[RBW] New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts
If I was to get carried away, I'd probably start to gush about how I never thought I'd be introducing myself as a new owner on the RBW Owners Bunch. But I'll try not to do that. I was doing quite a bit of road riding between '95 and '02, including some centuries and metrics. Quite a bit for me anyway, considering working full time, raising a family and being a generally out-of-shape boomer. For various reasons which I won't bore you with, I took a break from riding for several years, until last Fall. I'm still not sure I'll be able to recover even a part of my conditioning, but I was (and am) determined to try. Along with starting to ride again, I got into the bicycle culture by reading various forums, blogs and makers websites, including RBW's. I had been aware of Grant and his company, philosophy and bikes for some time. I never considered that I might have a Rivendell for at least a couple of reasons: cost and the fact that I was enamored of titanium and light bikes. My last (other) bike is a Performance titanium that I eventually had custom painted. It's very nice, and part of me thinks I'm crazy for retiring it. However. I REALLY fell for Rivs, and the Sam Hillborne in particular. The more I read, the more I wanted one. I never got to ride one, and saw only a single bike built up, and very briefly. But I was sure that that design would be a better bike for me. I'm short, and the 650b wheels, low BB and Riv geometry would, I was sure make for a more comfortable and confidence-inspiring ride. I have never been a confident bike- handler. At the time I finally discussed this with my wife, the Sam frames in my size were $1250. Bless her, she said go ahead if it was what I wanted. I wasn't ready then (last Fall), or even early this year, when the Sam price increased to $1400. I was determined to get some Spring riding in on my Ti bike and make sure that I was committed enough to deserve this new bike. I would need the frame/fork, wheels, and not too much else as I could transfer most parts from my Ti bike. Of course I also watched eBay. I almost bid on a Ram, but I was still not ready, so I didn't. In February (I think) I saw a Bleriot come up, in my size (51). I had to do some research on the Bleriot as I was not familiar with it, and I found that it was similar to the current Sams and had 650b wheels. The bids at the time were low, and I decided to go for it. Also, I had gotten a bonus at work which would finance the whole thing. By the time bidding was over, deep pockets (and cunning bidding on my part ; ) won the day and ended up winning the Bleriot. We won't dwell on the fact that I paid more than they originally sold for. But it was considerably less than $1400. The frame was advertised as nearly new, nearly flawless, with fewer than 10 miles on it. that seems to be the case. I can find one area that has been touched up very well, and it doesn't bother me a bit. It's a beautiful frame. I have built it up as a "roadish country bike": Shimano 8 speed STI shifters and derailleurs; Sugino Alpina compact double crank; Brooks B17 Honey saddle, Velo Orange Diagonale/105 650b wheels; Nifty Swifty tires; Tektro 556 sidepull brakes; Performance drop bars (the ones I am used to and that I like). >From my very short mileage on it so far, I love the ride. It seems to do what I hoped the Sam would do as far as feel and confidence. I need better weather to get out and assess both my current state of health, and the bikes characteristics. I have to be honest and say that my only quibbles with bike concern the graphics. They seem a bit over the top and camp to me. I could easily do without Louis and his mustache on the seat tube. But I know that he has his fans here. I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts. It wasn't until I registered the bike with my county (yes, I'm paranoid) that I realized that to most people looking at it, it's a "Bleriot" period. You have to look very hard to see any mention of Rivendell. I now realize that most Rivs are that way unless they are customs. I would be very happy if the downtube said, "Rivendell" but that is not meant to be. Anyway, that is very trivial. I like the look of the frame a lot, and appreciate that it has a cream head tube, a feature that was eliminated from the Sams.Hope this is not too long and that I have not ruffled too many feathers. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts
Thanks for the welcome, everyone. Pix will be forthcoming, but I won't make any promises as to when. Will try to do it next weekend. I'm glad to hear that at least some of you like the Louis graphic, I guess he'll stay ; ). For now, the Ti frame is retired, and I don't think I could bear to sell it. I'll keep it in case I want a go-fast bike again, or perhaps for my daughter, who rides quite a bit. I've also been debating and messing with ideas for carrying tools. I like the tool roll concept, and in fact had already bought some fabric to experiment with, when Riv's roll was announced. Well, since they are basically gone anyway, I probably won't be getting one. When I made my mock-up, I wasn't at all happy with way it looked, so I have ended up ordering one of the several small bags I've found online: The Arundel Tubi bag. It seems to be the size that I need and it isn't a standard wedge. I hope to get it in time to put into the pix. BTW, I plan to carry a spare tube but that may be overkill considering the wider tires and thicker tubes, compared to the road stuff that I'm used to. Do most of you carry a spare tube or not? Everyone enjoy Spring riding! Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS-Sam Hillborne 56cm
Sorry that you have to sell your Sam. Looks like a great bike, good luck with the sale. Hopefully you'll get another or better one in the future. Steve On Apr 18, 9:21 am, Rick wrote: > Unfortunately due to medical reasons with a family member I am having > to sell my almost brand new Sam Hillborne. Here is the Ebay link if > anyone is interested. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-56cm-/120713242891?pt=Roa... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 'Nuther new Rivbike owner intro.
Welcome Manny! From the other new Riv owner with the Ti road bike! I'm not retired yet, but I'm a little over a year away from that. Regarding painting the fork, I'm betting that it will be expensive to do it through an auto paint shop, although it may still be your best bet. A couple of thoughts: Check out and contact Airglow painting in Georgia. He painted my Ti frame and did a great job. He should be able to match the color, but I don't know what he will charge. I think he's reasonable for the high quality of work that he does. He certainly doesn't charge Joe Bell prices! In the alternative, you could go for a close match to the cream (it wouldn't matter as much if wasn't exact). that might give your bike a distinctive look. If you are handy, you could even try to do that yourself with automotive spray touch-up paint. If you weren't happy with the results, consider it a temporary measure. I personally wouldn't do any chrome on the fork, as I doubt that there's any on the frame, right? I'll also be the first to ask you to post pics; frame, bare fork and all. Enjoy your new bike! Steve On Apr 18, 8:02 pm, Manny wrote: > Hello All, > > My name is Manny, lurked here awhile, joined this Google group, now > officially an RBW owner. Sorry, long-ish post cause I'm X-cited! > > The good news. Thanks to an earlier post by a member searching for a > Rambouillet (in a much larger size than mine) and the reply/suggestion > from another member, I found a NOS blue w/cream highlights - > Rambouillet 54 cm frame set. Came in the brown truck last Friday, > 16AP2011. WOW, it's Rivendelicious! > > The bad news? The fork is unpainted, long story. So, need to see if I > can have it painted to match, long shot, maybe. The guys at Riv. > suggest I have a local automotive painter tackle the challenge. I do > know a Father & Son that have a custom Hotrod paint shop, they're very > good; will have to see what they think our chances of a paint match > are. OR, what do you all think, chrome the fork? Paint over chrome and > leave the crown and tips in chrome? Is this a dilema or an > opportunity? My personal choice would be to have it as close to > original as possible. > > Co-incidentally, I also have a fast-ish - though I'm not -Ti road > bike, like another recent new member's post. I'm not planning to > retire mine, athough I'm retired. That gives me lots of time to ride > though mine are not as interesting as some of the rides you share with > us all. > > Promise to post photos once all this gets sorted out and I build up > the bike. > > Cheers, > Manny in Mesa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts
Wow, Thanks for all of the kind responses and good info. I guess I'll have to rethink my ideas about weight and tools! Seriously, I will carry enough to change or patch the tube and do many other repairs (adjustments). Right now my rides are so ridiculously close to home that it won't matter much. Right now I have rather bulky CO2 inflator that uses the smaller cartridges, and I carry two cartridges. Should I look to get one that uses the larger carts; and if so, do you have any recommendations on which one? Or put another way, would I need two of the smaller carts to adequately fill a Nifty Swifty? (33 mm). I appreciate the history behind naming the bike. That's the kind of info that I was hoping to get here. I haven't been a Reader reader for long, so I'd have to do quite a bit of combing through them find out this kind of stuff. Not to mention buying the CD. But these comments make me look a bit more kindly on the graphics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Some NOS, Some not, Suntour and Shimano parts, and other Rivish yard sale stuff.
