Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - art gallery
2010/11/6 Tom Chance : > This debate was settled in the discussion page. Martin and I have reanimated > the debate there, I suggest anyone who has views on this add them to the > wiki. As you can see from my voting comment, I have other objections as well: gallery has a lot of different meanings, in architecture alone there is 4 and more, in mining, etc. Your own page has the prefixed "art_gallery" in the title for disambiguity reasons, but the proposed tag is "gallery". The context given by "tourism" doesn't help either. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - art gallery
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:22:50 +0100 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > As you can see from my voting comment, I have other objections as > well: gallery has a lot of different meanings, in architecture alone > there is 4 and more, in mining, etc. press gallery peanut gallery and a use in the theatre where you get heckled from the gallery too ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - art gallery
On 7 November 2010 19:46, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > and a use in the theatre where you get heckled from the gallery too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14njUwJUg1I ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tidying up arts venues
2010/11/6 Tom Chance : > For now, in the absence of that key, we have to decide whether these > features sit in amenity or tourism. no, not at all. We don't "have" to decide on an inadequate tag just because there "is" not already a suitable on. I'd rather disencourage to do so. If you changed tourism=gallery to culture=art_gallery there will indeed be "culture" as main key. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tidying up arts venues
2010/11/6 Tom Chance : > I like the idea of a "culture" key. Would you like to draft a proposal? done, see here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/culture cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
I would like to invite you to take part in the discussion for a new key "culture". The first draft is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/culture the discussion should mainly take place on the mailing list IMHO, because I consider it more suitable for discussions. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
Hi, Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would helpfull. although there needs to be a clear difference from 'tourism' key. perhaps 'tourism' is reserved for things that are designed primarly for the benifit of visitors to the area, were 'culture' is more for locals 'cultural activities/things/places. I'll have a better answer in a few weeks. cheers, sam On 11/7/10, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I would like to invite you to take part in the discussion for a new > key "culture". > The first draft is here: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/culture > > the discussion should mainly take place on the mailing list IMHO, > because I consider it more suitable for discussions. > > cheers, > Martin > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
In general I like this proposal, but given that this changes a substantial number of very well used tags that go back to almost the beginning of the project it is essential to describe how existing data will be migrated across, tools updated, mappers notified, etc. The other job, similar to the shop key, will be to elaborate a longer list of values and to clearly disambiguate between them. For example, how does one draw the line between art_gallery / museum, between nightclub / music_venue, between historical monuments/memorials and art_works, etc. On 7 November 2010 13:04, Sam Vekemans wrote: > > Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would > helpfull. On this particular suggestion, I think community centers are definitely amenities. Regards, Tom -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
Hi Martin, the idea sounds really good :) In my opinion it would be a good step to unite the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Tagging_guidelines Matthias ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Tom Chance wrote: > On 7 November 2010 13:04, Sam Vekemans > wrote: >> >> Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would >> helpfull. > > On this particular suggestion, I think community centers are definitely > amenities. All the culture=* tags describe amenities. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
Am 07.11.2010 14:04, schrieb Sam Vekemans: Hi, Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would helpfull. although there needs to be a clear difference from 'tourism' key. perhaps 'tourism' is reserved for things that are designed primarly for the benifit of visitors to the area, were 'culture' is more for locals 'cultural activities/things/places. I came to the conclusion, that deciding if e.g. a museum better fits in tourism or leisure is pointless - as it is both and the decision will largely depend on your personal bias and the museum in question. I'll have a better answer in a few weeks. You may have a look at recent versions of JOSM. I have spend quite some time thinking about how to put these into the preset menu so that it makes sense. The solution that made most sense to me (and doesn't take care too much about the existing tags) is: - tourism - culture - leisure Limit tourism to signposts, information bureaus and alike. Deciding between culture and leisure is a lot easier then ... Regards, ULFL ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
