Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multitasking

2015-08-16 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-08-15 18:58 GMT+02:00 Николай Шатохин :

>
> When can I wait true multitasking?
>
> How was alarm realised? I need alarm in my app.
>
> суббота, 15 августа 2015 г. пользователь Roman Zonov написал:
>
> > Hello. Alarm  - is more exception, than a rule, there is no opportunity
> at the moment to make an app working in background.
>

I'm also little worried why only Clock alarm can work and ring even when we
swipe down and close app. Why other apps can't do that? Is it security
issue or something else? I think that blocks lot of cool features (and new
apps that could be developed).

> >
> > И привет русскоязычным фанатам Ubuntu Touch!:)
> >
> > 15.08.2015, 16:52, "Николай Шатохин" :
> >
> > Hello. Is multitasking available? I see torrent downloader doesn't work
> at background, but alarm clock works. How to implement background working
> in my app?
> >
> > Best regards,
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multitasking

2015-08-17 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
So why Ubuntu making the same mistakes? ;)

2015-08-17 8:28 GMT+02:00 Roman Shchekin :

> Services are must-have feature in mobile OS. Just remember Windows Phone 7
> - only music player can work in background, that was terrible for users and
> even more terrible for programmers!
>
> 2015-08-17 3:48 GMT+03:00 James Henstridge  >:
>
>> On 17 August 2015 at 03:15, Krzysztof Tataradziński 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 2015-08-15 18:58 GMT+02:00 Николай Шатохин :
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> When can I wait true multitasking?
>> >>
>> >> How was alarm realised? I need alarm in my app.
>> >>
>> >> суббота, 15 августа 2015 г. пользователь Roman Zonov написал:
>> >>
>> >> > Hello. Alarm  - is more exception, than a rule, there is no
>> opportunity
>> >> > at the moment to make an app working in background.
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm also little worried why only Clock alarm can work and ring even
>> when we
>> > swipe down and close app. Why other apps can't do that? Is it security
>> issue
>> > or something else? I think that blocks lot of cool features (and new
>> apps
>> > that could be developed).
>>
>> The clock application closes just like any other application when you
>> swipe it away.  The reason your alarms still function is because the
>> application is essentially just acting as a front-end to configure the
>> alarms: they are actually managed by a shell component
>> (indicator-datetime, IIRC).
>>
>> It'd be nice to have some kind of general purpose background
>> processing mode for applications, but it isn't available at this time.
>>
>> James.
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multitasking

2015-08-18 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Is there a bug reported (related to that problem) or should we create new
one?

2015-08-18 9:44 GMT+02:00 Simos Xenitellis :

> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński
>  wrote:
> > So why Ubuntu making the same mistakes? ;)
> >
>
> I view that as a rhetorical question ;-).
>
> "Multitasking" (ability to run in the background) for installed apps
> on a mobile device is quite tricky
> and the main issue is how to deal with misbehaving apps.
> Those misbehaving apps that make use of "running in the background"
> can effectively
> drain the battery, make you unhappy and give you a bad view of the phone
> OS.
> It is difficult to debug issues if you have to factor in the
> possibility of some app running in the background.
> I think that even the early iOS did not allow apps to run the
> background, until they could
> figure out how to do properly.
>
> If you are a power user and you need the ability to allow certain apps
> to run in the background,
> then you can install the OpenStore at https://open.uappexplorer.com/apps
> get Ubuntu Touch Tweak Tool and toggle the ability for specific apps
> to run in the background.
>
> Simos
>
> > 2015-08-17 8:28 GMT+02:00 Roman Shchekin :
> >>
> >> Services are must-have feature in mobile OS. Just remember Windows
> Phone 7
> >> - only music player can work in background, that was terrible for users
> and
> >> even more terrible for programmers!
> >>
> >> 2015-08-17 3:48 GMT+03:00 James Henstridge
> >> :
> >>>
> >>> On 17 August 2015 at 03:15, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > 2015-08-15 18:58 GMT+02:00 Николай Шатохин :
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> When can I wait true multitasking?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> How was alarm realised? I need alarm in my app.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> суббота, 15 августа 2015 г. пользователь Roman Zonov написал:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > Hello. Alarm  - is more exception, than a rule, there is no
> >>> >> > opportunity
> >>> >> > at the moment to make an app working in background.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm also little worried why only Clock alarm can work and ring even
> >>> > when we
> >>> > swipe down and close app. Why other apps can't do that? Is it
> security
> >>> > issue
> >>> > or something else? I think that blocks lot of cool features (and new
> >>> > apps
> >>> > that could be developed).
> >>>
> >>> The clock application closes just like any other application when you
> >>> swipe it away.  The reason your alarms still function is because the
> >>> application is essentially just acting as a front-end to configure the
> >>> alarms: they are actually managed by a shell component
> >>> (indicator-datetime, IIRC).
> >>>
> >>> It'd be nice to have some kind of general purpose background
> >>> processing mode for applications, but it isn't available at this time.
> >>>
> >>> James.
> >>>
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> >>
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[Ubuntu-phone] Miracast/MHL/other on MX4

2015-08-24 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
does anyone know if Ubuntu team is working on MHL/Miracast/other support on
Meizu MX4 Ubuntu edition?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Miracast/MHL/other on MX4

2015-08-24 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Can anyone connect it to display and test (maybe it works ;) )?

2015-08-24 11:16 GMT+02:00 nick luigi eusebio :

> Most sites say that MX4 supports MHL but based from forums I read it never
> worked.
> I assume it'll work now if MX4 does support MHL since external display
> support has been working
> on Nexus devices for a while now albeit a bit buggy and unstable. Nexus
> use slimport though.
> Not sure about Miracast.
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2015 11:01 AM
> *Subject:* [Ubuntu-phone] Miracast/MHL/other on MX4
>
> Hello,
> does anyone know if Ubuntu team is working on MHL/Miracast/other support
> on Meizu MX4 Ubuntu edition?
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Miracast/MHL/other on MX4

2015-08-24 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Maybe slimport? Is there any difference?
And what about Miracast? If I good understand, it's method of transfering
screen to external display by WiFi, yes? It's seems to be simple, all we
need is only software to do that, yes? Are there any technical problems
here?

2015-08-24 13:47 GMT+02:00 Thomas A. Moulton :

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Searching for MX4 and MHL shows Meizu forums with others asking about
> this support and finding it does not work and is not supported.
>
> tom
>
>
> On 08/24/2015 07:32 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > Am Montag, den 24.08.2015, 11:01 +0200 schrieb Krzysztof
> > Tataradzi?ski:
> >> Hello, does anyone know if Ubuntu team is working on
> >> MHL/Miracast/other support on Meizu MX4 Ubuntu edition?
> >>
> > afaik the hardware doesnt support MHL ... and even if it would,
> > the binary PVR driver most likely wouldn't support it.
> >
> > ciao
> >
> > oli
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Miracast/MHL/other on MX4

2015-08-24 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
"Are there any technical problems here?" I mean here 'hardware problems'.

2015-08-24 13:56 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :

> Maybe slimport? Is there any difference?
> And what about Miracast? If I good understand, it's method of transfering
> screen to external display by WiFi, yes? It's seems to be simple, all we
> need is only software to do that, yes? Are there any technical problems
> here?
>
> 2015-08-24 13:47 GMT+02:00 Thomas A. Moulton :
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Searching for MX4 and MHL shows Meizu forums with others asking about
>> this support and finding it does not work and is not supported.
>>
>> tom
>>
>>
>> On 08/24/2015 07:32 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
>> > hi,
>> >
>> > Am Montag, den 24.08.2015, 11:01 +0200 schrieb Krzysztof
>> > Tataradzi?ski:
>> >> Hello, does anyone know if Ubuntu team is working on
>> >> MHL/Miracast/other support on Meizu MX4 Ubuntu edition?
>> >>
>> > afaik the hardware doesnt support MHL ... and even if it would,
>> > the binary PVR driver most likely wouldn't support it.
>> >
>> > ciao
>> >
>> > oli
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Miracast/MHL/other on MX4

2015-08-24 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-08-24 15:24 GMT+02:00 Tom Moulton :

> We could only guess.
>
If it worked on Android and the hardware was exactly the same then maybe we
> could hazard a guess.
>
> Only the manufacturer would be able to answer that question.
>
> I read somewhere that Miracast is working. Does anyone have got MX4 with
android and can test that?


> Tom
>
>
> On August 24, 2015 7:56:29 AM EDT, "Krzysztof Tataradziński" <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe slimport? Is there any difference?
>> And what about Miracast? If I good understand, it's method of transfering
>> screen to external display by WiFi, yes? It's seems to be simple, all we
>> need is only software to do that, yes? Are there any technical problems
>> here?
>>
>> 2015-08-24 13:47 GMT+02:00 Thomas A. Moulton :
>>
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Searching for MX4 and MHL shows Meizu forums with others asking about
>>> this support and finding it does not work and is not supported.
>>>
>>> tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/24/2015 07:32 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
>>> > hi,
>>> >
>>> > Am Montag, den 24.08.2015, 11:01 +0200 schrieb Krzysztof
>>> > Tataradzi?ski:
>>> >> Hello, does anyone know if Ubuntu team is working on
>>> >> MHL/Miracast/other support on Meizu MX4 Ubuntu edition?
>>> >>
>>> > afaik the hardware doesnt support MHL ... and even if it would,
>>> > the binary PVR driver most likely wouldn't support it.
>>> >
>>> > ciao
>>> >
>>> > oli
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Miracast/MHL/other on MX4

2015-08-24 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
And what about
"And what about Miracast? If I good understand, it's method of transfering
screen to external display by WiFi, yes? It's seems to be simple, all we
need is only software to do that, yes? Are there any hardware problems
here?"
Or maybe other technology (I don't know is there any more, maybe DLNA?)
screen transmitting by WiFi?

2015-08-24 20:51 GMT+02:00 Simos Xenitellis :

> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 5:52 PM, sturmflut 
> wrote:
> > On 24.08.2015 13:32, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> >
> >> afaik the hardware doesnt support MHL ... and even if it would, the
> >> binary PVR driver most likely wouldn't support it.
> >
> >
> > Short answer:
> >
> > The MX4 kernel sets "MTK_INTERNAL_MHL_SUPPORT=no", nobody ever got it
> > working, and I've found no indication that the device has the necessary
> > hardware.
> >
> >
> > Long answer:
> >
> > Embedded SoCs usually don't directly support external displays attached
> > via MHL, SlimPort or HDMI for two reasons:
> >
> > - They may support only a single display, and the "usual" internal
> > display modules do not speak MHL/SlimPort/HDMI.
> >
> > - They may support multiple displays, but it is up to the device
> > manufacturer to choose which port outputs signals conforming to which
> > standard.
> >
> > So everybody goes the safe way and lets their SoC output signals
> > conforming to the MIPI Alliance standards [1]. Those can be used to talk
> > to internal displays, or can be converted to just about everything else.
> >
> > In the case of the MT6595 SoC used in the Meizu MX4, the SoC supports
> > two MIPI SPI ports for up to two internal displays, and one MIPI DPI
> > port for an external display at up to 1080p 3D resolution. The PowerVR
> > driver supports this, to it the external display is just another MIPI
> port.
> >
> > The MIPI port signals have to be converted to MHL by a separate MHL
> > Bridge chip inside the device, and then later to HDMI by a second
> > converter chip in the cable. It can be done, the MediaTek kernel sources
> > contain drivers for some MHL Bridge chips, but as a matter of fact about
> > 95% of the MediaTek-based devices on the market do not have an MHL
> > Bridge chip. This can e.g. be seen when looking at how few bq devices
> > are listed as being compatible with their own MHL cable [2].
> >
> > As far as I can tell, the MX4 also doesn't have the Bridge chip.
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> > Simon
> >
> > [1] http://mipi.org/
> >
> > [2] http://store.bq.com/es/cable-mhl-hdmi
> >
>
> Indeed, it looks like MHL may not be supported in terms of hardware on
> the phone.
> I think it would the "MHL transmitter" that may be missing, as the
> "MHL Bridge chip" is the hardware to put on an HDTV, etc.
>
> There are unofficial pages that hint to MHL support,
> 1. http://www.gsmarena.com/meizu_mx4-6627.php ("MHL TV-out").
> 2.
> http://docteur-gsm.com/en/meizu-mx4/225124-meizu-mx4-mhl-hdmi-adapter.html
> (They are selling a cable).
>
> However, at http://www.meizu.com/en/products/mx4/spec.html there is no
> mention about TV-out/MHL.
> In addition, http://www.meetmhl.com/devices.aspx?tid=1 lists the
> MHL-compatible devices
> and it is the official website for the MHL Consortium.
> While it lists two earlier phones by Meizu, it does not list the MX4.
> There are videos on Youtube that show the
> old Meizu MX (dual core Exynos SoC) that supports MHL.
>
> It is possible that Meizu decided not to enable MHL in software to
> avoid royalties, etc.
>
> If someone can do the teardown of the hardware - there are several
> videos on Youtube for this,
> they can visually inspect whether there is an MHL transmitter chip.
> For example, the Sil8240 is shown in this phone at
> http://www.slideshare.net/jjwu6266/introducing-samsung-galaxy-s-iv (page
> 60).
>
> Simos
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[Ubuntu-phone] How to translate two strings

2015-08-30 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hi,
In my free time I'm translating Ubuntu strings into polish lang. (mostly
for phone). I've got problem with those:
"Could not create trash info file"
"Could not remove the trash info file"
from "Ubuntu File Manager App".
Because my phone is unusable (broken screen, waiting for parts) I can't
test where are those strings. Could someone help me and explain when those
strings appearing, are them some comments, etc. and what does those strings
mean at all?

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[Ubuntu-phone] Future of Scopes

2015-08-30 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I'm thinking does Canonical has got any plan for make scope more
'interactive'?
Lets see NearBy - we can look at places from Yelp's database and eventually
see it on HERE Maps.
First - is there any possibility to change default map app? I mean I would
love if we click on map button in Nearby scope -> Yelp we can select to
show that place in GPS Navigation or OSMScout. Is that the Scope problem of
maps developers?
Second - why NearBy shows places from Yelp only? Why not to use Google
Places? Great solution would be to add that source and allow users to turn
it on/off.
Third - for me, most of scopes look nice, present data clearly, but still
nothing more and only similar to RSS feeds, not very interactive at all. In
example again Nearby -> Yelp - why scope don't allow to rate place, add new
one, etc.? Only opens website. Is there limitation of Yelp itself or
technology used in Scope or it's just a matter of time and resource and
someone will make that possible?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to translate two strings

2015-08-30 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-08-30 21:10 GMT+02:00 Roman Mindlin :

> I think this strings are about trash directory. So you must use trash
> basket name in your language.
>
> Thanks, I was also thinking in that way. But the question for now is what
is 'trash info file'?
Is it a one file with some logs about all deleted files?
Maybe that 'trash info file' is created (in directory of origin deleted
file) when we delete some file and contain some information where goes
deleted file?
Second question (connected with first one) - why this file is needed in
system, what its purpose?


> 2015-08-30 15:00 GMT+03:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :
>
>> Hi,
>> In my free time I'm translating Ubuntu strings into polish lang. (mostly
>> for phone). I've got problem with those:
>> "Could not create trash info file"
>> "Could not remove the trash info file"
>> from "Ubuntu File Manager App".
>> Because my phone is unusable (broken screen, waiting for parts) I can't
>> test where are those strings. Could someone help me and explain when those
>> strings appearing, are them some comments, etc. and what does those strings
>> mean at all?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
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[Ubuntu-phone] Overheating MX4 - cases for phone safe or not?

2015-09-07 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hi
I will buy case for my MX4.
http://allegro.pl/etui-meizu-mx4-futeral-pokrowiec-portfel-i5407607752.html#tabsAnchor
or
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-Meizu-MX4-High-quality-ipaky-brand-Meizu-MX4-case-silicone-protective-cover-with-slim-design/32297717665.html?spm=2114.031010208.3.3.v8mv2x&ws_ab_test=201407_4,201444_5,201409_1
But I'm concerned about overheating MX4 - in case heat radiation is
limited. When phone reach really high temperature that can damage it, does
phone automatically turn off? (like in many laptops - if temperature reach
some high, risky value, they turn off immediately)

Best regards,
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Overheating MX4 - cases for phone safe or not?

2015-09-07 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Dear Marco,
there is one bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1469369
It's critical, it's new, it's for a long time now and no milestone.
I think that Community or Canonical has strange policy about labeling bugs.