I can't see the pictures, even after signing in to Google. Can you describe the Steve Jackson saddle bag and give an approx price? Or link to a picure? Thanks, Steve On Apr 19, 4:39 pm, CCX wrote: > Hello Rivsters, > > I am cleaning out some cool parts I have had almost forever in modern > terms. > > If you are interested in something let me know how much you think is > fair. We'll sort out shipping together OK. If the price seems crazy, > or if you want something let me know. I have a bunch of the same > stuff that is used too, so just ask if you see something interesting. > If you have any questions please ask. > > chiversj at gmail.com > > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/webUpload?uname=chiversj&aid=55973847... > > 172.5 Specialized Triple Cold Forged Crank (no rings) These are the > ST-1 and the are in good shape. > 172.5 Ritchey Triple Cold Forged Cranks (no photo) > 170 Ritchey Triple Cold Forged Cranks (no Photo) > 175 Sugino Triple Mighty Crank (no Photo) > 175 Suntour Triple XCP cold forged crank (no Photo) > > 170 NOS Suntour Superbe Pro Crank 52/42 almost prefect, but one tiny > ding in the arm, super hard rings made in Japan. $85.00 > > NOS Camp Record Pedal dust covers $30.00 > > Brooks Pro Pre softened- Nicely taken care of $ 50.00 > Brooks B-17 George Flegg (large rivit) $35.00 (no photo) > > Seldom used Black Carradice (Nelson) $ 50.00 > > NOS Steve Jackson Leather Saddle bag > > NOS Dura Ace non aero brake levers. $35.00 > > NOS Suntour XC Comp Pedals $50.00 > > NOS BOB water bottle with new fancy Binda straps > > BOB or Bstone coin purse > > A box of incomplete MAFAC canti brake parts- $15.00 > > NOS Mavic Front Der > > NOS Mavic BB (for triple OEM on the Bridgestone MB-0) > > NOS but shop worn Superbe Pro Brake Levers, hoods are not perfect > 25.00 > > NOS (but shop worn Superbe Pro Brake set, cold forged calipers and > original levers, hoods are not perfect) $75.00 > > Never installed , Superbe Pro Headset- 1 inch english $20.00 > > NOS Salsa Moto stem- 28.00 > > Dura Ace Brake levers (non aero) not installed, but not perfect $30.00 > > NOS Campy Bar end shifters friction only $ 25.00 rare blue rubber > lever covers > > NOS Shimano Bar end shifters 7 speed 35.00 > > 2 NOS XT Front der $ 38.00 each > > NOS Suntour XC Pro 8 speed thumb shifters $90.00 > > NOS Suntour XC Pro Rear Der short cage $ 70.00 > > NOS Original Suntour XC Pro friction Thumb shifters > > 2 new, Superbe Pro Front der- one is missing the band, $55.00 for the > pair of them > > 3 Suntour XC Pro Front Der, low normal, one used, two new > > ST-1 Crank Photo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts
I thought I posted another response this morning, but it never got in. I'm still getting used to this site. That includes getting used to people being able to change the title. But I'm kind of glad it got changed back. Thanks again for all the helpful responses and info on pumps, I will have check some of those out. And I guess I'll have to check out flikr or whatever, and post pix soon. Cheers, Steve On Apr 20, 12:55 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > on 4/19/11 5:15 AM, islaysteve at alkire...@verizon.net wrote: > > > Right now I have rather bulky CO2 inflator > > that uses the smaller cartridges, and I carry two cartridges. Should > > I look to get one that uses the larger carts; and if so, do you have > > any recommendations on which one? Or put another way, would I need > > two of the smaller carts to adequately fill a Nifty Swifty? (33 mm). > > I think you are answering your own question here. Honestly, there's no > reason to use a CO2 setup unless you are trying to literally shave seconds > on refilling. It's a one-shot deal, and I've seen enough MTB XC racers > walking their uselessly flat-tired rigs home from the halfway point, cursing > their improperly seated "fast-fill" devices. You have no margin for error. > > Once you have or see that happen, you always carry a pump for backup, decide > to stop using them altogether, or have to rely upon the kindness of > strangers to fill up your tube. In any event you end up back with a pump. > > If you like keeping things compact, I've been using a Crank Brothers larger > barrelled mini pump which has held up well for at least 6 years. It fits > easily into a Keven's Bag or L'il Loafer front bag. > > - Jim > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Could you take a moment to vote for me? > > I am entered in a audiobook contest which is initially determined by public > voting - if you could go here - > > http://tinyurl.com/vote-jimedgar > > register on the Bookperk site and vote for my read > -http://tinyurl.com/vote-jimedgar- I'd really appreciate it. You can vote > one time each day until early May. Vote early, vote often! > > Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: tool roll packaging
I thought it was cool that when I got brakes from Rivendell, they came wrapped in a Japanese newspaper. Of course it would have been slightly cooler if it was an Elvish newspaper. On Apr 21, 4:37 pm, William wrote: > Order packers at > Rivendell Bicycle Works > do amuse themselves > > On Apr 21, 1:25 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > Someone at riv must have had fun doing this one: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/5641624440 > > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Odometer only? (Jones counter)
I've contemplated this myself, but have not done anything about it yet. I assume that if you're mounting it on the rear triangle, you want to put the display unit in a seat bag. Seems like that would work, as long as the magnet can be mounted close enough to the spokes to pick up the signal as on a fork=mounted unit. You could also look into wireless computers and still hide the display unit in a bag on the bike. For now, I'm going to keep my own log for rides. It's not too hard for me to figure out the mileage after the fact. Just thought of something: I"m sure that a regular GPS unit will record mileage over a given route, time, etc. I wonder if iPhones and other devices with GPS can be set up to do the same. Just carry the iPhone in the bag. I realize that this goes in the opposite direction of your wish to simplify! Steve On Apr 22, 1:50 am, Rex Kerr wrote: > Does anybody know of a source for a simple bicycle odometer that doesn't > include speed? Something like an old Jones counter would be great > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones_Counter > > I like knowing how far I've ridden to keep track of yearly mileage, total > mileage on the particular bike, maintenance, and sometimes navigation, but I > hate having the speed always displayed in my face -- I'd rather NOT know how > fast I'm going (or not going), and choose not to have speedometers on most > of my bikes (I have on on my touring bike for the clock & odometer for > navigation). > > If not a manual odometer... any suggestions for a small and simple bike > computer that could be mounted on the rear triangle, yet be inconspicuous? > > Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: "budget" 650b wheels?
I assume you've seen the offerings from Velo Orange and Rivendell for 650b wheelsets. Three stock choices from those two sources plus custom options. I know you asked about budget. VO sells their 650b rims, if you want to build your own. I have the VO Diagonale/105 wheelset on my Bleriot and it seems pretty nice. I admit that I haven't ridden much on them yet. The thing about buying wheelsets online is the extra shipping charges. If you're on either coast, you could save some with a personal visit to VO (east) or RBW (west). I'm happy to live within easy driving distance of VO. Steve On Apr 22, 10:08 am, pruckelshaus wrote: > I'm building a 650b frame for my wife to use as a commuter; the last > frame I built was a similar frame for myself. I found a set of new > 650b wheels on eBay a while ago for a crazy price ($80 BIN...I > couldn't buy the parts and build them myself for that little) built up > from Weinmann Zac 19 rims, DT spokes (no-name nipples, which I > replaced with DT's), and Deore freehub. I'd love to find a similar > set of wheels for my wife's pending build, but my search has turned up > empty. Does anyone know a source for a budget 650b wheelset that will > take a 9/10 speed Shimano cassette? > > Thanks, > > Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Project bike will take Roly Poly tires.
Pretty bike! It's similar in color to my Bleriot. Enjoy it. On Apr 23, 3:35 pm, James Warren wrote: > William, > That is great! > > > > -Original Message- > >From: William > >Sent: Apr 23, 2011 10:56 AM > >To: RBW Owners Bunch > >Subject: [RBW] Re: Project bike will take Roly Poly tires. > > >And the build is complete. The clincher wheelset isn't ready yet, but > >I did one shake-down ride on the tubulars, and was satisfied enough > >with the fit to wrap twine and shellac the bars. It's ready to ride! > >I'm amazed how un-low this bike was geared to start with. 42x21 was > >the lowest gear. I have it all the way down to a 34x24 granny and > >it's still barely rideable in the East Bay Hills. > > >Photos on my flickr > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5646425361/in/photostream/ > > >On Apr 19, 1:01 pm, William wrote: > >> I'm well on my way to converting a 1984 Trek 770 into a retro-modern > >> all road bike. Two shortcomings of my current road bike (a Davidson > >> Signature) were that it doesn't take a tire wider than 700x25, and > >> that it fits like a racing bike. I had it custom built in my youth, > >> and so now to get the bars up I had to use a Technomic Deluxe which is > >> excellent but I think it looks a little less than ideal to have a ton > >> of seatpost and a ton of stem showing. It makes the frame look too > >> small. > > >> Anyway, this Trek is a couple cm taller than my Davidson, so I hope to > >> get a similar fit with a regular proportioned stem. I finished > >> stripping the bike down, and I'll start selling off a lot of the Campy > >> Super Record parts through the normal channels. I got my compact > >> double crankset, and I've secured a few freewheels for various gearing > >> options. The recent highlight is that I've confirmed that a > >> 700x27RolyPolywill fit (no fender). I'm thrilled about that, and it was > >> something that I wasn't sure would work out. If the bike turns out as > >> well as I hope, I might get it powdercoated. I bought some > >> Resurrectio stickers from Riv on that chance. > > >> Riv content: Higher bars, fearlessly riding a 30 year old lugged > >> steel MUSA frameset,RolyPolytires bought from Riv, not being retro > >> for retros sake. > > >> Pics on my flickr: > > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626511175478/ > > >-- > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >"RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >For more options, visit this group > >athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bleriot Photos Posted
As promised, the photos of my newly-built Bleriot are here: https://picasaweb.google.com/109191668701158452616/Bleriot2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCMuAptL6_fyIGg# I hope it works. Since I had to sign up for Google to join this group, it only made sense to use Google's photo program. It does seem very easy to use. Details of the build are in my initial post, but you can see most of it in the photos. Today has turned out to be a delightful Spring day. Of course I got a ride in, did some other useful things, and took shots of the new baby. Let me know if you have any problem seeing them. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: dureme 50's on the Hillborne
Good looking bike, you're lucky to have one of the green Sams (not that the orange is so bad!). As someone who's new to fatter tires and lower pressures, the combination of 50s and 38psi seems strange to me. Do you notice much of a change in rolling resistance between those and your last tires? It's an interesting new "world" to me. Steve On Apr 27, 12:35 am, jandrews_nyc wrote: > Like I mentioned in a previous post, I ordered some Dureme 50's from > Riv for my green Hillborne. As some of you know, the earlier green > Hillbornes had slightly less clearance at the chain stays near the > kickstand plate. So..naturally I was worried that the 50's would be > too big. I was lucky. They fit well. I had to take the Berthoud > fenders off and replaced my Pasela 37's with the Duremes. In fact, I > think I could probably still get fenders on the bike. I would > probably have to cut the end of the fender down where it meets the > chain stay bridge tap. > I rode about 20 miles today in New York City with these new tires. I > had them inflated to about 38psi. They weren't too cushy but still > absorbed all the bumps and pot holes well. I rode from North Brooklyn > into Queens over the Pulaski Bridge, then along the East River up to > the 59th Street Bridge which dumped me out in Manhattan on the east > side. Then rode west straight to Central Park to ride the loop a few > times..then back to Brooklyn. Maybe closer to 25 miles. > Anyway, here's a look at the bike with the clearances illustrated > pretty well. > > http://gallery.me.com/jasonaschwartz#100117 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Reader Index
Nice! I hope you are able to complete the rest of the issues. On May 2, 2:22 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > I was reading the knothole today and Grant was talking about an index > to the Rivendell Readers. I've got most of the readers on pdf as a > solstice present a couple of years back. > > So I was noodling around a bit and here's what I did: > > 1. split all of the pdfs out into per-page output > 2. converted all the per-page pdfs to text files. > 3. wrote a python script to do some relatively naive word indexing > 4. enhanced the naivete a bit to avoid really common words and pretty > much anything that appears more than 500 times. > 5. dumped all of this to a series of text files. > > Limits of its use: > a. it's word-separated not 'phrase' so 'sam' is separate from 'hillborne' > b. the first 10-20 RR on pdf appear to be ocr'd in. So the text is > occasionally garbled which results in 'odd' things. > c. a lot of 'grantisms' in use - so when he says 'pillar and means > 'hunqapillar' well - that's under 'p' not under 'h' > d. if you look for 'rivendell' or 'bike' you're not going to find it > b/c, well, that seemed silly to include for fairly obvious reasons, I > hope. :) > > If anyone has 36-40 in a pdf I can run this across them too. > > It's not a proper index, of course, but it is a heck of a start for > anyone who wants to refine it down. > > Neat facts: > the first time the word 'atlantis' appears ( RR18 - pg 0011). > > romulus appears 25 times in total. > > that something like 'rambouillet' appears in a variety of interesting > spellings through out. > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Reader?
