[RE-wrenches] Imax disturbance Error
Hello Wrenches, I've got a customer that has an issue with their ~10 yr old SB8000US connected to a quad stack of Sunny Island system that's off-grid. It looks like it's on and off, trying to make power but seems to think there is a problem on the AC side. Do you have any advice as to what may be going on? Anything that I can do that may not require replacement? Very tough communicating to SMA while on site and of course, this always happens on Friday night. Thanks! -- Mac Lewis *"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates* ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Imax disturbance Error
Hey Mac, It’s been my experience over the years that the Imax failure is fatal. marco On Sunday, January 9, 2022, Mac Lewis wrote: > Hello Wrenches, > > I've got a customer that has an issue with their ~10 yr old SB8000US > connected to a quad stack of Sunny Island system that's off-grid. > > It looks like it's on and off, trying to make power but seems to think > there is a problem on the AC side. Do you have any advice as to what may > be going on? Anything that I can do that may not require replacement? > Very tough communicating to SMA while on site and of course, this always > happens on Friday night. > > Thanks! > > -- > > > > Mac Lewis > > *"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates* > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] PAE series surge capacity/ power factor ?
Hello we have a lot of PAE series magnum inverters out there. One client lately has been experiencing voltage drop and failure of PCBs in two of his household appliances. I know it’s common to have some dimming of the lights when a well pump or other large load kicks on, but has anyone ran across a solution to alleviate the problem or boost up the voltage / condition it, in any way ? I’m not sure if this just happens with low battery voltage, or always The inverter is located ~ 300 ft from the main electrical panel with #2/2/2/4 URD feeders to an outdoor disco, then 8 AWG copper to the mains panel. 4448 PAE with one string of 6CS21P Batteries. Jeremy Rodriguez Solar Installation / Design Expert All Solar, Inc. 1453 M St Penrose Colorado Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand! ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Imax disturbance Error
I was troubleshooting a site on Friday with the same Imax error on the same SB8000 inverter. Took the cover off and found a cracked capacitor. Inverter was manufactured 12/2021 and SMA is telling me it’s out of warranty (by a week). I’m trying to appeal to their humanity. Good luck! Garrison Riegel Celestar Solar > On Jan 9, 2022, at 11:55 AM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: > > Hey Mac, > > It’s been my experience over the years that the Imax failure is fatal. > > marco > >> On Sunday, January 9, 2022, Mac Lewis wrote: >> Hello Wrenches, >> >> I've got a customer that has an issue with their ~10 yr old SB8000US >> connected to a quad stack of Sunny Island system that's off-grid. >> >> It looks like it's on and off, trying to make power but seems to think there >> is a problem on the AC side. Do you have any advice as to what may be going >> on? Anything that I can do that may not require replacement? Very tough >> communicating to SMA while on site and of course, this always happens on >> Friday night. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Mac Lewis >> >> "Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates >> > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Imax disturbance Error
Mac, SMA tech support told me this usually indicates a failing transformer so as Marco suggests, the patient does not have long to live. I've seen a couple of these at 10+ years of service on the inverter. Was kind of regards Carl Adams SunRock Solar On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 12:50 PM Mac Lewis wrote: > Hello Wrenches, > > I've got a customer that has an issue with their ~10 yr old SB8000US > connected to a quad stack of Sunny Island system that's off-grid. > > It looks like it's on and off, trying to make power but seems to think > there is a problem on the AC side. Do you have any advice as to what may > be going on? Anything that I can do that may not require replacement? > Very tough communicating to SMA while on site and of course, this always > happens on Friday night. > > Thanks! > > -- > > > > Mac Lewis > > *"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates* > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] PAE series surge capacity/ power factor ?
I would look at connections first, lug that is not as tight as it ne we do to be, a breaker failing, outlets that are either push in wires or have loose connections. Eliminate what you can before looking at the inverters On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 11:36 AM Jeremy Rodriguez wrote: > > > Hello > we have a lot of PAE series magnum inverters out there. > One client lately has been experiencing voltage drop and failure of PCBs > in two of his household appliances. I know it’s common to have some > dimming of the lights when a well pump or other large load kicks on, but > has anyone ran across a solution to alleviate the problem or boost up the > voltage / condition it, in any way ? > I’m not sure if this just happens with low battery voltage, or always > The inverter is located ~ 300 ft from the main electrical panel with > #2/2/2/4 URD feeders to an outdoor disco, then 8 AWG copper to the mains > panel. > 4448 PAE with one string of 6CS21P Batteries. > > > Jeremy Rodriguez > Solar Installation / Design Expert > All Solar, Inc. > 1453 M St > Penrose Colorado > > > > Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand! > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Imax disturbance Error
AC coupled off grid? Sounds like a good time to go DC coupled. Ray Walters Remote Solar 303 505-8760 On 1/9/22 3:31 PM, Carl Adams wrote: Mac, SMA tech support told me this usually indicates a failing transformer so as Marco suggests, the patient does not have long to live. I've seen a couple of these at 10+ years of service on the inverter. Was kind of regards Carl Adams SunRock Solar On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 12:50 PM Mac Lewis wrote: Hello Wrenches, I've got a customer that has an issue with their ~10 yr old SB8000US connected to a quad stack of Sunny Island system that's off-grid. It looks like it's on and off, trying to make power but seems to think there is a problem on the AC side. Do you have any advice as to what may be going on? Anything that I can do that may not require replacement? Very tough communicating to SMA while on site and of course, this always happens on Friday night. Thanks! -- Mac Lewis * "Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates * ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here:http://re-wrenches.org List Address:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] PAE series surge capacity/ power factor ?
Long runs of URD direct buried? Just a nick into the metal can corrode the cable all the way through over time. We use conduit for almost everything anymore. The savings with URD doesn't pan out, when you have to abandon the line after 10 years. Ray Walters Remote Solar 303 505-8760 On 1/9/22 5:10 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote: I would look at connections first, lug that is not as tight as it ne we do to be, a breaker failing, outlets that are either push in wires or have loose connections. Eliminate what you can before looking at the inverters On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 11:36 AM Jeremy Rodriguez wrote: Hello we have a lot of PAE series magnum inverters out there. One client lately has been experiencing voltage drop and failure of PCBs in two of his household appliances. I know it’s common to have some dimming of the lights when a well pump or other large load kicks on, but has anyone ran across a solution to alleviate the problem or boost up the voltage / condition it, in any way ? I’m not sure if this just happens with low battery voltage, or always The inverter is located ~ 300 ft from the main electrical panel with #2/2/2/4 URD feeders to an outdoor disco, then 8 AWG copper to the mains panel. 4448 PAE with one string of 6CS21P Batteries. Jeremy Rodriguez Solar Installation / Design Expert All Solar, Inc. 1453 M St Penrose Colorado Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand! ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here:http://re-wrenches.org List Address:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