2015-09-07 18:52 GMT+02:00 Marco Graziotti :

>
> Hi Krzysztof,
>
> this problem affect me too.
> My Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition (with Arale r4 installed) have overheating
> when I use it for 10 or 15 minute in YouTube or similar websites.
> The same thing happen when I'm on a call for 10 minutes or more. The phone
> burning at the top.
>
> I see that the top of the phone it's more subjected to overheat, because
> in this part there's CPU and GPU and both use the aluminium frame as a
> dissipator (you can see it in YouTube, in a video that show you how to
> disassembling the phone).
> Right now i'm using a plastic (transparent) back cover that permit the
> dissipation at the top and bottom of the phone.
>
> I don't know in case of high temperature whats happen, I think there is an
> automatic shutdown, like a pc.
>
> You have opened a bug for this overheat problem?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marco Graziotti
>
>
>
>
> Il 07/09/2015 13:29, Krzysztof Tataradziński ha scritto:
>
> Hi
> I will buy case for my MX4.
>
> http://allegro.pl/etui-meizu-mx4-futeral-pokrowiec-portfel-i5407607752.html#tabsAnchor
> or
>
> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-Meizu-MX4-High-quality-ipaky-brand-Meizu-MX4-case-silicone-protective-cover-with-slim-design/32297717665.html?spm=2114.031010208.3.3.v8mv2x&ws_ab_test=201407_4,201444_5,201409_1
> But I'm concerned about overheating MX4 - in case heat radiation is
> limited. When phone reach really high temperature that can damage it,
> does phone automatically turn off? (like in many laptops - if temperature
> reach some high, risky value, they turn off immediately)
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>
>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Overheating MX4 - cases for phone safe or not?

2015-09-08 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

First of all - thanks for replays.
For now I can't check for some new bugs (I still have broken screen -
waiting for package with new one), but I will check as much as I can when I
be able to do that ;)
I'm trying to do my best all the time, for now I'm translating strings and
reporting bugs. Is there any other way I can help?
In month or two, I will graduate (I hope so ;) ) master degree, so then I
will have more time to help. I'm familiar with VBA (using it in work), R so
I think that I learned basic things how coding works. I know that's only
beginning and there is a lot of work in future for me; therefore please
tell me: what programming language I should start to help developing Ubuntu
phone, create apps, etc. Where I can find some information how to fix bug,
how to upload patch for it, how overall process looks like in Ubuntu, etc.?
Is there any other things I should learn apart from programming lang?

2015-09-08 8:42 GMT+02:00 Jason Yen :

> Hi Krzysztof,
>
> According to Meizu, they do have this hardware design to turn off
> the device when battery temperature over 60 Celsius for the
> protection.
>

Good to hear that my phone will turn off when temperature of battery reach
60 Celsius. But I think that in normal usage, phone is more heating near
its CPU/GPU parts. Does that turn off work also when they reach dangerous
temperature?

Best regards,
Krzysztof Tataradziński
https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156

>
> And about the bug #1469369. It was updated with comments about the
> fixes which was landed. Please feel free to comment in the bug for
> the issue you have. We may need separate bugs to track different use
> cases such as using youtube.
>
> BR.
>
> Jason Yen
>
>
>
>
> On 09/08/2015 01:01 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>
> Dear Marco,
> there is one bug
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1469369
> It's critical, it's new, it's for a long time now and no milestone.
> I think that Community or Canonical has strange policy about labeling bugs.
>
> 2015-09-07 18:52 GMT+02:00 Marco Graziotti :
>
>>
>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>
>> this problem affect me too.
>> My Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition (with Arale r4 installed) have overheating
>> when I use it for 10 or 15 minute in YouTube or similar websites.
>> The same thing happen when I'm on a call for 10 minutes or more. The
>> phone burning at the top.
>>
>> I see that the top of the phone it's more subjected to overheat, because
>> in this part there's CPU and GPU and both use the aluminium frame as a
>> dissipator (you can see it in YouTube, in a video that show you how to
>> disassembling the phone).
>> Right now i'm using a plastic (transparent) back cover that permit the
>> dissipation at the top and bottom of the phone.
>>
>> I don't know in case of high temperature whats happen, I think there is
>> an automatic shutdown, like a pc.
>>
>> You have opened a bug for this overheat problem?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Marco Graziotti
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 07/09/2015 13:29, Krzysztof Tataradziński ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi
>> I will buy case for my MX4.
>>
>> http://allegro.pl/etui-meizu-mx4-futeral-pokrowiec-portfel-i5407607752.html#tabsAnchor
>> or
>>
>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-Meizu-MX4-High-quality-ipaky-brand-Meizu-MX4-case-silicone-protective-cover-with-slim-design/32297717665.html?spm=2114.031010208.3.3.v8mv2x&ws_ab_test=201407_4,201444_5,201409_1
>> But I'm concerned about overheating MX4 - in case heat radiation is
>> limited. When phone reach really high temperature that can damage it,
>> does phone automatically turn off? (like in many laptops - if temperature
>> reach some high, risky value, they turn off immediately)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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[Ubuntu-phone] If Gmail can, why other apps can't?

2015-09-11 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

I saw that even when I close Gmail webapp (that one default installed) I'm
receiving notifications about new e-mails. How that is done? I mean why
there is no possibility for now to allow other apps working in background,
even when we close them (by swype down/up), but Gmail webapp can do that?
Why Gmail is so special (besides of that most of us use it ;) ) to allow do
this for it, but it's blocked/not implemented for rest of apps?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] If Gmail can, why other apps can't?

2015-09-12 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
So if I good understand, that Gmail is asking Ubuntu OS and sending some
data to Google and get some other back, even when primary app is closed?
Yes?
I'm thinking about Activity Tracker - is there a possibility to do similar
thing with GPS data? I mean that app will ask Ubuntu OS for location, even
when screen is off (and app is not in foreground) - is that possible for
now or does Canonical working on it?

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2015-09-12 4:20 GMT+02:00 James Henstridge :

> On 12 September 2015 at 07:46, Gran PC  wrote:
>
>> That makes a lot more sense. I didn't think Google did push
>> notifications, I just assumed it was a server at Canonical polling my inbox
>> and then sending push notifications as a temporary stopgap, like BlackBerry
>> used to do.
>>
>
> That is correct.  The account-polld daemon is intended as an interim
> solution to provide notifications for some commonly used services at a time
> when we lack the market share to get Facebook, Twitter, etc to engineer
> Ubuntu specific solutions.  If any of those services decided to add support
> for Ubuntu push notifications, the corresponding code in account-polld
> would likely be removed.
>
> For any anything new, the push notification service is recommended.
>
> James.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] If Gmail can, why other apps can't?

2015-09-12 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-09-12 10:03 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :

> So if I good understand, that Gmail is asking Ubuntu OS and sending some
> data to Google and get some other back, even when primary app is closed?
> Yes?
> I'm thinking about Activity Tracker - is there a possibility to do similar
> thing with GPS data? I mean that app will ask Ubuntu OS for location, even
> when screen is off (and app is not in foreground) - is that possible for
> now or does Canonical working on it?
>
> Or maybe allow Hangsouts to get notify even it is closed?

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Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>
> 2015-09-12 4:20 GMT+02:00 James Henstridge  >:
>
>> On 12 September 2015 at 07:46, Gran PC  wrote:
>>
>>> That makes a lot more sense. I didn't think Google did push
>>> notifications, I just assumed it was a server at Canonical polling my inbox
>>> and then sending push notifications as a temporary stopgap, like BlackBerry
>>> used to do.
>>>
>>
>> That is correct.  The account-polld daemon is intended as an interim
>> solution to provide notifications for some commonly used services at a time
>> when we lack the market share to get Facebook, Twitter, etc to engineer
>> Ubuntu specific solutions.  If any of those services decided to add support
>> for Ubuntu push notifications, the corresponding code in account-polld
>> would likely be removed.
>>
>> For any anything new, the push notification service is recommended.
>>
>> James.
>>
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[Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-14 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
Since OTA-6 I'm facing strange issues.
Sometimes my phone is turning off automatically (don't know when, I saw
that when I take it from my pocket) and sometimes touch don't work (need to
restart phone to get it working again). Could someone help me?
Is that a known bug? If yes, when we can expect some hotfix (I think this
is so important that it should be repaired before OTA-7)

https://plus.google.com/+KrzysztofTataradzi%C5%84ski/posts/7RdgFYtZ5sh

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-14 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hi Marco,
Yes, two days ago I done factory reset and today I find that bug again.
>From Google+ I saw that also Turan Mahmudov is having that issue.

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2015-09-14 19:41 GMT+02:00 Marco Graziotti :

>
> Hi Krzysztof,
>
> In my house I have two Meizu MX4 with OTA-6 installed (Arale r4), and i
> don't have this issue.
> You tried with a "factory reset"?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marco Graziotti
>
>
>
> Il 14/09/2015 19:23, Krzysztof Tataradziński ha scritto:
>
> Hello,
> Since OTA-6 I'm facing strange issues.
> Sometimes my phone is turning off automatically (don't know when, I saw
> that when I take it from my pocket) and sometimes touch don't work (need to
> restart phone to get it working again). Could someone help me?
> Is that a known bug? If yes, when we can expect some hotfix (I think this
> is so important that it should be repaired before OTA-7)
>
> https://plus.google.com/+KrzysztofTataradzi%C5%84ski/posts/7RdgFYtZ5sh
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>
>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-14 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
I thought that for now apps can't start with phone boot. But the problem is
that I use phone, in example sending SMS. Next I turn screen off. 2 minutes
later I turn it on again, but touch don't work.

2015-09-14 19:57 GMT+02:00 Marco Graziotti :

>
> Hi,
>
> try to remember what kind of app have you installed before that this issue
> happened.
> Maybe this problem is caused by an app that start itself when the phone
> boot up.
>
> As I say, I have two MX4 and i don't have this issue.
>
> Marco
>
>
>
>
> Il 14/09/2015 19:53, Krzysztof Tataradziński ha scritto:
>
> Hi Marco,
> Yes, two days ago I done factory reset and today I find that bug again.
> From Google+ I saw that also Turan Mahmudov is having that issue.
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>
> 2015-09-14 19:41 GMT+02:00 Marco Graziotti :
>
>>
>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>
>> In my house I have two Meizu MX4 with OTA-6 installed (Arale r4), and i
>> don't have this issue.
>> You tried with a "factory reset"?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Marco Graziotti
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 14/09/2015 19:23, Krzysztof Tataradziński ha scritto:
>>
>> Hello,
>> Since OTA-6 I'm facing strange issues.
>> Sometimes my phone is turning off automatically (don't know when, I saw
>> that when I take it from my pocket) and sometimes touch don't work (need to
>> restart phone to get it working again). Could someone help me?
>> Is that a known bug? If yes, when we can expect some hotfix (I think this
>> is so important that it should be repaired before OTA-7)
>>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+KrzysztofTataradzi%C5%84ski/posts/7RdgFYtZ5sh>
>> https://plus.google.com/+KrzysztofTataradzi%C5%84ski/posts/7RdgFYtZ5sh
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Ektatar156>https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-14 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hi Kevin,
I can help tomorrow (I'm going sleep now), but I need a step by step what
to do; if that's important I must admin I don't have Ubuntu on desktop, but
Arch.
After we find all information we need, will be possible to back into
default system packages/files/etc.? I mean without additional files that I
need install to find what that bug is about. After all I just want to have
clean system as before ;)

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2015-09-14 21:18 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :

> Hi guys - I believe we already have this bug logged.
> We are driving ourselves nuts trying to replicate. Only a couple of folks
> in the company have rarely seen.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1491566
>
> Krzysztof if you are seeing this frequently we'd love some help in debug.
> I don't know if you'd be willing to do, but we'd like a backtrace of the
> device in the stuck state - but for the interesting bits we'd need you to
> install libc and libstdc++ dbg packages, as well as mir dbg symbols. There
> are some instructions in the bug, but i'll try to make it even more clear.
>
> br,kg
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Marco Graziotti  > wrote:
>
>> Try to open a new bug. Maybe other mx4 users can add more dettails.
>>
>> I don't know why this happen.
>>
>> Marco
>>
>> Il lunedì 14 settembre 2015, Krzysztof Tataradziński 
>> ha scritto:
>> > I thought that for now apps can't start with phone boot. But the
>> problem is that I use phone, in example sending SMS. Next I turn screen
>> off. 2 minutes later I turn it on again, but touch don't work.
>> > 2015-09-14 19:57 GMT+02:00 Marco Graziotti :
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> try to remember what kind of app have you installed before that this
>> issue happened.
>> >> Maybe this problem is caused by an app that start itself when the
>> phone boot up.
>> >>
>> >> As I say, I have two MX4 and i don't have this issue.
>> >>
>> >> Marco
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Il 14/09/2015 19:53, Krzysztof Tataradziński ha scritto:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Marco,
>> >> Yes, two days ago I done factory reset and today I find that bug
>> again. From Google+ I saw that also Turan Mahmudov is having that issue.
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> >> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>> >> 2015-09-14 19:41 GMT+02:00 Marco Graziotti :
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Krzysztof,
>> >>>
>> >>> In my house I have two Meizu MX4 with OTA-6 installed (Arale r4), and
>> i don't have this issue.
>> >>> You tried with a "factory reset"?
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Marco Graziotti
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Il 14/09/2015 19:23, Krzysztof Tataradziński ha scritto:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>> Since OTA-6 I'm facing strange issues.
>> >>> Sometimes my phone is turning off automatically (don't know when, I
>> saw that when I take it from my pocket) and sometimes touch don't work
>> (need to restart phone to get it working again). Could someone help me?
>> >>> Is that a known bug? If yes, when we can expect some hotfix (I think
>> this is so important that it should be repaired before OTA-7)
>> >>>
>> https://plus.google.com/+KrzysztofTataradzi%C5%84ski/posts/7RdgFYtZ5sh
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> >>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-14 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Fast update.
10 minutes ago I heard that I've received SMS. Button was blinking, but no
response, can't wake up screen, look at video
https://www.sendspace.com/file/35eenn
I had to hold power button long time to reset phone.

2015-09-14 22:51 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :

> feel free to ping on IRC freenode in #ubuntu-mir tomorrow, European
> morning is fine people will be able to help, "alf" is specifically chasing
> this one.
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>> I can help tomorrow (I'm going sleep now), but I need a step by step what
>> to do; if that's important I must admin I don't have Ubuntu on desktop, but
>> Arch.
>> After we find all information we need, will be possible to back into
>> default system packages/files/etc.? I mean without additional files that I
>> need install to find what that bug is about. After all I just want to have
>> clean system as before ;)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
>> 2015-09-14 21:18 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>
>>> Hi guys - I believe we already have this bug logged.
>>> We are driving ourselves nuts trying to replicate. Only a couple of
>>> folks in the company have rarely seen.
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1491566
>>>
>>> Krzysztof if you are seeing this frequently we'd love some help in debug.
>>> I don't know if you'd be willing to do, but we'd like a backtrace of the
>>> device in the stuck state - but for the interesting bits we'd need you to
>>> install libc and libstdc++ dbg packages, as well as mir dbg symbols. There
>>> are some instructions in the bug, but i'll try to make it even more clear.
>>>
>>> br,kg
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Marco Graziotti <
>>> graziottima...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Try to open a new bug. Maybe other mx4 users can add more dettails.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why this happen.
>>>>
>>>> Marco
>>>>
>>>> Il lunedì 14 settembre 2015, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>> > I thought that for now apps can't start with phone boot. But the
>>>> problem is that I use phone, in example sending SMS. Next I turn screen
>>>> off. 2 minutes later I turn it on again, but touch don't work.
>>>> > 2015-09-14 19:57 GMT+02:00 Marco Graziotti >>> >:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> try to remember what kind of app have you installed before that this
>>>> issue happened.
>>>> >> Maybe this problem is caused by an app that start itself when the
>>>> phone boot up.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> As I say, I have two MX4 and i don't have this issue.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Marco
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Il 14/09/2015 19:53, Krzysztof Tataradziński ha scritto:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi Marco,
>>>> >> Yes, two days ago I done factory reset and today I find that bug
>>>> again. From Google+ I saw that also Turan Mahmudov is having that issue.
>>>> >> Best regards,
>>>> >> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>>> >> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>>> >> 2015-09-14 19:41 GMT+02:00 Marco Graziotti >>> >:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In my house I have two Meizu MX4 with OTA-6 installed (Arale r4),
>>>> and i don't have this issue.
>>>> >>> You tried with a "factory reset"?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Marco Graziotti
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Il 14/09/2015 19:23, Krzysztof Tataradziński ha scritto:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hello,
>>>> >>> Since OTA-6 I'm facing strange issues.
>>>> >>> Sometimes my phone is turning off automatically (don't know when, I
>>>> saw that when I take it from my pocket) and sometimes touch don't work
>>>> (need to restart phone to get it working again). Could someone help me?
>>>> >>> Is that a known bug? If yes, when we can expect some hotfix (I
>>>> think this is so important that it should be repaired before OTA-7)
>>>> >>>
>>>> https://plus.google.com/+KrzysztofTataradzi%C5%84ski/posts/7RdgFYtZ5sh
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>> >>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>>> >>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-15 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I'm in work now and I received a call and talk about 12 minutes. Before
that I had opened only app responsible for SMS (its stay in background). in
middle of call I felt vibration, but see no notification. After call I've
put my phone in pocket. After ~ 10 minutes I've try to unblock phone by
pin. Entered three digits and touch stopped working. First restarting phone
didn't help. I need to do it couple of time to unblock phone.
I've got GPS all the time on, wifi off, bluetooth off, mobile data off.

