Re: [techtalk] login restriction
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:52:46 -0400, "Brian Sweeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Does anyone know how to restrict users on a RHL 6.0 box from being able to >actually login? RH 6.0 has so many security flaws that you simply should not run it in an open environment. Upgrading bind is absolutely essential because the version of bind shipped with 6.0 is vulnerable to a compromise that gives the intruder root access. You should probably upgrade to at least 6.1 and preferably 6.2, and read up thoroughly on security issues. >I know this sounds strange, but hear me out. I have this new >mailserver up, and I want people to be able to POP to it to retrieve >mail, but not anything else. Disable telnetd and rlogind. (You should do this anyway; if you want to allow remote access to your box, make people use sshd.) The easiest way to do this is to edit /etc/inetd.conf and comment out the lines that enable telnetd and rlogind, then killall -HUP inetd. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: security blather Re: [techtalk] login restriction
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:14:59 -0400 , "Fan, Laurel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >If I can, from my computer, open an "smtp connection" to port 25 on >somehost, I can run "telnet somehost 25". Neither of which has >anything at all to do with telnetd. I am indeed at a loss to tell how a firewall could tell a connection to port 25 that originates from a MTA from one that originates from some other sort of socket opening program. The TCP protocol doesn't tell you squat about what the program opening the socket intends to do with it. Admittedly, a firewall _could_ terminate a SMTP session that doesn't "act right", but it can't tell that until the connection has been established and some data has been exchanged. Unless, of course, someone has a "psychic firewall" out there that I haven't heard about. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: security blather Re: [techtalk] login restriction
On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 16:34:30 -0400, "Susannah D. Rosenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >packet filtering mean anything to you? I understand the concept. I'm stating that there's no way you can tell a TCP SYN on port 25 from an MTA from a TCP SYN on port 25 from telnet. They look exactly the same. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] GPG on different machines
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:20:35 -0400, Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I have installed GPG on 2 different machines. The different user >accounts on these machines are identical. Very likely, I plan to have >2 sets of keys for each user account, one for each machine. Are there >any good practices regarding the number of keys a user may have? It's my considered opinion that you should have a different key for each account/resource you have; that way, the compromise of one key doesn't threaten any of your other resources. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:44:14 -0400, Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I understand, but I'm from the "throw the little kid into the pool" >if they sink jump in and rescue them, if the float great. :) That doesn't work when you're talking about a business client who doesn't care about learning anything; he just wants it to work. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:12:07 -0400 , "Fan, Laurel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Maybe so. But another issue is that KDE has incorporated a lot of >non-KDE-written GPL'd code, without asking the authors if it was ok >to link their code with Qt. In essence, forcing their controversial >interpretation of the GPL on other peoples' "products". There was a rather loud screechfest back when Mattias showcased "Kimp": a very cheap hack of imbedding GIMP within a KDE wrapper. He was told, in no uncertain terms, that doing so was illegal and that he was not permitted to do so. He argued that he was allowed to on the grounds that Qt is "part of the operating system" (a position that essentially everyone outside of Troll Tech disputes), but he eventually backed down. The GIMP developers have made several overtures to KDE team members about making GIMP more compliant with KDE's environment, but those overtures have been ignored. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:01:01 +0200, Patricia Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Of course not -- but as soon as you take GPLed code from KDE and >include it in your code, you agree with that it is OK that KDE is >GPLed and that there is no licencing problem. KDE can release its code under any license it chooses, including the GPL, without violating the law. The problem with Qt comes when you talk about the binaries. Source code is source code and can be distributed even if it doesn't work at all. But when you link a GPL program against some other library (other than a "major component" of the operating system), the resulting executable can only be distributed if every library to which it was linked is distributed under a license which grants the recipient of each copy of that license at least the same rights with respect to the source of that library as that recipient would have received had the library been licensed under the GPL. This inclusionary rule ONLY APPLIES to the distribution of executables. So, if you obtain a copy of KDE source under the GPL, that license is good and valid. However, it is quite probably true that KDE _executables_ are undistributable because they include Qt (or at least Qt runtime linkages, which are probably enough to violate the GPL) code. KDE's choice of license is ill-considered, not because it prevents them from distributing their source, but because it prevents them from distributing their executables. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] BASH command return value
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:34:07 -0400, Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >In BASH, why does the "\u" and "whoami" make a big difference for the >$? value in PS1 string? The BASH version is 2.04. Because 'whoami' is a command, and running it resets $?. \u just looks up the username internally. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Using AOL with Linux???
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:54:27 -0500 (CDT), <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>It is not possible to use AOL's proprietary service with Unix and >>Linux. >This is not true. GNU/Linux users are free to use their >machines to access any proprietary systems they wish to. THere is no >prohibition in the GPL against using proprietary services - just >against linking free with non-free code in the same program. Uh, you're confusing legal and technical. There is no (simple) technical means to use Linux, Unix, or any OS other than Windows or MacOS to access AOL, because AOL doesn't publish its communications protocols and nobody has bothered to reverse-engineer them (as far as I know). I think you saw "proprietary" and redflagged. :) Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Debian/proftpd problems... AGAIN
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:51:21 -0400, "Kath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Very interesting. I increased the timeout delay and was able to >login to the ftp in Windows, but it was quite slow. A refresh of a >directory could take upwards of 30 seconds and this is across a 100 >Mbps LAN with no traffic on it. The FTP daemon may be trying to reverse-lookup the hostname of the connecting system, for logging purposes. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Netstat weirdness
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:14:21 -0400, "C. M. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >The IP address assigned to eth0 is correct in ifconfig, but >wrong/different in netstat. Ditto eth1. No, they appear to be correct to me. Keep in mind that those are network routes, not host routes. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Netstat weirdness
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:24:15 -0400, "C. M. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Oh, absolutely. Specific host routes shouldn't be necessary, though >I've tried them just in case. The .56 is not a valid address on our >network, though, which is what raised the red flag. No, it's not a valid address on the network because it's the address OF the network. Here's the route list you gave earlier: |Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface |63.251.67.560.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 |192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 |127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo |0.0.0.0 63.251.67.570.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 The way the kernel routes packets is, for each route table entry, in order, it takes the IP address you're trying to reach, binary-ANDs it with the genmask, and then compares the result with the destination. If it matches, it sends the packet to the specified interface. If the G flag is NOT set, then this is a direct route; if G is not set, then you're going out a gateway. So, in your case, 63.251.67.56 thru 63.251.67.63 all go direct to eth0, 192.168.0.0 through 192.168.0.255 all go direct to eth1, 127.0.0.0 thru 127.255.255.255 all go direct thru lo (the loopback interface), and everything else is gatewayed to 63.251.67.57 via eth0. This is perfectly consistent with your ifconfig settings. The network on eth0 has the network address 63.251.67.56. This should not be the IP address of any machine on that network, since subnet address 0 is reserved. .56 is the network address and .63 is the broadcast address for this subnet. In short, there's doesn't appear to be anything at all wrong with your routing. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] There's nothing more I hate
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:00:56 -0400 (EDT), "Lilly S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >than when someone sends me this article: >http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/FredMoody/moody.html Well, to be frank, Fred has some valid points. * Linux is not very well designed from a security standpoint. (As Fred points out, neither is NT.) * A great many Linux "community members" tend to be juvenile idiots with a remarkable inability to express themselves coherently. On the other side, he makes the mistake of assuming that the people who post to Slashdot are the people who write Linux. Slashdot is 98% wannabee (possibly higher); while the real developers might read and occasionally post to Slashdot, Slashdot posters are not representative of Linux developers. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] There's nothing more I hate
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:03:20 -0400, Brendan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >And slashdot is not "the Linux community." Please. I know that. Tell Fred that (I did). Slashdot has done a great deal to harm the public image of Linux, if you ask me. Kelly ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] web+ (free version)
I really need help with setting up web+ on my computer. I have apache running, and web + is loaded..but, I have no clue about the webplus.exe in the cgi-bin. It keeps telling me that it isn't running. Explanation: I want to learn about developing e-commerce type sites and this looked like it would do it. Webplus has a free version for Linux and I downloaded it. Don't worry about technical details.. I'll have my daughter-- April translate. thanks Kelly __ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Su slow?