Notwithstanding the fact that members no longer receive the Reader for free, when I joined last year I got a Reader, unexpected, the mail. That was good marketing. I am eagerly awaiting the availability of the next Reader, which I will order as a paper copy. Not the least of the benefits: my wife got interested in the Reader and enjoys it. Steve On May 2, 5:51 pm, BrianMcG wrote: > You have to order them and pay individually, like you are buying an > innertube. They cost $5.00. Or you can download them for free off of > their website and print them yourself. > > Being a member no longer provides you with a reader. > > On May 2, 4:44 pm, Bob wrote: > > > > > Naive question, I am sure. Apologies in advance. > > > How is the Rivendell Reader distributed these days? I haven't seen a > > copy in years (Rivendell member since 2006 or so). > > > Cheers, > > Bob > > > Robert Linthicum > > North Yorkshire, England, UKwww.robertlinthicum.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Break-in for Berthoud saddles?
Sorry if this doesn't add much, but at 200K, my butt would be sore with any saddle! Maybe it's just fine and your expectations are too high? Or do you have experience with other saddles that are comfy over that distance?? On May 1, 8:42 pm, Christian wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've had a Berthoud saddle since the fall. I've ridden several > thousand miles on it (maybe more; I don't keep very good track), it > including three 200k rides. All to say: I figure I'm well beyond the > break-in period. However, the saddle shows no discernible signs of > breaking-in and for a 200k it's pushing the limits of comfort--that > is, my butt kinda hurts by the end of the ride. > > I'm writing simply to see what kinds of experiences others have had. > How long did it take to break in? Is it comfortable for long > distances? Etc. > > It might simply be time for another saddle, but the Berthoud is so > nice and well made that I've wanted to really give it a try and > thought I might learn some break-in tricks before I post it for > sale. > > Thanks > > Christian > > PS: Apologies for cross-posting -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant's "Velosophy"...
Boy, Amazon doesn't give him much love, do they? No summary, no image, nothin'. I probably don't know the whole story. Did GP post anything about it on the site? On May 3, 7:19 pm, William wrote: > I'd read it. Heck, I'd probably even buy it and read it and give it > to somebubba else to read. > > On May 3, 2:24 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > > > Amazon just confirmed that they have a confirmed shipping date for Grant > > Petersen "Velosophy". > > > Estimated arrival date: June 03 2011 - July 13 2011. I placed the order in > > January when I accidentally discovered it. > > > René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question
When I recently built up my Bleriot (135mm) I used Velo Orange wheels (130mm). I asked the mechanic at VO about the spacing and he said that for a 5mm difference, I could just install the wheel and clamp it down with the skewers. I was able to do this with no problem at all. It shifts fine, so I don't think the chainline is out of whack. Of course, YMMV. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question
OK, I understand what you're saying. BTW, I'm index shifting (heresy!) and I seem to have it dialed in and shifting fine. I will consider spacers. Thanks for the info. Steve On May 5, 3:28 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > on 5/4/11 4:18 AM, islaysteve at alkire...@verizon.net wrote: > > > When I recently built up my Bleriot (135mm) I used Velo Orange wheels > > (130mm). I asked the mechanic at VO about the spacing and he said > > that for a 5mm difference, I could just install the wheel and clamp it > > down with the skewers. I was able to do this with no problem at all. > > It shifts fine, so I don't think the chainline is out of whack. Of > > course, YMMV. Steve > > The only thing to be aware of is that the face of the hub will force an > alignment of the dropouts. The issue is mainly the change of stresses on > the connection of the rear dropouts to the stays at the brazing. > > There's plenty of elasticity in the steel so that the stays will clamp down > and/or spread back out (and if you've ever seen a steel frame being > respaced, it's pretty amazing how far you have to bend it to change things.) > > If you _had_ to do it for a single trip or instance, I wouldn't worry about > it particularly (with a steel frame of course). But, if you were going to > on a regularly basis, it's probably not a bad idea to put a couple spacers > in there. It's bone simple stuff. I wouldn't even worry about changing the > axle. > > As far as the chainline - it's a 2 mm shift at most. I didn't worry about > that at all. Just checked the limit screws and enjoyed the benefits of > analog shifting. > > - J > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > "You must be the change you want to see in the world." > Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
My Bleriot: About $300/ride so far, but I'm workin' it down! I must do the math on my former bikes, sounds like a fun exercise. Steve On May 8, 8:46 am, Earl Grey wrote: > Good stuff as always. Too bad about the math error in the price per > ride piece. I almost don't want to point it out since it seems to have > gone unnoticed so far. The difference in price per ride, with Grant's > conservative numbers, is only a little more than one order of > magnitude, not two: Compared to the carbon bikes $10/ride, the > expensive steel bike is > > 250 rides per year * 20 years = 5000 rides > > 5000 rides / $4000 = $0.80 per ride, NOT $0.09 > > On the other hand, I doubt that most carbon race bikes outside of the > Southwest and California get ridden 50 weeks out of the year, which > would further increase the cost per ride. > > My $2000 Sam Hillborne gets ridden 8-12 times a week (if you count > each commute leg separately, plus one or two fun rides plus errands) > so for the past year and a half that I have owned it, I am already > down to about $2.67 a ride (10 rides x 50 weeks x 1.5 years), and > dropping. > > Cheers, > > Gernot > > On May 7, 1:24 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > Nice buncha articles, tho' Grant's predilections come out strong. > > (Yay for fast, skinny tires! Yay for lower bars! Yay for race-type > > bikes with fenders, racks, bags, dynolights -- esp if you can "match" > > yer bags. Any YAY for good beer, home-made bread, lots of pasta and > > sugar in my coffee!) > > > Anyway: I was particularly pleased with the interview with BS who > > comes across as less of an asshol* than you just might presume from > > his, admittedly very funny, blogs, and who also comes across as, > > undeniable, intelligent and, for our dismally uncultured age, > > literate. Kudos to R, RR and GP for this interview. > > > Patrick "my bars range from 2" below to 3" above saddle, my tires from > > 22 mm to 65 mm" Moore > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW > > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > > Blazing high above your head; > > But in you is the Presence that will be > > When all the stars are dead. > > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Color-Coordination Assistance: Which color Ortlieb panniers for the Romulus?
Grey if you're an introvert, yellow or orange if you're an extrovert. Listen to me, I was a psych major. On May 11, 4:56 pm, Curtis Schmitt wrote: > Lynne, that's very helpful, the grey definitely looks sharp. Much to think > about. Thanks to you and all of those who actually helped me in my > decision-making with this thread. > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Lynne Fitz wrote: > > I've got a Bleriot (minty blue), and went for the silver-gray > > Ortliebs. > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/5227786161/ > > > On May 11, 10:41 am, Curtis Schmitt wrote: > > > I'm leaning towards the orange or the yellow, what's your vote? Anyone > > > have a Rom with Ortliebs? > > > > My Romulus, palping the standard blue colourway: > >https://picasaweb.google.com/curtisrschmitt/RivendellRomulus#55454758... > > > > Pannier color options: > >http://s.wiggle.co.uk/images/ortlieb-front-roller-cl-pnr-10-zoom.jpg > > > > Thanks, > > > Curtis > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Curtis R Schmitt > 646.481.2625 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fast 650B Tire Options
Of course there are the Nifty Swiftys and Fasty Maxis, which are slightly cheaper than Pari Motos. I'm running Niftys on my Bleriot and am pleased so far (coming from "regular" road bike), but I can't give you a good review as I have so few miles on them (and I'm still out of shape). I'd compare max pressures for the tires you're considering, IMO. The higher the max pressure, the more room you have to adjust and experiment.I'm running the Niftys at the max. pressure of 75 psi and they feel plenty comfy to me. I can also ride over dirt with gravel topping without any noticeable problem, so I'm pretty happy. I saw a pair of one of these tires on eBay yesterday for a good price, so check. Steve On May 11, 5:54 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > I am looking to make my Bleriot my main road bike so I want to trade > out the Col de Vie's for something quicker. I know that the Pari- > Motos are well respected but I wanted to see if there was a good > option that is slightly more affordable. If they are the best I will > cough up the dough but want to see what others said. > > Also if someone has a set of Pari's used they want to sell I would be > open for that. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fast 650B Tire Options
Well, different strokes, I guess. My Bleriot, on the whole, feels MUCH nicer than my former pure road bike with 23's at 100+ psi. This was one of my goals, and it's why I'm loving this bike so much. I decided to go with the max pressure initially because I was concerned about rolling resistance/increase in effort while I am working to regain some level of fitness. That gain is happening. Meanwhile, the bike feels smooth and just plain great, so I see no need to change anything right now. Crossing between two (of the many) bicycle cultures is interesting and I'm learning that I can and will take what I want of each (i.e. STI levers on my Riv). There's an interesting post on Lovely Bicycle! that sort of illustrates this topic (but don't go there now, you won't see that post because of a problem with Blogger). It's about the author's first training ride (on a Riv) with some hardcore racers. Cheers, Steve On May 13, 9:55 am, Patrick in VT wrote: > On May 11, 6:13 pm, islaysteve wrote: > > > I'm running the Niftys at the max. > > pressure of 75 psi and they feel plenty comfy to me. > > yowsa! niftys at 75psi feel like my 23mm 700c road tires at 100psi. > and that's not an exaggeration. running wider tires at max pressure > defeats the purpose, in my opinion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Riv Experience
Zack, great write-up and congratulations on your new Sam! The colors you chose sound nice, will look forward to pix. When I was considering a Sam, I also wanted a cream head tube, no question. But I got a Bleriot instead, and so I got my cream head tube. Have fun anticipating, and of course riding your new Riv. Steve On May 13, 10:05 am, Zack wrote: > Yep, I love the orange too - just thought the navy would be a nice > touch. It is the same color as the Bombadils used to be. > > On May 13, 9:59 am, Michael_S wrote: > > > > > Pretty awesome story Zack. I'm sure you won't be dissapointed with > > your Sam. Of course that orange paint job is beautiful but the Navy > > sounds like it will make it one of a kind. > > > ~mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fast 650B Tire Options
Hey, thanks for all the good info, guys. For next time (and it will be a while), I'll look into the Grand Bois Lierres and others recommended. I'd also be interested to see the BQ tire test results referred to by Steve Palincsar. Cheers, Steve On May 13, 3:52 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > On May 13, 1:44 pm, islaysteve wrote: > > > Well, different strokes, I guess. My Bleriot, on the whole, feels > > MUCH nicer than my former pure road bike with 23's at 100+ psi. This > > was one of my goals, and it's why I'm loving this bike so much. I > > decided to go with the max pressure initially because I was concerned > > about rolling resistance/increase in effort while I am working to > > regain some level of fitness. > > not all tires are created equal. a high quality narrow tire with a > supple casing can be comfortable - more comfortable, in fact, than a > wider tire with a beefed up, puncture resistant casing (like the > nifty). > > in any event, tires, in any size, need not be inflated to max pressure > to minimize/optimize rolling resistance. there's certainly a middle > ground between max psi and "underinflated." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] QB Spotted in Kensington
This afternoon, Sunday, Beach and Knowles. A nice green Quickbeam with mustache bars. Anyone here? (I was in my car, not on the bike; had done my ride a little earlier). I hope this post isn't inappropriate, but this is the first Riv that I can remember seeing here. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: First S24O to Sam P. Taylor with photos.