Best regards,
Krzysztof Tataradziński
https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156

2015-09-15 1:10 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :

>
> Hey Krzysztof - we've been guessing based on some info that this is
> related to memory pressure. Curious if you recall what apps you had open
> when this happened ? Or roughly how many. And maybe services turned on/off
> (gps, bt, wifi etc)
>
> And curious to hear if you get these freezes "shortly" after rebooting or
> does it seem your using the phone for a while?
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Br, kg
>
>
> On Monday, September 14, 2015, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Fast update.
>> 10 minutes ago I heard that I've received SMS. Button was blinking, but
>> no response, can't wake up screen, look at video
>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/35eenn
>> I had to hold power button long time to reset phone.
>>
>> 2015-09-14 22:51 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>
>>> feel free to ping on IRC freenode in #ubuntu-mir tomorrow, European
>>> morning is fine people will be able to help, "alf" is specifically chasing
>>> this one.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>> I can help tomorrow (I'm going sleep now), but I need a step by step
>>>> what to do; if that's important I must admin I don't have Ubuntu on
>>>> desktop, but Arch.
>>>> After we find all information we need, will be possible to back into
>>>> default system packages/files/etc.? I mean without additional files that I
>>>> need install to find what that bug is about. After all I just want to have
>>>> clean system as before ;)
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>>>
>>>> 2015-09-14 21:18 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys - I believe we already have this bug logged.
>>>>> We are driving ourselves nuts trying to replicate. Only a couple of
>>>>> folks in the company have rarely seen.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1491566
>>>>>
>>>>> Krzysztof if you are seeing this frequently we'd love some help in
>>>>> debug.
>>>>> I don't know if you'd be willing to do, but we'd like a backtrace of
>>>>> the device in the stuck state - but for the interesting bits we'd need you
>>>>> to install libc and libstdc++ dbg packages, as well as mir dbg symbols.
>>>>> There are some instructions in the bug, but i'll try to make it even more
>>>>> clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> br,kg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Marco Graziotti <
>>>>> graziottima...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try to open a new bug. Maybe other mx4 users can add more dettails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know why this happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il lunedì 14 settembre 2015, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>>>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>> > I thought that for now apps can't start with phone boot. But the
>>>>>> problem is that I use phone, in example sending SMS. Next I turn screen
>>>>>> off. 2 minutes later I turn it on again, but touch don't work.
>>>>>> > 2015-09-14 19:57 GMT+02:00 Marco Graziotti <
>>>>>> graziottima...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> try to remember what kind of app have you installed before that
>>>>>> this issue happened.
>>>>>> >> Maybe this problem is caused by an app that start 

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-15 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Now again my touch don't work. Restarting couple of times didn't help. And
I need fast to unlock phone and get phone number that was phoning to me
(don't have it in address book, only in calls). Please help asap if someone
know what to do with that.
I don't know is that related, but I tried to get into recovery mode. It's
loading but stuck at Ubuntu logo (touch work, because bottom button is
reacting at my finger).

Best regards,
Krzysztof Tataradziński
https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156

2015-09-15 10:43 GMT+02:00 Julia Palandri :

> I yesterday had some interesting behavior, possibly related to this. I was
> turning up my phone, and it never finished to completely show the screen
> with the infographics. (it did boot, though). The infographics showed 5
> points (instead of the whole 'month'), and it was impossible to unlock.
> Should I just add to the same bug? open a new one? any info that could
> help? Thanks,
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm in work now and I received a call and talk about 12 minutes. Before
>> that I had opened only app responsible for SMS (its stay in background). in
>> middle of call I felt vibration, but see no notification. After call I've
>> put my phone in pocket. After ~ 10 minutes I've try to unblock phone by
>> pin. Entered three digits and touch stopped working. First restarting phone
>> didn't help. I need to do it couple of time to unblock phone.
>> I've got GPS all the time on, wifi off, bluetooth off, mobile data off.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
>> 2015-09-15 1:10 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Krzysztof - we've been guessing based on some info that this is
>>> related to memory pressure. Curious if you recall what apps you had open
>>> when this happened ? Or roughly how many. And maybe services turned on/off
>>> (gps, bt, wifi etc)
>>>
>>> And curious to hear if you get these freezes "shortly" after rebooting
>>> or does it seem your using the phone for a while?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> Br, kg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 14, 2015, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fast update.
>>>> 10 minutes ago I heard that I've received SMS. Button was blinking, but
>>>> no response, can't wake up screen, look at video
>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/35eenn
>>>> I had to hold power button long time to reset phone.
>>>>
>>>> 2015-09-14 22:51 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>>>
>>>>> feel free to ping on IRC freenode in #ubuntu-mir tomorrow, European
>>>>> morning is fine people will be able to help, "alf" is specifically chasing
>>>>> this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>>>> I can help tomorrow (I'm going sleep now), but I need a step by step
>>>>>> what to do; if that's important I must admin I don't have Ubuntu on
>>>>>> desktop, but Arch.
>>>>>> After we find all information we need, will be possible to back into
>>>>>> default system packages/files/etc.? I mean without additional files that 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> need install to find what that bug is about. After all I just want to 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> clean system as before ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-09-14 21:18 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi guys - I believe we already have this bug logged.
>>>>>>> We are driving ourselves nuts trying to replicate. Only a couple of
>>>>>>> folks in the company have rarely seen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1491566
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Krzysztof if you are seeing this frequently we'd love some help in
>>>>>>> debug.
>>>>>>> I don't know if you'd be willing to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-15 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-09-15 11:05 GMT+02:00 Jelmer Prins :

> Have you tried to reboot it in normal mode ?
>
> Yes, couple of times, didn't help.

> On 15 Sep 2015, at 11:01, Krzysztof Tataradziński 
> wrote:
>
> Now again my touch don't work. Restarting couple of times didn't help. And
> I need fast to unlock phone and get phone number that was phoning to me
> (don't have it in address book, only in calls). Please help asap if someone
> know what to do with that.
> I don't know is that related, but I tried to get into recovery mode. It's
> loading but stuck at Ubuntu logo (touch work, because bottom button is
> reacting at my finger).
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>
> 2015-09-15 10:43 GMT+02:00 Julia Palandri :
>
>> I yesterday had some interesting behavior, possibly related to this. I
>> was turning up my phone, and it never finished to completely show the
>> screen with the infographics. (it did boot, though). The infographics
>> showed 5 points (instead of the whole 'month'), and it was impossible to
>> unlock. Should I just add to the same bug? open a new one? any info that
>> could help? Thanks,
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm in work now and I received a call and talk about 12 minutes. Before
>>> that I had opened only app responsible for SMS (its stay in background). in
>>> middle of call I felt vibration, but see no notification. After call I've
>>> put my phone in pocket. After ~ 10 minutes I've try to unblock phone by
>>> pin. Entered three digits and touch stopped working. First restarting phone
>>> didn't help. I need to do it couple of time to unblock phone.
>>> I've got GPS all the time on, wifi off, bluetooth off, mobile data off.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>>
>>> 2015-09-15 1:10 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Krzysztof - we've been guessing based on some info that this is
>>>> related to memory pressure. Curious if you recall what apps you had open
>>>> when this happened ? Or roughly how many. And maybe services turned on/off
>>>> (gps, bt, wifi etc)
>>>>
>>>> And curious to hear if you get these freezes "shortly" after rebooting
>>>> or does it seem your using the phone for a while?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>> Br, kg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, September 14, 2015, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fast update.
>>>>> 10 minutes ago I heard that I've received SMS. Button was blinking,
>>>>> but no response, can't wake up screen, look at video
>>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/35eenn
>>>>> I had to hold power button long time to reset phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-09-14 22:51 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>>>>
>>>>>> feel free to ping on IRC freenode in #ubuntu-mir tomorrow, European
>>>>>> morning is fine people will be able to help, "alf" is specifically 
>>>>>> chasing
>>>>>> this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>>>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>>>>> I can help tomorrow (I'm going sleep now), but I need a step by step
>>>>>>> what to do; if that's important I must admin I don't have Ubuntu on
>>>>>>> desktop, but Arch.
>>>>>>> After we find all information we need, will be possible to back into
>>>>>>> default system packages/files/etc.? I mean without additional files 
>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>> need install to find what that bug is about. After all I just want to 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> clean system as before ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-09-14 21:18 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi guys

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-16 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Sorry, but I didn't have time yesterday to fight with that bug. I
thought that I will do it today. At 8 am I went to work (touch was
working). Received phone call, after that touch stopped working. After
2 hours of waiting, restarting phone, removing and putting again SIM
card - started working. I putted my phone on table and I saw that it
restarted itself (maybe there was some call coming - can't check that)
and from that time I can't get touch working (~8 hours). Is there any
way to deal with that? I can't even record video to show when that bug
appear, because can't get touch working even for a while.

I've created 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1495672
but can't even do
"- The output of system-image-cli -i
- The full output of 'ps auxwf'
- The full output of 'top -b -d3 -n10' (it'll take 30 seconds to run)
- /var/log/syslog from the same time the problem occurs
- A tar file of /home/phablet/.cache/upstart"
Because I can't enable developer mode.

I'm thinking about:
1. Factory reset (but can't get into settings)
2. Reinstalling OS (how can I do that?)
3. Upgrade into rc-proposed (how can I do that?)

Could anyone help me?
I can make Hangout if that helps.

Also when I turn device off and try to get into recovery mode (volume
up + power), because it's stuck at screen with purple background,
white and orange Ubuntu logo and shining bottom button. Is that other
bug or related to that?

2015-09-15 11:15 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :
> 2015-09-15 11:05 GMT+02:00 Jelmer Prins :
>>
>> Have you tried to reboot it in normal mode ?
>>
> Yes, couple of times, didn't help.
>>
>> On 15 Sep 2015, at 11:01, Krzysztof Tataradziński 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Now again my touch don't work. Restarting couple of times didn't help. And
>> I need fast to unlock phone and get phone number that was phoning to me
>> (don't have it in address book, only in calls). Please help asap if someone
>> know what to do with that.
>> I don't know is that related, but I tried to get into recovery mode. It's
>> loading but stuck at Ubuntu logo (touch work, because bottom button is
>> reacting at my finger).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
>> 2015-09-15 10:43 GMT+02:00 Julia Palandri :
>>>
>>> I yesterday had some interesting behavior, possibly related to this. I
>>> was turning up my phone, and it never finished to completely show the screen
>>> with the infographics. (it did boot, though). The infographics showed 5
>>> points (instead of the whole 'month'), and it was impossible to unlock.
>>> Should I just add to the same bug? open a new one? any info that could help?
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I'm in work now and I received a call and talk about 12 minutes. Before
>>>> that I had opened only app responsible for SMS (its stay in background). in
>>>> middle of call I felt vibration, but see no notification. After call I've
>>>> put my phone in pocket. After ~ 10 minutes I've try to unblock phone by 
>>>> pin.
>>>> Entered three digits and touch stopped working. First restarting phone
>>>> didn't help. I need to do it couple of time to unblock phone.
>>>> I've got GPS all the time on, wifi off, bluetooth off, mobile data off.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>>>
>>>> 2015-09-15 1:10 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Krzysztof - we've been guessing based on some info that this is
>>>>> related to memory pressure. Curious if you recall what apps you had open
>>>>> when this happened ? Or roughly how many. And maybe services turned on/off
>>>>> (gps, bt, wifi etc)
>>>>>
>>>>> And curious to hear if you get these freezes "shortly" after rebooting
>>>>> or does it seem your using the phone for a while?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>> Br, kg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, September 14, 2015, Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fast update.
>>>>>> 10 minutes ago I heard that I've received SMS. Button was blinking,
>>>>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-16 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-09-16 20:31 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :

> Sorry, but I didn't have time yesterday to fight with that bug. I
> thought that I will do it today. At 8 am I went to work (touch was
> working). Received phone call, after that touch stopped working. After
> 2 hours of waiting, restarting phone, removing and putting again SIM
> card - started working. I putted my phone on table and I saw that it
> restarted itself (maybe there was some call coming - can't check that)
> and from that time I can't get touch working (~8 hours). Is there any
> way to deal with that? I can't even record video to show when that bug
> appear, because can't get touch working even for a while.
>
> I've created
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1495672
> but can't even do
> "- The output of system-image-cli -i
> - The full output of 'ps auxwf'
> - The full output of 'top -b -d3 -n10' (it'll take 30 seconds to run)
> - /var/log/syslog from the same time the problem occurs
> - A tar file of /home/phablet/.cache/upstart"
> Because I can't enable developer mode.
>
> I'm thinking about:
> 1. Factory reset (but can't get into settings)
> 2. Reinstalling OS (how can I do that?)
> 3. Upgrade into rc-proposed (how can I do that?)
>
> Could anyone help me?
> I can make Hangout if that helps.
>
> Also when I turn device off and try to get into recovery mode (volume
> up + power), because it's stuck at screen with purple background,
> white and orange Ubuntu logo and shining bottom button. Is that other
> bug or related to that?
>

Tried also to get into factory mode (volume down + power) and it stuck with
text "FASTBOOT mode..."
What the difference between recovery/factory? Or maybe that's all what
should load when I do that?


> 2015-09-15 11:15 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :
> > 2015-09-15 11:05 GMT+02:00 Jelmer Prins :
> >>
> >> Have you tried to reboot it in normal mode ?
> >>
> > Yes, couple of times, didn't help.
> >>
> >> On 15 Sep 2015, at 11:01, Krzysztof Tataradziński 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Now again my touch don't work. Restarting couple of times didn't help.
> And
> >> I need fast to unlock phone and get phone number that was phoning to me
> >> (don't have it in address book, only in calls). Please help asap if
> someone
> >> know what to do with that.
> >> I don't know is that related, but I tried to get into recovery mode.
> It's
> >> loading but stuck at Ubuntu logo (touch work, because bottom button is
> >> reacting at my finger).
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> >> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
> >>
> >> 2015-09-15 10:43 GMT+02:00 Julia Palandri  >:
> >>>
> >>> I yesterday had some interesting behavior, possibly related to this. I
> >>> was turning up my phone, and it never finished to completely show the
> screen
> >>> with the infographics. (it did boot, though). The infographics showed 5
> >>> points (instead of the whole 'month'), and it was impossible to unlock.
> >>> Should I just add to the same bug? open a new one? any info that could
> help?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>> I'm in work now and I received a call and talk about 12 minutes.
> Before
> >>>> that I had opened only app responsible for SMS (its stay in
> background). in
> >>>> middle of call I felt vibration, but see no notification. After call
> I've
> >>>> put my phone in pocket. After ~ 10 minutes I've try to unblock phone
> by pin.
> >>>> Entered three digits and touch stopped working. First restarting phone
> >>>> didn't help. I need to do it couple of time to unblock phone.
> >>>> I've got GPS all the time on, wifi off, bluetooth off, mobile data
> off.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> >>>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
> >>>>
> >>>> 2015-09-15 1:10 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hey Krzysztof - we've been guessing based on some info that this is
> >>>>> related to memory pressure. Curious if you recall what apps you had
> open
> >>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-16 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-09-16 20:40 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :

>
>
> 2015-09-16 20:31 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :
>
>> Sorry, but I didn't have time yesterday to fight with that bug. I
>> thought that I will do it today. At 8 am I went to work (touch was
>> working). Received phone call, after that touch stopped working. After
>> 2 hours of waiting, restarting phone, removing and putting again SIM
>> card - started working. I putted my phone on table and I saw that it
>> restarted itself (maybe there was some call coming - can't check that)
>> and from that time I can't get touch working (~8 hours). Is there any
>> way to deal with that? I can't even record video to show when that bug
>> appear, because can't get touch working even for a while.
>>
>> I've created
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1495672
>> but can't even do
>> "- The output of system-image-cli -i
>> - The full output of 'ps auxwf'
>> - The full output of 'top -b -d3 -n10' (it'll take 30 seconds to run)
>> - /var/log/syslog from the same time the problem occurs
>> - A tar file of /home/phablet/.cache/upstart"
>> Because I can't enable developer mode.
>>
>> I'm thinking about:
>> 1. Factory reset (but can't get into settings)
>>
> Done by connecting mouse and trying to click with invisible cursor -
restarted, but didn't help.