On Wed, 02 February 2000, Sunnanvind wrote: > > The "su" command on my system has become remarkably slow - is this a sign that > security's been compromised? > It used to be pretty fast, just type su and the password... now it takes like > ages... > Sunnan Excuse, please, my newness.. but, have you checked your system processes? Kelly __ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Re: [grrltalk] yet another intro...
On Mon, 07 February 2000, Deb Richardson wrote: > > Just so all the new folks know...introductions should only be posted to > grrltalk. I get to crosspost stuff 'cuz I run the place ;) > > Thanks! > > - deb > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and a very good job you do, Deb.. Kelly __ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
[techtalk] cable modem & gateway
Hello all: I've been on this mail list for a couple of weeks but this is the first time I've needed to ask a question and I'm always so behind on my email that I can nevery answer any questions (they've always already been answered.) I can't answer that many anyway. Anyway greetings all 8) I need help. I'm trying to set up a cable modem with my redhat 7.1 box as a gateway. I'm getting an error everytime I get a packet from the cable modem... Jun 2 20:47:07 localhost kernel: eth0: (13) System Error Occured the (13) represents the number of times I've received the error. Any ideas? I've never done this before so don't be afraid of suggesting the obvious. Thx -Kelly __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] cable modem & gateway
Hi Kath: Thanks for the response... Yes I'm trying to set up ipmasquerading so all the machines in my house can see the net. I have a hub and two linksys network cards on the RedHat box. At this point I can't even see the net from the RedHat box/soon to be gateway. Any ideas are appreciated. Thx -Kelly On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Kath wrote: > Do you mean you are trying to setup ipmasquerading? > > (You have multiple machines behind one box which does NAT translation > because you can only get one IP from your ISP and/or want a firewall to > protect your network) > > - Kath > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Kelly McQuarrie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 12:07 AM > Subject: [techtalk] cable modem & gateway > > > > Hello all: > > > > I've been on this mail list for a couple of weeks but > > this is the first time I've needed to ask a question > > and I'm always so behind on my email that I can nevery > > answer any questions (they've always already been > > answered.) I can't answer that many anyway. > > > > Anyway greetings all 8) > > > > I need help. I'm trying to set up a cable modem with > > my redhat 7.1 box as a gateway. > > > > I'm getting an error everytime I get a packet from the > > cable modem... > > > > Jun 2 20:47:07 localhost kernel: eth0: (13) System > > Error Occured > > > > the (13) represents the number of times I've received > > the error. > > > > Any ideas? I've never done this before so don't be > > afraid of suggesting the obvious. > > > > Thx > > -Kelly > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > ___ > > techtalk mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Opinion needed on Mail Clients
Hi Claudine: I've been using pine since I switch to unix so I can't compare it to anything else. Why do you like mutt better? Maybe I should switch? -Kelly On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Claudine Chionh wrote: > Hi Michelle and others, > > On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:24:05PM -0700, Michelle Dukich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >scripsit, > > I am on the quest for a mail client that is not going > > to make me work so hard to make it work. > > What other mail clients (whatever OS) have you used in the past? > It might make the difference in how much more you have to learn > or having to change old habits. > > Personally, my response is always: Use Mutt. > Need a GUI? Use Mutt-in-xterm. > Stuck with Windows? Use Mutt under Cygwin. > > > I would prefer a GNOME solution. It will need to get > > mail from several POP accounts with a good system for > > folders and searching. > > Thankfully my mail servers provide IMAP access, but according to the > Mutt documentation it seems you can access as many POP accounts as > you please. Of course, 'power users' are more likely to use > something like fetchmail to collect POP/IMAP mail independent of > mail client. > > Folders: Mutt provides support for Maildir and MH style folders, which > permit nested mail folders. > > Searching: You can use regular expressions to search mail indexes. > I don't think there is any facility to search within message bodies > (except one at a time), but you could just grep the mailboxes. > > http://www.mutt.org/ has a copy of the Mutt reference manual. > > Unfortunately, I can't advise on how Mutt compares with other Unix > mail clients (except Pine), because I *always* use Mutt. > > Hope this helps, > Claudine > > -- > geek historian - Melbourne, AU > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] linksys drivers
Hello all: I've still not gotten my gateway/firewall up. I figured out it was because I didn't have the drivers installed to I tried to compile them but I kept getting errors. After a little research I found on redhat's site that 7.2 is not compatible with linksys's LNE100TX version 4.0 & 4.1 Guess what I've got, version 4.1 Does anybody have any ideas on how I can get around this problem? I don't mind trying another distribution. HELP 8( -Kelly __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] simple question on technical training
Hello: My company has a general rule that we get two classes a year. They send us to more sometimes if something comes up and they need us to learn something new. That's just within my business unit and it's not an actually policy or anything. Kelly McQuarrie Unix System Administrator Ericsson CDMA Systems On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, wildgrass wrote: > I have a simple question on technical training. How much is your company's > technical training budget for each person per year? > > Mine is US$1500 per person, per year. Most courses cost more than that. > Which means I rely a lot on self-teaching. > > I've been told that my administrative folks are not keen to send people to > courses, especially > those that include an exam at the end of it (like RHCE 300) because then > people get certified > and run off to work for another company. > My point is what is to stop me from paying for it myself and then probably > running > off faster because the company doesn't think I'm worth its training dollars? > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] sign up to make money