Very nice, Naz. Your photos make me envious and homesick for California. Is that a VO Polyvalent? Steve On May 16, 2:23 pm, Naz Hamid wrote: > Hi, > > Thought I'd make a proper post as I'm a long-time lurker and reply-er > but never first time poster. > > A few friends and I have all recently reached that point in our > cycling lives where we've sold or barely ride our track bikes, where > the road bikes see less and less use and our racings days are long > gone and the interest is in purely remembering how much fun the first > time we rode bicycles was like. We've all collectively encouraged each > other to build up Riv-ish bikes (though, aside from my wife, none of > us have a Riv — a Bob Jackson, an old Gitane and a Velo Orange) and > being in the Bay Area finally decided we'd take these lovely bikes and > go bike camping for the first time. > > I won't bore you with a soliloquy on how much of a wonderful weekend > it was, with moments of pure child-like joy and wonderment (at least > in my mind) and the feeling of the freedom that comes with riding a > bike. > > Thus, photos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/absenter/sets/72157626701948778/ > > Cheers! > Naz. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Herse in just-about final form
Beautiful bike, Patrick. Very tastefully executed! On May 18, 9:08 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/HerseComplete051811?authkey=Gv... > > Rivendell-esque if not Rivendellian. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > Blazing high above your head; > But in you is the Presence that will be > When all the stars are dead. > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: "Top 10 bike design innovations of 2011"
The bike shelf is nice. That would have looked good in my dining room when I kept my other bike there. But shouldn't the Pit-In have a rear- wheel roller set attached to a generator so the dude could charge his laptop while sippin'? On May 18, 1:30 pm, Kevin Lippert wrote: > Thought people might enjoy this collection of bike- and accessory-related > design ideas collected at this design > website:http://www.architizer.com/en_us/blog/dyn/20572/the-ten-best-bike-rela... > > And some might even be useful, like the leather six-pack carrier? Now you'll > be glad your Rivendell has a strong top tube! > > Enjoy, > Kevin Lippert > NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rust on Chain Stay
The previous owner of my Bleriot taped (cloth tape, of course), twined and shellacked the chainstay. It looks so good that I left it on. Not sure, however, that you could extend the tape/twine forward enough to cover your rusty area. But it's a thought. On May 25, 5:01 pm, erik jensen wrote: > you could never touch that *surface* rust and still wouldn't have issue for > at least 15 years, if at all. > > that said, I just use simple rustoleum matte black paint every so often to > cover up any bare metal and then just cloth tape over the whole chainstay. > the latter is a great way of preventing any abuses and slap from adding up > too quickly. > > it also looks like a splint, i've been told. > > erik > > > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 AM, William wrote: > > If you just wanted to do the bare minimum to make yourself feel better > > about the rust on your tour, and don't want to get into a crankpuller, > > then just do something to keep air and moisture off the metal. You > > should be able to wrap the chainstay with tape (electrical tape, cloth > > handlebar tape) without taking the crank arm off. Rust stops in the > > absence of oxygen. Cover it up and you'll slow that way down. Then > > deal with it properly when you get back. > > > That said, you should know how to pull a crank arm. It doesn't happen > > terribly often but there are roadside repairs that require a crank > > puller. I'd recommend one like this: > > >http://www.parktool.com/product/universal-crank-puller-for-square-tap... > > > That you can bring with you in your kit. You just need to carry a 4" > > crescent wrench as well, which I always bring touring also. > > > On May 24, 6:48 pm, Joe S wrote: > > > I've had my Atlantis about 10 months and love it. I ride it nearly > > > every day, usually on my 30 mile round-trip commute to and from work. > > > > When I first rode the bike, the low stop setting on the front > > > derailleur was not set correctly. It took throwing the chain off onto > > > the chain stay with minor jamming a few times before I realized what > > > was happening and the paint on the chain stay was taken off in a swath > > > of about 1/2 inch. I haven't done anything to it other than to keep > > > checking (duh!) but now after a few weeks of bad timing and riding in > > > rain, I can see rust on the surface. There isn't a lot of room > > > between the crank, chain stay and frame in this vicinity and I'm > > > thinking that to really get at the rust I would need to remove the > > > crank. I don't mind giving this a shot, but will need to get a crank > > > puller and since I'm planning to tour on the bike in a month, I don't > > > want to get in a position where I'm getting tools, doing something new > > > and become pressed to get everything back and road tested with a > > > deadline looming. What is the best way to contain the rust? Can it > > > be done without removing the crank (at least for now)? > > > > BTW, it seems to me that the high / low stop settings are very > > > sensitive as I had the chain and cassette replaced recently at my > > > LBS. I wound up throwing the chain several times on my first ride > > > after getting the bike back, roughing up my nice polished crank. This > > > time it was the high setting that I needed to adjust. It seems to be > > > set correctly now but is this a configuration problem--I have a Campy > > > triple on the front and Shimano XT long cage on the rear? I recall > > > reading somewhere (Sheldon Brown?) that these screws should not be > > > loose--they are loose but not excessively so and they seem to stay > > > once set correctly? Is blue lock-tite a recommended solution? > > > > Thanks for your advice. > > > > Joe > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > oakland, ca > bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rust on Chain Stay
I was under the impression that shellack is waterproof, but it is a good point. I will need to check periodically to make sure that the tape isn't scuffed to the point where becomes absorbant. Then a coat or two of shellack will reseal it. Steve On May 26, 10:10 am, Brett Lindenbach wrote: > agreed. seal the area off first with nail polish or similar. you could > then wrap, twine, shellac, whatever to your heart's content. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Junction-Breakwater Trail, Rehobeth Beach, DE
Just got back from a quick trip to Rehobeth Beach. I took my Bleriot for it's first off-pavement outing on the Junction-Breakwater Trail that runs from Rehobeth to Lewes, DE. It's a great trail and I enjoyed the ride thoroughly. Surface is mostly hard-packed dirt with light gravel on top. The Nifty-Swiftys on the bike did fine on this surface and I felt very confident. Here's the link to some photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/109191668701158452616/BleriotAtRehobethBeach?authkey=Gv1sRgCNaf6vqu9cW8NA# Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: East Coast frame painting
For powdercoating, look into Powdercoat studio, linked from the fixedgeargallery website. It's run by a guy I know from other forums, it looks like they do great work and it's very reasonable. It's in Michigan, so you'd have to ship your frame, but given their prices, I think it would be worth it. Steve On Jun 3, 9:46 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > Hi, > I would like to have my green Hillborne frame painted or powder coated > and I live in New York City. > Does anyone have any suggestions on frame painters who can do a good > job and professionally apply decals around NYC? > I know Bilenky in Philly does great work ,and that's very close, but > just putting the feelers out there to see if there is another shop > that comes recommended. > The Hillborne is my daily city commuter and it gets locked up outside > in Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan regularly so a powder coat may make > more sense. The green that came on the bike is very much scratched > off both sides of the top tube from city abuse. I want to protect and > beautify it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS B17 and Selle Anatomica saddles
Melanie, That's a nice deal on the B17 Honey; that's what I have on my Bleriot. Congrats on finding the right saddle and good luck selling the other ones. Happy riding, Steve On Jun 4, 11:36 am, Melanie Yolles wrote: > My search for the perfect saddle is at an end (for now). The Brooks Flyer > Special S is perfect on my Bleriot. So its time for the test saddles to go. > B-17 honey - $80 shipped (ridden for ca. 20 miles) > Selle Anatomica Titanico black - $150 shipped. (ridden for about 5 minutes) > Both a superb saddles - just not for me. > Email me if you're interested. > Thanks, > Melanie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne
My apologies and Grant can blast me, but I think that undertubes are a marketing gimmick. Especially in the smaller sizes. Look around on eBay for 56 Sams or equivalent Bleriots (but study the geometry charts carefully). Or other Riv frames. For your purposes, I bet you can find one that you like. Also, call the Country Bike Shop and see if they have a 56. Steve On Jun 5, 2:56 pm, Jay wrote: > Does this make any sense in a 56 cm Sam? Should it be a deal breaker? > I almost ordered one the other day until I found out all the new one's > have the "undertube". > What does is collective wisdom of this group? > > BTW I weigh 165 lbs want the bike for commuting and the occasional > tour. > > Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...