> 2. Reinstalling OS (how can I do that?)
>> 3. Upgrade into rc-proposed (how can I do that?)
>>
>> Could anyone help me?
>> I can make Hangout if that helps.
>>
>> Also when I turn device off and try to get into recovery mode (volume
>> up + power), because it's stuck at screen with purple background,
>> white and orange Ubuntu logo and shining bottom button. Is that other
>> bug or related to that?
>>
>
> Tried also to get into factory mode (volume down + power) and it stuck
> with text "FASTBOOT mode..."
> What the difference between recovery/factory? Or maybe that's all what
> should load when I do that?
>
>
>> 2015-09-15 11:15 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :
>> > 2015-09-15 11:05 GMT+02:00 Jelmer Prins :
>> >>
>> >> Have you tried to reboot it in normal mode ?
>> >>
>> > Yes, couple of times, didn't help.
>> >>
>> >> On 15 Sep 2015, at 11:01, Krzysztof Tataradziński > >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Now again my touch don't work. Restarting couple of times didn't help.
>> And
>> >> I need fast to unlock phone and get phone number that was phoning to me
>> >> (don't have it in address book, only in calls). Please help asap if
>> someone
>> >> know what to do with that.
>> >> I don't know is that related, but I tried to get into recovery mode.
>> It's
>> >> loading but stuck at Ubuntu logo (touch work, because bottom button is
>> >> reacting at my finger).
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> >> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>> >>
>> >> 2015-09-15 10:43 GMT+02:00 Julia Palandri <
>> julia.palan...@canonical.com>:
>> >>>
>> >>> I yesterday had some interesting behavior, possibly related to this. I
>> >>> was turning up my phone, and it never finished to completely show the
>> screen
>> >>> with the infographics. (it did boot, though). The infographics showed
>> 5
>> >>> points (instead of the whole 'month'), and it was impossible to
>> unlock.
>> >>> Should I just add to the same bug? open a new one? any info that
>> could help?
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hello,
>> >>>> I'm in work now and I received a call and talk about 12 minutes.
>> Before
>> >>>> that I had opened only app responsible for SMS (its stay in
>> background). in
>> >>>> middle of call I felt vibration, but see no notification. After call
>> I've
>> >>>> put my phone in pocket. After ~ 10 minutes I've try to unblock phone
>> by pin.
>> >>>> Entered three digits and touch stopped working. First restarting
>> phone
>> >>>> didn't help. I need to do it couple of 

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-16 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello Kevin,
I don't know why, but my touch repaired magically after n times rebooted.
That touch unavaiable thing is geting more and more time (think in
geometrical scale (first one repaired after 1-2 reboots, next more and
more; yesterday that was couple of hours; today ~10 hours of restarting)),
so I will reflash it.
I must enter fastboot mode and only enter that command
ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
--bootstrap --recovery-image=recovery.img
from my computer (with device connected to it), yes?
It will reset all my partitions and reinstall OS, yes?

2015-09-16 21:10 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :

> hey Krzysztof
> I don't think anyone has reported anything this awful, much more sporadic.
> Not sure if others on the team have any ideas with so many "unable to.."s
> listed in the bug.
>
> you'll wipe everything on your phone with this, but sounds like you're
> beyond that point.
> if you want to reflash in fastboot mode, your using an MX4 so you could
> connect and do (sub your internationalization for the ".en" and replace the
> "stable" with "rc-proposed" if you prefer)
>
> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
> --bootstrap --recovery-image=recovery.img
>
> you can find the recovery image for MX4 here.
> http://people.canonical.com/~alextu/tangxi/recovery/recovery.img
>
> br,kg
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2015-09-16 20:40 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-09-16 20:31 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński 
>>> :
>>>
>>>> Sorry, but I didn't have time yesterday to fight with that bug. I
>>>> thought that I will do it today. At 8 am I went to work (touch was
>>>> working). Received phone call, after that touch stopped working. After
>>>> 2 hours of waiting, restarting phone, removing and putting again SIM
>>>> card - started working. I putted my phone on table and I saw that it
>>>> restarted itself (maybe there was some call coming - can't check that)
>>>> and from that time I can't get touch working (~8 hours). Is there any
>>>> way to deal with that? I can't even record video to show when that bug
>>>> appear, because can't get touch working even for a while.
>>>>
>>>> I've created
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1495672
>>>> but can't even do
>>>> "- The output of system-image-cli -i
>>>> - The full output of 'ps auxwf'
>>>> - The full output of 'top -b -d3 -n10' (it'll take 30 seconds to run)
>>>> - /var/log/syslog from the same time the problem occurs
>>>> - A tar file of /home/phablet/.cache/upstart"
>>>> Because I can't enable developer mode.
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about:
>>>> 1. Factory reset (but can't get into settings)
>>>>
>>> Done by connecting mouse and trying to click with invisible cursor -
>> restarted, but didn't help.
>>
>>
>>> 2. Reinstalling OS (how can I do that?)
>>>> 3. Upgrade into rc-proposed (how can I do that?)
>>>>
>>>> Could anyone help me?
>>>> I can make Hangout if that helps.
>>>>
>>>> Also when I turn device off and try to get into recovery mode (volume
>>>> up + power), because it's stuck at screen with purple background,
>>>> white and orange Ubuntu logo and shining bottom button. Is that other
>>>> bug or related to that?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tried also to get into factory mode (volume down + power) and it stuck
>>> with text "FASTBOOT mode..."
>>> What the difference between recovery/factory? Or maybe that's all what
>>> should load when I do that?
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2015-09-15 11:15 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński >>> >:
>>>> > 2015-09-15 11:05 GMT+02:00 Jelmer Prins :
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Have you tried to reboot it in normal mode ?
>>>> >>
>>>> > Yes, couple of times, didn't help.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 15 Sep 2015, at 11:01, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>>> ktatar...@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Now again my touch don't work. Restarting couple of times didn't
>>>&g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-16 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
I'm on Ubuntu now and I want to run that commands before reflash
"- The output of system-image-cli -i
- The full output of 'ps auxwf'
- The full output of 'top -b -d3 -n10' (it'll take 30 seconds to run)"
But how to do that? I've got ADB installed, phone is ON in normal mode and
connected via usb to computer.
adb devices gives me
List of devices attached
75HABLMGZTUXdevice

2015-09-16 22:47 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :

> Hi Krzysztof,
> very strange indeed.
> And yes to your questions.
> br,kg
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Kevin,
>> I don't know why, but my touch repaired magically after n times rebooted.
>> That touch unavaiable thing is geting more and more time (think in
>> geometrical scale (first one repaired after 1-2 reboots, next more and
>> more; yesterday that was couple of hours; today ~10 hours of restarting)),
>> so I will reflash it.
>> I must enter fastboot mode and only enter that command
>> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
>> --bootstrap --recovery-image=recovery.img
>> from my computer (with device connected to it), yes?
>> It will reset all my partitions and reinstall OS, yes?
>>
>> 2015-09-16 21:10 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>
>>> hey Krzysztof
>>> I don't think anyone has reported anything this awful, much more
>>> sporadic.
>>> Not sure if others on the team have any ideas with so many "unable
>>> to.."s listed in the bug.
>>>
>>> you'll wipe everything on your phone with this, but sounds like you're
>>> beyond that point.
>>> if you want to reflash in fastboot mode, your using an MX4 so you could
>>> connect and do (sub your internationalization for the ".en" and replace the
>>> "stable" with "rc-proposed" if you prefer)
>>>
>>> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
>>> --bootstrap --recovery-image=recovery.img
>>>
>>> you can find the recovery image for MX4 here.
>>> http://people.canonical.com/~alextu/tangxi/recovery/recovery.img
>>>
>>> br,kg
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2015-09-16 20:40 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński >>> >:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-09-16 20:31 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>>>> ktatar...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, but I didn't have time yesterday to fight with that bug. I
>>>>>> thought that I will do it today. At 8 am I went to work (touch was
>>>>>> working). Received phone call, after that touch stopped working. After
>>>>>> 2 hours of waiting, restarting phone, removing and putting again SIM
>>>>>> card - started working. I putted my phone on table and I saw that it
>>>>>> restarted itself (maybe there was some call coming - can't check that)
>>>>>> and from that time I can't get touch working (~8 hours). Is there any
>>>>>> way to deal with that? I can't even record video to show when that bug
>>>>>> appear, because can't get touch working even for a while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've created
>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1495672
>>>>>> but can't even do
>>>>>> "- The output of system-image-cli -i
>>>>>> - The full output of 'ps auxwf'
>>>>>> - The full output of 'top -b -d3 -n10' (it'll take 30 seconds to run)
>>>>>> - /var/log/syslog from the same time the problem occurs
>>>>>> - A tar file of /home/phablet/.cache/upstart"
>>>>>> Because I can't enable developer mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking about:
>>>>>> 1. Factory reset (but can't get into settings)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Done by connecting mouse and trying to click with invisible cursor -
>>>> restarted, but didn't help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2. Reinstalling OS (how can I do that?)
>>>>>> 3. Upgrade into rc-proposed (how can I do that?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could anyone help me

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-16 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
I'm in FASTBOOT mode... (that string appeared in my phone).
^Cubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubuntu-device-flash touch
--channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizen --bootstrap
--recovery-image=recovery.img
2015/09/16 21:21:37 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting
And nothing happens.
I must admin that when phone is in 'normal' on, 'adb devices' find phone
without problem.

2015-09-16 21:08 GMT+00:00 Niklas Wenzel :

> Am Mi, 16. Sep, 2015 um 11:04 schrieb Niklas Wenzel <
> nikwen.develo...@gmail.com>:
>
> Am Mi, 16. Sep, 2015 um 9:10 schrieb Kevin Gunn  >:
>
> I don't think anyone has reported anything this awful, much more sporadic.
> Not sure if others on the team have any ideas with so many "unable to.."s
> listed in the bug.
>
>
> I'm having it multiple times a day on my Nexus 4 as well. Not sure if
> always after a notifications arrives, but way too often.
>
>
> However, a reboot always "solves" the problem for me.
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-16 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Nevermind,
forgot to enable that device in usb i virtualbox.

2015-09-16 21:23 GMT+00:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :

> I'm in FASTBOOT mode... (that string appeared in my phone).
> ^Cubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubuntu-device-flash touch
> --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizen --bootstrap
> --recovery-image=recovery.img
> 2015/09/16 21:21:37 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting
> And nothing happens.
> I must admin that when phone is in 'normal' on, 'adb devices' find phone
> without problem.
>
> 2015-09-16 21:08 GMT+00:00 Niklas Wenzel :
>
>> Am Mi, 16. Sep, 2015 um 11:04 schrieb Niklas Wenzel <
>> nikwen.develo...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Am Mi, 16. Sep, 2015 um 9:10 schrieb Kevin Gunn > >:
>>
>> I don't think anyone has reported anything this awful, much more sporadic.
>> Not sure if others on the team have any ideas with so many "unable to.."s
>> listed in the bug.
>>
>>
>> I'm having it multiple times a day on my Nexus 4 as well. Not sure if
>> always after a notifications arrives, but way too often.
>>
>>
>> However, a reboot always "solves" the problem for me.
>>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-6 MX4 big problem

2015-09-17 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I've posted some updates, logs, etc.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1495672
Please help, touch still don't work. I will be grateful for every hint how
to repair it, what to check, etc.

2015-09-16 23:59 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :

> hey Krzysztof - so if you can see the device, you can do phablet-shell on
> your host, that'll take you to the phone shell where you can get that info.
> Also, if you need to pull files off, on your host you can do adb pull
> /path/to/file/on/phone /path/to/your/host/
>
> br,kg
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm on Ubuntu now and I want to run that commands before reflash
>> "- The output of system-image-cli -i
>> - The full output of 'ps auxwf'
>> - The full output of 'top -b -d3 -n10' (it'll take 30 seconds to run)"
>> But how to do that? I've got ADB installed, phone is ON in normal mode
>> and connected via usb to computer.
>> adb devices gives me
>> List of devices attached
>> 75HABLMGZTUXdevice
>>
>> 2015-09-16 22:47 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>
>>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>> very strange indeed.
>>> And yes to your questions.
>>> br,kg
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Kevin,
>>>> I don't know why, but my touch repaired magically after n times
>>>> rebooted. That touch unavaiable thing is geting more and more time (think
>>>> in geometrical scale (first one repaired after 1-2 reboots, next more and
>>>> more; yesterday that was couple of hours; today ~10 hours of restarting)),
>>>> so I will reflash it.
>>>> I must enter fastboot mode and only enter that command
>>>> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
>>>> --bootstrap --recovery-image=recovery.img
>>>> from my computer (with device connected to it), yes?
>>>> It will reset all my partitions and reinstall OS, yes?
>>>>
>>>> 2015-09-16 21:10 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gunn :
>>>>
>>>>> hey Krzysztof
>>>>> I don't think anyone has reported anything this awful, much more
>>>>> sporadic.
>>>>> Not sure if others on the team have any ideas with so many "unable
>>>>> to.."s listed in the bug.
>>>>>
>>>>> you'll wipe everything on your phone with this, but sounds like you're
>>>>> beyond that point.
>>>>> if you want to reflash in fastboot mode, your using an MX4 so you
>>>>> could connect and do (sub your internationalization for the ".en" and
>>>>> replace the "stable" with "rc-proposed" if you prefer)
>>>>>
>>>>> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
>>>>> --bootstrap --recovery-image=recovery.img
>>>>>
>>>>> you can find the recovery image for MX4 here.
>>>>> http://people.canonical.com/~alextu/tangxi/recovery/recovery.img
>>>>>
>>>>> br,kg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-09-16 20:40 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>>>>> ktatar...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-09-16 20:31 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>>>>>> ktatar...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I didn't have time yesterday to fight with that bug. I
>>>>>>>> thought that I will do it today. At 8 am I went to work (touch was
>>>>>>>> working). Received phone call, after that touch stopped working.
>>>>>>>> After
>>>>>>>> 2 hours of waiting, restarting phone, removing and putting again SIM
>>>>>>>> card - started working. I putted my phone on table and I saw that it
>>>>>>>> restarted itself (maybe there was some call coming - can't check
>>>>>>>> that)
>>>>>>>> and from that time I can't get touch working (~8 hours). Is there
>>>>>>>> any
>>>

[Ubuntu-phone] Directories allowed for apps (Future of it?)

2015-09-21 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello all,

First of all, if I good understand, that app 'xyz' can write only in folder
.local/xyz or something like that, yes?
Now suppose that Ubuntu has archived big success on mobile market,
convergence and there will appear some Office app called 'xyz' from 3rd
party partner.
Most users, like me, are keeping their documents in ~/Documents dir.
When I create document 'abc.odt' with that app, I will be able only to save
file in .local/share/xyz folder, yes?

Is there or will be any way to allow apps working with other folders?

For now, using apps like WifiTransfer or Vulgry (that is downloading files
/home/phablet/.local/share/ubuntu-download-manager/vulgry.johangm90/Downloads)
is little uncomfortable.

Are there any plans to solve that case?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Directories allowed for apps (Future of it?)

2015-09-21 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
So for clarification:
app XYZ can access by content-hub other app's (YYY) file (abc.odf) located
in .local/share/YYY/abc.odf read and edit it, yes?
But could XYZ use content-hub to read/write in example in ~/Documents or
~/Music?

Best regards,
Krzysztof Tataradziński
https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156

2015-09-21 17:11 GMT+02:00 Ken VanDine :

> Applications need to use the content-hub to open content created by other
> applications.  See
> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Content.index/
>
> Cheers,
> Ken
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> First of all, if I good understand, that app 'xyz' can write only in
>> folder .local/xyz or something like that, yes?
>> Now suppose that Ubuntu has archived big success on mobile market,
>> convergence and there will appear some Office app called 'xyz' from 3rd
>> party partner.
>> Most users, like me, are keeping their documents in ~/Documents dir.
>> When I create document 'abc.odt' with that app, I will be able only to
>> save file in .local/share/xyz folder, yes?
>>
>> Is there or will be any way to allow apps working with other folders?
>>
>> For now, using apps like WifiTransfer or Vulgry (that is downloading
>> files
>> /home/phablet/.local/share/ubuntu-download-manager/vulgry.johangm90/Downloads)
>> is little uncomfortable.
>>
>> Are there any plans to solve that case?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
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[Ubuntu-phone] Reverse Scopes refreshing

2015-09-26 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I think that for now, in example, scope Today is not useful as it can be.
Lets look at last calls part - If I don't refresh scope, I see last calls
from time scope was refreshed. If I want to see real last calls (when I
made some calls between last refresh of scope and present) I can:
a) refresh Today scope - what is really slow
b) go to calls app - so what is the point of using scope?
In this example (any many others) Scopes philosophy to have faster access
to read data is wrong.

Maybe better solution would be refreshing scope, even in background, when
data changes? It above example scope should refresh data when I make
another call.
In NearBy scope it should refresh when we change position that having an
impact on the results of objects in the nearby (or when we move too fast
(car) and too often (running) - it should adjust, maybe less frequent).

What do you think about that?

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[Ubuntu-phone] Touch still working while screen is off

2015-09-30 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I'm on MX4.
Is that a known bug: sometimes touch screen is still working (can 'capture'
touch) while screen is off. I know this because when I move finger near
button, it shines. I suspect that may have an impact on increased battery
consumption.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Touch still working while screen is off

2015-10-01 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-09-30 19:37 GMT+02:00 Pat McGowan :

> The button doesn't get deactivated immediately it takes a few seconds, it
> is a known issue, the only real symptom is you may switch to the home scope
> without meaning to. This is a separate device from the touch screen.
>
> For me sometimes button still works after few minutes. Is that a know
thing?

> Pat
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm on MX4.
>> Is that a known bug: sometimes touch screen is still working (can
>> 'capture' touch) while screen is off. I know this because when I move
>> finger near button, it shines. I suspect that may have an impact on
>> increased battery consumption.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-01 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I want submit only one small note

2015-10-01 14:04 GMT+02:00 Thomas Voß :

> Hey Simon,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts and ideas. Please find my suggestions and
> replies inline:
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Sturm Flut 
> wrote:
> > Good morning dear list,
> >
> > this has been brewing for quite some time now and the discussion
> > Krzysztof Tataradziński started a week ago didn't lead anywhere again,
> > so I'm starting it yet another time:
> >
> > In my opinion the "no background processing for apps on the phone"
> > design decision is wrong, is already hurting us too much and has to be
> > revoked as soon as possible.
> >
>
> To state this very clearly: We are looking at a continuum of potential
> solutions here.
> It is unfortunately not as simple as just revoking one solution and
> picking another one, but
> all the different objectives have to be balanced. To this end, let me
> clarify some of the guiding
> principles and objectives that have to be accounted for in the context
> of lifecycle policies:
>
> (1.) Battery life: One of the scarcest resources on a mobile device
> and something that we aim
> to protect as much as possible. Allowing arbitrary background
> processing hurts a lot here, with Android's
> lifecycle approach being one of the examples where battery life
> deteriorates and becomes unpredictable
> depending on the apps that have been installed on the device. Now this
> wouldn't be a problem for the
> quite technical audience subscribed to this mailing list. But it is
> certainly an issue for the average user who
> should not be forced to maintain a list of running apps and processes
> just to achieve sensible battery life.
>
> (2.) Security & privacy: One of the worst case examples are apps
> running in the background, feeding on a device's
> sensor data and sending it off to the cloud. There have been numerous
> examples exploiting the issue on Android.
> Again, the technical audience subscribed here would be fine, the
> average user likely is not.
>
> (3.) Predictable performance: A phone is expected to perform whenever
> it is needed to, and the application being front & center
> to the user should provide a smooth and crisp experience. To this end,
> the system has to be able to assign as much performance-relevant
> resources as possible to the currently focused app. If arbitrary
> background processing is allowed, the respective scheduling problem
> becomes
> very very hard to solve (if possible at all).
>
> Please note that there are way more aspects to this problem space than
> just the three points I elaborated on before.
> The key point is: For a technical or tech-savvy audience, the
> lifecycle approach we are taking for the phone might seem overly
> restricted.
> However, for the average user, such a harsh policy comes with a lot of
> benefits.
>
But average users don't want to use phone that is limited in that way.
For now that system is for some technical guys; if we want to target Ubuntu
Touch for larger audience we need provide ability to work apps in
background - why people use smartphones a lot of time? Because they can
track their sports, use their favorite chatting app (and get notifications
from it, even when it's 'closed'), get synced data from cloud, get notify
about attack on their castle in favorite online game, etc.
If we don't allow to do that things in easier way, Ubuntu will don't get
too much big market apps, consequently Ubuntu will don't get too much
non-technical users and that harsh policy wouldn't be useful for any one -
there will be no people to appreciate that harsh policy.

>
> > Why? Let me make a list of examples.
> >
> > - Open Telegram for Ubuntu, send a picture to a friend, switch to
> > another app or scope. On any other platform the message would continue
> > to be sent in the background, but not on Ubuntu. Now you might say
> > "Telegram is going to become a Telepathy plugin, and that one can run in
> > the background", but there is no sign of a Telepathy system service and
> > even if it were already present, you're now forcing everybody to build
> > Telepathy plugins for their services. That's just not going to happen.
> > Let's be honest, WhatsApp and Viber and friends will not go this way for
> > a number of very good (economic) reasons.
> >
> > - Notifications for the myriads of services out there. On any other
> > platform the app would just register a small background service that
> > wakes up every minute or so and then goes to sleep again. Now you might
> > say "We have the Ubuntu Pu

[Ubuntu-phone] Compile Core app

2015-10-05 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I need to compile some Core App with little changed code (for testing
purpose), how can I do that? I mean all steps: How to get source code in
simplest way, best way to edit project, compile it and how to install it?
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[Ubuntu-phone] URL dispatcher in webbrowser

2015-10-11 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
is there a possibility in web browser use url dispatcher functionality or
is that a know bug/wishlist in launchpad (or should I report that) ?

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[Ubuntu-phone] Improvement of NearBy scope

2015-10-11 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I think now NearBy scope is pretty useless on MX4 with mobile data (not
WiFi), because of really bad discovering position. If I do'n't use some
navi app before refreshing NearBy, position is not accurate as it should. I
think that is connected with gps fix that phone is getting while starting
navi app.
So for now it I want to get some usefull data from NearBy I'm opening HERE
maps, waiting for a gps fix (~ 1 minute) and refreshing scope. It's
probably contradict the assumption of quick access to information
In Android we can turn on Location History - it seems that phone is asking
for position in some short time periods, so phone don't lose gps fix and
knows almost all the time where it is.
Maybe such thing should be implemented (asking for GPS position every x
seconds/minutes) in Ubuntu? But in that case there should be some tests to
check battery drain.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] URL dispatcher in webbrowser

2015-10-11 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-10-12 1:41 GMT+02:00 Michał Sawicz :

> W dniu 11.10.2015 o 21:52, Olivier Tilloy pisze:
> > Can you please elaborate on what you mean by "using the url dispatcher
> > in the browser"?
> > The browser already delegates URLs with schemes it cannot handle to
> > the url dispatcher (e.g. "tel:", "mailto:";, "intent:" and the like).
> > If this doesn’t work it’s a bug indeed, but not a known one.
>
> I think what he meant is delegating URLs that the browser can handle,
> but there's an app registered for as well. I.e. the youtube app would
> (optionally, this likely depends on the URL dispatcher getting UI to
> select between multiple registered handlers for the same URL) be invoked
> for all youtube.com URLs, regardless that the browser can handle it
> internally.
>
>
Yes, exactly! :) Another example - browser should open Wikipedia app when
we visit their website. Does Canonical working on it?
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] URL dispatcher in webbrowser

2015-10-12 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-10-12 21:05 GMT+02:00 Olivier Tilloy :

> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2015-10-12 1:41 GMT+02:00 Michał Sawicz :
> >>
> >> W dniu 11.10.2015 o 21:52, Olivier Tilloy pisze:
> >> > Can you please elaborate on what you mean by "using the url dispatcher
> >> > in the browser"?
> >> > The browser already delegates URLs with schemes it cannot handle to
> >> > the url dispatcher (e.g. "tel:", "mailto:";, "intent:" and the like).
> >> > If this doesn’t work it’s a bug indeed, but not a known one.
> >>
> >> I think what he meant is delegating URLs that the browser can handle,
> >> but there's an app registered for as well. I.e. the youtube app would
> >> (optionally, this likely depends on the URL dispatcher getting UI to
> >> select between multiple registered handlers for the same URL) be invoked
> >> for all youtube.com URLs, regardless that the browser can handle it
> >> internally.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, exactly! :) Another example - browser should open Wikipedia app
> when we
> > visit their website. Does Canonical working on it?
>
> No, there is no such functionality in the browser, and we’re not
> planning on implementing it.
> oxide does have an API to register custom URL scheme handlers
> (WebContext.allowedExtraUrlSchemes), but that won’t work for
> overriding known schemes such as http.
>
> Thanks for your answer Olivier.
If you can please explain me why - is there technical problems, lack of
resources, security issues, philosophy of OS or other?

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>
>  Olivier
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[Ubuntu-phone] Width that edges will work

2015-10-18 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I'm on MX4 and I think that edges have got too short piece of screen that
causes edges responses.
Are there somewhere information how width of edges are set? Can it be
increased? Is it scaled with size of the screen (eg. 2% on either side),
pixels (ex. 10 px) or a metric (eg. 4 mm)?
I think the best solution would be metric (because when we get high density
in pixels, it will be unusable).
Could someone clarify it to me?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 15.10.15

2015-10-20 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

Does changing button color of 'restart' phone from green to grey was
intended or this is a bug?

2015-10-20 13:57 GMT+02:00 John McAleely :

>
>
> On Tuesday, 20 October 2015, Oliver Grawert  wrote:
>
>> hi,
>> Am Dienstag, den 20.10.2015, 13:26 +0200 schrieb Olivier Tilloy:
>> > Is the rc-proposed channel back to normal?
>> > My krillin running rc-proposed says it has an update to image #152
>> > that weighs 147MB, sounds like a lot for an incremental update (I’m at
>> > #149), could it be that it’s one of those images that goes back in
>> > time?
>> >
>> sounds pretty much like a new krillin device tarball ...
>
>
> Unlikely - there has not been one of those for a while.
>
> J
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[Ubuntu-phone] Screen on calling

2015-10-21 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

I found that screen isn't really turning off while we call and get phone
closer to our ear; phone is displaying black screen with minimum brightness.
Is that the bug?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu reminders

2015-10-21 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
Thanks Michael for fast response! :)
But that option 'Done" will do what? Only "Done" text will be worse -
people will think for what is 'Done' switch and what it do.
What is purpose to use 'Reminder done' option? Why someone want to create a
reminder (reminder is used to alarm us by some notification) that no
notification will appear (when we switch to 'On')?

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2015-10-21 12:05 GMT+02:00 Michael Zanetti :

> Talking to someone who understands polish, I realize where the issue is.
> The translation seems to say "Reminder created" while instead it should
> be "Reminder done". Thinking about that, this seems to be a bit
> misleading too. I will change the original text to just "Done" and add
> some better context for translators.
>
> Thanks for the report,
> Michael
>
> On 21.10.2015 11:55, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > if you mark the reminder as done (that should be "Utworzono
> > przypomnienie" afaict) it will not ring an alert when it is due.
> >
> > Only reminders that are not marked as done will cause a notification.
> > The checkbox is mostly there in order to remove it again. When you're in
> > the reminders view you can mark reminders as done by using the
> > swipe-actions on the list items. In case you accidentally marked a
> > reminder as done there, you can open this dialog and remove the tick
> > from the checkbox again in order to re-enable the notification.
> >
> > I understand this is not exactly intuitive. I'll think of a nicer way to
> > do this.
> >
> > Br,
> > Michael
> >
> > On 21.10.2015 11:34, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> In Ubuntu Notes app there is such thing as belowObraz w treści 1
> >> I don't understand how it works.
> >> 1. When I set date and time, leave unticked 'Utworzono przypomnienie'
> >> and click 'Zapisz' - reminder will be set or no?
> >> 2. When I set date and time, tick 'Utworzono przypomnienie' and click
> >> 'Zapisz' - reminder will be set or no?
> >>
> >> If that two cases is doing the same thing - set reminder, so why there
> >> is that field with tick?
> >> Wouldn't be better to leave only calendar, clock set and create buttons
> >> 'Delete reminder' and 'Set reminder'?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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[Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 released

2015-10-21 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Is there any battery improvment in OTA-7? Because after first full charge I
noticed that my phone using little less energy (or battery stats are
wrong). I'm on MX4 stable channel.

W dniu poniedziałek, 19 października 2015 
napisał(a):
> Okay Pat,  thank you for the reply. I'll get what I've come across logged.
> If there are any duplications,  then I do apologise.
>
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> Monday, 19 October 2015, 09:16pm +01:00 from Pat McGowan <
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>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 4:09 PM,  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Could someone kindly direct me to which bugs are still outstanding,
which may have not been part of the OTA 7 roll out.
> I found a few new issues since the update on my MX4 and didn't wish to
report anything that developers already aware of or are working on.
>
> I am afraid that list is a tad long.:( Feel free to report the issues,
the maintainers can easily find the dupes and we much prefer that to not
knowing the problems.
> Pat
>
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> Monday, 19 October 2015, 07:59pm +01:00 from Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak <
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> Hello!
>
> Do not worry, OTA-7 is currently in phased update state - meaning that
> the upgrade is sent out to users in 'phases' (steps). With each step
> more and more random users are getting the new update. The phasing
> should end around tomorrow morning, with everyone getting the update on
> their devices.
>
> Cheers!
>
> W dniu 19.10.2015 o 20:53, Florin Lungu pisze:
>> Hi all,
>> i have a BQ aquaris e5 hd (vegeta) but the last week i didn't received
>> the ota7 update and now when i go to check for updates it tells me that
>> i have the last update but its ota 6 (r5) version.
>>
>> Maybe i will receive the ota7 update in next days.
>>
>> sorry for my english :D
>>
>> Il 19/10/2015 20:29, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak ha scritto:
>>> Hello Yann!
>>>
>>> This depends on the device you're using. If you have a BQ device
>>> (krillin or vegetahd), there will be no update as the early OTA-7 update
>>> from last week is exactly the same. For Meizu users (arale), there will
>>> be an additional update as we modified a small thing in the device
>>> tarball that wasn't ready last week.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> W dniu 19.10.2015 o 18:46, Yann pisze:
 Hello

 Is it also available for those who received an early update ?

 Yann

 On 19/10/2015 11:49, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> As it's Monday today and all our testing has been finished, we have
> started the phased update procedure for OTA-7! This means that in less
> than 24 hours all users should receive proper update notifications for
> this release.
>
> As already mentioned on Friday, the release notes page for this OTA
> includes all the necessary information - along with changes, image
> numbers, issues and commitlogs:
> * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-7
>
> Once again big thanks to everyone participating in this release! There
> was some minor confusion introduced this time by minor mistakes, but
in
> the end we managed to provide the update on time.
>
> Now, time to work on OTA-8.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Best regards,
>

>>>
>>
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[Ubuntu-phone] Suggestion about translations / additional small release for strings after OTA

2015-10-22 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

I'm working everyday as hard as I can translating strings into Polish. But
very often when new OTA is released, there are some texts to be
corrected. Sometimes because of our mistake and sometimes that we do not
know how environment of the text looks like, is it a button, etc.
For now, when we found some error with OS, we must wait for next OTA and
live with that 4-8 weeks.
Is there a possibility to add some small updates for translations only
after OTA (maybe 3-5 days after OTA)?

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[Ubuntu-phone] Rethinking about top bar

2015-10-22 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

I'm looking about top bar and I see that we're wasting a lot of space for
blank things. Date and time is good, because there are items from calendar,
Network also.
But look at Rotating and Files parts - that two are used a fewer (and there
is a lot of blank space from middle to bottom part) and because of them
there is more labels to swipe left-right. I know that them are really
important also and must be there, but maybe we should consider re-design
top bar to be more useful and simply? Swiping is cool, but here
unnecessarily increases the number of steps to achieve the effect.

Also maybe connect Bluetooth with Network?
Maybe below arrangement would be better:

|  Plane mode|
|  Telephony network   |
|  WiFi|   Bluetooth  |
||

I mean putting WiFi and Bluetooth part on one page/bar divided left/right
sides in half of screen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Big battery drain after OTA-7

2015-10-28 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Pawel,

sorry, for now I can't (I've no access to personal computer for few
days and in work there is Windows with USB blocked ;) ).


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2015-10-28 12:33 GMT+01:00 Pawel Stolowski :
> Hi,
>
> Could you please check with 'top' (from adb console, or via ssh) if there
> are any processes eating up CPU when you experience freezes or battery is
> draining faster than usual?
>
> Cheers,
> Pawel
>
>
> On 28.10.2015 12:29, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> please look at attachment.
>> First of all I must admin that usually my MX4 (stable channel) after
>> last OTA has really low battery consumption, usually it was 2-4 % per
>> 8 hours of idle [mobile network is off]. How I get that score? -
>> charge battery full before I went sleep, unplug it from charger and
>> set alarm clock (rest of apps I've swiped out).
>> That one time (that from screen) I've done: charge battery full before
>> sleep, unplug it from charger, use some apps (gmail webapp,
>> webbrowser, scopes, messanger, dialer) that drain ~5%. And I go sleep
>> without swiping out apps I've used. At morning 6 a.m. there was only
>> ~45% battery left. I've swiped out apps and till 9 a.m. there was no
>> battery drain. I don't know if there is a problem with battery stats
>> or there is really high energy usage.
>> I must also admit that at few minutes after 6:00 my phone freeze for
>> couple of minutes (I've restarted it). And I'm observing that my phone
>> (after last OTA) freeze few times everyday, sometimes for ~10 seconds,
>> sometimes for few minutes.
>> Could anyone confirm that bugs (battery drain and freezes) or test them?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Big battery drain after OTA-7

2015-10-28 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
I've always GPS turned on. But before there was no negative impact on
battery usage (like said before - 2-4% per 8 hours of idle).

2015-10-28 14:13 GMT+01:00 Victor Gonzalez :

> Hi!
>
> In the attached screenshot, GPS appears turned on . Was it turned on all
> the time? Because GPS turned on around 10 hours even in idle could be the
> reason of that battery stats.
>
> Does it behaves the same way without having GPS on?.
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> El 28/10/2015 a las 12:29, Krzysztof Tataradziński escribió:
>
> Hello,
>
> please look at attachment.
> First of all I must admin that usually my MX4 (stable channel) after
> last OTA has really low battery consumption, usually it was 2-4 % per
> 8 hours of idle [mobile network is off]. How I get that score? -
> charge battery full before I went sleep, unplug it from charger and
> set alarm clock (rest of apps I've swiped out).
> That one time (that from screen) I've done: charge battery full before
> sleep, unplug it from charger, use some apps (gmail webapp,
> webbrowser, scopes, messanger, dialer) that drain ~5%. And I go sleep
> without swiping out apps I've used. At morning 6 a.m. there was only
> ~45% battery left. I've swiped out apps and till 9 a.m. there was no
> battery drain. I don't know if there is a problem with battery stats
> or there is really high energy usage.
> I must also admit that at few minutes after 6:00 my phone freeze for
> couple of minutes (I've restarted it). And I'm observing that my phone
> (after last OTA) freeze few times everyday, sometimes for ~10 seconds,
> sometimes for few minutes.
> Could anyone confirm that bugs (battery drain and freezes) or test them?
>
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[Ubuntu-phone] Scopes additional sources proposal

2015-10-30 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

I'm curious what do you think about below idea:

In every scope that can use multiply sources there should be button
(probably in options of Scope) to check additional not installed
sources in Store.
How should it work?
When we tap that button, Store scope should open and show what we need
(similar to Ubuntu Store on desktops, please see picture (add-ons
part))

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pmDuahPQinQ/TmqHAi2E7TI/ARc/FJ9CiK2Yel0/s1600/gimp.png

For now I don't know what other sources News Scope can aggregate and
what can't. Some kind of depending tree in Store (showing what Scopes
can be used with other one) will be helpful.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-7 and Battery Life on MX4

2015-11-05 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
I can also confirm that usage of battery on MX4 is better while idle
(2-4% per 8 hours).

2015-11-05 12:01 GMT+01:00 Peter Spiers :
> It seems that battery life has become greatly reduced on my MX4 since the
> last OTA-7 update.
> I'm unsure if this is something to do with my daily use of the phone or if
> this is a known problem.
> having left the device on charge during the night, by mid day with little
> interaction it 50% full.
> Granted I have the wifi enabled and Bluetooth for connection to my vehicle.
> I'm not doing anything different today than what I've done before the recent
> update.
>
> Has anyone else any recent experience of battery life performance of their
> MX4 device.
> Does this also effect other devices that have been updated?
>
> Thanks
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[Ubuntu-phone] MX4 Freeze after latest OTA

2015-11-05 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

did you guys noticed some random freezes of MX4? My phone in stable
channel freeze sometimes while trying to unlock phone or in web
browser (after 10-30 sec. everything back to normal). That started
happening after latest OTA.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MX4 Freeze after latest OTA

2015-11-05 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
There is only one file from 2nd of November, rest is from 31th of
October; but I've freeze even today.

2015-11-05 16:05 GMT+01:00 Kevin Gunn :
> mind checking the /var/crash/ directory for crash files, sounds like crash
> reports being collected.
> br,kg
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> did you guys noticed some random freezes of MX4? My phone in stable
>> channel freeze sometimes while trying to unlock phone or in web
>> browser (after 10-30 sec. everything back to normal). That started
>> happening after latest OTA.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MX4 Freeze after latest OTA

2015-11-05 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-11-05 17:00 GMT+01:00 Julia Palandri :
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński
>  wrote:
>>
>> There is only one file from 2nd of November, rest is from 31th of
>> October; but I've freeze even today.
>>
>
> Do you usually do other stuff with the phone and you only see this behavior
> when using the web browser and/or unlocking , or this just happens to be the
> things you do the most and then the freezing will be "every now and then"?
>
For now I didn't saw any pattern, but I will try to investigate it
deeper and after that I will update.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MX4 Freeze after latest OTA

2015-11-05 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-11-05 19:13 GMT+01:00 Tony Espy :
> On 11/05/2015 09:27 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> did you guys noticed some random freezes of MX4? My phone in stable
>> channel freeze sometimes while trying to unlock phone or in web
>> browser (after 10-30 sec. everything back to normal). That started
>> happening after latest OTA.
>
>
> Two questions...
>
> 1. Do these freezes only happen when WiFi is enabled?
Didn't noticed, I will try to look on that detail.
>
> 2. A second question is whether or not you have an app (HERE) or scope ( eg.
> Today or Nearby ) that uses location services?
I've all of them, but I don't use HERE maps. Only sometimes Nearby for
testing and uNav for navi. GPS and location is turned on all the time.
>
> Regards,
> /tony
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[Ubuntu-phone] Missing text in SMS

2015-11-06 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

is below case a known bug?

I've received SMS from my girlfriend, but cut off. I mean that she sent me
'bla bla bla, bla, bla bla'
and I get
'bla bla bla, b'.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MX4 Freeze after latest OTA

2015-11-06 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-11-06 11:35 GMT+01:00 Alberto Mardegan :
> On 05.11.2015 17:27, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>> did you guys noticed some random freezes of MX4? My phone in stable
>> channel freeze sometimes while trying to unlock phone or in web
>> browser (after 10-30 sec. everything back to normal). That started
>> happening after latest OTA.
>
> After the phone unfreezes, do you still have your applications running,
> or were they terminated?
> If they were terminated, it means that unity8 crashed.
>
No, they are running.
> Ciao,
>   Alberto
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[Ubuntu-phone] Really good job with battery usage

2015-11-07 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Dear All,

First of all I want to thank everyone working to get Ubuntu better and
better, especially people worked to provide lower battery consumption.
For me (MX4, latest stable channel, after full wipe) usage while idle
(with GPS on, WiFi and mobile network off) is great. Thanks to that my
phone has still 45% after 65 hours. That's great score! :) Don't get
me wrong - I'm using my phone in normal way, maybe slightly less, but
still - few calls, texting, fast check RSS feeds.

After that short beginning, we came to question: Could anyone clarify
for me what was changed in latest OTA-7 that has really big impact on
battery life (before update, it was hard for me to survive without
charging 1.5 day)?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Really good job with battery usage

2015-11-07 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Maybe you should try to do low level full wipe (not factory reset)?

W dniu sobota, 7 listopada 2015  napisał(a):
> I don't understand how you can be getting better battery life since the
OTA-7 update.  My battery life is so poor it's not even lasting a full
day.  As before the update it lasted me two days without charge. I use my
phone for a few texts, Web surfing and calendar events. Leaving WiFi off
and Bluetooth on.  Most if the time my phone is left on standby while at
work.
> Yet the over battery performance has been dreadful,  compared to when I
first purchased the phone only a few months back.
>
> Could it be a faulty phone?
> Any other users of the MX4 had such poor performance in battery since
OTA-7?
>
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>
> Saturday, 07 November 2015, 09:36am +00:00 from Krzysztof Tataradziński <
ktatar...@gmail.com>:
>
> Dear All,
>
> First of all I want to thank everyone working to get Ubuntu better and
> better, especially people worked to provide lower battery consumption.
> For me (MX4, latest stable channel, after full wipe) usage while idle
> (with GPS on, WiFi and mobile network off) is great. Thanks to that my
> phone has still 45% after 65 hours. That's great score! :) Don't get
> me wrong - I'm using my phone in normal way, maybe slightly less, but
> still - few calls, texting, fast check RSS feeds.
>
> After that short beginning, we came to question: Could anyone clarify
> for me what was changed in latest OTA-7 that has really big impact on
> battery life (before update, it was hard for me to survive without
> charging 1.5 day)?
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
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[Ubuntu-phone] GPS fix running all the time

2015-11-17 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

I want to test battery usage in long time period while GPS sensor is
waked up and working all the time (even screen is off). Is there any
simple way to do that?
Expected result should be that:

(1) Phone is trying to get GPS fix -> when it get that, it should ask
for position every x seconds to keep it (and get new position of
course).

(2) When phone lose GPS fix (in example enter building), it should try
to get GPS fix every 2 minutes and when successful (exit building) ->
keep GPS fix all the time again.

If (2) is very hard to get, is it possible to continuous querying of
the position (1)?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] FM Radio

2015-11-17 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I want to touch that topic. Is anyone working on FM radio? Is there a
bug reported for that?

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2015-10-05 17:32 GMT+02:00 nick luigi eusebio :
> I've been waiting for this as well for the longest time :)
> One of the most important feature for me.
>
> 
> From: chg 1 
> To: "ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net" 
> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 5:23 PM
> Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] FM Radio
>
> I'd like to know if there is someone working on FM radio.
> Cheers,
> Cesar
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[Ubuntu-phone] Backlog vs OTA

2015-11-19 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
I'm just curious what with bugs fixed in backlog
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bugs?orderby=datecreated&start=0
do those fixes land in next available OTA?
What is priority of backlog comparing to OTA updates? Backlog mean
that feature/bug that should be done/repaired as fastest as it can? Is
that something that developers missed/forgot/other and users found
that in daily usage and hey - it need to be done ASAP?

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[Ubuntu-phone] NearBy bugs and Places + NearBy suggestions

2015-11-19 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

since today OTA, NearBy sometimes doesn't load data as it should.
Please see video for details:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eT0c4KVlZVJvDdmDKzOal6EhDAmBc66YIg/view

in example (1:18) there is a text 'Bankomaty (ATM)...', but showing weather.

1:20 - "Gry pomagające się wyładować (Games to let off some steam)" -
below that phase we can see hairdresser or beauty place.

2:09 - again "Bankomaty (ATM)...", but we see bars.

Choosing "Nudzę się (bored)" don't do nothing - loads the same data as
general "Jak się czujesz (how do you feel)".

I installed also Places scope and added it to NearBy. My suggestion:
there should be more results than 4 (if we choose 'see all', we see...
one more), like in Yelp. And pictures should be smaller.
Also in Places scope there should be option to rate place.

Anyone also noticed that bugs?

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[Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu phone calendar app

2015-11-20 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

where I can find strings responsible for name of month in that app
(https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app ) - and no, in that app
there aren't any month-name related strings.
I'm asking because we must correct them. In Polish we see 'Stycznia'
insted of 'Styczeń' in month view.

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[Ubuntu-phone] Forcing to install Twitter Scope

2015-11-21 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
After last OTA I see that in settings->updates there is twitter scope.
I've installed it. But I don't want to have it, so after 5-10 seconds
I've uninstalled it. But hey! In updates that scope appeared again.
Why Canonical is forcing to install that scope in all phones? They
think: hmm... Our users are too stupid to find that scope in Store and
check out how great it is, so we will force them to install it.

Don't get me wrong - After all OTA I'm doing full wipe to get phone
cleaned as much as I can. Next step -> I'm uninstalling all
Scopes/Apps that I don't use, because I want decide what I want to
have in my phone. Still can't uninstall amazon, ebay scopes. And now I
see pending install (formally 'update') of Twitter scope all the time.

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[Ubuntu-phone] AllSeen Alliance

2015-11-23 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

Does Canonical collaborate with https://allseenalliance.org/ ? If I
good understand, that is alliance that connect home appliance
companies with the one responsible for software (especially mobile)
allowing to work with each other without looking for OS; in example
Philips fridge will work with Iphone, Bosh washer will connect to
Android, etc. It's seems to fit to IoT. Is there a place for Ubuntu?
Has Canonical any plans to get phone working with that home appliance
devices?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] AllSeen Alliance

2015-11-23 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Thanks for clarification! :)

2015-11-23 14:51 GMT+01:00 sturmflut :
> Hi Krzysztof,
>
> sadly there are at least thirteen of these IoT Alliances (I know of
> IPSO, Intel IoT Solutions, AllSeen, AIOTI, Open Interconnect, the
> Bluetooth SIG, LoRa, Hypercat, Zigbee, Z-Wave, Acer Open C&C, the Thread
> Group and the Bridge Alliance) and they all think they have the one true
> solution.
>
> If I interpret
> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/05/11/iot-world-canonical-industry-leaders-drive-iot-commercialization/
> right, Canonical focuses on providing the operating system layer
> (Snappy) and lets other people decide what software they run on top of it.
>
> In theory Canonical doesn't really have to "get the phone working" with
> appliances as long as they can be talked to over some technology the
> phone supports (at the moment WiFi and Bluetooth). Take for example the
> "Shine" app by Michael Zanetti, it has been talking to Philips Hue lamps
> for months already. Add background processing and notifications and

What is Canonical current stance? Does that features in plan or not?
If yes, is there any schedule for that?

> somebody can just write apps for those thirteen other IoT standards.
>
> cheers,
> Simon
>
>
>
> Am 11/23/2015 um 11:41 AM schrieb Krzysztof Tataradziński:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Does Canonical collaborate with https://allseenalliance.org/ ? If I
>> good understand, that is alliance that connect home appliance
>> companies with the one responsible for software (especially mobile)
>> allowing to work with each other without looking for OS; in example
>> Philips fridge will work with Iphone, Bosh washer will connect to
>> Android, etc. It's seems to fit to IoT. Is there a place for Ubuntu?
>> Has Canonical any plans to get phone working with that home appliance
>> devices?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how report correct a bug

2015-11-27 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Dear Behrooz,

For every bug related to Ubuntu Phones, which You don't know where to
assign, please report at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image

2015-11-26 23:37 GMT+01:00 Behrooz Ramezani :
> Hello everyone
> I have a problem for bug report.I and users like me who haven't any
> experience on report bug alwasy cofused for place of bug. for example :
> I plug charger to nexus 4 in off mode. after few sec phone on automatic and
> ubuntu boot. i can't charge my phone in off mode. i check this bug with my
> friend who has nexus 4 with ubuntu phone and he has same bug. now how i know
> this bug for which part of ubuntu phone project on launchpad? for bugs what
> these part of mine project ubuntu phone is problem same.
> sorry for English
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[Ubuntu-phone] Not working features in stable OS

2015-11-28 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

Question about placing unfinished/not working features in OS. If we
look in example at Youtube or Soundcloud Scope, there is a login
option, but it doesn't working (for Youtube there is also option to
enable it in System Settings -> Accounts). So why that buttons with
not working login options are there? Maybe better would be to
delete/hide that buttons until there are repaired? Why OTA after OTA
we seeing them? Is it only bothers me viewing things that are not
working (since few OTAs) or that bother anyone else?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not working features in stable OS

2015-11-29 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2015-11-28 22:04 GMT+01:00 Gareth France :

> On 28/11/15 20:42, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Question about placing unfinished/not working features in OS. If we
>> look in example at Youtube or Soundcloud Scope, there is a login
>> option, but it doesn't working (for Youtube there is also option to
>> enable it in System Settings -> Accounts). So why that buttons with
>> not working login options are there? Maybe better would be to
>> delete/hide that buttons until there are repaired? Why OTA after OTA
>> we seeing them? Is it only bothers me viewing things that are not
>> working (since few OTAs) or that bother anyone else?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
>> If it bothers you to see rough edges then why purchase a phone with an
> operating system which is currently most famous for not being finished? We
> all accepted before purchase that we would be witnessing the development of
> the finished product.
>
>
Sorry, but I think You miss the point. In my opinion there is problem with
providing basic features that can be reached by hardware. Lets see at radio
FM - doesn't work. 4K recording in MX4 (146 days - aging of the bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471666 )
that was advertised when selling phone. Also proper resolution of the
photos - that is also long-aged bug not repaired yet.
Suppose that Canonical are making cars. There will develop high-end
electric car. They will told us that for now car can reach 100 km/h in 4.5
seconds, has range 560 km on one charge and some other cool features. But
you ask about breaks - why they are not working? You probably will hear: we
working on that, don't have hard deadline for that, but we must admit that
in next software update we improve battery charging and implement feature
that allow car to fly for 30 seconds. But you are thinking - why I need car
that can charge fast and fly, if it can't even brake? That is analogical
situation to convergence - we don't have some basic features worked in
every other phones, but ignoring them, Canonical is implementing some other
- of course that convergence feature is great and killing other mobile OSes
- but I don't care of that, if I can't even use radio FM, send files via
Bluetooth or download file that phone can't open without proper app.
I think that Canonical is missing something - there are many basic features
that are not working and should focus on them. Ubuntu has one of the most
active community in IT world, but I think there is problem with using its
resources and communication with it.
I also understand that Canonical has limited resources, but if there is a
problem with that - ask community what to.
My proposal is to create crowdfunding campaign and hire someone to work
with basic bugs/features. If that campaign would appear, it seems to me
that people will be more than happy, knowing that their money will go to
provide the basic functionality of their phones.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not working features in stable OS

2015-11-29 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
"Are those not working OS features equivalent to a car braking system? I
think not :) What are you really upset about? "
@Ionut Negru - I just want to point that there are many basic features
(like said before - share files via bluetooth, photos with proper
resolution and not blurred, radio FM (I read somewhere before that there is
even app for radio FM created by someone from community, but it will not
work until sth in OS will be repaired), etc.) not covered by Ubuntu OS,
while they are working on convergence. That last one is also really
important and Ubuntu need something new and fresh to get attention of wider
audience - but after short while many people could be disappointed.
Don't get me wrong - I love that system, it is on my daily phone and I'm
working really hard in my free time (mainly translating and filling bugs)
to get it better - but I think there is some problem with features
prioritization.

2015-11-29 19:28 GMT+01:00 Brendan Donegan :

> Hi Kryzystof,
>
> This appears to be working, at least for YouTube (at least for me).
> However this is with the rc-proposed branch so it could possibly have been
> fixed between OTA8 and this latest image. Have you filed a bug for the
> issue? It's usually a good idea to do this as if it was already raised it
> will get duplicated to the original bug and you will know when it is fixed,
> or if it wasn't raised then it will be brought to the attention of the
> development team - it might be that this bug doesn't appear with a clean
> install but only on an upgrade, or maybe at some point you made a change on
> your phone that exposed the bug.
>

I think that I saw somewhere bug with YouTube, but I can't find it now.
I filled some basic (in my opinion) bugs/features or mark them as they also
affect me
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmultimedia-opensource-src/+bug/1420896
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1473668
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1473936
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471666
https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1473773
https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1468341
and some others.

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Krzysztof Tataradziński
https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156


> Thanks,
>
> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 at 20:59 Krzysztof Tataradziński 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Question about placing unfinished/not working features in OS. If we
>> look in example at Youtube or Soundcloud Scope, there is a login
>> option, but it doesn't working (for Youtube there is also option to
>> enable it in System Settings -> Accounts). So why that buttons with
>> not working login options are there? Maybe better would be to
>> delete/hide that buttons until there are repaired? Why OTA after OTA
>> we seeing them? Is it only bothers me viewing things that are not
>> working (since few OTAs) or that bother anyone else?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
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[Ubuntu-phone] MMS bug?

2015-12-07 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

I found two problems related to MMS receiving. Look at screenshot with APN
settings - that is my default settings. I found that T-mobile.pl (MMS) and
heyahinternet (internet) turned on (ticked with green background)
automatically while I get MMS. Is that okey?
Second one - while I've got mobile data turned off, I can't get MMS. I
mean, that there is even no notification that there is pending MSS (and
with some tip 'turn mobile data on to download MMS').
Where's the problem? Please look at example:
8:00 Mobile data turned on

12:02 Mobile data turned off
...
12:04 - someone send us MMS
12:04 - we should get some information that there is MMS pending to
download - but we don't get it
...
12:10 Mobile data turned on
...
In that case we don't know that someone send us MMS. Am I correct? Is that
a bug?
Many people has usually mobile data turned off (because of battery and data
costs), so I think that is big problem to many of us.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MMS bug?

2015-12-07 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Summarizing, this bug is known by Canonical and someone is working on it?
Should I report bug at Launchpad or not?

2015-12-07 11:52 GMT+01:00 Alfonso Sanchez-Beato <
alfonso.sanchez-be...@canonical.com>:

>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Sergio Schvezov <
> sergio.schve...@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I found two problems related to MMS receiving. Look at screenshot with
>>> APN settings - that is my default settings. I found that T-mobile.pl (MMS)
>>> and heyahinternet (internet) turned on (ticked with green background)
>>> automatically while I get MMS. Is that okey?
>>> Second one - while I've got mobile data turned off, I can't get MMS. I
>>> mean, that there is even no notification that there is pending MSS (and
>>> with some tip 'turn mobile data on to download MMS').
>>> Where's the problem? Please look at example:
>>> 8:00 Mobile data turned on
>>> 
>>> 12:02 Mobile data turned off
>>> ...
>>> 12:04 - someone send us MMS
>>> 12:04 - we should get some information that there is MMS pending to
>>> download - but we don't get it
>>> ...
>>> 12:10 Mobile data turned on
>>> ...
>>> In that case we don't know that someone send us MMS. Am I correct? Is
>>> that a bug?
>>> Many people has usually mobile data turned off (because of battery and
>>> data costs), so I think that is big problem to many of us.
>>>
>>
>> We can surely do a better job here with notifications. It is in the back
>> burner to happen (store and forward).
>>
>> For what its worth, and this is indeed no justification, but it behaves
>> like this on android too, if data is off your MMS gets lost unless the MMS
>> engine of the provider insists on an *M-NotifyResp.ind *being sent (this
>> can indicate immediate or deferred downloads, but requires having data).
>>
>> A user level notification is also in order for when a *M-Notification.ind
>> *arrives and data is off.
>>
>
>
> There is a related bug that has been around for a while:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nuntium/+bug/1445380
>

It's similar, but about sending MMS, not pending to receive one.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu reminders

2015-12-09 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

any update about below topic? I'm asking, because string 'Utworzono
przypomnienie' is still there (in app) for a long time now. I see there was
some "523
<http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~notes-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/revision/523>.
Launchpad automatic translations update." Could anyone update version in
the Store?

2015-10-24 11:46 GMT+02:00 Michael Zanetti :

> Hi,
>
> Yes... maybe I'll just drop the checkbox in there and have some other
> way to undo the "done" flag.
>
> I'll see what I can come up with.
>
> Br,
> Michael
>
> On 24.10.2015 10:20, Bartosz Kosiorek wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Maybe we should change text to "Disable ringing" or "Skip next ring" or
> > similar?
> > For me even text in English are confused.
> > Maybe some explanation text should be added (as we have in many places
> > for system-settings)?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Bartosz
> >
> > On 21 Oct 2015 14:46, "Michael Zanetti"  > <mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > On 21.10.2015 13:51, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > Thanks Michael for fast response! :)
> > > But that option 'Done" will do what? Only "Done" text will be
> worse -
> > > people will think for what is 'Done' switch and what it do.
> > > What is purpose to use 'Reminder done' option? Why someone want to
> > > create a reminder (reminder is used to alarm us by some
> notification)
> > > that no notification will appear (when we switch to 'On')?
> >
> > Please see my previous reply below for the answer:
> >
> > > On 21.10.2015 11:55, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> > > > Only reminders that are not marked as done will cause a
> > notification.
> > > > The checkbox is mostly there in order to remove it again.
> When
> > > you're in
> > > > the reminders view you can mark reminders as done by using
> the
> > > > swipe-actions on the list items. In case you accidentally
> > marked a
> > > > reminder as done there, you can open this dialog and remove
> > the tick
> > > > from the checkbox again in order to re-enable the
> notification.
> >
> >
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu reminders

2015-12-09 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Also I want to touch one thing:
when reminder is set up, we can see it at top notification bar (in clock
part). When we click on it, that action opens Calendar app. Is it intended
or a bug? I think that action should open Notes app, because in Calendar
app we don't see anything related our note

2015-12-09 11:54 GMT+01:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :

> Hello,
>
> any update about below topic? I'm asking, because string 'Utworzono
> przypomnienie' is still there (in app) for a long time now. I see there was
> some "523
> <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~notes-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/revision/523>.
> Launchpad automatic translations update." Could anyone update version in
> the Store?
>
> 2015-10-24 11:46 GMT+02:00 Michael Zanetti 
> :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes... maybe I'll just drop the checkbox in there and have some other
>> way to undo the "done" flag.
>>
>> I'll see what I can come up with.
>>
>> Br,
>> Michael
>>
>> On 24.10.2015 10:20, Bartosz Kosiorek wrote:
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > Maybe we should change text to "Disable ringing" or "Skip next ring" or
>> > similar?
>> > For me even text in English are confused.
>> > Maybe some explanation text should be added (as we have in many places
>> > for system-settings)?
>> >
>> > Best Regards
>> > Bartosz
>> >
>> > On 21 Oct 2015 14:46, "Michael Zanetti" > > <mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> >
>> > On 21.10.2015 13:51, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>> > > Thanks Michael for fast response! :)
>> > > But that option 'Done" will do what? Only "Done" text will be
>> worse -
>> > > people will think for what is 'Done' switch and what it do.
>> > > What is purpose to use 'Reminder done' option? Why someone want to
>> > > create a reminder (reminder is used to alarm us by some
>> notification)
>> > > that no notification will appear (when we switch to 'On')?
>> >
>> > Please see my previous reply below for the answer:
>> >
>> > > On 21.10.2015 11:55, Michael Zanetti wrote:
>> > > > Only reminders that are not marked as done will cause a
>> > notification.
>> > > > The checkbox is mostly there in order to remove it again.
>> When
>> > > you're in
>> > > > the reminders view you can mark reminders as done by using
>> the
>> > > > swipe-actions on the list items. In case you accidentally
>> > marked a
>> > > > reminder as done there, you can open this dialog and remove
>> > the tick
>> > > > from the checkbox again in order to re-enable the
>> notification.
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu reminders

2015-12-09 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Thanks, but what about translations?

2015-12-09 12:16 GMT+01:00 Michael Zanetti :

> Hi
>
> On 09.12.2015 11:58, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
> > Also I want to touch one thing:
> > when reminder is set up, we can see it at top notification bar (in clock
> > part). When we click on it, that action opens Calendar app. Is it
> > intended or a bug? I think that action should open Notes app, because in
> > Calendar app we don't see anything related our note
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtorganizer5-eds/+bug/1426505
>
> >
> > 2015-12-09 11:54 GMT+01:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński  > <mailto:ktatar...@gmail.com>>:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > any update about below topic? I'm asking, because string 'Utworzono
> > przypomnienie' is still there (in app) for a long time now. I see
> > there was some "523
> > <
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~notes-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/revision/523
> >.
> > Launchpad automatic translations update." Could anyone update
> > version in the Store?
>

Are there any plans to update them?


> >
> > 2015-10-24 11:46 GMT+02:00 Michael Zanetti
> > mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com
> >>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes... maybe I'll just drop the checkbox in there and have some
> > other
> > way to undo the "done" flag.
> >
> > I'll see what I can come up with.
> >
> > Br,
> > Michael
> >
> > On 24.10.2015 10:20, Bartosz Kosiorek wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Maybe we should change text to "Disable ringing" or "Skip next
> ring" or
> > > similar?
> > > For me even text in English are confused.
> > > Maybe some explanation text should be added (as we have in
> many places
> > > for system-settings)?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Bartosz
> > >
> > > On 21 Oct 2015 14:46, "Michael Zanetti" <
> michael.zane...@canonical.com <mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com>
> > > <mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com
> > <mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > >
> > > On 21.10.2015 13:51, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Thanks Michael for fast response! :)
> > > > But that option 'Done" will do what? Only "Done" text
> > will be worse -
> > > > people will think for what is 'Done' switch and what it
> do.
> > > > What is purpose to use 'Reminder done' option? Why
> > someone want to
> > > > create a reminder (reminder is used to alarm us by some
> > notification)
> > > > that no notification will appear (when we switch to
> 'On')?
> > >
> > > Please see my previous reply below for the answer:
> > >
> > > > On 21.10.2015 11:55, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> > > > > Only reminders that are not marked as done will
> > cause a
> > > notification.
> > > > > The checkbox is mostly there in order to remove it
> > again. When
> > > > you're in
> > > > > the reminders view you can mark reminders as done
> > by using the
> > > > > swipe-actions on the list items. In case you
> > accidentally
> > > marked a
> > > > > reminder as done there, you can open this dialog
> > and remove
> > > the tick
> > > > > from the checkbox again in order to re-enable the
> > notification.
> > >
> > >
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[Ubuntu-phone] Long time to get GPS fix - hardware of software problem?

2016-01-03 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

We all know that on MX4 getting GPS fix takes really long time (30 sec - 2
min), making scopes like NearBy useless in most of cases. I have a look at
budget LG L Fino with Android and compared it to MX4.
In both phones test was the same: at start mobile data and WiFi turned off.
Next step - turning mobile data on, opening GPS app (Google Maps and uNav)
and waiting for proper location.
MX4 time - as mentioned above. LG L Fino - I didn't notice when it find
location - it was that fast (simply when Maps finished opening, I saw
correct location). Could anyone explain why budget phone can find location
in 1-2 sec and mid-to-high-end MX4 can't? Is there hardware problem or
software? Maybe in LG L Fino, system is asking for location all the time
keeping GPS fix all the time it can? Is there anything we can do with
data, even at the cost of battery usage? (for now, I can use MX4 even 4-5
days without charging - but I would prefer to charge it even 1,5 days if
that could improve location services)

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Long time to get GPS fix - hardware of software problem?

2016-01-04 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

2016-01-03 21:21 GMT+01:00 Thomas Voß :

> Hey there,
>
> thanks for your feedback. Let me try to provide some detail regarding your
> questions:
>
> (1.) Whether you are using a mid-to-high-end or a budget phone does hardly
> have any impact on the positioning performance in general. GPS just is
> quite slow.
>

So why in example LG L Fino can find proper location in 1-5 seconds? It is
possible to see how they do that and implement the same / similar solution
in our Ubuntu phones?


> (2.) Assisted GPS, relying on network-based positioning taking into
> account wifi hotspots and cell towers is enabled for all production images.
> (3.) 30 seconds - 2 minutes for a position estimate with GPS accuracy is
> pretty good, actually. Some more details on the timing here:
>   * ~15 seconds are required to obtain an initial position estimate based
> on visible wifi networks and cell towers. The accuracy for this estimate is
> typically around ~100m, but
> can be as low as ~30m (in typical cases).
>   * This initial position estimate is fed into the GPS chipset which is
> already active, and it takes ~20 seconds - multiple minutes for the chipset
> to come back with a
> a position estimate.
>
> That being said, we are working on improving the overall user experience
> by caching the last known position estimates and handing those out right
> after an
> application has requested location services to become active. The
> algorithm requires some careful tuning, as with every other caching
> approach, though.
>
> Please note that it is very unlikely that we will provide an option to
> keep the gps chipset on all the time. Battery life would be a disaster, as
> the GPS chipset
> is draining a *lot* of power. We would be talking a few hours for the
> battery to discharge, if we kept the chipset active.
>
> Feel free to file a bug against location services if you think that there
> is any specific optimization for minimizing time-to-first-fix that we are
> missing:
>
>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service
>
> HTH,
>
>   Thomas
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> ​​
>>
>> We all know that on MX4 getting GPS fix takes really long time (30 sec -
>> 2 min), making scopes like NearBy useless in most of cases. I have a look
>> at budget LG L Fino with Android and compared it to MX4.
>> In both phones test was the same: at start mobile data and WiFi turned
>> off. Next step - turning mobile data on, opening GPS app (Google Maps and
>> uNav) and waiting for proper location.
>> MX4 time - as mentioned above. LG L Fino - I didn't notice when it find
>> location - it was that fast (simply when Maps finished opening, I saw
>> correct location). Could anyone explain why budget phone can find location
>> in 1-2 sec and mid-to-high-end MX4 can't? Is there hardware problem or
>> software? Maybe in LG L Fino, system is asking for location all the time
>> keeping GPS fix all the time it can? Is there anything we can do with
>> data, even at the cost of battery usage? (for now, I can use MX4 even 4-5
>> days without charging - but I would prefer to charge it even 1,5 days if
>> that could improve location services)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Long time to get GPS fix - hardware of software problem?

2016-01-04 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hi

2016-01-04 16:39 GMT+01:00 Thomas Voß :

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> 2016-01-03 21:21 GMT+01:00 Thomas Voß :
>>
>>> Hey there,
>>>
>>> thanks for your feedback. Let me try to provide some detail regarding
>>> your questions:
>>>
>>> (1.) Whether you are using a mid-to-high-end or a budget phone does
>>> hardly have any impact on the positioning performance in general. GPS just
>>> is quite slow.
>>>
>>
>> So why in example LG L Fino can find proper location in 1-5 seconds? It
>> is possible to see how they do that and implement the same / similar
>> solution in our Ubuntu phones?
>>
>
>
> Please refer to the second part of my answer, explaining in detail that we
> are taking a very similar approach to what android is doing. We are relying
> on a different network-based positioning service (namely, Here), though.
> One other thing: How do you know that you received a gps fix on the LG L
> Fino?
>

Like I said before
"at start mobile data and WiFi turned off. Next step - turning mobile data
on, opening GPS app (Google Maps and uNav) and waiting for proper location."
In details, while going to work at moring, I exit my building, turned
mobile data on (on both phones I've got GPS switch turned on all the time),
etc. On Google Maps there is a ring showing accuracy. When app started, I
saw circle with 2-4 meters radius right where I was.

>
> Cheers,​
>
> ​Thomas​
>
>>
>>
>>> (2.) Assisted GPS, relying on network-based positioning taking into
>>> account wifi hotspots and cell towers is enabled for all production images.
>>> (3.) 30 seconds - 2 minutes for a position estimate with GPS accuracy is
>>> pretty good, actually. Some more details on the timing here:
>>>   * ~15 seconds are required to obtain an initial position estimate
>>> based on visible wifi networks and cell towers. The accuracy for this
>>> estimate is typically around ~100m, but
>>> can be as low as ~30m (in typical cases).
>>>   * This initial position estimate is fed into the GPS chipset which is
>>> already active, and it takes ~20 seconds - multiple minutes for the chipset
>>> to come back with a
>>> a position estimate.
>>>
>>> That being said, we are working on improving the overall user experience
>>> by caching the last known position estimates and handing those out right
>>> after an
>>> application has requested location services to become active. The
>>> algorithm requires some careful tuning, as with every other caching
>>> approach, though.
>>>
>>> Please note that it is very unlikely that we will provide an option to
>>> keep the gps chipset on all the time. Battery life would be a disaster, as
>>> the GPS chipset
>>> is draining a *lot* of power. We would be talking a few hours for the
>>> battery to discharge, if we kept the chipset active.
>>>
>>> Feel free to file a bug against location services if you think that
>>> there is any specific optimization for minimizing time-to-first-fix that we
>>> are missing:
>>>
>>>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>>   Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
>>> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> ​​
>>>>
>>>> We all know that on MX4 getting GPS fix takes really long time (30 sec
>>>> - 2 min), making scopes like NearBy useless in most of cases. I have a look
>>>> at budget LG L Fino with Android and compared it to MX4.
>>>> In both phones test was the same: at start mobile data and WiFi turned
>>>> off. Next step - turning mobile data on, opening GPS app (Google Maps and
>>>> uNav) and waiting for proper location.
>>>> MX4 time - as mentioned above. LG L Fino - I didn't notice when it find
>>>> location - it was that fast (simply when Maps finished opening, I saw
>>>> correct location). Could anyone explain why budget phone can find location
>>>> in 1-2 sec and mid-to-high-end MX4 can't? Is there hardware problem or
>>>> software? Maybe in LG L Fino, system is asking for location all the time
>>>> keeping GPS fix all the time it can? Is there anything we can do with
>>>> data, even at the cost of batter

[Ubuntu-phone] Differences in camera options - how to understand them?

2016-01-15 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

in Camera app, in options we have low, normal and best quality. What does
that options do? Is it really necessary to have them? Different ISO,
shutter? I think it's obvious that we always want to best quality of
picture.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Differences in camera options - how to understand them?

2016-01-15 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Thanks for replay :)
So maybe somewhere there should be some info/tip about what does that
options do?

2016-01-15 17:46 GMT+01:00 Florian Boucault 
:

> Hi Krzysztof,
>
> Low/normal/best quality correspond to the amount of JPEG compression used.
> Low means it will not look as good but it will take less space on disk.
> Some people are willing to make that compromise.
>
> Florian
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <
> ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> in Camera app, in options we have low, normal and best quality. What does
>> that options do? Is it really necessary to have them? Different ISO,
>> shutter? I think it's obvious that we always want to best quality of
>> picture.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
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[Ubuntu-phone] Automatic sync calendar, gmail

2016-01-23 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

Short problem: Gmail pools server from time to time to check if there are
some new e-mails? What about Calendar app - does it automatically sync with
server in some short time periods or after every change I must use 'sync'
button in options? Does it sync with google server calendar, even app is
closed?
Global problem: Good approach would be if in apps (especially core apps) we
can find tips like
'to sync your calendar with server, use 'sync' button'
'you calendar will be automatically synced with server'
'weather data automatically refresh every hour/every app open',
etc.
In Android I know all my core (Google's) apps/widgets are auto synced with
servers; in Ubuntu I don't know where I should manually try to sync/refresh
data in app/scope or where I can rely on automatic sync.

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[Ubuntu-phone] Url handler for location services

2016-01-23 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
in example, for now if we want to open some mp3 (from example file
manager), we get window to choose app which should open it (Ubuntu Music
app and some others if we have some). If I good understand that, there is
some url handler or content-hub (don't know which one) what decide which
apps can open file / do specific action (like in Gmail when we want to
attach file - we can use file manager, gallery app, etc.).
My question is related to location services - is there similar feature to
handle that? We can add, in details of contact in contacts app, some
information about address of person. Great feature would be to make that
information 'clickable' - I mean, when we click on address in details of
contact, OS will open window with ask in which app we want to look at that
place (in example there should be uNav and HERE maps). What do you think?
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[Ubuntu-phone] OTA-9 some new bugs

2016-01-28 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

I'm right after full wipe (with --bootstrap option), image with OTA-9, to
do some 'clean' tests and found some new bugs.

1. Regarding
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1521159
bug expanded - I found one person in my favorite tab in phone that was
there some time ago (but I've deleted it from there in google.com/contacts)
- now I've marked 4 contacts with a star - none of them are in favorite tab
in Contacts app. Even more, I can't find some contacts in phone in normal
'All contacts' tab (yes, I can see them in google.com/contacts and in
android phone contacts app), approximately 4-10 contacts missing in app.
Maybe API changed?

2. Tagger - known bug - really annoying.

3. Camera app with MX4.
a) When I switched first time to front camera and go to resolution options
I found that there was some '5:4' (or sth similar) option without (x.x MP)
string chosen by default. I've changed into 7:4 (2.1MP) and that 'old'
'5:4' disappeared (sounds good) - point is that there should be any '5:4'
option at default to choose in front camera.
b) Flash don't work while taking photos, even when I 'force' to use it in
options.

4. Why Ubuntu/Canonical apparently from one OTA to next OTA leave-as-is
features that don't work? Example:
a) Soundcloud scope - since I bought my phone (summer 2015), I can't login
into my account in that scope.
b) Youtube scope and settings in Accounts part in System settings: can't
login in scope, switch in Accounts part regarding Google's Youtube also
don't work.
It should be repaired or removed (I mean only login buttons and switch in
system settings) from default OS images until fix.

I'm really supporting Ubuntu as much as I can (recently a little less,
because I changed my job and do not have time :/), but there are some bugs
for a long time that makes me really angry, like
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1473668
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/camera-app/+bug/1471666
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bug/1483662
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1401802
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmultimedia-opensource-src/+bug/1420896
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1472631
or plenty in
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-application-lifecycle
and many of them even without comment/ask for help/explanation where is the
problem to fix bug.
Is there anything we can do to speed up bug fixing process? Maybe there
should be some 1-3 days event called 'Ubuntu mobile bug Day', when people
meet and work with solving small, but annoying bugs as many as can they? Or
maybe cooperate with technical universities - for now there is many
possibility to 'use' students (as well with benefits that students get
(knowledge, IT tools, significant relationship)? In my technical university
it works really good (we have mainly Apple and Microsoft).

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-9 some new bugs

2016-01-28 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
2016-01-28 22:51 GMT+01:00 Krzysztof Tataradziński :

> Hello,
>
> I'm right after full wipe (with --bootstrap option), image with OTA-9, to
> do some 'clean' tests and found some new bugs.
>
> 1. Regarding
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1521159
> bug expanded - I found one person in my favorite tab in phone that was
> there some time ago (but I've deleted it from there in google.com/contacts)
> - now I've marked 4 contacts with a star - none of them are in favorite tab
> in Contacts app. Even more, I can't find some contacts in phone in normal
> 'All contacts' tab (yes, I can see them in google.com/contacts and in
> android phone contacts app), approximately 4-10 contacts missing in app.
> Maybe API changed?
>
> About that, I think that's false alarm for now. I found where was problem
- probably one of syncs MX4 with my Google contacts account caused
displacement some contacts into 'Other' and removed it from 'My contacts'
group.


> 2. Tagger - known bug - really annoying.
>
> 3. Camera app with MX4.
> a) When I switched first time to front camera and go to resolution options
> I found that there was some '5:4' (or sth similar) option without (x.x MP)
> string chosen by default. I've changed into 7:4 (2.1MP) and that 'old'
> '5:4' disappeared (sounds good) - point is that there should be any '5:4'
> option at default to choose in front camera.
> b) Flash don't work while taking photos, even when I 'force' to use it in
> options.
>
> 4. Why Ubuntu/Canonical apparently from one OTA to next OTA leave-as-is
> features that don't work? Example:
> a) Soundcloud scope - since I bought my phone (summer 2015), I can't login
> into my account in that scope.
> b) Youtube scope and settings in Accounts part in System settings: can't
> login in scope, switch in Accounts part regarding Google's Youtube also
> don't work.
> It should be repaired or removed (I mean only login buttons and switch in
> system settings) from default OS images until fix.
>
> I'm really supporting Ubuntu as much as I can (recently a little less,
> because I changed my job and do not have time :/), but there are some bugs
> for a long time that makes me really angry, like
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1473668
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/camera-app/+bug/1471666
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bug/1483662
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1401802
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmultimedia-opensource-src/+bug/1420896
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1472631
> or plenty in
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-application-lifecycle
> and many of them even without comment/ask for help/explanation where is
> the problem to fix bug.
> Is there anything we can do to speed up bug fixing process? Maybe there
> should be some 1-3 days event called 'Ubuntu mobile bug Day', when people
> meet and work with solving small, but annoying bugs as many as can they? Or
> maybe cooperate with technical universities - for now there is many
> possibility to 'use' students (as well with benefits that students get
> (knowledge, IT tools, significant relationship)? In my technical university
> it works really good (we have mainly Apple and Microsoft).
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
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[Ubuntu-phone] Docking station

2016-02-11 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hi

Does anyone know that there will be some docking station for 10 inch BQ
tablet with Ubuntu? I think that something like that
http://www.tablety.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Samsung_Dock-320x306.jpg
would be great. In example I'm in travel and I need to write a lot of
texts. Instead of fighting with touch keyboard, I plugin my new shiny
tablet into that to move into mini PC:) I also think that there should be
some similar stuff for bigger phones (like MX4).
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[Ubuntu-phone] MMS while mobile data is off

2016-02-16 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

[1] is there any progress about that bug? Does any team working on that?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nuntium/+bug/1530630
I've missed a lot of MMS because of that case (I'm having almoast all the
time data mobile turned off to save battery and bandwidth).

[2] More general problem - does anyone working to add functionality to
receive push notifications from our mobile operators? Android can notify
about that showing some windows; in example while I'm phoning someone who
is busy and few minutes later he finish his phone call, I'm getting
"xxx-xxx-xxx is available now, you can call it", etc.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth car audio

2016-02-28 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I'm thinking to buy sth like this
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hands-Free-Bluetooth-Car-Kit-Wireless-Bluetooth-4-0-Music-Receiver-with-Mic-3-5mm-AUX/32552886689.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.341.q2och0&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_5_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_8,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6450&btsid=67f8c717-3125-4f2c-872e-4be994c1893a
What do You think about that? Will it work good with Ubuntu MX4? I need two
things - music streaming to radio and calling feature. In description there
is info that it has microphone - will it work with Ubuntu?

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[Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-02-28 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

could anyone from Canonical give us the official statement about getting
location updates in background/while screen is off?
I know, for now there is no possibility to do that; and we all know that is
blocking a lot of apps to be more useful or to save battery life (sport
trackers or navi apps should have possibility to work with screen turned
off - very useful on long distances (by auto turning screen on (like Google
Maps) only if there is a need)). I've e-mailed one guy about his app and he
told me that he will continue developing his app when features mentioned
before will be available. I found some bug here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-application-lifecycle/+bug/1502078
but there isn't any milestone set.
So Canonical/Ubuntu Team, please tell us is there any plan to implement
that? If Yes, is there any approximated deadline for that?

Second question regarding GPS - is there any way to get detailed info about
location? I mean data like satellites that our phone 'catched' and their
position. Is that also in scope of Canonical/Ubuntu team?

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[Ubuntu-phone] Dekko few question / misleading / hard to get into clock alarm after update

2016-03-04 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

I've started to use Dekko as my e-mail client. There are some features that
I miss (notifications about new e-mail in background), but main problem for
me is related to account configuration - in many other mail client apps,
there is only a need to add one account (and set there imap and smtp in
separate sections); but not in dekko - there is a need to add two accounts
for that action. In my opinion that should be merged - what do You think
guys?
Second topic related to Dekko seems to be a bug(s) - in main screen I see
tabs 'Wszystkie (All)' 'Nieprzeczytane (unreaded)' 'Oznaczone (tagged?)',
etc. but there is one main tab missing - 'Otrzymane (received)' - is there
any possibility to add it?
Another bug, probably connected with above - when I send e-mail by Dekko, I
can see it in "Wszystkie (All)", but I don't know how to get into 'Sent'
tab - where is it?
Next one -  in settings of my imap acc config, there is a place to
configure creating messages section (with options like 'save sent
messages', 'quote original message', etc.) - bit why there are such options
in imap config? It's misleading.

Last one for now is related to recent clock update - for me, now is much
harder to get in a comfortable way into alarm section - hard to swipe from
down to up, sometime moves 'Add city' section. What is Your opinion? Please
look at that short video:
https://plus.google.com/112499226422562823371/posts/MWMf6bJgzBg

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-03-06 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
@Thomas,


2016-02-29 16:38 GMT+01:00 Thomas Voß :

> We will introduce an API for applications that allows
> navigation/tracker apps to enable monitoring of positions. ETA is OTA
> 11, OTA 10 is too close right now.
> Exposure to Qt/QML will happen similar to the BlackBerry backends,
> with a property "monitor" on the position source.
>

Summarizing - there will be features allowing to get GPS location even app
is in background or while screen is off (like music apps can play media
while screen is off)?
Is there any bugs/feature request reported at Launchpad, that we can track
progress?


>
> @Satellite visibility updates: Those will also likely land in OTA 11.
> A silo with the changes on the Ubuntu side is available, but we also
> need to land changes to
> the Android side of things.
>
> Cheers,
>
>   Thomas
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński
>  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > could anyone from Canonical give us the official statement about getting
> > location updates in background/while screen is off?
> > I know, for now there is no possibility to do that; and we all know that
> is
> > blocking a lot of apps to be more useful or to save battery life (sport
> > trackers or navi apps should have possibility to work with screen turned
> off
> > - very useful on long distances (by auto turning screen on (like Google
> > Maps) only if there is a need)). I've e-mailed one guy about his app and
> he
> > told me that he will continue developing his app when features mentioned
> > before will be available. I found some bug here
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-application-lifecycle/+bug/1502078
> > but there isn't any milestone set.
> > So Canonical/Ubuntu Team, please tell us is there any plan to implement
> > that? If Yes, is there any approximated deadline for that?
> >
> > Second question regarding GPS - is there any way to get detailed info
> about
> > location? I mean data like satellites that our phone 'catched' and their
> > position. Is that also in scope of Canonical/Ubuntu team?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Krzysztof Tataradziński
> > https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] gps not working since OTA-9.1

2016-03-08 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
I also can confirm that cannot get GPS fix on MX4 (I was trying 15 minutes
wth uNav), is there a bug reported for that?

2016-03-07 20:51 GMT+01:00 Jean-Baptiste Lallement <
jean-baptiste.lallem...@canonical.com>:

> Hi
>
> Le 07/03/2016 20:49, Marco Graziotti a écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I can confirm what Peter says. I just seen that in MX4 (ota 9.1) if you
>> enable GPS from settings, it doesn't automatically enable gps in
>> "battery settings" menu. Otherwise if you try to enable bluetooth from
>> settings, it automatically enable bluetooth in battery setting menu.
>> So, I think this is a bug, right?
>>
>> The expected behavior is: if you enable gps from settings, it
>> automatically enable gps in battery settings.
>>
>> The GPS toggle will be removed from the battery settings. The GPS chipset
> already goes into powersave mode automatically when not in use and 2
> settings for the GPS is just confusing.
>
> This is tracked in
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1520580
>
> JB.
>
>
>
> Marco
>>
>> Il 07/03/2016 17:51, Peter Boehm ha scritto:
>>
>>> hello all,
>>>
>>> today i spent an hour to investigate the situation:
>>>
>>> - gps seems to work if i activate gps in settings AND
>>> gps in battery settings, which i have not done before (why is this
>>> switch in battery settings?)
>>>
>>> - is there a possibiliity to read rough gps sensor data in the terminal?
>>>
>>> thanks a lot for your help.
>>> peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 2016-03-07 um 11:25 schrieb Thomas Voß:
>>>
 On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Peter Boehm  wrote:

> hello phone-team,
>
> i am on meizu mx4 ubuntu 15.04. after installing OTA-9.1 on 24.02.2016
> my gps is not working anmore. sensorstatus reports that there are no
> supported backends. how can i check whats wrong? any information
> would be
> appreciated.
>

 Please note that SensorStatus currently has no way of determining GPS
 status or satellite visibility.
 The respective information will only be available to certain apps
 likely from OTA 10 onwards. Please see

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu-sensors/+bug/1448180

 for further details and associated MPs.

 If you feel like your device is not able to determine your position,
 feel free to file a bug here:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service

 Thanks a lot,

Thomas

 all the best peter
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>>
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[Ubuntu-phone] What about calling to several people?

2016-03-09 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,

Two quick questions:
(1) Is there any way to call to few people at the same time (to make sth
like conference)? In my opinion, it's important, especially in business
usage.
(2) Is there any way to make video call with someone? If not, where I can
find bug/feature reported at launchpad.net for that?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What about calling to several people?

2016-03-09 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Thanks all for replays! But by video calling, I mean that one worked with
normal dialer app (not by using third party). If I good remember, in
android and other phones, in dialer/contacts app, there were options:
message, call, video call, etc. And video call use 'native' solution (like
normal calling by ours telecom company). Is there any way to do that?

2016-03-09 12:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Bittner :

> For video conferencing there is also appear.in, which works fine in
> the oxide browser (try https://appear.in/test-drive). Not in the
> webapp-container yet. This is a bug that is being worked on, IIUC. See
> https://github.com/bittner/appear-in/issues/1 for details and if you
> want to follow updates on the issue.
>
> Peter
>
>
> 2016-03-09 11:54 GMT+01:00 Alan Bell:
> > (2) Is there any way to make video call with someone? If not, where I can
> > find bug/feature reported at launchpad.net for that?
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[Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth transmitter as headset instead of other type

2016-03-13 Thread Krzysztof Tataradziński
Hello,
I've got two bluetooth devices I'm using with my phone:
(1) headphones with mic (I think that is called headset in english)
(2) Bluetooth transmitter with mic also.

(1) is recognized in Ubuntu System Settings, bluetooth part as "Other
Audio" - I can listen to music and call to someone using that build-in mic.
Everything seems to work fine ;)
(2) is recognized in USS as "Headset" - I can listen to music, but I can't
talk with that. When I call to someone, phone use its mic and speaker (it
should use transmitter mic like in device (1)); in call screen I don't have
option to change into bluetooth one.
What is solution for that?
Is there any way that I can 'force' change from "Headset" into "Other
Audio" in device (2)?

Best regards,
Krzysztof
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