Thanks, I'll have a look at the latest version of josm, and see your menu tree structure, before commenting further :) poke me if i dont :) cheers, sam On 11/7/10, Ulf Lamping wrote: > Am 07.11.2010 14:04, schrieb Sam Vekemans: >> Hi, >> Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would >> helpfull. >> >> >> although there needs to be a clear difference from 'tourism' key. >> perhaps 'tourism' is reserved for things that are designed primarly >> for the benifit of visitors to the area, were 'culture' is more for >> locals 'cultural activities/things/places. > > I came to the conclusion, that deciding if e.g. a museum better fits in > tourism or leisure is pointless - as it is both and the decision will > largely depend on your personal bias and the museum in question. > >> I'll have a better answer in a few weeks. > > You may have a look at recent versions of JOSM. I have spend quite some > time thinking about how to put these into the preset menu so that it > makes sense. > > The solution that made most sense to me (and doesn't take care too much > about the existing tags) is: > > - tourism > - culture > - leisure > > Limit tourism to signposts, information bureaus and alike. > > Deciding between culture and leisure is a lot easier then ... > > Regards, ULFL > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
2010/11/7 Sam Vekemans : > Hi, > Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would > helpfull. > > > although there needs to be a clear difference from 'tourism' key. I think the current definition of tourism is not too bad: "Places and things of specific interest to tourists: places to see, places to stay, things and places providing support." I'd adjust the definition to reality: "Places and things provided mainly or exclusively for tourists and visitors". Places to stay have never been part of "tourism" in OSM, "things of specific interest" might be OK, but might be of "specific interests to locals" as well. "places to see" is also not the point of a definition IMHO. It is OK for tourism=attraction (which itself might merit a subtag to get a finer graduation of hierarchy, say 3 levels) to flag otherwise already described elements. E.g. a fountain, a church, an opera, a museum, a lake, a waterfall, a statue, a square, ... But besides an "interesting for tourists"-flag I don't see a point in putting any of these in tourism. > perhaps 'tourism' is reserved for things that are designed primarly > for the benifit of visitors to the area, were 'culture' is more for > locals 'cultural activities/things/places. I don't think "culture" has to be reduced according to an expected or supposed audience. It would not really help IMHO. I'm fine with your tourism-definition. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
2010/11/7 Tom Chance : > In general I like this proposal, but given that this changes a substantial > number of very well used tags that go back to almost the beginning of the > project it is essential to describe how existing data will be migrated > across, tools updated, mappers notified, etc. some IMHO we could simply start using it. Tools will get amended "automatically", as soon as a substancial number of items is tagged with it. If there is a general agreement we could also use a bot to add the tag to existing items. As soon as all (or most) "major" applications have added the tag we could mark deprecated the old tags in the wiki and discourage usage. This has been done for e.g. highway=gate > The other job, similar to the shop key, will be to elaborate a longer list > of values and to clearly disambiguate between them. For example, how does > one draw the line between art_gallery / museum Yes, I committed a mistake here, was in a hurry, it better should be museum:genre=art_gallery actually. This is the way it is done in theatre and it works well. > , between nightclub / > music_venue, are they relevant here? > between historical monuments/memorials and art_works, etc. there doesn't have to be any distinction: if it is a memorial, tag it historic=memorial, if it qualifies at the same time for artwork, tag it with culture=artwork as well. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
Am 7. November 2010 14:21 schrieb Matthias Meißer : > Hi Martin, > In my opinion it would be a good step to unite the > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Tagging_guidelines I don't understand this. How is it related to this proposal? The linked page looks at first glance like an attempt to document different "best practise" -modells. I rather prefer to try to get _one_ documentation instead of several. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
2010/11/7 Anthony : > All the culture=* tags describe amenities. It is true that they are at least partly a subgroup of amenity, which is by general judgement quite overcrowded at the moment. A subgroup that incorporates objects that share a certain aspect and can therefore be moved to this key (as amenity doesn't really tell you something more then "POI" currently). cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
2010/11/7 Ulf Lamping :
> I came to the conclusion, that deciding if e.g. a museum better fits in
> tourism or leisure is pointless - as it is both and the decision will
> largely depend on your personal bias and the museum in question.
yes, and both is not suitable to give a good description, as "leisure"
and "tourism" both mean almost nothing: leisure is everything you do
when you are not payed, tourists do all kind of stuff according to
their personal inclination. It could also be "tourism=beach" which
most Germans would maybe find OK, while if you live somewhere with a
beach you would say that the beach is "yours" (as well).
> You may have a look at recent versions of JOSM. I have spend quite some time
> thinking about how to put these into the preset menu so that it makes sense.
> The solution that made most sense to me (and doesn't take care too much
> about the existing tags) is:
>
> - tourism
> - culture
> - leisure
this sounds reasonable. I wanted for a long time to have culture, but
my last attempts couldn't find support some time ago...
> Limit tourism to signposts, information bureaus and alike.
+1. Not sure for tourism=viewpoint. Is OK IMHO, but could also become
a key (viewpoint=yes/)
> Deciding between culture and leisure is a lot easier then ...
IMHO leisure is not a very good key either and the definition is too
inclusive ("is a Key for all the places where people go for
recreation/leisure."), because some people go to the library, others
to the beach, others in the mountains, some like to read, some go
cycling, some go mapping, ... I'd say the key (definition) is weak
because you can put almost everything into it by this definition. But
in reality it almost works, there is few stuff that doesn't belong to
a similar group of items:
Currently leisure lists the following main tags:
dog_park
sports_centre
golf_course
stadium
track
pitch
water_park
marina
slipway (is clearly a technical facility for boats and has nothing to
do with "leisure" IMHO).
fishing
nature_reserve
park
playground
garden
common
ice_rink
miniature_golf
dance
swimming_pool
So I don't want to touch leisure at the moment, though I see it less
general then "all you can do or need in your spare time" and more
focussed on sports and "official leisure activities" like fishing and
going to the park. I would not object on putting garden and park in
landuse though.
cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
On 7 November 2010 17:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/11/7 Tom Chance : > > In general I like this proposal, but given that this changes a > substantial > > number of very well used tags that go back to almost the beginning of the > > project it is essential to describe how existing data will be migrated > > across, tools updated, mappers notified, etc. > some > > IMHO we could simply start using it. Tools will get amended > "automatically", as soon as a substancial number of items is tagged > with it. As somebody who makes substantial use of the data, I would really prefer to see a proactive effort to update existing nodes/ways. OSM data becomes quite useless when you get tagging this mixed. Since this wouldn't be a destructive edit - you just, for example, add culture=museum to a feature already tagged with tourism=museum - I don't have a problem with a bot or efforts to mass-update certain cities. I'd certainly do the whole of London in the absence of a bot. > The other job, similar to the shop key, will be to elaborate a longer list > > of values and to clearly disambiguate between them. For example, how does > > one draw the line between art_gallery / museum > > Yes, I committed a mistake here, was in a hurry, it better should be > museum:genre=art_gallery actually. This is the way it is done in > theatre and it works well. > We have to find some resolution to this! I completely disagree and think it may be a linguistic difference - nobody in the British art world would find your solution appropriate :-) > , between nightclub / > > music_venue, > > are they relevant here? > Well one is an accepted amenity but is arguably better placed in culture (nightclub), the other is another long-dormant proposal that is also a cultural venue. So yes, they're relevant. > between historical monuments/memorials and art_works, etc. > > there doesn't have to be any distinction: if it is a memorial, tag it > historic=memorial, if it qualifies at the same time for artwork, tag > it with culture=artwork as well. > That is true, we will also need to describe for the avoidance of doubt when it is appropriate to mark a memorial as an art work and vice versa. Regards, Tom -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
2010/11/7 Tom Chance : > On 7 November 2010 17:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> IMHO we could simply start using it. Tools will get amended >> "automatically", as soon as a substancial number of items is tagged >> with it. > > As somebody who makes substantial use of the data, I would really prefer to > see a proactive effort to update existing nodes/ways. fine, then do it. I support this. >> > of values and to clearly disambiguate between them. For example, how >> > does >> > one draw the line between art_gallery / museum >> >> Yes, I committed a mistake here, was in a hurry, it better should be >> museum:genre=art_gallery actually. This is the way it is done in >> theatre and it works well. > > We have to find some resolution to this! I completely disagree and think it > may be a linguistic difference - nobody in the British art world would find > your solution appropriate :-) don't know. It seems that the british art world is not very active on wikipedia then, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_gallery redirects to art_museum ;-) The museum article gives this definition that fits well with my own one: "A museum is a building or institution that houses and cares for a collection of artifacts and other objects of