To add my 2 cents to the discussion: I'm a decade older than 50 (in 3 days!) and last Fall I started getting back into cycling after a hiatus of about 7 years. I had converted my older road bike to flat mtn bars for my daughter, and she loved it (still does). I thought I did too, so I did the same conversion to my road bike. I tried to like it, but I guess I didn't try too hard, because after about 2 rides I started converting it back to drops. I did get the Nitto Technomic (taller) stem, and I liked that better. Now that I build up my Riv, I still have the drop bars and they are currently set at about seat level. I like them there and I don't really see lowering them. My mileage isn't too high yet but I'm generally comfortable on the bike. I really need the variety of hand positions that the drops give me. I was tempted to try moustache bars but read that many don't like them, so why change if I like what I've got? YMMV, Steve On Jun 6, 11:55 am, canali wrote: > just wondering if it's just me and i need to take my time adding the > mileage and being consistent and patient (and getting back into > shape) > > OR do alot of us as we get older no longer find being so bent down as > comfortable...thinking of swapping out drops on atlantis for jeff > jones h loop bars or the north road bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheels and Rivendell - Where We Started
This is interesting from my point of view. Having come to "modern" road cycling in 1994 (and not having heard of Rivendell or GP at that time), I bought a Shimano 8-speed freehub-equipped bike and never looked back. And of course that hub (which I still have) is compatible with the 8-9 Shimano hubs that are widely available, including the one on my 650b wheelset. And cassettes for these are also widely available in a number of ranges/configurations. Seems like a good system to me. Steve On Jun 8, 12:44 pm, Jim Cloud wrote: > With the subject of freewheels on a recent post, I thought it would be > of some interest to quote a piece of Rivendell history from the first > Rivendell catalog (Summer 1996). > > "Freewheels > > "We don't sell cassettes. There's nothing wrong with cassettes, but > there's something fishy about the way they're promoted. Cassettes > support axles better, so you don't break axles; but Bullseye, Phil and > others have proven that you can totally eliminate axle-flex and > breakages with a better designed freewheel hub. More likely, the real > reason cassettes have overtaken freewheels is to increase production > efficiency for the large hub makers. We and many others find > freewheels quicker and easier to change than cassettes; and freewheels > certainly have versatility on their side. Freewheel availability has > got to be a concern for anybody with freewheel hubs. Cassettes change > often enough to make year-to-year compatibility an issue, so it's not > as though once you've got your cassette body, you'll always be able to > get the cogs. But there's little incentive for anybody who ever made > freewheels to continue making them. Shimano still makes one cheap > model, SunTour is history. Regina-the company still exists, but we > hear they're making conveyor belts or something. Sachs, the great > German hope, still offers a full line of freewheels, but the word is > they'd like to cut back their selection. Factories see freewheels as > money-eaters." > > I don't wish to insinuate that something Grant Peterson wrote in 1996 > is representative of his present opinion. It's still interesting, > however, to see how some (including me) would have chosen a freewheel > equipped bike at that time in preference of a cassette. I'm > personally quite satisfied with the choice I made for my 1996 > Rivendell Standard and feel that its given me good service and will > continue to do so in the future. > > Jim Cloud > Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Is parting out a bike better than selling complete?
My thoughts: 1) Parting out (esp. with new parts) is good because most parts are not size-specific to the large frame. 2) Of course more people will be in the market for specific parts a, b or c, rather than having a large amount of cash for the whole bike 3) Or put another way, when you're in the market for a bike this expensive, you likely have some parts of your own/or want to choose them carefully, vs. buy a built-up bike (this was my personal experience recently). 4) Specific-sized frame limits the market, but those looking for a large frame may be willing to buy frame/fork alone. Also, it seems his asking price is a bit high; Frame/fork for new riv is max about $2000, is it not (I'm not talking custom). Steve On Jun 13, 12:59 pm, Brewster Fong wrote: > On the Serotta board, there's a 62cm Riv Rambo that is basically brand > new and selling for $2750 compelete. This is one stunning bike - JB > creamsicle paint, brand new everything else. Here's the link: > > http://forums.serotta.com/showthread.php?t=91682 > > Note, for those not members, here are the links to a few pics: > > http://forums.serotta.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=82382&stc=1 > > http://forums.serotta.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=82383&stc=1 > > Anyways, it seems like a pretty good deal, but the owner hasn't gotten > any interest. One person advised that since most, if not all of the > parts were new, he would be better off parting it out and selling > parts/frameset individually. Is this the right strategy? Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Is parting out a bike better than selling complete?
OK, I looked at the specs and he certainly does have a lot more than the asking price invested. However my comments remain, if he's willing to go to the hassle of disassembling and shipping. The bag alone could bring some good money. There's certainly some amount of risk to this plan, but in my watching Riv frame prices on eBay for several months, I think he will always do fine on selling the frame. Steve On Jun 13, 1:38 pm, islaysteve wrote: > My thoughts: 1) Parting out (esp. with new parts) is good because > most parts are not size-specific to the large frame. 2) Of course more > people will be in the market for specific parts a, b or c, rather than > having a large amount of cash for the whole bike 3) Or put another > way, when you're in the market for a bike this expensive, you likely > have some parts of your own/or want to choose them carefully, vs. buy > a built-up bike (this was my personal experience recently). 4) > Specific-sized frame limits the market, but those looking for a large > frame may be willing to buy frame/fork alone. > > Also, it seems his asking price is a bit high; Frame/fork for new riv > is max about $2000, is it not (I'm not talking custom). > > Steve > > On Jun 13, 12:59 pm, Brewster Fong wrote: > > > > > On the Serotta board, there's a 62cm Riv Rambo that is basically brand > > new and selling for $2750 compelete. This is one stunning bike - JB > > creamsicle paint, brand new everything else. Here's the link: > > >http://forums.serotta.com/showthread.php?t=91682 > > > Note, for those not members, here are the links to a few pics: > > >http://forums.serotta.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=82382&stc=1 > > >http://forums.serotta.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=82383&stc=1 > > > Anyways, it seems like a pretty good deal, but the owner hasn't gotten > > any interest. One person advised that since most, if not all of the > > parts were new, he would be better off parting it out and selling > > parts/frameset individually. Is this the right strategy? Good Luck!- Hide > > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Market Prices for Riv Frames
In view of the other thread about the nice Rambo for sale on CList, I thought I'd start a general discussion of used Riv prices. Just because it's kind of interesting. Someone on the other thread implied that it's not reasonable to compare the asking price of a used frame to the price of a new frame, esp. if it's a different model. I disagree. Long ago I had a job processing claims. The principles apply, I argue. To use my own example, you can't buy a new Bleriot. If you want a new Riv frame that's close to a Bleriot in geometry and function, you buy a Sam. Back when they were sold, Bleriots cost $750 (such a deal!). Today new Sams cost $1100 (?) or $1500, and that is a whole other discussion in itself. In my size (small), they cost $1500. So when I paid more than the original cost for my pristine Bleriot frame/fork, was I foolish? I don't think so. Riv frames in my size on the used market are not available all that often. So the other part of this equation is depreciation: the word that insurance companies love and claimants hate. I think you have to agree that most things, Riv frames included, depreciate. If you'd rather have a new frame out of the box from Walnut Creek than a used frame from Joe on eBay, that's depreciation. If the used frame has some paint chipping around the dropouts, that's.you get the picture. We can argue about how much to depreciate a Riv frame, or anything else. I wouldn't depreciate it down to 25% after say 10 years, like some claims payers might. So to wrap this up, my point is that it's reasonable to look at the price of a comparable new frame (bike), decide what kind of depreciation to apply to the used bike in question, and go from there. And of course the buyers emotions and wants play into this a good bit. I would have rather had an orange Sam with Hillborne graphics than the blue Bleriot. But it just wasn't worth nearly double the price to me. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Market Prices for Riv Frames
Rene, I agree with all you said. You said that value COULD go up when production stopped. Maybe, but it depends on the desirability of the frame in the first place. And also perhaps in the number produced. The Rivendell name certainly provides a hedge against depreciation, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it confers automatic collector's status. IMHO. Steve On Jun 14, 4:22 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > Since we're not arguing how much an insurance claim should pay... and I know > I don't understand all the nuances about how the "replacement value" clause > is applied, I'd argue that the ultimate price any bike/frame would command > would be driven by market demand, and not by how much it went for when it > was manufactured/sold as new. > > In the case of Rivendell bikes, my position would be that if I absolutely > want that bike/frame for whatever reason, I'd be willing to pay more for > them. If I just consider them older/used, then I'd expect to pay less for > them than a brand new equivalent I'd buy from Rivendell. > > An analogy, although perhaps not the best one, would be that as soon as > production was stopped on a given model, just like a photographer destroying > the negative of a given picture (Ansel Adams did this), the price for > existing ones could actually go up as they are now potential collector's > items. > > Should an original parallel top tube Bombadil command a higher, equal or > lower price than a new diagonal tube Bombadil? It all depends on what you're > after. > > René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Market Prices for Riv Frames
If William's statement is true, and I imagine that it is, it's mainly because Bleriots had such a low price to begin with AND that the pricing on its replacement has taken such a jump. It's too bad that RBW couldn't have maintained the Bleriot and its pricing for longer. (We've all read GPs reasons for pulling it, I'm sure.) On Jun 14, 2:17 pm, William wrote: > It seems that only the Bleriot is worth more than original retail in > the resale market. Single top tube Hillbornes seem to be worth about > $700-$800 on the resale market. Atlantis and Hilsens and Salukis seem > to go for $1200-$1400. Bombadils do not hold their value well at all, > from what I've seen. Maybe $1000-$1200. I'd be interested to see > what a Wilbury or Glorius would go for, since they seem to come up > VERY rarely. Rambouillets seem to go in the $800-$1000 range. > Quickbeams can pull very close to their retail price. > > On Jun 14, 11:10 am, Brett Lindenbach > wrote: > > > > > I bought a 59 cm Blériot frame and fork in very good condition on ebay late > > last year, and paid $910. That was the market rate on that day, and I was > > almost outbid. I was glad to pay it too, as it is a great frameset.- Hide > > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Watter bottle recommendations?
I was using another brand of SS bottle and yes, it did rattle a bit. I switched back to a plastic bottle (RBW-branded, just because). I missed the easy grip and being able to squeeze the bottle when drinking on the bike. So I'm slowly reverting back to my roadie ways. (Next, 120 psi--not.) Steve On Jun 15, 10:54 am, "Darin G." wrote: > Those of you using the Kleen Kanteen--do they rattle around? I > suspect there is a difference between being secure in the cage and not > making noise every time you go over a bump. > > On Jun 15, 6:14 am, John Aydelotte wrote: > > > > > +1 for the King Kage Iris. I have them on almost all my bikes. They > > fit the Klean Kanteen bottles extremely well. > > > I actually met the guy who makes them at the Rocky Mountain Bicycle > > Festival this past weekend. He made most of a cage in front of me in > > under a minute (not including the part that holds it onto the bike -- > > I think that's welded on). I am happy to support a local businessman > > (Durango, CO) who makes such a great product. > > > On Jun 15, 5:05 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 21:59 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: > > > > King Cage Iris cages. Not as elegant as the Nittos, but still look > > > > interesting and have held up well so far (bought earlier this year). > > > > They carry KK bottles fine, with no need for twine or leather. > > > > The King Iris is the best cage there is for an under-the-downtube upside > > > down mount, as the weight of the bottle cannot pull the cage open.- Hide > > > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Market Prices for Riv Frames
Leslie, No offense taken by me at all! I understand what you're saying about some people overpaying for nice-looking restored car, while more knowledgable folks know that there is an upper limit to reasonable prices for any given model. This may be similar to the pricing on the Ram we are discussing, but of course the final sale price will determine that (if we ever find out.) I'm also amazed by the high asking prices for some older bikes on CL. It may seem reasonable to the seller that if a $700 (when new) bike is like new, it should be worth $400 now. They don't realize that the technology has moved on so much in 10, 15 or 20 years, that their bike is pretty much obsolete to most buyers. I guess the fixed-gear/single-speed trend has been a boon to those selling older steel bikes. I'm just glad that I bought my Bleriot when I did, for what I paid. Steve On Jun 14, 9:45 pm, Leslie wrote: > On Jun 14, 7:08 am, islaysteve wrote: > > > > > > > In view of the other thread about the nice Rambo for sale on CList, I > > thought I'd start a general discussion of used Riv prices. Just > > because it's kind of interesting. Someone on the other thread implied > > that it's not reasonable to compare the asking price of a used frame > > to the price of a new frame, esp. if it's a different model. I > > disagree. Long ago I had a job processing claims. The principles > > apply, I argue. To use my own example, you can't buy a new Bleriot. > > If you want a new Riv frame that's close to a Bleriot in geometry and > > function, you buy a Sam. Back when they were sold, Bleriots cost $750 > > (such a deal!). Today new Sams cost $1100 (?) or $1500, and that is a > > whole other discussion in itself. In my size (small), they cost > > $1500. So when I paid more than the original cost for my pristine > > Bleriot frame/fork, was I foolish? I don't think so. Riv frames in > > my size on the used market are not available all that often. So the > > other part of this equation is depreciation: the word that insurance > > companies love and claimants hate. I think you have to agree that > > most things, Riv frames included, depreciate. If you'd rather have a > > new frame out of the box from Walnut Creek than a used frame from Joe > > on eBay, that's depreciation. If the used frame has some paint > > chipping around the dropouts, that's.you get the picture. We can > > argue about how much to depreciate a Riv frame, or anything else. I > > wouldn't depreciate it down to 25% after say 10 years, like some > > claims payers might. So to wrap this up, my point is that it's > > reasonable to look at the price of a comparable new frame (bike), > > decide what kind of depreciation to apply to the used bike in > > question, and go from there. And of course the buyers emotions and > > wants play into this a good bit. I would have rather had an orange > > Sam with Hillborne graphics than the blue Bleriot. But it just wasn't > > worth nearly double the price to me. Cheers, Steve > > I suppose I should reply here, as it might very well be me that was > implying that it's not quite appropriate to do a direct price > comparison between a discontinued used model and a new current model. > > And, I should go ahead and say, anything I say isn't meant to offend, > is simply my perspective, YMMV. > > I will agree, if you want to have insurance replace a bike with a very > comparable brand/model, then sure, you can insure it for a declared > amount to make sure that if stolen, you could go and replace it (ie, > replace a Rambouillet with a Roadeo). That would be a $1600 frame, > being replaced with a $2000 frame. > > And, I love my Rambouillet, it's an awesome bike. I really would like > to think that, it'd be reasonable to expect that an insurance company > would replace it with a brand new Roadeo if anything ever happened to > it. And if I had an Atlantis that was a year or two old, maybe it'd > not be too unreasonable to argue with insurance that they could just > buy a new one to replace it. > > But, realistically, as soon as you drive a car off a lot, it's a used > car. A few years later, once a company has replaced it with a new > model, if I went to sell it, I wouldn't expect to set its price > directly compared to a new car, I have to look at the price for which > used ones of its same year are selling, regardless of the new model > being the one that's most like it. > > I had a Subaru, a month old, 2nd payment not-yet-made on it, and it > was rear-ended. Shouldn't have been totaled, but, a
[RBW] Re: The bike collection (or hoard?)
Only two for me, and it's likely to stay that way (which is fine): Riv Bleriot, acquired and built up early this year. My one and only riding bike right now as I'm getting back into it. Built it in a pretty roadish configuration, with Nifty-Swiftys as of now. I want to get into more dirt road (and such) riding with this bike, so I'll see how these tires do. I'm loving this bike and will likely keep it for a long, long time. Performance Ti road bike, ca 1995, with custom paint. I'm very sentimentally attached to this bike. It's not fully built at the moment but could be without a lot of expense. As I ride more, I'm realizing that there will be times when it'll be nice to have a fast road bike again. So it's nice to know that I have one! Happy Fathers Day, everyone! Steve On Jun 17, 6:49 pm, mike wrote: > Sort of related to "Rivs in the Rafters", but started as a new thread > here since there's little Riv content. And none in my rafters. > > I have some tendency to hoard (my first and only Riv is in the > building stage (S1)) and my wife tends to want to get rid of stuff. > That makes for a good balance. > > A couple of weeks ago I went to an estate sale. I just happened to > ride by and stopped in. Holy Crap! What an amazing collection of > wonderful useless crap. It truly made me want to go home and throw > something away. > > I remember something Grant wrote about the optimum number of bikes. > It was at least seven. A go fast, touring, single speed, beater, one > under repair, a loaner, I can't remember the rest. > > My bikes: > > Probably early 70s, French, Probably Mercier frame. Probably their > closest thing to the Pugeot PX-10. The bare frame is hanging in the > garage, stripped for parts about a year ago. It needs to go. > > 1986 Vitus 979. I've ridden it a lot recently. Even tried it with 26 > inch wheels. I sort of like that!. The BB is a little bit low, but > it's ridable. It's lovely, great components on it. It needs to go. > > Two 1986 Stumpjumpers, one "Sport" one regular. These have been my > commuters for a while. > > My not yet completely assembled Simple One. > > I really need to consolidate down to fewer bikes. I can't ride them > all and it's too much work to keep them all maintained. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The bike collection (or hoard?)
Liesl, Do you have pix of the Bleriot posted anywhere? I'd love to see it. Steve On Jun 19, 11:59 pm, Liesl wrote: > Riv Saluki--first litter, serial number 77. 50cm red with cream head > tube, mustache bars, silver bar-ends, nitto dirt-drop, VO elk sew-on > grips, wood fenders, honey brooks, nitto marks rack with a baggins > adam & mini -front with a nigel smyth tweed li'l loafer, snow peak > spork mounted on one of the water bottle braze-ons. Looks a bit like > a '57 MG. she's the pretty girl. > > Riv Protovelo Bleriot--51 cm set up as a little quickbeam, sandblasted > clear powdercoat, mustache bars, nitto dirt-drop, white hubs with an > eno on the back, green brooks, carradice barley on the back. just a > simple delight to ride--as my main commuter, might get ridden the > most? > > Bike Friday Pocket Rocket--riv-ified. british green, mustache bars, > 1x8 with a single shimano bar-end, honey brooks, sackville keven's up > front and steals the carradice barley. what a companion; has gone as > far as new zealand with me. > > 86 Trek 650--dark blue, tiny frame with big 700 wheels set up as a > single speed winter beater, mustache bars, nitto dirt-drop, baggins > keven's bag up front and baggins little joe on the back. all scuffed > up and covered in salt grime; no one knows how nice she is. > > '99 Kona Fire Mountain--olive green, albatross bars (you mean you have > a bike without mustache bars???), cork grips, shimano bar ends, > studded nokia snow tires and army surplus appointments. the jeep. > > cheers, liesl > minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Hillborne
Super great-looking bike with all the Rivish goodies! I like the blue twine, which I presume is not shellacked. I never thought of colored twine before. I really like the orange paint scheme with blue accents. I'm sure you'll enjoy riding this for a long time. Steve On Jun 19, 6:53 pm, John L wrote: > pics here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/34864597@N00/sets/72157626993100778/ > > Loving the ride. Have the handlebars way up where I couldn't get them > on my Long Haul Trucker, and it's fantastic. My bottom will need to > get reacquainted with the Brooks I'm riding, as I think my weight is > just a bit differently distributed. Was a little nervous about the > Jack Brown Greens, given that I'm on the bigger side, but loved the > ride and they even handled some of the packed dirt/gravel roads near > me without a fuss. > > Really loving the Acorn medium/large saddlebag. Fits what I like to > bring with me for a leisurely afternoon on the bike (camera, snack > food, extra water bottle, basic repair stuff, haven't tried rain > jacket but there are D-rings and an extra set of leather straps - > purchased separately - for afixing one). And the tapered design means > I don't even know it's there; no bagman style support needed. Quick > run to the local supermarket and LBS, was able to fit a bag of baby > carrots, Sabra style hummus container, bag of trail mix, 32oz juice > bottle, wallet (overstuffed), cell phone, keys, above mentioned repair > stuff (tire levers & patch kit, multi tool, leatherman) and used the > leather fasteners (not the extra straps) to carry a U-lock, pedal > wrench, and mini frame pump. Someone smarter at packing could > probably get a good deal more out of it. Someone stupider (or at > least more reckless) too. > > Thanks again to Dick & Dick Denning at the Country Bike Shop for the > great service and build! > > Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thumbies vs BEs
"Go to the Dark Side, Luke.": Brifters. On Jun 23, 9:20 am, MichaelH wrote: > I am considering a switch to thumbies on our tandem. I am finding the > BEs too slow on the tandem for the kind of rolling hills of Vt, which > require a lot of fast, double shifts to attack hills that often swing > from minus to plus 10%. The long cables, long rear derailleur cage, > and the need to move each separately from the shifter back to the bar > before I can reach for the other shifter causes too much delay and I > end up with too much pressure to drop the chain, or I shift early and > we end up spinning wildly, or even dropping the chain all together. > > Does anyone have any experience going from one to the other on a road > bike, that they can share. I suppose the other option is to ride more > on the drops, where I can reach the shifters faster. > > Michael > Westford, Vt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'm now OFFICIALLY a riv owner!
Rex, Congratulations from another recent-new-Riv owner! You're going to love your bike even more when you ride it. I agree with Jim about the hubs: I mounted VO wheels (105 hubs, 130mm) in a Bleriot frame which also takes 135mm. There were no issues whatsoever. I just installed the wheel and tightened the skewers. In my case these are VO anti-theft skewers, so you screw them tight. So far, they work great, YMMV. I felt the same as you regarding the shiny hubs/wheels. The VO wheels, 650b in my case, look great and ride great. Of course we want to see pictures, especially of that color. Good riding, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9L65p8LVIt8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How to treat large dings that have rusted?
If the areas are pretty large, it might be worthwhile to first apply masking tape around the area, do a good sanding down to the metal with automotive sandpaper. Then apply a rust-inhibiting primer like Rustoleum, either by brush or spray. If by spray, of course you'll want to re-mask and cover the rest of the frame with paper or plastic to prevent overspray. Then you can do final coats of color in a compatible enamel. If you have a good color match, you can try to blend with the original paint by tapering the spray off at the edges, and (after a good long time to harden the paint), feathering the edges with very fine sandpaper. Hard to explain, but I've done it on a car body. Important: first test the compatibility of any paint that you use on an inconspicuous part of the frame. Some paints will dissolve others, etc. Hope this helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CFiaJIdzdq0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which nail polish for 1st generation green Sam Hillborne?
OK, Sally Hanson, Sam Hillborne, how can you go wrong? Or, buy one of each, try a little on the inside of a dropout, or other not-too-visible area, see what you like? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6x4V_pTs3KYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shifting
Dave, this is exactly the setup that I was going to suggest, as it is something I'd like to try on my Bleriot. I have 8spd Shimano brifters and would like to try them with one of the bars that you mention. Seems like they would work; at least it's worth a try before investing in new shifters and brake levers. Do you have any personal experience with this setup? Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Shifting
Thanks Dave. That's what I'm thinking too, about the two levers moving in the same direction. I hope to give this a try before Spring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
Great tips, guys! Steve, thanks for the memories of friction tape. Remember seeing the blue sparks when you peel it from the roll in the dark? Patrick, wholeheartedly agree with all of you points, especially the stand! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] wtt: my Schwalbe Marathon 650b tires for your Nifty Swifty 650b
Eric, I have a pair of Nifties purchased in 2011 and replaced the same year with less than 100 miles on them. Nothing wrong, I just got a good deal on Pari-Motos and wanted to try them. Stored inside since 2011. I'm not interested in the Schwalbes, but what about $45 plus actual shipping cost for the pair? Please reply to alkiremx(five) at verizon dot net, if you are interested. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Will Rosco see the light of day?
Bring it around and show it to me when you do, Erl! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie/Clem substitute: Bridgestone CB3
Lucky girl, good Dad! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More, or less lights/reflectivity better?
Great story, Steve! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Matthews Road Bike for Dirt, inaugural ride and photos
That's a great looking bike, Patrick. Congratulations and enjoy it! Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Short Bleriot on PDX Craigslist
That's a pretty nice deal for the right person. Good thing I already have one in my size. Nice build, might want yo rethink the rear rack though. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] PSA - Good price on a small frame Atlantis
Paging Erl! (For Mrs.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!
John, Having mounted a VO Constructeur rear rack on a Bleriot, I will say that you may end up wanting to cut the ends of either the struts or the top tange, depending on fit and aesthetics. And I can attest that the steel is hard. But it's doable with a hacksaw and file; a Dremel tool comes in very handy for these jobs as well. Good luck, Steve On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 7:42:44 AM UTC-4, Jon Craig wrote: > > According to V-O's site they come pre-drilled now. Yeah, I don't want to > try to drill steel. :D It comes with the daruma as well, so if I need it, > it's there. > > BTW - Sam's brake bolt comes in through the back of the crown rather than > bolting through the front - it's an odd bolt. I wonder if the daruma will > work on it. Guess I'll find out! > > On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 7:32:27 AM UTC-4, drew wrote: >> >> The vo constructeur will work fine, but I'm not sure it fits your plug n >> play requirements. You may need to cut the bottom mounts, bend the tang (if >> you want it thru the brake bolt), or use a daruma (if you don't). >> >> That being said it's a cool rack that fulfills a unique gap in front >> racks. Lightish, steel, much sturdier than a mini but not delving into >> heavy duty touring/pannier capability. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!
Jon, I have a VO Constructeur rear rack on my Bleriot. Depending on fit, you may or may not have to cut the bottom struts, as someone else here has mentioned. Since your Sam is 700c, the bottom hole may work, then no cutting. The steel is hard, but you should only need a hacksaw with a good blade to cut straight across. A file can be used to clean up the corners of the cut. Of course, something to hold the piece tight, like a vice, would help. Do you know anyone with a workbench or basic shop? Once installed, these racks seem very solid; I've been pleased with mine. Good luck, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing
It seems like there have been a number of Rivs listed for sale here by owners who indicate that they a just a bit too large. Personally, I am small; 5'5 and I believe my PBH is about 79, I haven't measured in a while. According to the published chart, I should be on a 53 Bleriot. However, my 51 Bleriot fits perfectly IMO (drop bars). I can just comfortably stand over it. I would not want to buy a particular model Rivendell without riding it first. Fortunately, there are some dealers around the country now. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: First S24O, on the C&O Canal
Great writeup, John, thanks! I can't believe that there's no water at
Swain's Lock. Next time you can try some of the campgrounds further up the
canal. I haven't camped there but have ridden past them. Cheers, Steve
On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 12:12:46 AM UTC-4, John Stowe wrote:
>
> With my wife out of town for the week last week, to break up the full-time
> childcare marathon I decided to declare a camping trip for me and my 3
> ("and a half!") year old son. The weather and open schedule lined up to set
> off Thursday afternoon. We camped with him last summer on a road trip, so
> he remembered and was excited about sleeping in a tent etc., but this was
> the first S24O (and first bike camping trip) either of us had been on. With
> the child seat blocking the rear rack, I was grateful for the carrying
> capacity of my Pass & Stow rack up front. Warm weather meant we could
> lighten the load by skipping sleeping bags.
>
>
>
>
> In the morning my passenger got a surprise gift of binoculars which
> successfully kept him occupied on a long ride for him, over 2 hours of
> riding plus breaks. It was a Very Hot Day, 90+, though not as humid as DC
> can sometimes be. The first 8 miles (of 24), from Alexandria to Georgetown
> on the Mount Vernon Trail, is part of my old commute and a route I still
> ride several times a week - it was interesting to take it at a much slower
> pace than usual (though not reduced effort!). Fortunately we left early
> enough that we didn't get caught up in tangles of commuter traffic, so I
> didn't have to do much regaining my momentum. The climb up to the Key
> Bridge has a very steep bit which actually forced me into "granny gear" - a
> rarity in our fairly flat surroundings. I was glad for the foresight of
> including 24/32 gearing when I was selecting components 4 years ago!
>
> The shade on the C&O Canal towpath helped with the heat considerably, and
> the change in scenery made things more interesting for both of us. We took
> a couple of 'nature breaks' and snack/water stops and slowed down a few
> times to check out birds and fish in the canal. My Sam Hillborne handled
> the packed dirt/stone towpath quite well, with the front/back loading much
> closer to evenly balanced than I've gotten used to with my son in his rear
> seat. I wondered if the 35mm Schwalbe Delta Cruisers I have on it for city
> riding might not be wide enough for the load + dirt, but they did fine - if
> we were doing a multi-day trip, though, something wider would be better. I
> was able to pin down a handling quirk I had felt a few times before with
> heavy front loads, when the steering would start to feel springy. I thought
> before that it was play in the rack, but the slightly rougher dirt surface
> didn't seem to bother it at all. The Pass & Stow is very solid. Instead the
> springiness I felt in large steering inputs seemed was due to twisting in
> the stem! The leverage of the wide Bosco Bullmoose bars combined with the
> inertia of the rack load gave me something to push against and wind it up -
> enough to see the twist in the bars relative to the rack. Next time I have
> a big load I will try adding some Irish Straps between the bars and the
> load/rack to see if they help firm things up.
>
>
>
>
> We got to the campsite (Swain's Lock, for those who know the C&O) about
> 7pm, just in time for dinner. We brought spaghetti, [no longer frozen]
> meatballs and sauce from home and cooked it on the Trangia. My previous
> attempt at using the Trangia was on a very windy beach at Nag's Head, NC,
> where I was burning through fuel faster than I could get water boiling.
> This time it was much more efficient, and actually got a bit too hot at the
> bottom. I had to pick some burned noodles off the pot later. Set up the
> tent while dinner cooked, and ready for bed just-like-that. Except: unlike
> most of the campgrounds, which have wells with hand pumps to provide water,
> this had a standpipe that was... turned off. A check on my smartphone
> revealed that it had been for some time. I had brought along a filter "just
> to be safe" with the well water and ended up using it to filter 6L of water
> straight from the Potomac. I was very dehydrated from the hot day and the
> effort, and did not plan for enough water carrying capacity - the nearest
> fresh water was a 5 mile round trip back down the canal to the Great Falls
> visitor center, and I would have had a hard time coaxing my now sleepy
> passenger back onto the bike. The overnight temperature didn't get much
> below 80, a bit hotter than I would have liked, but we managed with shirts
> off and a bedsheets from home. Between the heat, needing to rehydrate, and
> trying to work out comfortable sleeping positions (I had only been able to
> find one of our two
[RBW] Re: Roadini
And, as someone recently asked on the facebook page for this group: Is there any love for the Bleriot? This was the bike that resulted from a collaboration between RBW and QBP, and was available both from Rivendell and any QBP dealer from, I believe, 2006 to 2008. Dealers could also offer it as a complete, I'm not sure if RBW did. It was brazed in Taiwan and easily takes Pair-Motos and even wider tires. I refer you to cyclofiend's excellent webpage on the Bleriot: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bleriot/index.html. I count myself very lucky to have acquired a Bleriot several years ago and it may very well be the last bike I buy. It fits me perfectly, rides great, inspires confidence, and is also "lugged to the teeth." I will be interested to see the Roadini and to compare it with the Bleriot. Cheers, Steve (in heat-wave Maryland) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring
Wihtout reference to size, I don't think you'd be disappointed in the Bleriot at all. And between the two you originally posted, you'd save $1000, which isn't trivial. Granted the All Rounder is very nice looking. The Bleriot is a very pretty bike. For the savings, you could have it painted. Bleriot takes at least 38 tires, with fenders I believe. Maybe wider. Rear fender and rack islets, no rack eyelets up front, you can use P clamps. There's really not much downside, as long as the bike fits you. My 2 cents, Steve On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:53:42 AM UTC-4, EricP wrote: > For the original poster, that Atlantis is probably too big. As to the > Bleriot, whenever I had a chance to ride one years ago, they felt "small" > to me. The 59 might work for you. Would suggest a test ride before > buying, if at all possible. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > > On Monday, April 23, 2012 9:47:27 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: > >> There is a 64cm Atlantis on the Bay, maybe too big, even for riv >> sizing? >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/w_4wpOIKYMYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cheap, indexed, and decent
Joe, I have some Shimano pod shifters (brake with integrated trigger/thumb shift). Identical to those my daughter rides and likes. Double or triple, 7/8 speed. Nearly new and cheap. Have other parts for build also. Please email me offlist if you're interested: alkiremx5 at verizon dot net. Cheers, Steve On Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:55:39 PM UTC-4, joe b. wrote: > > Can I pick three? I'm pretty far behind on indexed shifting bits. I'm > building up parent/guest bikes and want to keep it simple for the > riders. Likely they'll have either single or double chainrings and 7-8 > gears in back. I found last year that friction may not be simple > enough for visiting flatlanders. What's a decent component set to look > for? Open to gripshift or trigger shift, I guess. I think I understand > the short v. long pull shifter/derailer thing. Any other gotchas? Bar > end shifters are a little out of my price range for this project. > > Many thanks, > joe broach > portland, or > http://cyclerslife.blogspot.com/ > On Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:55:39 PM UTC-4, joe b. wrote: > > Can I pick three? I'm pretty far behind on indexed shifting bits. I'm > building up parent/guest bikes and want to keep it simple for the > riders. Likely they'll have either single or double chainrings and 7-8 > gears in back. I found last year that friction may not be simple > enough for visiting flatlanders. What's a decent component set to look > for? Open to gripshift or trigger shift, I guess. I think I understand > the short v. long pull shifter/derailer thing. Any other gotchas? Bar > end shifters are a little out of my price range for this project. > > Many thanks, > joe broach > portland, or > http://cyclerslife.blogspot.com/ > On Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:55:39 PM UTC-4, joe b. wrote: > > Can I pick three? I'm pretty far behind on indexed shifting bits. I'm > building up parent/guest bikes and want to keep it simple for the > riders. Likely they'll have either single or double chainrings and 7-8 > gears in back. I found last year that friction may not be simple > enough for visiting flatlanders. What's a decent component set to look > for? Open to gripshift or trigger shift, I guess. I think I understand > the short v. long pull shifter/derailer thing. Any other gotchas? Bar > end shifters are a little out of my price range for this project. > > Many thanks, > joe broach > portland, or > http://cyclerslife.blogspot.com/ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M1QhNGZY_YQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thank you
Manny, Congratulations on the new bike! You are an inspiration and I'm so glad that got your stolen Riv replaced. Kudos to Grant and the gang for making this happen. I too look forward to your posts and photos. Is that a 48 Sam? I recall that you had a 51 Bleriot, which is what I have. I also contemplated getting a 48 Sam, thinking that to be the size best for me. Can you compare the fit between the two bikes? Any difference that you can feel? Enjoy your bike as only you can! Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EnHEpoA4ygIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Accugauge: fits Presta?
Yes, they make both, I have a Presta. I got it because the gauge on my old Performance pump was going bad, and I wanted some accuracy, having been educated about lower tire pressure by everyone here. The gauge works, but it's a bit finicky to get seated on the valve, and often all you do is let air out, without getting a good reading. Also a hassle to check, attach chuck, pump, repeat (not the gauge's fault, or course). I basically gave that up and got a new pump with a nice gauge mounted high where I can read it. On Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:17:56 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > I think I've got one of those, or at least it looks very similar, but > it's Schraeder only. Do they make this type of gauge in Presta, or do > y'all have to use an adaptor? > > -- > "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." > > Flannery O'Connor > > - > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > - > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/095zqlGZxtEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Koolaid drunk.
I printed this portion out and read it to my wife, she thought it was hilarious. I'm partly there, along the deFredification spectrum: Added bell to Riv, Pari-Motos, but no mirror. Wear lycra, but got rid of the clicky shoes/pedals. Don't know where this will end ; ). Had a great Father's Day ride with my daughter yesterday--she and her bike are about as un-Fred as you can get.Cheers, Steve On Friday, June 15, 2012 4:49:51 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > FRIDAY, JUNE 15, 2012 > > BSNYC Friday Fun Quiz! > Yesterday, I dressed head to bunions in special bikey clothes, and > then I rode around in circles for about an hour. > > I mention this only to underscore a fundamental truth, which is this: > Once a Fred, Always a Fred. Sure, I could have just jumped on a bike > while wearing regular clothing, but instead I opted to don a special > proprietary wardrobe just to enjoy an hour of leisurely forward > motion. For some reason, once you take it into your head that proper > leisure cycling has to involve stretchy shorts and clicky shoes, it's > nearly impossible to free yourself from this notion. In fact, the > only person in history who's successfully done so is Grant Petersen, > and he even wrote an excellent book that will tell you how to do it > too, though in undertaking his de-Fredification treatment you do run > the risk of becoming something even stranger. It's sort of like > kicking drugs only to become a born-again Christian. > > Patrick Moore, who half-way Fredded up today in jersey and SPD shoes > but forwent the gloves, helmet, pants and glasses. > > -- > "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." > > Flannery O'Connor > > - > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > - > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2zw7ddFrCJoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A very cool, riv-ish bike computer/bell
I have to admit, I'd consider one of these. Looks much better than the current crop, and I kind of miss my computer (but don't want to mount one of the Riv). This looks like it's purely conceptual though. On Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:44:51 PM UTC-4, ekoral wrote: > i thought if anyone would appreciate this new concept computer, it would > be you guys. It looks like it has a speedometer, trip and overall odometer, > as well as a BELL! > > i love this thing and i can't wait until it's a reality (if ever). > check it out guys! > > eli > > http://redfish.ee/?p=477 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9csKOy1g0AsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Poster
I just looked at the Blug and I really like what I see in the poster. It's much more "literal" than most of his work. In case, I like that. Did you see the early poster for a bike shop? Main subject was a locomotive. Anyway, I can't wait for mine, I have great place for it. (Surprised that Grant decided to show this much.) Cheers, Steve On Friday, June 22, 2012 10:51:18 AM UTC-4, Tony Lockhart wrote: > > Did you happen to see the updated blug posting from the other day. The > folks at Riv released a line-work image of the posterthey're going to > continually release other images showing the progression of the poster. I > really like that idea. > > While this won't really spoil it for anyone who's waiting, I really like > the "mid-century" font used on Riv products. I'm a huge fan of wares and > products made from the Arts and Crafts movement and really think the design > is pretty awesome. I'm really glad the font used on the poster matches. > > On Friday, June 22, 2012 6:06:48 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote: >> >> Although my poster hasn't arrived, I checked the artist's website and >> like his work. Definitely glad I didn't miss out on this. >> >> --mike >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tcOckKzNZ00J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Poster
I don't have my poster yet, it's due to arrive on Thursday. A few comments on comments... When I saw the first design, I noticed the boy's foot under the wheel and I just assumed that the bike was suspended; either in a workstand or hung up some other way. Grant described the artist coming to RBW and taking many many photos. Who knows, maybe the boy was actually doing this to a bike that was suspended. After looking at most of his work, I'm not surprised that the artist used a child in the poster. I think it's perfect for Rivendell, emphasizing the child-like joy that we get from our bicycles. My slight quandry is the "Rivendell" on the downtube, along with a diagatube (sp?). To me, this implies a custom bike, which is entirely possible, of course. It makes sense that he would put Rivendell on the bike instead of Bombadil or another model. Just wondering about the actual bike "model". On mounting the poster, I found a good article yesterday and thought I'd start a separate post about it, with a link. As you might imagine, there's more to know that (we) know. I agree with the commenter who was taken aback by the thought of RBW losing money on the early posters. Business decision was made, Grant seems to be OK with it. I'm so glad that this effort is a success for him and RBW. Without getting too gushy, he has helped bring another enjoyable "object" into the world. It's a delight to look at, easy to use, and is available for less than the price of a good shirt. Not to mention that even at the new price, it's more affordable than other DLG posters. Everyone enjoy your poster! Steve On Monday, June 25, 2012 8:38:31 PM UTC-4, René wrote: > I got my poster today, as I was out traveling last week. Everyone who has > posted so far has had nothing bad to say about it, so it feels that many in > the bunch feel that nothing that comes out of RBW has any flaws at all. > > While I like the poster, and do not regret buying it sight unseen, I can't > say that it is what I expected it would be. I didn't look at the artist's > website so I had no preconceived notions except for what my own sense of > excitement at the mention of Rivendell. > > Since those who have not bought it yet can actually see what it's about on > the Blug section, I'm going to be a bit more specific in my comments: > > I like it, but am not overwhelmed by it. What does bother me, though, is > seeing the boys foot/shoe showing under the tire. Aesthetically (or > whatever term is appropriate) it bugs me because my mind questions how can > that be possible. Is he lifting the bike? Doesn't seem so, did then someone > rolled the bike over his foot? Doesn't seem so either as the bike doesn't > seem to be tilted up. Anyway... > > Other than that detail, I believe that like almost all of the RBW frame > colors (with the except of the Hunqapillar gray) the more I look at it, the > more it will grow on me. That is, unless the issue with the foot under the > wheel also makes me more and more uncomfortable... > > Can anyone come up with my explanation that allows me to go "Aha!!!" and > makes the whole foot thing make sense? > > At least if I end up not liking it at all, I paid the lowest price by > buying it unseen. I do like RBW's price escalation scheme as it supports us > wild risk takers... :-D > > Hope no one gets mad at me for this post... > > René > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VD3G1z12xQ4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] The Poster--What to do now that you have it
In anticipation of receiving my poster, I was pondering how I would mount/frame/hang it. This is the first piece of original art that I will have in the poster medium, and I want to do it right. Not that I ever intend to sell it, but I'd like to at least be able to hand it down in good condition to one of my kids. I thought that this article was comprehensive and realistic for the real world: http://www.artelino.com/articles/care_art_prints.asp. No matter what you decide to do with your poster, it's better to be informed about your choices. (I almost feel like buying another; one to hang, one to store away!). Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AqnpUTQndHoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Poster
I second this sentiment and also the suggestion for a "goodwill" item from which to order. Agree that I would have ordered at a low intro price whether $20, 23, 25, etc. I'm sure that many others here would have also. Grant, please consider this. (Still anxiously awaiting poster delivery tomorrow!) Steve On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:12:34 AM UTC-4, Scott A wrote: > I was amazed when I read they'd sold over 600 prints "in the blind", > but had the same cringing reaction when I read about the cost vs. > price. