Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please.
Eleanor, this has nothing to do with the original posting, please remember to keep your postings in line with the subject field, or change it, before posting. most people reading this won't even have a clue what you are referring to as you've not been clear! :) anyway, for now, I hope my comprehensive reply to you on the other list, Talks UK, has answered your question. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 07:43, Eleanor Burke wrote: Now that Neil is the Moderator on both lists, I presume in other words Owns both lists, do we now need two lists, especially where we have duplicate e-mails on same topic. This is nothing against Simon who has very recently posted but just something which has come to mind since the announcement of the new ownership of the UK list. It is very disappointing that we do not see other Talks Dealers on these lists now. I know that an excellent lady who gave fantastic support on the UK list, Barbra left the list due to conflict of one form or another. Steve Nutt used to give a lot of input but again I make the assumption that due to work committments maybe Steve is unable to offer as much support and share as much knowledge as he did. There are some very well informed contributors on the international Talks list which I feel the UK list members would benefit from sharing. Why do we now need our own UK list? Are our issues different from those of other list members on the international Talks list? I would have thought not. Eleanor ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please.
My apology Neil but you will have seen that I recognised my mistake once I had hit the button and ensured that on the UK list, which is the one I was aiming at in particular, I did ensure that the error was corrected. - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please. Eleanor, this has nothing to do with the original posting, please remember to keep your postings in line with the subject field, or change it, before posting. most people reading this won't even have a clue what you are referring to as you've not been clear! :) anyway, for now, I hope my comprehensive reply to you on the other list, Talks UK, has answered your question. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 07:43, Eleanor Burke wrote: Now that Neil is the Moderator on both lists, I presume in other words Owns both lists, do we now need two lists, especially where we have duplicate e-mails on same topic. This is nothing against Simon who has very recently posted but just something which has come to mind since the announcement of the new ownership of the UK list. It is very disappointing that we do not see other Talks Dealers on these lists now. I know that an excellent lady who gave fantastic support on the UK list, Barbra left the list due to conflict of one form or another. Steve Nutt used to give a lot of input but again I make the assumption that due to work committments maybe Steve is unable to offer as much support and share as much knowledge as he did. There are some very well informed contributors on the international Talks list which I feel the UK list members would benefit from sharing. Why do we now need our own UK list? Are our issues different from those of other list members on the international Talks list? I would have thought not. Eleanor ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please.
Hello Neil, Why are messages originating from you always come in duplicates in my mailbox? Are others having similar experience? Could you please explain. Actually, I don't mind reading your messages twice. Best regards, smart -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 27 February 2011 08:30 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please. Simon, With Nokia phones running Talks, significant memory is achieved by inputting a large memory card and not per say by internal memory. in general a 32Gb memory card is quite easily and cheaply obtainable for these phones, and I'm sure that the newer ones can even take the 64Gb cards. now looking at feature packed phones which support Talks: N8, C7 or E7, I don't have the specs here off hand, but if you go to the Nokia site, these are only three phones, and shouldn't take that long to review. they are all Nokia's latest offerings and all run Talks. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 07:26, goshawk on horseback wrote: Hello list, am looking to upgrade my phone, which is now starting to develop a few problems. Have given some serious thought to the IPhone 4 after hearing a couple of articles about it, but have previously been very satisfied with talks, so would also like to get some info on the latest phones that will work with talks. However, there doesn't seem to be an up to date list of talks phones, and the one I did find is now next to useless, as it just gives model numbers, but has no specs/features listings, which I could really do with to make an informed choice. I am really looking for something really feature packed, and with plenty of available memory, for things like films, music, audio books, etc. Simon ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please.
hum, they should not be, unless its due to repeat postings to different lists. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 09:37, Smart Eze wrote: Hello Neil, Why are messages originating from you always come in duplicates in my mailbox? Are others having similar experience? Could you please explain. Actually, I don't mind reading your messages twice. Best regards, smart -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 27 February 2011 08:30 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please. Simon, With Nokia phones running Talks, significant memory is achieved by inputting a large memory card and not per say by internal memory. in general a 32Gb memory card is quite easily and cheaply obtainable for these phones, and I'm sure that the newer ones can even take the 64Gb cards. now looking at feature packed phones which support Talks: N8, C7 or E7, I don't have the specs here off hand, but if you go to the Nokia site, these are only three phones, and shouldn't take that long to review. they are all Nokia's latest offerings and all run Talks. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 07:26, goshawk on horseback wrote: Hello list, am looking to upgrade my phone, which is now starting to develop a few problems. Have given some serious thought to the IPhone 4 after hearing a couple of articles about it, but have previously been very satisfied with talks, so would also like to get some info on the latest phones that will work with talks. However, there doesn't seem to be an up to date list of talks phones, and the one I did find is now next to useless, as it just gives model numbers, but has no specs/features listings, which I could really do with to make an informed choice. I am really looking for something really feature packed, and with plenty of available memory, for things like films, music, audio books, etc. Simon ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please.
OK Maybe. Sorry, it does not happen with all your messages. No problem. I definitely enjoy reading your very helpful messages. -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 27 February 2011 11:13 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please. hum, they should not be, unless its due to repeat postings to different lists. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 09:37, Smart Eze wrote: Hello Neil, Why are messages originating from you always come in duplicates in my mailbox? Are others having similar experience? Could you please explain. Actually, I don't mind reading your messages twice. Best regards, smart -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 27 February 2011 08:30 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please. Simon, With Nokia phones running Talks, significant memory is achieved by inputting a large memory card and not per say by internal memory. in general a 32Gb memory card is quite easily and cheaply obtainable for these phones, and I'm sure that the newer ones can even take the 64Gb cards. now looking at feature packed phones which support Talks: N8, C7 or E7, I don't have the specs here off hand, but if you go to the Nokia site, these are only three phones, and shouldn't take that long to review. they are all Nokia's latest offerings and all run Talks. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 07:26, goshawk on horseback wrote: Hello list, am looking to upgrade my phone, which is now starting to develop a few problems. Have given some serious thought to the IPhone 4 after hearing a couple of articles about it, but have previously been very satisfied with talks, so would also like to get some info on the latest phones that will work with talks. However, there doesn't seem to be an up to date list of talks phones, and the one I did find is now next to useless, as it just gives model numbers, but has no specs/features listings, which I could really do with to make an informed choice. I am really looking for something really feature packed, and with plenty of available memory, for things like films, music, audio books, etc. Simon ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Nokia Accessibility & Maps - Commentary
I agree whole heartedly with that statement Neil. I would much prefer to carry on using My rather Laborious Nokia E5 over using an Apple Iphone. Prodoctivity would be the main reason here and I don't know how anyone would be able to dial numbers when connected to an banking automated system. I could just about manage this with Mobile Speak in keypad mode but never achieved it with Talks. I did however look at the I-pod Touch yesterday for the first time and have to say that the Voice Over sound quality is not good enough to hear in a outdoor environment. I was traveling back from Hereford yesterday as I went there for the football and I really struggled to hear the Voice Over on my friends I-pod Touch. I would still consider purchasing one for media usage at home. Original message: although not directly Talks related, it is in fact a defence of Talks and indeed this way of doing things. iPhone gets a lot of praise for a good number of reasons, firstly, yes, there's a lot of apps which work out of the box, and these can genuinely make your life easier. next up, their products, i mean Apple's, are very nice to the touch and you get a feeling of being the owner of a modern, sleek, stylish bit of kit when you own one. but, you need to keep in mind, Apple have a very good way of franchising their users, almost turning their users into a massive marketing machine working for them, you rarely here and Apple device owner slatting it, or even coming close to making any form of disparaging remark about it. does this mean that they are perfect or the route ahead, possibly, but not necessarily. do I own one, yes, for the reasons expected, no... So why buy an APple i device, the apps really has to be the thing, does this mean you need an iPhone, no, do it cheaper and get an iPod Touch, more storage room, finner design and cheaper both at the outset and long term. why not get an iPHone, the audio quality during a call is in my experience worse than a Nokia and other devices, all the iPhone's I have owned, now up at 7 of them, resinate when using the internal ear piece during calls when at the top 3 volume settings. the microphone also does a poorer job at sound reproduction than say a Nokia. Voice Over for all its benefits of being so to speak free and right there on day one aren't quite true now are they. a new iPhone 4 with 32Gb of memory will set you back a small fortune on the first day, then quite a bit more than a basic phone tariff there after for 24 months. do you need all the network carrier chucks in there, probably not, but you have no choice. on the other hand, a basic Nokia or even a pretty dam good one can be bought invariably for less, even with a 32Gb memory card, then you can opt for a SIM card only tariff on a package that suits you. even throwing in a full copy of Talks, you are miles better off. this is when free doesn't mean free. I would argue that Voice Over is not free, but included in the price, there is a big difference in this statement. Do not get me wrong folks, I congratulate Apple for doing this for our community, think it is an excellent product, but it does lack many of the features of say Talks or Mobile Speak, is difficult to use tone menu systems in calls owing to the call volume not dipping below that of Voice Over, and other problems, of course Apple could fix these, but for now, my view is the Touch is a better choice than the iPhone itself. its just a view, but as I see more and more people thinking the iPhone will solve their problems, i think its fair and wise to point out some of these things before folk jump simply as Apple people seem to drink the cool ade a little to much for my liking. I do not wish to move this list away from Talks, so can I just point out that this above remark is strictly in the context of helping folk to make an informed thought process over Talks / Ms / Voice Over. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 26 Feb 2011, at 16:36, Eleanor Burke wrote: I concur with all you say Paul but I think we would need to know for certain that the person in the advert is actually blind, or an actor! I know for my part I have not enjoyed the experience of using N97 Mini so am reluctant to move to iPhone but I do hear a lot of people speaking so highly of it. On the Talks front though, I have only been using a mobile phone with Talks for under 3 years and I have never looked back and never will look back. Just wish we could somehor or other keep Talks going for as long as possible. I would hate to see the software developers of Talks pushed out of the market. - Original Message - From: "Paul Hopkins" To: "Ta
[Talks] C5 and Talks Volume
Interesting issues raised by Saqib. I would like to add that on my C5 the Talks volume is very low or else I have suddenly suffered a severe hearing loss. I have to have the volume on maximum (10) when out and then can only hear it with all the other environmental sounds. Very disappointing. Guess it is not a Talks issue but a C5 one. ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] [Bulk] Sync Calendar to phone not working
Hi Dave, The symptoms are not the same, but I see no harm in trying the re-insall option. I shall give it a go. Thanks. Regards, John John Farley Personal Contact Work contact E-Mail: j.far...@btinternet.com john.far...@saic.com -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: 26 February 2011 19:24 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] [Bulk] Sync Calendar to phone not working John, Although not in Win 7 On occasion my auto sync does not launch when connected via cable. I do a reinstall of PCSuite and it fixes the problem, and do not need to go back and adjust the settings. Give it a try if you haven't already. Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. - Original Message - From: "John Farley" To: Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 10:13 Subject: [Bulk] [Talks] Sync Calendar to phone not working Hello list, Is this a known problem? I have the latest version of Nokia PC Suite on a Windows 7 PC connected to a fairly new Nokia C5 with a USB cable. I always sync my calendar and phone between the 2 devices I have done this with every Nokia phone I have used, with no issues before this time. . I have checked the PC Suite Settings many times, and made minor changes to it to try to kick it a bit, but to no effect. The phone contacts sync as expected, but the calendar items do not sync at all. Any clues please? Regards, John John Farley Personal Contact Work contact Phone : 01442 259243 01442 227731 VOIPe : 01442 895132 Mobile: 07815 056076 07785 928755 Fax :01442 227601 E-Mail: j.far...@btinternet.comjohn.far...@saic.com ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Issue on X5
Hello Abang, I have Nokia X5, but in menu i can't find "maps" menu. Can i install additional "Nokia maps", or "Ovi maps"? Thanks in advance. Friday, February 25, 2011, 4:18:18 AM, you wrote: > hi, yes.. still the same. why ha? > - Original Message - > From: "Kit" > To: "Talks Mailing List" > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Talks] Issue on X5 >> Hi Abang Jo, >> >> Have you tried with Talks 5.2?? Does it still have same problem? >> >> Regards, >> KITT. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Abang Joe" >> To: "Talks Mailing List" >> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Issue on X5 >> >> >> ok bro.. thanks. is this issue with X5 only? >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Allan" >> To: "Talks Mailing List" >> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 7:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Issue on X5 >> >> >>> open the sms and make it as forward to someone. at least this can let you >>> read the sms in talks 5.0. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Allan (WKF) >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Abang Joe >>> To: Talks Mailing List >>> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 19:11 >>> Subject: [Talks] Issue on X5 >>> >>> >>> dear guys, with X5, i can sent out message, but when received, talks seem >>> to >>> not read the message body. it just keep on repeating the sender >>> name/number, >>> when cursor down to the message body. >>> >>> >>> can someone show the wayn to ratify this issue? >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Allan" >>> To: "Talks Mailing List" >>> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:06 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Activate power saving >>> >>> power saving will minimize the use of battery on your handset. it will use lower backlight, no vibration, no indicator light, and etc. -- Allan (WKF) - Original Message - From: Evan Silver To: 'Talks Mailing List' Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 17:58 Subject: [Talks] Activate power saving When I tap the power button on my N86, amond the profiles I can switch to, is an item called "activate power saving." What does this menu item do? I'm actually looking for a feature that will quickly power off all the energy draining features such as connection to 3G , Bluetooth, and GPS, Thanks. Evan etc. without having to navigate to all of those individually. Is "Activate power saving" the feature I am looking for ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> >>> ___ >>> Talks mailing list >>> Talks@talksusers.com >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> ___ >>> Talks mailing list >>> Talks@talksusers.com >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> >> ___ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> >> ___ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ -- Best regards, Ivailomailto:ivailokovac...@gmail.com ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Nokia Accessibility & Maps - Commentary
I don't think I suggested that Voiceover was free on Apple products. It is clearly included in the cost of the product but, there is equity in that anyone buying an Apple product pays the same. I am very aware that Apple lock you into their services and products and to be honest... Over all, I just prefer Nokia, all I can do with it, the response of Talks when using it etc. But, it is inevitable that people are going to consider the jump from one platform where things seem to be going backwards to one where they seem to be moving forwards and weighing up the pro's and con's on either side in the process. Supply and demand? The more immediate thing on this thread though was Nokia and lack of accessibility to their products in a stand alone sense and their seeming to illude to their accessibility by default when they use people with a visual impairment to advertise some or all of the phones merrits. Cheers. Paul On 27/02/2011, Saqib wrote: > I agree whole heartedly with that statement Neil. I would much prefer > to carry on using My rather Laborious Nokia E5 over using an Apple > Iphone. Prodoctivity would be the main reason here and I don't know how > anyone would be able to dial numbers when connected to an banking > automated system. I could just about manage this with Mobile Speak in > keypad mode but never achieved it with Talks. I did however look at the > I-pod Touch yesterday for the first time and have to say that the Voice > Over sound quality is not good enough to hear in a outdoor environment. > I was traveling back from Hereford yesterday as I went there for the > football and I really struggled to hear the Voice Over on my friends > I-pod Touch. I would still consider purchasing one for media usage at home. > Original message: >> although not directly Talks related, it is in fact a defence of Talks >> and indeed this way of doing things. > >> iPhone gets a lot of praise for a good number of reasons, firstly, yes, >> there's a lot of apps which work out of the box, and these can >> genuinely make your life easier. next up, their products, i mean >> Apple's, are very nice to the touch and you get a feeling of being the >> owner of a modern, sleek, stylish bit of kit when you own one. > >> but, you need to keep in mind, Apple have a very good way of >> franchising their users, almost turning their users into a massive >> marketing machine working for them, you rarely here and Apple device >> owner slatting it, or even coming close to making any form of >> disparaging remark about it. > >> does this mean that they are perfect or the route ahead, possibly, but >> not necessarily. do I own one, yes, for the reasons expected, no... > >> So why buy an APple i device, the apps really has to be the thing, does >> this mean you need an iPhone, no, do it cheaper and get an iPod Touch, >> more storage room, finner design and cheaper both at the outset and long >> term. > >> why not get an iPHone, the audio quality during a call is in my >> experience worse than a Nokia and other devices, all the iPhone's I >> have owned, now up at 7 of them, resinate when using the internal ear >> piece during calls when at the top 3 volume settings. the microphone >> also does a poorer job at sound reproduction than say a Nokia. > >> Voice Over for all its benefits of being so to speak free and right >> there on day one aren't quite true now are they. a new iPhone 4 with >> 32Gb of memory will set you back a small fortune on the first day, then >> quite a bit more than a basic phone tariff there after for 24 months. >> do you need all the network carrier chucks in there, probably not, but >> you have no choice. > >> on the other hand, a basic Nokia or even a pretty dam good one can be >> bought invariably for less, even with a 32Gb memory card, then you can >> opt for a SIM card only tariff on a package that suits you. even >> throwing in a full copy of Talks, you are miles better off. > >> this is when free doesn't mean free. I would argue that Voice Over is >> not free, but included in the price, there is a big difference in this >> statement. > >> Do not get me wrong folks, I congratulate Apple for doing this for our >> community, think it is an excellent product, but it does lack many of >> the features of say Talks or Mobile Speak, is difficult to use tone >> menu systems in calls owing to the call volume not dipping below that >> of Voice Over, and other problems, of course Apple could fix these, but >> for now, my view is the Touch is a better choice than the iPhone itself. > >> its just a view, but as I see more and more people thinking the iPhone >> will solve their problems, i think its fair and wise to point out some >> of these things before folk jump simply as Apple people seem to drink >> the cool ade a little to much for my liking. > >> I do not wish to move this list away from Talks, so can I just point >> out that this above remark is strictly in the context of helping folk >> to make an inform
Re: [Talks] C5 and Talks Volume
Yes I did state that the C5 had volume issues if you have updated the firmware on it. I noted that last Autust/September. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thought the Talks volume on this pone took a big drop in volume. But this isn't a Talks issue, it is a firmware issue from Nokia. The C5 is a nice small cheep phone is you can still find it, But I in most cases will not suggest people get it. The case being in most cases not all cases. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Eleanor Burke" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:26 AM Subject: [Talks] C5 and Talks Volume Interesting issues raised by Saqib. I would like to add that on my C5 the Talks volume is very low or else I have suddenly suffered a severe hearing loss. I have to have the volume on maximum (10) when out and then can only hear it with all the other environmental sounds. Very disappointing. Guess it is not a Talks issue but a C5 one. ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Issue on X5
I use X5-01 it haven't a GPS function & I don't found menu "maps" in my device. to Allan I try Talks 5.2 problem about reading message on X5-01 is still. On 2/27/11, Ivailo Kovachki wrote: > Hello Abang, > I have Nokia X5, but in menu i can't find "maps" menu. > Can i install additional "Nokia maps", or "Ovi maps"? > Thanks in advance. > > Friday, February 25, 2011, 4:18:18 AM, you wrote: > >> hi, yes.. still the same. why ha? > > >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kit" >> To: "Talks Mailing List" >> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:48 AM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Issue on X5 > > >>> Hi Abang Jo, >>> >>> Have you tried with Talks 5.2?? Does it still have same problem? >>> >>> Regards, >>> KITT. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Abang Joe" >>> To: "Talks Mailing List" >>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:16 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Issue on X5 >>> >>> >>> ok bro.. thanks. is this issue with X5 only? >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Allan" >>> To: "Talks Mailing List" >>> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 7:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Issue on X5 >>> >>> open the sms and make it as forward to someone. at least this can let you read the sms in talks 5.0. -- Allan (WKF) - Original Message - From: Abang Joe To: Talks Mailing List Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 19:11 Subject: [Talks] Issue on X5 dear guys, with X5, i can sent out message, but when received, talks seem to not read the message body. it just keep on repeating the sender name/number, when cursor down to the message body. can someone show the wayn to ratify this issue? thanks. - Original Message - From: "Allan" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Activate power saving > power saving will minimize the use of battery on your handset. it will > use > lower backlight, no vibration, no indicator light, and > etc. > > > -- > > Allan (WKF) > > - Original Message - > From: Evan Silver > To: 'Talks Mailing List' > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 17:58 > Subject: [Talks] Activate power saving > > > When I tap the power button on my N86, amond the profiles I can switch > to, > is an item called "activate power saving." What does this menu item > do? > I'm actually looking for a feature that will quickly power off all the > energy draining features such as connection to 3G , Bluetooth, and GPS, > > Thanks. > > Evan > etc. without having to navigate to all of those individually. Is > "Activate > power saving" the feature I am looking for > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> >>> ___ >>> Talks mailing list >>> Talks@talksusers.com >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> >>> ___ >>> Talks mailing list >>> Talks@talksusers.com >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > >> ___ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > > > -- > Best regards, > Ivailomailto:ivailokovac...@gmail.com > > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >
Re: [Talks] n 8
One of the question I've started asking people when they start talking about the IPhone is I ask them how they are going to use the device. If they are going to primary make phone calls on it, then I tell them to look at Nokia and Talks. If they want to use it for entertainmend and make very few phone calls on it, then the IDevice may be good for them. So if you use your phone for phone functions mainly! The Nokia and Talks is the way to go. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] n 8 no problem, personally I like the iPhone, but not as a phone, as a consumption device, if I were making a recommendation to a friend, a friend who really wanted an iPhone. it would be buy an iPod Touch if you really want one, and keep with a Nokia and Talks. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 06:31, gerry cook wrote: yes i payd $320 for a licence I forgot the differences between the talks premium and standard but if i went in to about talks on tne n 95 i have i'd probably find out, but I heard a lot about the iphone and am objective on both subjects. Thanks neil. - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] n 8 Yes, the N8 does work with Talks, but just to clarify, it will at this time only work with Talks Premium, so if you are planning on asking Vodafone for a Talks standard license this will not work. so if you do not own a Talks Premium license you will need to purchase one from someone like ourselves at www.talknav.com, or if you do, then the usual transfer fee applies, again also simply and easily available at www.talknav.com if you have any more questions please do ask. regards. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 06:23, gerry cook wrote: I've been offered an n 8 by vodafone does it work ok with talks and the touch screen? ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3470 - Release Date: 02/26/11 ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Casn replace words with a symbol.
Hi! Because my n86 when it is silent use to say keypad locked. But when resetting the programs settings for d2go i made for talks it worked. But i will try to follow your tips. /A Stephen Giggar skrev 2011-02-22 17:19: Why don't you just turn off the keypad lock when in that program. There are software packages where you can tell it when i'm in this program, do not lock the keypad. I think the makers of RemindMe makes a free package you can install on your phone to do this. You can find the link on the blind sea web site under the 3rd edition software link. Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. -original message- Subject: [Talks] Casn replace words with a symbol. From: Anders Holmberg Date: 22/02/2011 9:44 AM Hi! When i am using d2go i dont want to hear keypad loked evrytime during the plaback of a daisybook. I have tried to set talks to no speech then to the tts i am using but silent to yes and now i am trying to edit the words keypad locked and change them to for example a spacebar or a komma. But it does not work for me for some reason. It keeps saying keypad locked even after i have done the changes and restarted the program and talks and the phone. Its a strange behaviour or maybe i am missing something here. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. /A ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] C5 and Talks Volume
Hi Steven Well in that case I am glad I got my c5 before they up-graded the fermware, what happens in this situation, does nokia issue a patch or do we have to wait until they issue a new full up-grade later in the year? How often do they issue up-grades. As for the price, I have seen the c5 on amazon for about £136. Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 1:56 PM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] C5 and Talks Volume Yes I did state that the C5 had volume issues if you have updated the firmware on it. I noted that last Autust/September. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thought the Talks volume on this pone took a big drop in volume. But this isn't a Talks issue, it is a firmware issue from Nokia. The C5 is a nice small cheep phone is you can still find it, But I in most cases will not suggest people get it. The case being in most cases not all cases. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Eleanor Burke" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:26 AM Subject: [Talks] C5 and Talks Volume > Interesting issues raised by Saqib. I would like to add that on my C5 the > Talks volume is very low or else I have suddenly suffered a severe hearing > loss. I have to have the volume on maximum (10) when out and then can > only hear it with all the other environmental sounds. Very disappointing. > Guess it is not a Talks issue but a C5 one. > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Nokia Accessibility & Maps - Commentary
Hi, Neil! Only problem is: Can''t download it to the phone from Nokia. Ovi and PC Suite aren't accessible to do this. Would rather be able to download the maps I need to use. That way, if cell coverage is spotty, but GPS not, I can still navigate and not depend on being online.--Matthew Chao At 01:00 AM 2/27/2011, you wrote: Can I just clarify, to the very best of my knowledge, Nokia's OVI Maps only goes online to calculate a route as and when your route travels outside of a currently none downloaded map area. so for example, if you have downloaded London, and travel from anywhere in the Capital to somewhere in the Capital, the entire routing is done on the phone and you could do that route in off line mode, meaning no cell coverage. the only time OVI Maps requires the internet is when your route goes outside a currently downloaded area, and at which time, certianly this used to be the case, OVI would auto download the map area required for that element of the journey. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 26 Feb 2011, at 15:55, Matthew Chao wrote: Hi, Paul! That's awfully disingenuous. No wonder people who are blind or visually impaired are looking more at the iPhone. I like Nokia phones because I like the good ol' fashioned keypad. But what's the point if the PC software becomes inaccessible, and you can't download maps to save battery power and not be online every time you need to navigate. Besides, there are times when you have no cell coverage, but still have GPS access. So, what happens when the online maps go away? A cobbled solution at best, or say what you mean, mean what you say.--Matthew Chao At 10:43 AM 2/26/2011, you wrote: > Its worse than that! > > Have you seen the N8 advert on TV at the moment where you have a blind > photographer using said N8 to take a photo of a roller coaster? > > As far as I know, there is nothing on the N8 in its own right which > makes it accessible enough for a blind person to access it... Third > party software like Talks not withstanding. > > How stupid are they at Nokia? > > I'm very, very happy to support any genuine effort if they make a > propper effort at accessibility but, for them to make out that all is > good cause they show a few blind people using their products is either > miss guided at best or, down right lies at worse. > > So, if anyone does have contacts to decision makers in Nokia who can > listen and take part in good constructive dialogue, I'd be interested > too. > > Cheers. > > Paul > > On 26/02/2011, Matthew Chao wrote: > > Hi, Folks! Regarding Ovi Maps and not being able to download them, I > > got up on the Nokia Web site, went to the Accessibility link, and > > then went to the Vision link. > > > > First, overall, it was nice to see a story of a woman using Ovi Maps > > to navigate, but nothing about full accessibility. That is, sure, we > > can use the maps, but only online, given how accessible Ovi Suite is NOT. > > > > Second, on the main Web site under software support, it''s mentioned > > that PC Suite will be replaced by Ovi Suite, which, as we know, is > > currently inaccessible to screenreaders on the PC. > > > > Finally, Ovi Store also seems to be inaccessible. Could actually > > make use of that app if it was accessible. > > > > My question is: has anyone contacted Nokia regarding the > > accessibility issues, and if so, has there been any feeback from > > them? If no one has brought the accessibility issue to Nokia's > > attention, is there anyone in Support who we could contact? Thanks > > in advance for any ideas regarding this matter.--Matthew Chao > > > > ___ > > Talks mailing list > > Talks@talksusers.com > > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > > and > > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > > > > -- > Paul Hopkins > Please feel free to go to the links below to find out more about the > Podcasts and audio downloads I produce and edit: > > Outlook UK Audio Magazine articles (available as individual audio downloads): > > http://www.outlook-uk.org/connecting/outlook-audio-cd-magazine > > The Look Podcast page: > > http://www.lookpodcast.libsyn.com > > Subscribe FREE to The Look Podcast with: > > http://www.lookpodcast.libsyn.com/rss > > Vipodcasting Podcast page: > > http://www.vipodcasting.libsyn.com > > Subscribe to Vipodcasting with: > > http://www.vipodcasting.libsyn.com/rss > > I am also on SKYPE, just search for vipodcasting. > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mai
[Talks] Help please inserting SIM card in Nokia E72
Hi, Sorry this isn't really Talks related but would anyone who has had or does have a Nokia E72 be willing to give instructions on how to insert the SIM card? I'm pulling on the tray but it only seems to come out half way, and there is a strange metal pin on the right hand side which doesn't seem to do anything. Thanks in advance for your help. ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Help please inserting SIM card in Nokia E72
Hi Hussain. As I remember it that tray has a small gap under it. The sim slides in between the tray and the lower metal component. It's a bit tricky to get the sim in. Original message: Hi, Sorry this isn't really Talks related but would anyone who has had or does have a Nokia E72 be willing to give instructions on how to insert the SIM card? I'm pulling on the tray but it only seems to come out half way, and there is a strange metal pin on the right hand side which doesn't seem to do anything. Thanks in advance for your help. ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
[Talks] Ovi Maps 3.06 for the N86, a question
Hi, Folks! Noticed that there's an update for Ovi Maps for the N86 on the Blindsea Web site. My N86 has Version 3.04. Question: Should I uninstall the older version before installing the new one, or can I just overwrite it? Thanks in advance for your help.--Matthew Chao ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
[Talks] Oops, My Bad
Hi, again, Folks. Well, the latest version is 3.04 for the N86 on the Blindsea.com site. However, if I can get an updated version, do I have to install the older version before installing the new one? Thanks.--Matthew Chao ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] n 8
Talks is working fine with N8 but with some side issue. 1. at beginning, you must at least get a sighted help for customizing the new homescreen. as a talks user, you will encounter problem like: *adding or removing widgets from the homescreen. *adding or removing shortcut bar on the homescreen. but after the shortcut bar is added, you can easily add or remove icons by yourself. * need a sighted guide to tell you which homescreen page you are located and get you to understand more to the structure on the homescreen. you can delete any of the 3 homescreen page if you doesn't need that much of shortcuts or widgets on the homescreen. you can readded when you need it in the future. * afther you added shortcuts at the shortcut widget, you must lable those icons manually as talks will only recognize them as "icon". overall, Talks 5.20 is working very fine in N8. if anyone of you need to know more about N8, you can write to me offlist or if wanted to share to the list, just ask on the list if the list owner allow it. -- Allan (WKF) - Original Message - From: gerry cook To: talks Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 14:23 Subject: [Talks] n 8 I've been offered an n 8 by vodafone does it work ok with talks and the touch screen? ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Oops, My Bad
you can just install on top of the older one. -- Allan (WKF) - Original Message - From: Matthew Chao To: talks@talksusers.com Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 23:33 Subject: [Talks] Oops, My Bad Hi, again, Folks. Well, the latest version is 3.04 for the N86 on the Blindsea.com site. However, if I can get an updated version, do I have to install the older version before installing the new one? Thanks.--Matthew Chao ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Help please inserting SIM card in Nokia E72
Hi Saqib, Thanks, worked a treat and it's now up and running. I'm always nervous that I'll break something so was hesitant to try it before. -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Saqib Sent: 27 February 2011 15:02 To: talks@talksusers.com Subject: Re: [Talks] Help please inserting SIM card in Nokia E72 Hi Hussain. As I remember it that tray has a small gap under it. The sim slides in between the tray and the lower metal component. It's a bit tricky to get the sim in. Original message: > Hi, > Sorry this isn't really Talks related but would anyone who has had or does > have a Nokia E72 be willing to give instructions on how to insert the SIM > card? I'm pulling on the tray but it only seems to come out half way, and > there is a strange metal pin on the right hand side which doesn't seem to do > anything. > Thanks in advance for your help. > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] n 8
Stephen, that's exactly what I say to people, Apple iOS devices are for consumption, if you're listening to music, watching TV movies, reading e-mail etc, then Voice Over and an iOS device are perfect, if you wish to do a fair share of input, tex messaging, e-mail writing etc, then a more traditional Nokia with Talks / MS is probably a more suited solution. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 12:58, Stephen Giggar wrote: One of the question I've started asking people when they start talking about the IPhone is I ask them how they are going to use the device. If they are going to primary make phone calls on it, then I tell them to look at Nokia and Talks. If they want to use it for entertain mend and make very few phone calls on it, then the IDevice may be good for them. So if you use your phone for phone functions mainly! The Nokia and Talks is the way to go. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] n 8 > no problem, personally I like the iPhone, but not as a phone, as a > consumption device, if I were making a recommendation to a friend, a friend > who really wanted an iPhone. it would be buy an iPod Touch if you really want > one, and keep with a Nokia and Talks. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > Talks List Administrator > > Twitter @NeilBarnfather > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > On 27 Feb 2011, at 06:31, gerry cook wrote: > > yes i payd $320 for a licence I forgot the differences between the talks > premium and standard but if i went in to about talks on tne n 95 i have i'd > probably find out, but I heard a lot about the iphone and am objective on > both subjects. Thanks neil. > - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" > > To: "Talks Mailing List" > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:25 PM > Subject: Re: [Talks] n 8 > > >> Yes, the N8 does work with Talks, but just to clarify, it will at this time >> only work with Talks Premium, so if you are planning on asking Vodafone for >> a Talks standard license this will not work. >> >> so if you do not own a Talks Premium license you will need to purchase one >> from someone like ourselves at www.talknav.com, or if you do, then the usual >> transfer fee applies, again also simply and easily available at >> www.talknav.com >> >> if you have any more questions please do ask. >> >> regards. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> Talks List Administrator >> >> Twitter @NeilBarnfather >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> On 27 Feb 2011, at 06:23, gerry cook wrote: >> >> I've been offered an n 8 by vodafone does it work ok with talks and the >> touch screen? >> ___ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> >> ___ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> >> >> - >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3470 - Release Date: 02/26/11 > > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com
Re: [Talks] C5 and Talks Volume
It is only if you plug it into your PC and you have a later copy of PC Suite it may alert you that there is a UPDATE for your phone. I would suggest at this time, that you not update the firmware if given this notification for the C5. Depending on where you buy the C5 from, it may not have had the firmware udpated on it. In saying the above, if you want the latest OVI Maps and some things like that, then you may not have the choice if you want those functions accept to upgrade the firmware. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Adrien Collins" To: "'Talks Mailing List'" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] C5 and Talks Volume Hi Steven Well in that case I am glad I got my c5 before they up-graded the fermware, what happens in this situation, does nokia issue a patch or do we have to wait until they issue a new full up-grade later in the year? How often do they issue up-grades. As for the price, I have seen the c5 on amazon for about £136. Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 1:56 PM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] C5 and Talks Volume Yes I did state that the C5 had volume issues if you have updated the firmware on it. I noted that last Autust/September. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thought the Talks volume on this pone took a big drop in volume. But this isn't a Talks issue, it is a firmware issue from Nokia. The C5 is a nice small cheep phone is you can still find it, But I in most cases will not suggest people get it. The case being in most cases not all cases. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Eleanor Burke" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:26 AM Subject: [Talks] C5 and Talks Volume Interesting issues raised by Saqib. I would like to add that on my C5 the Talks volume is very low or else I have suddenly suffered a severe hearing loss. I have to have the volume on maximum (10) when out and then can only hear it with all the other environmental sounds. Very disappointing. Guess it is not a Talks issue but a C5 one. ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
[Talks] Instal help required!
Can someone pls tell how to instal Talks on Nokia C5 ? Thanks ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please.
thanks for that useful info. I really like the spec list for the N8, especially as there now seems to also be a 32gb version of it, but the problems people are having over this home screen issue does concirn me a bit, as I get hardly any access to any form of sighted assistance, that I could use for sorting out issues like those mentioned on the list. The E7 could have been in the running, but doesn't seem to have any memory card slot, is this right? Simon - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] Looking to upgrade, could do with some help please. Simon, With Nokia phones running Talks, significant memory is achieved by inputting a large memory card and not per say by internal memory. in general a 32Gb memory card is quite easily and cheaply obtainable for these phones, and I'm sure that the newer ones can even take the 64Gb cards. now looking at feature packed phones which support Talks: N8, C7 or E7, I don't have the specs here off hand, but if you go to the Nokia site, these are only three phones, and shouldn't take that long to review. they are all Nokia's latest offerings and all run Talks. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2011, at 07:26, goshawk on horseback wrote: Hello list, am looking to upgrade my phone, which is now starting to develop a few problems. Have given some serious thought to the IPhone 4 after hearing a couple of articles about it, but have previously been very satisfied with talks, so would also like to get some info on the latest phones that will work with talks. However, there doesn't seem to be an up to date list of talks phones, and the one I did find is now next to useless, as it just gives model numbers, but has no specs/features listings, which I could really do with to make an informed choice. I am really looking for something really feature packed, and with plenty of available memory, for things like films, music, audio books, etc. Simon ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Instal help required!
I put Tallks on the memory card. I knew it was last on list of memory card. Then I had shortcut key set to left arrow by sighted person, had date and time put correctly and then I knew how to install by pressing the select key a few times. I know people do all this without any sight but I always need that little bit of sighted help. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 6:12 PM Subject: [Talks] Instal help required! Can someone pls tell how to instal Talks on Nokia C5 ? Thanks ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Nokia Accessibility & Maps - Commentary
thats correct. Data connection is only require when ovi map itself can't find maps info or route info on the phone memory or memory card. - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia Accessibility & Maps - Commentary Can I just clarify, to the very best of my knowledge, Nokia's OVI Maps only goes online to calculate a route as and when your route travels outside of a currently none downloaded map area. so for example, if you have downloaded London, and travel from anywhere in the Capital to somewhere in the Capital, the entire routing is done on the phone and you could do that route in off line mode, meaning no cell coverage. the only time OVI Maps requires the internet is when your route goes outside a currently downloaded area, and at which time, certianly this used to be the case, OVI would auto download the map area required for that element of the journey. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 26 Feb 2011, at 15:55, Matthew Chao wrote: Hi, Paul! That's awfully disingenuous. No wonder people who are blind or visually impaired are looking more at the iPhone. I like Nokia phones because I like the good ol' fashioned keypad. But what's the point if the PC software becomes inaccessible, and you can't download maps to save battery power and not be online every time you need to navigate. Besides, there are times when you have no cell coverage, but still have GPS access. So, what happens when the online maps go away? A cobbled solution at best, or say what you mean, mean what you say.--Matthew Chao At 10:43 AM 2/26/2011, you wrote: Its worse than that! Have you seen the N8 advert on TV at the moment where you have a blind photographer using said N8 to take a photo of a roller coaster? As far as I know, there is nothing on the N8 in its own right which makes it accessible enough for a blind person to access it... Third party software like Talks not withstanding. How stupid are they at Nokia? I'm very, very happy to support any genuine effort if they make a propper effort at accessibility but, for them to make out that all is good cause they show a few blind people using their products is either miss guided at best or, down right lies at worse. So, if anyone does have contacts to decision makers in Nokia who can listen and take part in good constructive dialogue, I'd be interested too. Cheers. Paul On 26/02/2011, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks! Regarding Ovi Maps and not being able to download them, I > got up on the Nokia Web site, went to the Accessibility link, and > then went to the Vision link. > > First, overall, it was nice to see a story of a woman using Ovi Maps > to navigate, but nothing about full accessibility. That is, sure, we > can use the maps, but only online, given how accessible Ovi Suite is > NOT. > > Second, on the main Web site under software support, it''s mentioned > that PC Suite will be replaced by Ovi Suite, which, as we know, is > currently inaccessible to screenreaders on the PC. > > Finally, Ovi Store also seems to be inaccessible. Could actually > make use of that app if it was accessible. > > My question is: has anyone contacted Nokia regarding the > accessibility issues, and if so, has there been any feeback from > them? If no one has brought the accessibility issue to Nokia's > attention, is there anyone in Support who we could contact? Thanks > in advance for any ideas regarding this matter.--Matthew Chao > > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > -- Paul Hopkins Please feel free to go to the links below to find out more about the Podcasts and audio downloads I produce and edit: Outlook UK Audio Magazine articles (available as individual audio downloads): http://www.outlook-uk.org/connecting/outlook-audio-cd-magazine The Look Podcast page: http://www.lookpodcast.libsyn.com Subscribe FREE to The Look Podcast with: http://www.lookpodcast.libsyn.com/rss Vipodcasting Podcast page: http://www.vipodcasting.libsyn.com Subscribe to Vipodcasting with: http://www.vipodcasting.libsyn.com/rss I am also on SKYPE, just search for vipodcasting. ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _
Re: [Talks] Nokia Accessibility & Maps - Commentary
On whether it's worth the bother for us to write to Nokia, I'd only say that if we don't make our opinions known then there's no way we'll make any headway in getting more accessibility into newer phones and applications. On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 09:01:22PM +, Paul Hopkins wrote: > Thanks Matt, I'll talk to them and see what they have to say. > > Saquib: We are not just talking about lack of access to the camera as > you can see from this thread. You will also note the involvement of > blind people in recent Nokia marketing. > > You are right in that our phones are accessible now but, we are > falling further behind as it seems that our third party screen readers > are working less reliably with what we have come to expect as standard > as blind people and not at all with some desirables. > > So, I'll be the blinkie who at least asks the questions. > > Cheers. > > Paul > > > On 26/02/2011, Saqib wrote: > > Hi. I personally don't think it's worth the bother. A few blinks > > writing to them isn't going to move mountins. We already have access > > to our current phones so what's the big deal if a blind person can use > > a N8 or not as far as camera usage is concerned. > > Original message: > >> They are not stupid Paul, they are trying to see the phone to those people > >> who think they cannot use a camera. I would say the advert, if proven > >> that > >> it is not a blind person, is in poor taste and Nokia should be challenged. > >> We can write indivjidually or if someone made available some tyjpe of form > >> we could all sign, you know the tyjpe of thing, like if someone is unwell > >> or > >> whatever, like signing the WFA petition, then we could all as blind people > >> worldwide challenge Nokia on this. > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Paul Hopkins" > >> To: "Talks Mailing List" > >> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 3:43 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia Accessibility & Maps - Commentary > > > > > >>> Its worse than that! > > > >>> Have you seen the N8 advert on TV at the moment where you have a blind > >>> photographer using said N8 to take a photo of a roller coaster? > > > >>> As far as I know, there is nothing on the N8 in its own right which > >>> makes it accessible enough for a blind person to access it... Third > >>> party software like Talks not withstanding. > > > >>> How stupid are they at Nokia? > > > >>> I'm very, very happy to support any genuine effort if they make a > >>> propper effort at accessibility but, for them to make out that all is > >>> good cause they show a few blind people using their products is either > >>> miss guided at best or, down right lies at worse. > > > >>> So, if anyone does have contacts to decision makers in Nokia who can > >>> listen and take part in good constructive dialogue, I'd be interested > >>> too. > > > >>> Cheers. > > > >>> Paul > > > >>> On 26/02/2011, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks! Regarding Ovi Maps and not being able to download them, I > got up on the Nokia Web site, went to the Accessibility link, and > then went to the Vision link. > > > First, overall, it was nice to see a story of a woman using Ovi Maps > to navigate, but nothing about full accessibility. That is, sure, we > can use the maps, but only online, given how accessible Ovi Suite is > NOT. > > > Second, on the main Web site under software support, it''s mentioned > that PC Suite will be replaced by Ovi Suite, which, as we know, is > currently inaccessible to screenreaders on the PC. > > > Finally, Ovi Store also seems to be inaccessible. Could actually > make use of that app if it was accessible. > > > My question is: has anyone contacted Nokia regarding the > accessibility issues, and if so, has there been any feeback from > them? If no one has brought the accessibility issue to Nokia's > attention, is there anyone in Support who we could contact? Thanks > in advance for any ideas regarding this matter.--Matthew Chao > > > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > > > > > > >>> -- > >>> Paul Hopkins > >>> Please feel free to go to the links below to find out more about the > >>> Podcasts and audio downloads I produce and edit: > > > >>> Outlook UK Audio Magazine articles (available as individual audio > >>> downloads): > > > >>> http://www.outlook-uk.org/connecting/outlook-audio-cd-magazine > > > >>> The Look Podcast page: > > > >>> http://www.lookpodcast.libsyn.com > > > >>> Subscribe FREE to The Look Podcast with: > > > >>> http://www.lookpodcast.libsyn.com/rss > > > >>> Vipodcasting Podcast page: > > > >>> http://www.vipodcasting.libsyn.com > > > >>> Subscribe to Vip