How is this considered a technical topic? -Kelly On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Cherry wrote: > Dear Friend: > > Make money to paste following as websit and sign up: > > http://net-4-biz.affiliatetracking.net/al/af.cgi?120305 > > > Cherry. > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] problem
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:43:35 -0500 (CDT), Di Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >(I don't >really want to buy a new keyboard) Keyboards are cheap. I've had to buy four replacement keyboards in the past three years, and I can generally get them for under $30. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] parallel zip drive
On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 21:14:20 +, Deb Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Apparently it is a block device... however looking in /proc/devices, the >kernel doesn't support the device though - so how do I change it so it >does?? I'm still have newbie status me thinks...!! Check to see if there's a module for that device. If there is, insmod it. If not, you'll have to compile it, which means a kernel compile, this time with the appropriate drivers enabled (either in the kernel or as modules). See the instructions for compiling the kernel that come with the kernel source. I don't know off the top of my head which drivers are required for parallel ZIP drives. I'm sure someone else here can provide that information if you need it. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] (keyboard) problem
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:19:03 -0500 (CDT), "Marlene E. Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Someone I know takes a shower with his keyboard (Get all of that >kinky stuff out of your head...:) he says that the steam and the heat >will help clean it, and as long as you let it dry long enough it'll >still work. I dunno if that'll help you right now, but you know >hey... I've cleaned out keyboards by completely drenching them in water then letting them dry out upside down over a towel placed on top of a heating vent. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] request for ideas
On Sat, 09 Oct 1999 13:47:39 -0400, Deb Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I'm hacking together an outline for it at the moment, and I would >like to know what you think such a Guide should include. Input from >users of all experience levels would be appreciated. When you >started with Linux, what stumbling blocks did you encounter? What >did you find most difficult to figure out? Is there anything that >new users need to know/should know that other docs don't address very >well? >All suggestions, comments, ideas are appreciated. It's been a long time since I was a new Linux user, and I was a previous Unix user at that point, but I'll try to remember what problems I had (I do remember struggling endlessly with LILO to get it to recognize my hard drive, but I think that's no longer a problem...). I'd be glad to help to the extent that I can. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] request for ideas
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:47:03 -0500, Aaron Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Actually, you *do* have to tell Win/DOS that you've inserted a floppy >drive. You do so by typing "a:" then running commands, or by >double-clicking on the "3 1/2 Floppy (A:)" icon. The advantage in >this is that the actual mounting is transparent to the user. More accurately, DOS "mounts" the floppy drive every time it accesses it. Very inefficient. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] request for ideas
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:11:19 -0700 (PDT), R Pickett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Indeed; I was just trying to respond to the allegation that typing >'dir a:' would fubar a disk after a disk change. In theory it could _if_ the driver is using write caching. What could in theory happen is a sector which is in the write cache when the disk is changed will get written to the new disk, clobbering whatever was there before. Since, AFAIK, DOS doesn't do write caching on removable media, this can't happen. It _can_ happen in Linux (because Linux does write caching on all devices). Moral: always sync your disks. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] KDE vs Gnome
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:39:58 -0400, "Beverly Guillermo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >You have it your setup to enter X automatically, so you're running at >runlevel 5, rather then runlevel 3. Runlevel 3 is the usual >initialization of Linux that brings you to the console login. Check >your /etc/inittab for what its saying and edit it to use 3 if you >want the console first rather then X. Actually, there's doesn't appear to be a standard for runlevels in this regard. My system (originally, Slackware) is set up to go to console mode in runlevel 5 and xdm in runlevel 4. The only consistent usage for runlevels is 0 is shutdown, 6 is reboot, and 1 is single-user mode. 2 thru 5 are highly variable. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Is there a Kill -8, too?
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:45:01 +0300, Jane Susi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I'm sorry, if I bother you with a really silly question, but...what >shall I do, if this "kill -9" just does'nt work? Not very long time >ago it just happened, so what to do for avoiding such situation?? If kill -9 doesn't work, it means that the process you are trying to kill is waiting on a "fast resource" (waits for fast resources are not interruptable). Usually this means the process is waiting on a disk drive or for memory to be swapped in. This appears as a "D" in ps (for "disk wait"). Also, you can't kill "zombie" processes (which appear with a "Z" in ps), but zombies are processes which have already died and are being held in limbo by the kernel waiting for their parents to find out. Zombies take up an extremely small amount of memory, so they're not a major concern, and are usually evidence of poorly-written code. If you can't kill -9 a process and it's neither a zombie nor in a disk wait, then your kernel is unstable and you should probably reboot. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Is there a Kill -8, too?
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:13:07 -0700, "Tamara Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I've also occassionally had k -9 pid# not kill the process, I think I >looked around and made sure I killed the parent process first, then >tried it again. Not an expert on this. But since the process >numbers are sequential, it's not so hard to find out the order in >which the procs started. ps will list the parent process ID (as PPID) with the right combination of options. I think it's -l, but don't quote me on that. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Is there a Kill -8, too?
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:34:13 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >If a process is in the middle of a system call (such as I/O, disk >reading, whatever), it can't be killed while doing the system call. This is technically not entirely correct. You can't kill a process while it's waiting on a fast resource. A process waiting on I/O from a slow device (e.g. a tty or network I/O), or which is in select(2), sleep(2), or certain other syscalls _can_ receive a signal even though it's in a syscall. This is called "interrupting" a syscall and results in either the syscall returning with EINTR (or, EAGAIN) or automatically restarting, depending on certain flags set in the signal handling system for that process. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] For the not so techie Linux users
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:38:33 +0100, kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I've tried looking all over the place in Windows hoping that the >modem's configuration would be listed somewhere. I looked where >Winblows Help said the IRQ level should be listed, but it wasn't >there (Help gave some obscure reason why it might not be there). In Windows, right-click on "My Computer" and select Properties. Click the "Device Manager" tab. Click on the "+" next to Modems, then double-click the modem device you're interested in. In the new window that pops up, click the "Resources" tab. The modem's configured IRQ will be shown here as "Interrupt Request". Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] For the not so techie Linux users
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:13:19 +0100, kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >That's what windoze Help told me to do, but I don't have a >'Resources' tab there. Help said it sometimes isn't there, but it >didn't offer any alternative course of action. Any other way I can >find out? If there's no "Resources" tab then the device you've selected is a "virtual" device which doesn't really have any hardware directly associated with it. You'll have to poke around to find what the "real" modem device is. (This may mean you have a winmodem; I have no experience with those disgusting things.) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Question for the group
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:27:41 -0600, "Clare Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >One of my unix students ask me if unix/linux had the same plethora of >viruses that Windows/NT has. While I couldn't sight any statistics, I >said I hadn't heard of any successful unix/linux viruses. I did some >research this morning and still can't come up with any hard data. Any >ideas? The first example that comes to mind would be the infamous Internet Worm of 1988, which exploited a buffer overrun bug in sendmail and fingerd for VAX-based UNIX machines. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] whas up wid da GIMP? [from Updated Enlightenment (more @debian, GIMP and COREL DRAW*)]
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:07:49 -0400, Walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I'm confused about the usefulness of explaining CMY to RGB to HSV >relations and not supporting it. What is the big BLOCK in the way of >CMYK or LAB(or HSB or HSB or LCH or whatever you wanna call it) >support in GIMP? (Also, why no bitmap mode support?) Ok, this is a semi-official statement from an actual GIMP developer. :) The major block in the way of supporting multiple colorspaces is a great deal of rigidity in the current structures for representing pixels. Significant work has been done in this area for the HOLLYWOOD project (film editing, which requires 48-bit color), which we hope to fold back into GIMP for either 1.4 or 2.0. While the main goal of HOLLYWOOD was to provide 48-bit color (3x16 bit channels), the modifications should also facilitate alternate colorspaces. However, these mods are rather extensive and will be tedious to roll back in, which is why they're not going in 1.2. Bitmaps are sorta supported as a species of indexed image with two colors. GIMP's support for indexed images is also poor, although the Adam "The Great One" Moss is supposedly working on substantial enhancements in this area. Constructive suggestions of how to improve the GIMP are, of course, always welcome. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] To me it fast becomes a non-technicalissue...(COREL/GIMP/PHOTOSHOP etc.)
On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:05:54 +, Kir Kolyshkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Well, there is one VERY important issue - do you need BITMAPPED >graphics or VECTORED one. GIMP, Corel PhotoPaint, Adobe Photoshop are >all doing bitmapped graphics well for us (although my personal >favorite is The GIMP), but Corel Draw! is a vector graphics program, >and you can't obtain such functionality from bitmapped graphics. GIMP is starting to get vestiges of vector graphics capabilities, although they're not there yet. I think someone's planning on extending them in the next release. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] re: Modem Help
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:17:09 -0400, "Chris Ritsert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >1) unactivate auto configure hostname in setup 2) checked the >contents in my /etc/host.conf file and it says: order hosts,bind Have you checked /etc/resolv.conf to make sure that "nameserver" is set to the IP address (numbers, not name) of your ISP's nameserver? Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] re: Modem Help
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:20:03 -0400, "Chris Ritsert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >the line in /resolv.conf just read "search" how should this line read >exactly? >would my ISP's nameserver be a number like this206.222.1.2? My /etc/resolv.conf is appended. In my case, the name server is 127.0.0.1 because I run a local nameserver (which is configured to talk to my ISP). This is because I have a house intranet; if you only have one computer you probably don't need to do this. Replace 127.0.0.1 with whatever your ISP says its nameserver is, and set the "search" parameters to match your "default" network name (strictly not necessary, but lets you use 'abbreviated' names which is helpful) and you should be all set. -= /etc/resolv.conf -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= domain bloomington.in.us search poverty.bloomington.in.us ucs.indiana.edu indiana.edu nameserver 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] To me it fast becomes a non-technicalissue...(COREL/GIMP/PHOTOSHOP etc.)
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:13:33 +, Kir Kolyshkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >There is feature freeze now in GIMP development front, and I use last >released development version 1.1.10 and can't see any vector graphics >support. Paths are a vestige of vector graphics support. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] To me it fast becomes a non-technicalissue...(COREL/GIMP/PHOTOSHOP etc.)
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:45:18 +, Kir Kolyshkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>Paths are a vestige of vector graphics support. >Oops...you are right, and I'm sorry for my bit of >misinformationreally sorry. Not a problem. We have a lot of undocumented and poorly-documented features in the GIMP now (not to mention terribly buggy ones, like the so-called "intelligent" scissors). I'm a developer and I don't know what's going on most of the time. I certainly wouldn't expect a user to. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GUI's
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:55:11 -0400, Cathy James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > A window manager is the piece of executable code that renders >stuff on the screen for you, and allows you to open and close >windows, drag them around, resize them, etc. Technically the window manager doesn't do any rendering (except for what are called "window decorations", the little buttons that most window managers add to the windows so you can make them do things). Rendering is the responsibility of each individual X client program. > I can see how all this could be quite a shock to someone >coming from the windows world, where there is *one* windows manager, >*one* desktop, and *one* widget set. Yup, this is one of the biggest problems people moving to Linux have, I think. Don't forget that there are various breeds of X as well, as well as Y and Berlin out there. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] To me it fast becomes a non-technicalissue...(COREL/GIMP/PHOTOSHOP etc.)
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:04:12 -0400, Walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >True. However, Photoshop has supported them for as long as I can >remember (since ver 3.0, at least) without taking them any farther >into Illustrator's vector realm. Doesn't mean it can't be done. >I would think that it would be very difficult to combine these two >functionalities into one program. I would rather see a LIMP (Linear >IMP) (or PIMP: Pathed Image Manipulation. . .:-) or something as a >complementing program perhaps implementing a lot of the same user >interface, but with overall different functions. I tend to disagree, actually. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] To me it fast becomes a non-technicalissue...(COREL/GIMP/PHOTOSHOP etc.)
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:22:01 -0700 (PDT), Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >It's like the difference between drafting/architecture and >painting... drafting and painting have their own purposes, and can >both be done very methodically. Personally, I would think it would be >a Good Thing (tm) to have different tools for vecto and pixel drawing >JUST as you have different tools for drafting and painting. There's a lot of commonality, though. If we ever get dynamically loaded tools going, there'll really be no reason not to do it. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
[moving off topic...] Re: [techtalk] Rising RAM Prices
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:56:08 -0700 (PDT), Vinnie Surmonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Not exactly irrational -- law of supply and demand. More people want >those seats at christimas than in june, so the airlines can get away >with charging more (ditto RAM and just about everything else) We have a local hotel that puts the room rate up on a digital display so they can change it at a whim. They're $31.99 a night on Monday, $45.99 on Friday (at least on game weekends), and $69.99 the weekend of graduation. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Alternatives to X?
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:40:47 -0400 (EDT), Laurel Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Has anyone actually used Y or Berlin, etc? As far as I know, both are entirely or virtually entirely vapor. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GUI's
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:45:06 -0400, Brendan/Coolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I've been trying to follow the whole KDE/GNOME fiasco, and I was >seeing down the road GNOME merging with KDE, because of the whole >licensing resolution with the QT 2.0 set. This won't happen, for a variety of technical and political reasons. GNOME and KDE have markedly different design philosophies. Also, Qt is a dog (terribly inefficient!). >It's now perfectly GPL, I thought and the point of the GNOME project >was based on that non-free piece of code being included in KDE. Last I checked the license Qt is to be released under is NOT GPL-compliant. IHMO, IANYAL. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GUI's
On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:16:43 -0400, Brendan/Coolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>Last I checked the license Qt is to be released under is NOT >>GPL-compliant. IHMO, IANYAL. >Well, I read this on their site. Tended to believe it. Troll is, of course, biased. You really shouldn't accept legal opinions offered by a party trying to convince you that their legal opinion is, in fact, correct. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
[techtalk] "hda: lost interrupt"
I'm getting "hda: lost interrupt" messages from my kernel, which I just upgraded to 2.2.12. Anybody got any idea what this means (beyond the obvious)? Do I need to do something about this, or is it not all that important? Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GUI's
On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:59:46 -0400, "Wendt,Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >What makes Qt a dog? I recall reading a profiling test that showed that Qt is about 10x as slow as GTK for a rather common operation. >>Last I checked the license Qt is to be released under is NOT >>GPL-compliant. IHMO, IANYAL. >KDE is released under the GPL... If both KDE and Gnome are GPL'd, you >would think there wouldn't be a problem with licensing. KDE is released under the GPL, but Qt is not. You can't use KDE without Qt. (It's questionable in my mind whether a GPL product should rely on a third-party library which is not released under the GPL, the LGPL, or an equivalently open license.) >What's IANYAL, you are not _yet_ a lawyer? :-) Exactly. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GUI's
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:09:01 -0400, "Caitlyn Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I can't disagree with the latter statement, but it no longer applies >to KDE. When TrollTech changed the license, it met the Open Source >definition, at least sufficiently to satisy, form what I've read, >Eric Raymond and other leading figures in the Open Source movement. I am, to be quite blunt, more qualified to render an opinion on the compatibility of two licenses than ESR is. Frankly, I think ESR is a loon. ESR's imprimateur means virtually nothing to me; I am going on my personal evaluation of the licenses as I understand them. Neither I nor ESR are lawyers, although I'm closer than he is. For legal advice, contact an attorney. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GUI's
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 01:04:15 -0400 (EDT), Laurel Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Gnome and KDE will never merge because it would be very very hard and >nobody would ever do it (unless you're volunteering here..). Harder >than implementing every Gnome feature from scratch in KDE or vice >versa. Gtk is not a drop in replacement for Qt. Not to mention the philosophical differences between the two products. KDE runs on a "do it" attitude, which is why they have turned out, quickly, a lot of products that really aren't well engineered at all. GNOME is much more deliberate, which means their development is slower, but IMO will eventually result in a superior product. These design philosophies are incompatible (for obvious reasons). Caveat: while I am not a GNOME developer, I am far more sympathetic to GNOME than to KDE. First, Miguel is a good friend, while Mattias Ettrich has been quite rude to me over the years. Second, I hate C++. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GUI's
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:56:53 -0500, Aaron Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >As a side note, someone (I think kelly) described Qt as a 'dog'. I'm >curious about this... my experiences with Qt have been great -- much >easier to write in than Gtk+. I'm hardly an experienced X >programmer, though... perhaps you can correct me? It is easier to write (bad) code with Qt than with GTK. However, Qt is terribly inefficient. Pixmap rendering in GTK (using GTKRgb) is something like ten to twenty times as fast as it is in Qt. The simple fact is GTK has Raph Levien, and Qt does not. :) I've also seen several KDE apps that are terribly inefficient with memory usage. Their spreadsheet uses up something like 3K of memory per cell, which is terribly bad design. In general, I am not impressed with the amount of thought that goes into the design of most KDE applications; in my opinion most of them will not scale well and will be difficult to maintain because of a lack of disciplined development. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Font confusion
On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:53:25 -0400 (EDT), Ingrid Schupbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I have spent the past hour trying to figure out how to give myself >more font options in gimp. Currently I only have 4 fonts. I went to >gimp.org and downloaded a big file of fonts, and I unzipped and >untarred it, but I have no clue where to put it. Do I put it in some >.gimp directory? Some .gnome directory? I can't seem to find where >my fonts live. They go in /usr/X11/lib/fonts. I think the "freefonts" bundle that is available for download from gimp.org includes a Makefile; try doing a "make install". Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Gimp, Gimp Users, Deevelpers and the like...
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:47:51 -0500, Steve Kudlak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >One thing I notice that is sort of misssing is GIMP there are several >groups and mailing lists ddvoted to it. I have not reeceived veey >much from the any of them, except a little from the plug in >registy..Are there people who want to start a gimp discusssion group >or if it would coulollide here in techtalk, mentione GIMP techniquews >and show off near pcitures. Pleus cute tricks we hab=ve learned, >SOmrething in addition to the already nice GUM (Gimp USers Manual). I >seldom see anyt GIMP material on may mailmg list. If someone can >point me to the rifht one I'd loove it. There's [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the newsgroup comp.graphics.apps.gimp. Why can't you use gimp-user for this? Kelly (GIMP developer emeritus) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] 6.1 install, Victory!
On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 22:48:05 -0500, Steve Kudlak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I also dunno if there will be an MS-WIN GIMP. There already is. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Gimp...
On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 20:32:35 GMT, "J B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I am running GIMP/Win on a Windows 2000 box. Runs great. The only >problem I have found is that if I try to manipulate more than one >graphic, whether concurrently or not, in the same session, that I get >memory errors. Do not know if it is not interacting with Windows >memory manager properly, or what. But if I shut the app down between >graphics, it runs great! Have you reported this to the developers? Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:50:09 -0600, Stephan Zaniolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I'm >interested in licensing these under the terms of the GPL, but I >remember hearing somewhere that Java is not a "free" language and >therefore can't be licensed under the GPL. As far as I know, there is no legal merit to this contention. You can at least license the source code under the GPL. Java doesn't generate linked executables so there's no concern about distributing a derived work containing GPL and non-GPL components. Bytecompiling probably does not commingle works -- compilation idioms are probably not copyrightable on their own. >I understand >that the GPL has the "virus-like" quality that if any part of a GPLed >program is used in another program, it must also be licensed under >the GPL. That's technically inaccurate. If you derive a program from GPL code, then the derived program must, _if distributed_, be distributed consistent with the GPL. You don't _have_ to license it to anyone if you don't want to. :) The mere communication of one program with another is not sufficient to constitute "combination" for the virus-like aspect of the GPL. The foregoing is not legal advice. For legal advice, please consult an attorney. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:23:18 -0500, Jeff Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>I was planning on publishing an API for this system that others >>could use in proprietary software. (Note: no code from the system >>would/ should be used in the proprietary system, just >>method/function calls) >Then you release your code under the GPL, and document the API. >Anyone else can implement that API and license the code any way they >want. Another approach (used in the Gimp) is to license the API under the LGPL, and the main application under the GPL. The LGPL allows linkage to proprietary applications. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:51:38 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > 'I warrant that this code was written by me and I'm willing to >let other people use it for free so long as they ALSO let other >people use it for free' That's not at all accurate. The GPL says "Here. You can use this. You can modify it. But if you give it -- either in this form or modified -- to someone else, you have to give THEM permission to modify it and give it to anyone they want, and have to exact from them a promise to do the same for the people THEY give it to." Note that the word "free" isn't in there. The GPL doesn't forbid you from charging. If I have a GPL program I _CAN_ force you to pay me to get it from me. I don't have to give it to you at all if I don't want to. Of course, if I charge a lot, someone else who also has it will charge less -- or nothing. Hence, most GPL code is in fact available for free, but the license does not strictly require it. The foregoing is not legal advice. For legal advice, consult an attorney. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:00:43 -0600, Stephan Zaniolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I read through the GPL and at the end it says that GPLed >programs are not allowed to be incorporated into proprietary systems. This is a misstatement, in my opinion. What you cannot do is license a GPL program under any license other than the GPL. You CAN use a GPL program in conjunction with a non-GPL program -- Chalice (a film effects editor) does this with the Gimp -- as long as the usage does not constitute "linking". >I was planning on publishing an API for this system that others could >use in proprietary software. (Note: no code from the system >would/should be used in the proprietary system, just method/function >calls) Is this in violation of the GPL? You cannot violate the GPL with respect to your own code because you don't need a license to use your own code (it belongs to you, after all). You are free to release the same code under two different licenses if you want, letting people pick which license they want -- even if the licenses are incompatible with each other. The GPL _does not bind in any way_ the first author of code released under it. > My next (and hopefully last) question, did I read it >correctly? Do I actually not NEED to involve lawyer(s) in this >process (but I could just to cover my arse)? Is everything I have to >do at the end of the GPL (including copywriting the code)? (yes, >this is the first time I've considered copywriting/licensing any >software I've ever worked on. I'm still in college.) Technically, everything you've ever written it copyrighted (not "copywrited" by the way), and, if you gave copies of it to other people, licensed as well. Copyright is inherent in all authorship, and when you distribute software you almost always give at least an implicit license to use. Again, this is not legal advice; for legal advice consult an attorney. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:25:23 -0600, Stephan Zaniolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >But I could write a >proprietary program for GNOME using the GNOME API (assuming there is >one), right? Or am I missing something? I think gnome-libs is LGPL, which allows linkage with proprietary code. However, you cannot distribute anything that links against GPL code without licensing it under the GPL as well. Also, I'm not certain of this, but it MAY be permissible to distribute IN SOURCE FORM ONLY code not licensed under the GPL which must be linked against a GPL library to function. However, the resulting executable may not be distributed. > The idea was to be running the servlet(s) and database off our >own server and allow others to write interfaces for the data input >and maybe output. I'm not sure if the others would GPL their code or >not, so I'm assuming they won't and I don't want to force them into >it if they don't want to. (The open sourcing of the code is more for >peer review, security checking, and showing the third parties what >we've done and how, rather than for distribution of the software and >I'd rather not be dealing with two versions of the system for >simplicity-sake. Of course, I don't want anyone to steal our work >and make it proprietary which is why I'm looking at the GPL. Does >this clarify things?) I think you want the LGPL. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problems w/Gimp
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:30:42 -0600 (CST), Darren Osadchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I'm having some odd colour problems with Gimp (and Wordperfect, it >turns out). When I start Gimp, I get a message which reads, "Unable >to allocate sufficient colormap entries. Try exiting other color >intensive applications." The Gimp window then appears in purple >(which it shouldn't be). Clicking on it will make it turn into the >proper grey, but everything else on the screen goes wacky. As soon as >I move the mouse, everything reverts to its normal (screwed up) >status. When I start WP, I get the message "Cannot allocate colormap >entry for default background" and the WP document window is in black >and white. Any explanations as to what's causing this would be most >welcome. You are running X in 8 bit mode. Gimp, like most graphics applications, requires a lot of colors, and when run on an 8 bpp display, attempts to allocate a "color cube" that will take up most of the 256-entry colormap. If you're running a WM like Enlightenment, odds are there won't be that many free colors available. There are a variety of solutions. If you have enough video memory and your card supports it, you can run X in 16 or 24 bit mode. There are disadvantages to this as well; you lose color resolution in 16 bit mode, and speed in both modes, and applications takes more memory. You can also tell Gimp to use a "private color map", which means Gimp will use its own colormap instead of the system colormap. This will lead to "flashing", however, which may be unpleasant (Gimp windows will be all the wrong colors when a non-Gimp window is active, and vice versa). What version of Gimp do you have? The behavior you're reporting sounds like 0.54 -- I'd hope that nobody is distributing such an ancient version 1.1 has GtkRGB support and should cope even with very restricted colormaps, thanks to the magic of Raph... :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] swaping & upgrading
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 19:36:39 -0500, Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 19:36:39 -0500, Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Wrt/swap space: Linux uses a swap partition instead of a swap file. Well, Linux can use a swap file if you want it to. Swap partitions are more efficient, though. >On a machine with 64 Mb of memory, you're not likely to see much disk >activity, due to the availability of RAM and Linux's disk caching. >To find out how much swap space is allocated on the drive, you need >to look at the partition table with fdisk (Linux's, not MS); e.g., >fdisk /dev/hda for an IDE drive, or fdisk /dev/sda for a SCSI drive. You can also just look at /proc/partitions, assuming you have the /proc filesystem mounted (which virtually everyone does). Or /proc/swaps, for that matter. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] mail format (was re: ftp for non users)
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:33:14 -, "Lindsay Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I was out of memory or system resources! This is on a machine with >132MB of RAM and 3GB free HD space and just after a reboot! Don't you >just love how compatible Microsoft's applications are with their own >OS?> This seems to be caused by a library that Microsoft thinks will always be there actually being missing. (Windows applications often assume that the environment is sane, and cope badly when it is not.) My Windows box is presently doing this when I try to launch MSIE. It's damnably hard to tell for certain what a Windows program is trying to do, though. I don't buy the "out of memory"; according to Norton System Doctor, I have 100 megs of VM and at least 80% of both USER and GDI resources either MSIE is even larger than I thought, or it's fubared. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Home pages for regular users
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:07:10 -0500, Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >How can my other users on this system, have their own web pages? I >want them to have their own directories and HTML documents (in their >$HOME directories). I may allow simple CGI programs. To srm.conf (or really any of the other Apache configuration files, it's just that it's usually put in srm.conf), add "UserDir public_html" if it's not already there. This tells Apache to map a HTTP request for "/~user" to the local file "~user/public_html". For CGI, you will want to add "AddHandler cgi-script .cgi" or something similar. (Don't do this unless you trust your users.) The Apache website has quite a bit of good documentation on how to configure Apache, although it can be a bit confusing at time. They do have a decent set of FAQs, though. See http://www.apache.org. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Samba and kernel options
On 4 Dec 1999 15:01:30 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >The goal for me is to use the NT systems local printer, CD-R and >scanner devices. The SMB documents talk a lot about the Client and >Server. The source I have downloaded will create a smbd and nmbd. >1. Do I need anything running on the NT? You'll need to use "Client for Microsoft Networks" on the Windows (NT/9X) side. At least, that how I understand it to work for NT -- never actually done it. >2. Do I need any special options in the kernel compile to be turned >on? If you want to be able to mount remote systems on your Linux machine, you'll need to compile the SMB filesystem into the kernel or a module. Otherwise, just your basic network support. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Re: Using Crack 5.0
On 4 Dec 1999 16:07:49 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >Crack nor JR, tried anything on the application accounts. They tested >only the user accounts. Is it because the encrypted password existed >in the 2nd field? How does one test the integrity of the application >accounts? An account with an encrypted password like '!' or '*' cannot be logged into at all -- no password will hash to that. Such an account poses no integrity risk, at least not in the sense of password security. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Bourne Shell Programming and Awk
Not that it helps, but probably the simplest answer to your problem
is:
find . -type d -name "${char}*" -print
However, I assume you're not allowed to use find. :)
Kelly
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Re: [techtalk] Samba question
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:10:03 -0600, "Kathleen Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >First thing, before you assume something is wrong -- try doing a >"Find" on that computer. I've found that Windows 95 (and 98) do >weird things and don't show up in Network Neighborhood -- often for >days. I had Windows add a spurious route to my network configuration once, which resulted in packets going off into lala land. It took me almost a week to fix that -- and I had to dump the Window registry to do it. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] winmodem sound driver
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:50:21 -0500 (EST), Laurel Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Wow, you actually got a driver for a winmodem??? Yeah, it's just a matter of emulating a DSP in the kernel. Raph has been talking about doing this for some time. It's a REAL waste of processor cycles, though. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] winmodem sound driver
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:27:14 -0500, "Theresa Radke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >A real waste of processor cycles?? How so?? you make it sound as if >running a driver for a winmodem is not a good thing to do, could you >please explain? In a "real" modem, signal processing--converting the signal on the phone line to the digital stuff the computer wants--is done by a dedicated DSP (digital signal processor) chip. WinModems don't have a DSP, so the CPU has to do it instead. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] winmodem sound driver
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:46:53 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I suspect that this was meant to disparage winmodems, not the Linux >drivers. Correct. I have never understood why winmodems exist at all. They make no sense at all from any standpoint I can think of, except perhaps Intel's bottom line. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] winmodem sound driver
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:20:06 -0500, "Theresa Radke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I use the 56k modem on windows all the time and don't notice any >severe drag on my system... so guess I'll install that driver and >save some money. You probably have a fast enough CPU that you just don't notice it, especially if you're not running any CPU-intensive applications which most people using Windows don't do, at least not when browsing the net. Windows does not encourage you to make the most of your computer. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] winmodem sound driver
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:05:40 -0500, "Theresa Radke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Oh, RH was not pre-installed, it came on a CD as the operating system >for the box. They said they could not install linux on the system as >it was too difficult. What they should have said is that it is not >compatable. The real reason is they're probably contractually forbidden from doing so. See the court's Findings of Fact in _Department of Justice v. Microsoft_. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] winmodem sound driver
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:46:50 GMT, "J B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Ran a Lucent Winmodem on my Windoze system at home. Did not >noticeably slowdown my system (PIII/500, 292MB)... With that much CPU it's probably the case that your CPU was spending most of its time idling anyway. I suspect that having a winmodem does hell to your interrupt latency though. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] truncated file names
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:59:53 -0500 (EST), Laurel Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >It's much easier for people to help you if you give them the relevant >config files or errors... Sometimes it's quite unobvious what might be "relevant". :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] winmodem sound driver
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:41:44 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Possibly in laptops? But other that that I'd agree. A DSP chip is probably going to have less power draw than a Pentium Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] http://cristal.inria.fr/~harley/ecdl7//
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:49:50 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >We should pick a preffered "community computing" project and ask >people to join that. Either this, seti@home, the RSA/DES thingy or >whatever. I can probably get a dozen or so machines working on >whatever, but if we spread the workload around too thinly then we >won't earn as wuch kudos for it ;-) One of these days I'm going to get my "distributed renderer" going. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] DVD-ROM on Linux?
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:18:06 +1100, "Jenn V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I believe they're /supposed/ to function properly most of the time, >Telsa... >Strange concept, isn't it? Thank Microsoft for the general notion that random failures are acceptable. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] http://cristal.inria.fr/~harley/ecdl7//
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:45:52 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I've seen this kind of thing running under PVM when I was at >university, how would it cope with the kind of latency inherent in >such wide distribution? Unless it was doing animation, then you could >farm out whole frames at a time I guess. I'll be honest, I don't know >that much about the subject. Raytracing, at least, is pixel-independent. You can break each image down into chunks and farm out each chunk. Note that this is not intended for rendering in real time. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] winmodem sound driver
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:30:13 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Buy your CPU will be running almost constantly anyway, and the DSP >will be an extra drain. I was thinking more in terms of space >constraints really though. Well, laptop processors have variable power drain depending on how hard they're working -- make them work harder and they draw more. Space might theoretically be an issue, but a DSP chip isn't very large. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] DVD-ROM on Linux?
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:36:11 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >surely there's this bit about ". . . all goods should be of >merchantable quality and fit for the purpose for which they are >. . ." in the Sale of Goods act? How does M$ defend themselves about >that in the UK? Does the UK allow the buyer to waive that provision? The US allows for the purchaser to waive the common law requirement of merchantability, and of course Microsoft buries such a waiver in their adhesive contract of sale. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] UUCP, was: POP mail
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:16:32 +0100 (CET), Nils Philippsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Anyway when I'm out of college I'm gonna have to find a provider that >lets me do UUCP instead of POP/IMAP. Not that it's of much help to you in Europe, but I've been VERY pleased with my UUCP feed from crnet.net. $10 a month, and it's only gone down for more than 6 hours once in over a year. And I can call them on the phone and talk to a techie who actually knows what UUCP _is_. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Re: DVD-ROM on Linux?
On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 18:18:46 GMT, "J B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Subba- So basically you are saying that the ppl out there who do not >run a M$ os do not have the right or the desire to watch DVD movies, >or to play DVD games on their systems? Merely that you currently have to pay for that right, because of the DVD decoder patents. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Re: DVD-ROM on Linux?
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 02:15:52 -0500, coder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >You can play DVD's on linux / BSD / other systems with software >decoders. These are not as efficient as hardware decrpytion >(obviously), but they do allow you to play the movies from hard disk >or other medium. Is that legal, though? What's the terms on software implementations of the decoding algorithm? Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Re: DVD-ROM on Linux?
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 04:31:59 -0500, coder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Well, i spose the crack itself is illegal to distribute (software to >circumvent copyright protection mechanism are illegal last time I >checked), however, if you are not distributing the decoded >audio/video or playing pirated videos then you *should* be fine. Well, some of us actually care about following the law, and agitate for its change through legal channel. BTW, the DVD thing is patent, not copyright. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] modules and xconfig
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:50:44 -0500, Jeff Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >You'll save some memory by saying 'm' to things you don't need too >much, but that's about it. Also, you will probably have to put some stuff in modules if you use a lot of devices because there's a limit to how large your final monolithic kernel image can be. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] modules and xconfig
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:00:21 +1300, Jamie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >We have machines here booting via network card bootROMs from a Novell >server, and we need as much as possible in modules so the kernel >image plus initrd can fit on a floppy-sized image. In our case, the >limit to kernel size is about 520k or thereabouts. Is that the size after bzipping? My current kernel is 422k bzipped, and I don't have _everything_ moduled out that I possibly could, although certainly I do have a lot of it... Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Linux Books
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:54:57 -0500, Deb Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Check the copyright and licensing, and if it seems questionable, I >recommend that you do not download the files. If you have already >downloaded the files, I recommend that you delete them from your >system if they seem to be of questionable legality. Actually, you're under no obligation to delete them if you downloaded them innocently. The tort is committed by the operator of the site, who is probably looking at a massive copyright lawsuit any moment now. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] X emulator for X?
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:06:13 +0100, Sunnanvind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I know that the topic sounds wierd, but here's what I really meant: >Some programs will only run in for example 604x480x8bpp. My screen >works best in 1024x768x16bpp (it's a tft-screen), so is there a way >to trick programs and make them run in a window, while believing that >they run in full screen in their preffered resolution/color depth? You can probably do this with Xnest. Would be terribly inefficient, though. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] linux + disk
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:19:45 -0500 (EST), Kathy Hargreaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Does anyone know if Red Hat 5.2 has any Y2K problems? Also, I seem >to remember there's a way to find out how large a disk I have without >having to open my box and look at it. Anyone? Check /proc/partitions (assuming you have Linux 2.2.x and /proc support enabled). Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Filename star
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:13:28 +0100 (CET), Nils Philippsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Not quite. The only place where a dot is special is at the beginning >of a filename (Unix has no such concept as filename segments) where >it means "this file is hidden". And even so that's just a function of how ls and the shell behave -- there's nothing in the kernel that makes a leading dot special. The only names that are special as far as the kernel is concerned are '.' and '..'. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] need database recomendations
On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 07:19:14 -0800 (PST), Michelle Leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Working on my first resolution - to get a "real" database system >running. Our existing database to date consists of bunches of >flatfiles and directory filesystems. Access is through perl >scripts/html pages. I would like to get a more formal database >system going (and moved from the old SUN box to new linux box) as our >volume will soon overrun what we have now. So I'm looking for >suggestions as to everyones favorite database and access >programs/protocols etc. Any pros/cons appreciated. For small to moderate databases, I am fond of MySQL. MySQL is pretty robust, reasonably fast, and interfaces well. It's a limited implementation of SQL, but most of the absent features are perks rather than essentials. I haven't worked with really large databases so I'll let one of the others who has provide suggestions. (I know Deirdre has been doing database engine work for years.) BTW, if you want a consultant on this project, let me know. I'm available. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] need database recomendations
On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:55:52 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Bur if by "real" database you mean a genuine RDBMS then both mSQL and >mySQL fail the test. One of the reasons that they are so fast is that >a lot of functionality is missing from them. Have a look though, and >see what you need. Given that she said they were currently using flat files, I suspect that mySQL will be adequate for at least the medium term, and its low cost makes it more feasible than grabbing for the Oracle brass ring. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Other OSes on a Linux box
On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:21:02 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >My question is ... if I buy a bunch of Intel-based servers from a >company like VA or Penguin, am I likely to be able to run NT on them >as well? And, more importantly, if there's a problem, am I going to >be able to get help or am I going to be wishing that I'd bought a >Compaq or IBM machine instead? You may have driver problems. Win9X and NT are both intended to be installed only by OEMs -- and as such, they do a poor job of properly configuring vendor-specific hardware. If you have any "nongeneric" hardware expect problems. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] fixing things, was: missing posts
On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 14:12:45 +0100 (CET), Nils Philippsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >That's absolutely impossible with Windows. I once had a Windows NT >installation (at a friend's computer) which had a driver halfway >installed, i.e. some registry entries where already in place, but it >didn't show up in the control center. I wasn't able to fix this >because the driver didn't install "over it" due to the registry >entries and I couldn't _tell_ the system to uninstall it because it >didn't show up in the control center. This is unacceptable. Yup. It's very easy to get Windows "wedged" into a state where it is virtually unrecoverable. Although, technically, the problem you had here could have been recovered by manually editing the registry. Assuming, of course, you could figure out which of the roughly 100K registry keys needed to be edited. Good luck. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Other OSes on a Linux box
On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 11:06:49 -0500, Caitlyn Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Yikes! OK, I hate to defend Microsoft at any time, but this is just >blatantly wrong. Both are sold retail, and both are relatively easy >to install if you know what you are doing and have the right drivers >up front. The problem is getting the right drivers up front. Windows will, in my experience, blithely install the wrong driver, making your system about as stable as a two-legged coffee table. The simple fact is that Windows is not intended to be installed by non-experts. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Other OSes on a Linux box
On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:05:36 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >Compaq isn't without issues, but at least we can count on the >drives staying put, the servers taking up a lot less space, and >better support (reseller plus manufacturer). I hope the support they give enterprise customers is better than their retail customer support. My experience with Compaq technical support is absymal. I had one of their tech support drones tell me that "the hard drive sees everything on the computer" and that it had to be "replaced" every time anything on the computer was changed. Load of BS. I had to bring an attorney in to the picture to get them to finally replace a defective Presario laptop (four trips to their repair shop, each time they broke something new). Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