scientific, artistic, or historical importance and makes them available for public viewing through exhibits that may be permanent or temporary." As you can see, "artistic" is included. >> > , between nightclub / >> > music_venue, >> >> are they relevant here? > > Well one is an accepted amenity but is arguably better placed in culture > (nightclub), the other is another long-dormant proposal that is also a > cultural venue. So yes, they're relevant. well, not sure for nightclub if it is well placed in culture. We could discuss about this, I'm not completely against but next you will propose pubs to be entered as culture? Well, actually could be fine as well. What do the others think? > That is true, we will also need to describe for the avoidance of doubt when > it is appropriate to mark a memorial as an art work and vice versa. no, we will not have to IMHO, and we cannot. This has to be done on a case-by-case judgement and there might always be room to see it either way. I don't see this as a problem actually. The more details you add the better a data consumer would be able to filter it out or in. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
someone tried to change the meaning of culture=arts_centre by amending the text to a meaning different of the one of amenity=arts_centre and added also a new tag culture=community_arts_centre (without specifying what this should be, but I guess it is our "good old" arts_centre). Please do not do this in this proposal for a new culture key! Changing the meaning of well established tags should go to another proposal. This proposal is mainly about introducing a new key, and not about redefining of already in use values. I removed culture=community_arts_centre as I don't see the point in it. We already have community centre and arts centre. If you want to introduce new values, please elaborate on a definition and probably make a different proposal for this change. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
On 7 November 2010 18:34, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > don't know. It seems that the british art world is not very active on > wikipedia then, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_gallery redirects to > art_museum ;-) > Ah, Wikipedia, that well known internationally agreed source of definitions for words ;-) I forgot that we need to slavishly follow anything we spot in Wikipedia or that other well-worn blind alley one's online dictionary of choice. As I wrote on the wiki, we have separate amenity values for bar, pub and nightclub instead of amenity=drinking_establishment; we have shop values for butcher, baker and grocer instead of a generic shop=food followed by a sub-tag to define the type of food. There is no rule that says, because art galleries are often considered a sort of museum, we must relegate "art gallery" to a sub-type of culture=museum. There is no problem with culture=museum, and since a great many art galleries don't describe themselves as museums it would be worse to make everyone use culture=museum plus some sub-tags. well, not sure for nightclub if it is well placed in culture. We could > discuss about this, I'm not completely against but next you will > propose pubs to be entered as culture? Well, actually could be fine as > well. What do the others think? > Well pubs and bars do probably belong in amenity. Nightclubs are comparatively unimportant places where we go to dance and listen to music, which fits my definition of culture! Regards, Tom -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:15 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/11/7 Anthony : > >> All the culture=* tags describe amenities. > > It is true that they are at least partly a subgroup of amenity, which > is by general judgement quite overcrowded at the moment. Overcrowded? Less than 0.1% of possible values are taken. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 14:43:28 -0500 Anthony wrote: > > It is true that they are at least partly a subgroup of amenity, > > which is by general judgement quite overcrowded at the moment. > > Overcrowded? Less than 0.1% of possible > values are taken. How about containing too many to search effectively? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:18:33 + Tom Chance wrote: > > don't know. It seems that the british art world is not very active > > on wikipedia then, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_gallery > > redirects to art_museum ;-) > > > > Ah, Wikipedia, that well known internationally agreed source of > definitions for words ;-) I forgot that we need to slavishly follow > anything we spot in Wikipedia or that other well-worn blind alley > one's online dictionary of choice. One can edit Wikipedia if it doesn't suit - I've seen that used to "solve" an argument on osm already. > > As I wrote on the wiki, we have separate amenity values for bar, pub > and nightclub instead of amenity=drinking_establishment; we have shop > values for butcher, baker and grocer instead of a generic shop=food > followed by a sub-tag to define the type of food. There is no rule > that says, because art galleries are often considered a sort of > museum, we must relegate "art gallery" to a sub-type of > culture=museum. I don't have a problem with permanent art exhibitions being labelled as a type of museum. Indeed many museums concentrate on cultural artifacts. I'm thinking of one in Athens full of cultural artifacts from the height of the Athenian city state. We call it a museum, but it is an art gallery devoted to a particular time period, so the logic of the two terms overlaps considerably. an art gallery in English does not clearly distinguish between the shop where art is sold and the permanent exhibition. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 14:43:28 -0500 > Anthony wrote: > >> > It is true that they are at least partly a subgroup of amenity, >> > which is by general judgement quite overcrowded at the moment. >> >> Overcrowded? Less than 0.1% of possible >> values are taken. > > How about containing too many to search effectively? Search in what context? How does arbitrarily partitioning into overlapping categories make searching any easier? One of the best things I ever did to facilitate searching my general reference file drawers was to get rid of the multitude of arbitrary overlapping categories. Categories are great if you're dealing with a system which allows some sort of symbolic linking, but when it comes to storage of things which can only be at one location at a time, categories don't work unless they consist of very carefully designed partitions. The great thing with storing things without categories is you can always create an index outside of the actual storage location, and that index can have *overlapping* categories in it. Is is really obvious to everyone but me which of (archaeological_site, art_gallery, artwork, bar, bookstore, cafe, cinema, dance, garden, library, memorial, monument, museum, park, pub, sports_centre, stadium, theatre, theme_park, and zoo) are supposed to be "culture" and which are supposed to be some other key? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] GeoNames to Garmin Custom Map to Geonames conversion
Hi Marcel & Geonames group, and others, I have now completed the analysis of the Geonames and Garmin Map Features conversion. I narrowed the list down to 1,024 features https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Am70fsptsPF2dDZJYUtjMVF4Mk1Yc3B6c0ktVlRiNEE&hl=en The 1st 5 columns, A-E are of use to Marcel to be able to update the geonames2mp conversion script to make the Garmin maps from it. I then went through the list of Garmin Features and matched it back up with the geonames list. For this version, i set it to read-only, as i am now working on the chart in more detail, by adding in the Natural Resources Canada - CanVec Map Features, and purging the catelogue into this list. The result being, a more complete comprehensive list of the map features, with even better descriptions :) If anyone finds any errors, please let me know, so then i can fix it as i am working on it. My aim is to get this next part done in the next week, so i will update the chart with the addition of the Natural Resources Canada features. Hope this helps, Cheers, Sam --- Across Canada Trails - Beyond 2017 - The National Trails Network Victoria, BC Canada Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blog: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: 'Sam Vekemans' IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #CommonMap The Common Map channel (an open chat room) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
On Domingo 07 Noviembre 2010 13:04:31 Sam Vekemans escribió: > Hi, > Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would Independeltly of if they are culture or not, should only one of these two be used. We do not need two tags for exactly the same thing, do we? Noel er Envite signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
I think we can simply say that "culture=museum" is for "every building or intitution that names itself as", and let it have other key, subordinated, like museum=art, museum=history, museum=technology, museum=anthropology, museum=natural_history, museum=science. Thse cover almost all possible museum uses, since the Honey House Museum we have at Tenerife will be museum=anthropology, since it describes how thing were done by our ancestors and are done today, and the (not yet build) Carnival Museum will be museum=art and museum=history at the same time, since it will show art pieces (the Carnival Queen dresses) and some historic pieces from the ongoing of those acts. Similarly, most military museums would be =history (mostly with =technology and or =anthropology) and can be additionally tagged with military=yes (as they probably actually are). Noel er Envite ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 16:13:52 -0500 Anthony wrote: > Is is really obvious to everyone but me which of (archaeological_site, > art_gallery, artwork, bar, bookstore, cafe, cinema, dance, garden, > library, memorial, monument, museum, park, pub, sports_centre, > stadium, theatre, theme_park, and zoo) are supposed to be "culture" > and which are supposed to be some other key? no, it's not apparent. but the amenity space is still overcrowded and difficult to search perhaps a job for the wiki-fiddlers institute recategorise on the wiki only so that whether it's a shop, an amenity, a landuse a 'something' can appear in more than one list lists of things in buildings lists of things in towns lists of historic things ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
