then have a little patience. As a list maintainer myself (on
> > > > the Evolution list) I know it can take a while to get round to
> > > > answering some queries. It's not like it's a full-time job.
> When I went to subscribe the interface told me accounts are now handle 
> by FAS, and that interface specified that I needed to create and account 
> or I could specify an email address to register without creating an account.
> 
> regards,
> Steve
> 
> > > > 
> > > > poc
> > > Thu, Oct 24 at 8:12 AM
> > > Hello from Fedora mailing-lists!
> > > 
> > > You are receiving this e-mail because you or someone else has requested a
> > > password for your user account. However, we do not have any record of a 
> > > user
> > > with email mcfo...@bellsouth.net in our database.
> > > 
> > > This mail can be safely ignored if you did not request a password reset.
> > > 
> > > If it was you, you can sign up for an account using the link below.
> > > 
> > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/accounts/signup/
> > > 
> > > Thank you for using Fedora mailing-lists!
> > > lists.fedoraproject.org
> > > 
> > > Here I get into a loop
> > > 
> > > Account creation for the Fedora mailing-lists is done by creating an
> > > account in FAS .
> > > 
> > > Created an account but from the account page there is no way to access
> > > the list
> > I can see a number of messages mcfo...@bellsouth.net on the list, so at
> > some point the address was subscribed to the list. If it no longer
> > exists then it must have been removed, either by accident or
> > intentionally. That would explain the message you're getting, which is
> > clearly an automated response from the list software, not a personal
> > reply from the list maintainers (users-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org).
> > They are the only ones who can help in restoring the missing address.
> > 
> > In your original post you mentioned subscribing a new email address
> > without creating an account. I don't understand what you mean by that.
> > AFAIK subscribing to the Users list doesn't require you to create any
> > kind of account.

I didn't say anything about subscribing. I said to write directly to
the list maintainers at the address I gave.

poc
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Re: KDE not Remaining Active at Startup

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 07:48 -0400, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
> > You can also of course use the execrable HyperKitty web interface,
> > which I cordially detest.
> > 
> > poc
> 
> Test sends a bounce message that my emails have been received but I 
> don't get any of the replies unless I use HYPERKITTY. NONE OF THE 
> ACTIVITY ON THE LIST COMES TO THE EMAIL.

If you mean your mail to the list maintainers has been received (not
bounced) then have a little patience. As a list maintainer myself (on
the Evolution list) I know it can take a while to get round to
answering some queries. It's not like it's a full-time job.

poc
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Re: List manually installed packages for a machine migration

[Tim via users]

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 02:38 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> Does anyone know of a good strategy (or have a script) to list
> manually installed packages;

My strategy won't help you now, but may in the future.  When I install
extra packages, I log them to a post-install text file.

In my case, the few things I do add after a fresh install, I'll do from
a terminal as root.  I just cut and past "dnf install named" (or
whatever it was) to a post-install.log file.  There's so few of these
things that I can simply do the reverse (copy and paste from file to
terminal).

I type in a few notes about configuration customisations I've done,
too.  By way of example, here's the entire thing from an old CentOS
box:

---
yum install httpd
yum install dovecot
yum install evolution
yum install vlc
yum install smplayer
yum install bind-chroot

Insert into /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
ServerAlias *
---

As you can see, I didn't change much from the default install.  But if
you did lots of post-install additions, you could write such a log as
an executable script to automate things.  Or simply, just write all the
packages to a single command line:

yum install httpd dovecot evolution vlc smplayer bind-chroot

And as far as seeing things you didn't install on your system, it's
likely they were dependencies.  They may not be the same, now, let a
new install of your desired programs drag in what they need.
 
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Re: KDE not Remaining Active at Startup

[Robert McBroom via users]

On 10/24/24 5:46 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 09:12 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 24/10/24 09:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 08:50 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,
       I randomly have an issue where having logged in to KDE from SDDM,
the KDE desktop with icons displays for a little while, and then it
shuts down to the SDDM login screen again. What do I look at to
determine why?

Maybe start by looking at the journal (e.g. 'journalctrl -xe'). You
could also ask on the Fedora KDE list.

Hi Patrick,
      Just an off topic question, I've switched to a new email address
which I have registered for this mail list and subscribed to the mail
list without creating an account (because I couldn't get the account
creation to accept my passwords) because my normal email address no
longer works (my ISP transferred email processing to a company that
charges for the service and I haven't paid for it), and I am having an
issue where I get emails sent to the list from other subscribers but I
don't see any I send.
      I have your response in this thread, but I am yet to see my
original message in the list.
      Do you know why this would be occurring? I've sent 4 emails to the
list this morning and I'm yet to see any of them.

I'd recommend you contact the list maintainers directly at
users-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org

You can also of course use the execrable HyperKitty web interface,
which I cordially detest.

poc


Test sends a bounce message that my emails have been received but I 
don't get any of the replies unless I use HYPERKITTY. NONE OF THE 
ACTIVITY ON THE LIST COMES TO THE EMAIL.


The detestable kitty is the only access

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Re: How to install new kernels in grub?

[Jonathan Billings]

On Oct 23, 2024, at 23:57, ToddAndMargo via users 
 wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> $ rpm -qa kernel
> kernel-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64
> kernel-6.11.3-100.fc39.x86_64
> kernel-6.11.4-201.fc40.x86_64
> 
> Problem, only the 38 kernel shows in grub.
> 
> How do I get the 40 kernel to show in grub?
> 
> Yours in confusion,
> -T

In general, you let dnf do it for you. If it is broken, you have bigger fish to 
fry. 

As you recall, I asked you about kernels showing up in /boot/efi, this is one 
of the cases where dnf is operating correctly, but due to local configuration, 
dnf installs the vmlinuz files in the wrong place. It sounds like there’s 
something similar going on for you, a piece of the kernel package post-install 
is failing. 

A good thing to try is to run “dnf reinstall kernel-core” and see if you see 
any errors. Also check if new files are installed in /boot and 
/boot/loader/entries/. Check the logs in /var/log, there are a bunch of 
dnf-specific logs. 

At this point I’m not even sure what version of Fedora you are running, since 
it’s a toss-up on what package of dnf you are using. It’s like assembling a 
jigsaw puzzle through the phone, speaking to someone who is in a dark room. 
Neither of us know what piece is being fit. 

 It’s up to you to figure out what’s going on, use your consulting skills to 
determine the fault, and when to call it and reinstall. 

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Re: Remove Packages From _dnf_local

[Stephen Morris]

On 24/10/24 21:25, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 10:43 +0100, Barry wrote:

[...]

If you must post in HTML, please include a plain-text alternative.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#No_HTML_Mail,_Please
Sorry Patrick, I have my Thunderbird composition sending settings set to 
"Automatic" which it says is "If no styling is in the message it will 
send plain text, otherwise it will send html with a plain text backup". 
I am now using a gmail email address, with your comment does that mean 
the Google is removing the text backup?


regards,
Steve



poc




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Re: List manually installed packages for a machine migration

[Go Canes]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 2:39 AM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> I have some old hardware that needs a refresh. The old machine is
> running Fedora 40 x86_64 fully patched. The new machine is running the
> same on a fresh OS install. I want to get a list of packages I
> manually installed on the old machine, like Certbot, Emacs and Nginx,
> so I can configure the new machine.

Might not be the most elegant solution, but you could list the
installed packages to a file on each system using either "rpm" or
"dnf", then "sort" each file and finally "comm" to reduce down to the
packages that are only on the old system.
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Re: Remove Packages From _dnf_local

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 10:43 +0100, Barry wrote:

[...]

If you must post in HTML, please include a plain-text alternative.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#No_HTML_Mail,_Please

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Re: KDE not Remaining Active at Startup

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 11:40 -0400, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
> On 10/24/24 9:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 07:48 -0400, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
> > > > You can also of course use the execrable HyperKitty web interface,
> > > > which I cordially detest.
> > > > 
> > > > poc
> > > Test sends a bounce message that my emails have been received but I
> > > don't get any of the replies unless I use HYPERKITTY. NONE OF THE
> > > ACTIVITY ON THE LIST COMES TO THE EMAIL.
> > If you mean your mail to the list maintainers has been received (not
> > bounced) then have a little patience. As a list maintainer myself (on
> > the Evolution list) I know it can take a while to get round to
> > answering some queries. It's not like it's a full-time job.
> > 
> > poc
> Thu, Oct 24 at 8:12 AM
> Hello from Fedora mailing-lists!
> 
> You are receiving this e-mail because you or someone else has requested a
> password for your user account. However, we do not have any record of a user
> with email mcfo...@bellsouth.net in our database.
> 
> This mail can be safely ignored if you did not request a password reset.
> 
> If it was you, you can sign up for an account using the link below.
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/accounts/signup/
> 
> Thank you for using Fedora mailing-lists!
> lists.fedoraproject.org
> 
> Here I get into a loop
> 
> Account creation for the Fedora mailing-lists is done by creating an 
> account in FAS .
> 
> Created an account but from the account page there is no way to access 
> the list

I can see a number of messages mcfo...@bellsouth.net on the list, so at
some point the address was subscribed to the list. If it no longer
exists then it must have been removed, either by accident or
intentionally. That would explain the message you're getting, which is
clearly an automated response from the list software, not a personal
reply from the list maintainers (users-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org).
They are the only ones who can help in restoring the missing address.

In your original post you mentioned subscribing a new email address
without creating an account. I don't understand what you mean by that.
AFAIK subscribing to the Users list doesn't require you to create any
kind of account.

poc
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Re: Remove Packages From _dnf_local

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2024-10-25 at 08:29 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 24/10/24 21:25, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 10:43 +0100, Barry wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > If you must post in HTML, please include a plain-text alternative.
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#No_HTML_Mail,_Please
> Sorry Patrick, I have my Thunderbird composition sending settings set to 
> "Automatic" which it says is "If no styling is in the message it will 
> send plain text, otherwise it will send html with a plain text backup". 
> I am now using a gmail email address, with your comment does that mean 
> the Google is removing the text backup?

My address is also on Gmail but I use Evolution for mailing lists and
only ever send in plaintext. Be that as it may, Gmail definitely does
not remove Content-Type: text/plain sections from sent mail, and I
seriously doubt that the list processing software would do this to
received mail (there are abundant counterexamples).

IIRC your other posts on this list don't have this problem, so I'd
suspect an issue with TBird or with your config.

poc
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Re: Remove Packages From _dnf_local

[Stephen Morris]

On 25/10/24 08:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Fri, 2024-10-25 at 08:29 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 24/10/24 21:25, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 10:43 +0100, Barry wrote:

[...]

If you must post in HTML, please include a plain-text alternative.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#No_HTML_Mail,_Please

Sorry Patrick, I have my Thunderbird composition sending settings set to
"Automatic" which it says is "If no styling is in the message it will
send plain text, otherwise it will send html with a plain text backup".
I am now using a gmail email address, with your comment does that mean
the Google is removing the text backup?

My address is also on Gmail but I use Evolution for mailing lists and
only ever send in plaintext. Be that as it may, Gmail definitely does
not remove Content-Type: text/plain sections from sent mail, and I
seriously doubt that the list processing software would do this to
received mail (there are abundant counterexamples).

IIRC your other posts on this list don't have this problem, so I'd
suspect an issue with TBird or with your config.
Most of my other posts in this list were from my ISP's mail address 
which is now dead (my ISP transferred mail support to a company that 
charges for the service, which apparently the ISP paid for the first 12 
months for, but I have refused to pay the subscription since, so the 
company has disabled that email address), but they were using the same 
options in Thunderbird, but because I'm using the daily version of 
Thunderbird there may be issues on that front. I don't want to turn off 
sending in html because that will impact all emails I send, and 
Thunderbird doesn't have the option any more to tailor those options for 
specific addresses.


regards,
Steve


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Re: KDE not Remaining Active at Startup

[Stephen Morris]

On 25/10/24 09:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 11:40 -0400, Robert McBroom via users wrote:

On 10/24/24 9:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 07:48 -0400, Robert McBroom via users wrote:

You can also of course use the execrable HyperKitty web interface,
which I cordially detest.

poc

Test sends a bounce message that my emails have been received but I
don't get any of the replies unless I use HYPERKITTY. NONE OF THE
ACTIVITY ON THE LIST COMES TO THE EMAIL.

If you mean your mail to the list maintainers has been received (not
bounced) then have a little patience. As a list maintainer myself (on
the Evolution list) I know it can take a while to get round to
answering some queries. It's not like it's a full-time job.
When I went to subscribe the interface told me accounts are now handle 
by FAS, and that interface specified that I needed to create and account 
or I could specify an email address to register without creating an account.


regards,
Steve



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Hello from Fedora mailing-lists!

You are receiving this e-mail because you or someone else has requested a
password for your user account. However, we do not have any record of a user
with email mcfo...@bellsouth.net in our database.

This mail can be safely ignored if you did not request a password reset.

If it was you, you can sign up for an account using the link below.

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/accounts/signup/

Thank you for using Fedora mailing-lists!
lists.fedoraproject.org

Here I get into a loop

Account creation for the Fedora mailing-lists is done by creating an
account in FAS .

Created an account but from the account page there is no way to access
the list

I can see a number of messages mcfo...@bellsouth.net on the list, so at
some point the address was subscribed to the list. If it no longer
exists then it must have been removed, either by accident or
intentionally. That would explain the message you're getting, which is
clearly an automated response from the list software, not a personal
reply from the list maintainers (users-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org).
They are the only ones who can help in restoring the missing address.

In your original post you mentioned subscribing a new email address
without creating an account. I don't understand what you mean by that.
AFAIK subscribing to the Users list doesn't require you to create any
kind of account.

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Re: KDE not Remaining Active at Startup

[Stephen Morris]

On 24/10/24 20:46, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 09:12 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 24/10/24 09:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 08:50 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,
       I randomly have an issue where having logged in to KDE from SDDM,
the KDE desktop with icons displays for a little while, and then it
shuts down to the SDDM login screen again. What do I look at to
determine why?

Maybe start by looking at the journal (e.g. 'journalctrl -xe'). You
could also ask on the Fedora KDE list.

Hi Patrick,
      Just an off topic question, I've switched to a new email address
which I have registered for this mail list and subscribed to the mail
list without creating an account (because I couldn't get the account
creation to accept my passwords) because my normal email address no
longer works (my ISP transferred email processing to a company that
charges for the service and I haven't paid for it), and I am having an
issue where I get emails sent to the list from other subscribers but I
don't see any I send.
      I have your response in this thread, but I am yet to see my
original message in the list.
      Do you know why this would be occurring? I've sent 4 emails to the
list this morning and I'm yet to see any of them.

I'd recommend you contact the list maintainers directly at
users-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org

You can also of course use the execrable HyperKitty web interface,
which I cordially detest.
Thanks Patrick, I'll contact the maintainers around this. The mails I'm 
sending are making the list because I'm getting replies to them, I just 
can't see the original mail, plus when I reply to mails those replies 
are not showing up for me either. Could the issue be that I am using a 
list registered email address that doesn't have an associated account 
because I couldn't get the account creation process to accept any 
password I supplied?



regards,
Steve


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Re: Remove Packages From _dnf_local

[Tim via users]

On Tue, 2024-10-22 at 08:43 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> When did _dnf_local come into effect?, the last couple of months are the 
> first time I've seen any reference to that repository as a repository 
> being refreshed when all the repository lists are automatically 
> refreshed or when sudo dnf update is issue. Although having said this it 
> is also only recently where I'm getting entries retained in that 
> "repository" as the akmods rebuild of the kmod-nvidia 6.10.12 kernel 
> driver removed that entry from _dnf_local and the akmods build of the 
> kmod-nvidia 6.11.3 kernel driver appears to not have placed an entry 
> there in the first place.

Is that anything different than this:  (essentially a cache)
https://fedoramagazine.org/use-the-dnf-local-plugin-to-speed-up-your-home-lab/

For which the only benefit is if you use two or more machines through
it (their DNF updates use what you've cached, rather than the outside
world), and only if they're installing the same things.

Those other *machines* could be physical hardware, or virtual.

Copied from that link above:

"Repository management

"The local repository will accumulate files over time. Among the files
will be many versions of rpms that change frequently. The kernel rpms 
are one such example. A system upgrade (for example upgrading from 
Fedora Linux 33 to Fedora Linux 34) will copy many rpms into the local 
repository. The dnf repomanage command can be used to remove outdated
rpm archives."

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Re: KDE not Remaining Active at Startup

[Tim via users]

On Fri, 2024-10-25 at 09:13 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> The mails I'm sending are making the list because I'm getting replies
> to them, I just can't see the original mail, plus when I reply to
> mails those replies are not showing up for me either. Could the issue
> be that I am using a list registered email address that doesn't have
> an associated account because I couldn't get the account creation
> process to accept any password I supplied?

There's probably an option about seeing your own messages.  *Perhaps*
the default is "no" and you need an account to set it differently.

If you use some mail service like Gmail, there may also be filtering
options regarding your own messages.
 
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Re: terminal open errors

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 10/23/24 21:36, Tim via users wrote:

On Wed, 2024-10-23 at 16:43 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

There's something seriously wrong with this picture. Do you mean
seriously mean that if your machine suffered an irreparable fault such
as a hard disk crash, you would be out of business?


Many years ago one of my supplier's computers went belly-up, and the
only reason they didn't go under is they did manual invoicing (those
books with carbon copy paper in them).  Without that, they'd have
little idea who owed what.  I'd always done the same, paper invoices in
and out, just use the computer as a searchable filing system.

Since the last recession, I have seem several business
that have just chucked their computers.  Part
of me does not blame them
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Re: Remove Packages From _dnf_local

[Barry]

On 23 Oct 2024, at 22:31, Stephen Morris  wrote:

  

  
  
On 22/10/24 08:30, Barry wrote:


  

  
On 21 Oct 2024, at 22:14, Stephen Morris  wrote:

Hi,
How do I remove kmod-nvidia packages from _dnf_local when sudo dnf remove kmod-nvidia-6.10.10-200.fc40.x86_64 says the package is not found and there is nothing to do and sudo akmods --force won't rebuild it because the 6.10.10 kernel headers don't exist any more and sudo dnf clean all doesn't remove them either?

  
  _dnf_local is just a way of saying not installed from a repo I believe.

What does dnf list installed ‘*nvidia*’ report?
Do you see the kmod-nvidia version listed that you are trying to remove?

dnf list installed *nvidia* doesn't list the kmod-nvidia version I
am trying to remove.
dnf list *nvidia* does list the kmod-nvidia version I am trying to
remove, snippet below.

kmod-nvidia-6.10.10-200.fc40.x86_64.x86_64
3:560.35.03-1.fc40
 _dnf_local

  kmod-nvidia-6.10.11-200.fc40.x86_64.x86_64
3:560.35.03-1.fc40
 _dnf_local
   

I can get rid of the second listed kmod-nvidia entry as I can build
that version because that kernel still exists, but I can't build the
first listed kmod-nvidia as that kernel isn't installed and doesn't
appear to be in any repositories, only 6.10.12, 6.11.3 and 6.11.4
appear to be available.I just checked k my f40 system with akmod nvidia. It does not have a _dnf_local repo.What does dnf repolist show you have?If it lists a _dnf_local then show us what its repo file has in it.

regards,
Steve

  
Barry


  
regards,
Steve


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Re: KDE not Remaining Active at Startup

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 09:12 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 24/10/24 09:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 08:50 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >       I randomly have an issue where having logged in to KDE from SDDM,
> > > the KDE desktop with icons displays for a little while, and then it
> > > shuts down to the SDDM login screen again. What do I look at to
> > > determine why?
> > Maybe start by looking at the journal (e.g. 'journalctrl -xe'). You
> > could also ask on the Fedora KDE list.
> Hi Patrick,
>      Just an off topic question, I've switched to a new email address 
> which I have registered for this mail list and subscribed to the mail 
> list without creating an account (because I couldn't get the account 
> creation to accept my passwords) because my normal email address no 
> longer works (my ISP transferred email processing to a company that 
> charges for the service and I haven't paid for it), and I am having an 
> issue where I get emails sent to the list from other subscribers but I 
> don't see any I send.
>      I have your response in this thread, but I am yet to see my 
> original message in the list.
>      Do you know why this would be occurring? I've sent 4 emails to the 
> list this morning and I'm yet to see any of them.

I'd recommend you contact the list maintainers directly at
users-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org

You can also of course use the execrable HyperKitty web interface,
which I cordially detest.

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Re: terminal open errors

[Tim via users]

On Wed, 2024-10-23 at 16:43 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> There's something seriously wrong with this picture. Do you mean
> seriously mean that if your machine suffered an irreparable fault such
> as a hard disk crash, you would be out of business?

Many years ago one of my supplier's computers went belly-up, and the
only reason they didn't go under is they did manual invoicing (those
books with carbon copy paper in them).  Without that, they'd have
little idea who owed what.  I'd always done the same, paper invoices in
and out, just use the computer as a searchable filing system.
 
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Re: How to install new kernels in grub?

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 10/23/24 23:07, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

I think you are stumbling through your own self-inflicted problems on
your personal Linux installation.

You have no credibility.


I think you have no idea how to help and your ego is bruised.
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List manually installed packages for a machine migration

[Jeffrey Walton]

Hi Everyone,

I have some old hardware that needs a refresh. The old machine is
running Fedora 40 x86_64 fully patched. The new machine is running the
same on a fresh OS install. I want to get a list of packages I
manually installed on the old machine, like Certbot, Emacs and Nginx,
so I can configure the new machine.

According to 

and , `dnf repoquery
--userinstalled` should list user installed packages.

However, I am seeing stuff I did not install. For example, on the new
machine, I only installed Zile (in place of Emacs due to Bug
#2316238). The other packages seem to be due system install or system
update.

$ dnf repoquery --userinstalled
authselect-0:1.5.0-6.fc40.x86_64
efibootmgr-0:18-6.fc40.x86_64
grub2-efi-x64-1:2.06-123.fc40.x86_64
grub2-tools-1:2.06-123.fc40.x86_64
grub2-tools-extra-1:2.06-123.fc40.x86_64
grubby-0:8.40-75.fc40.x86_64
kernel-0:6.11.4-201.fc40.x86_64
kernel-0:6.8.5-301.fc40.x86_64
langpacks-en-0:4.0-13.fc40.noarch
lvm2-0:2.03.25-1.fc40.x86_64
nvme-cli-0:2.8-1.fc40.x86_64
shim-x64-0:15.8-3.x86_64
xfsprogs-0:6.5.0-3.fc40.x86_64
zile-0:2.6.2-5.fc40.x86_64

Does anyone know of a good strategy (or have a script) to list
manually installed packages; and not include automatically installed
packages that were part of the original install or a system update?

Thanks in advance.

Jeff
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Re: How do I start MATE from the command line?

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 10/23/24 17:26, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 10/23/24 06:23, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 7:20 AM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


I have both MATE and Xfce installed.
Whilst I work on my xinit/lightdm problems,
I am firing up my GUI with startx.

startx fires up xfce by default.

How to I tell startx I want to fire up MATE?


Let me Google that for you:
.


Jeff



I took a look at switchdesk in Xfce (fired up with startx).
It does not find MATE.

Lightdm does find MATE, but won't run it as xinit is
corrupted.  I am working on a fix.

mate-sessions fire up xinit, so I am screwed on that front.


This is interesting, switchdesk has a command line
interface:

switchdesk desktopname

And "man switchdesk" show no list option.

But since it does not find MATE, poop!






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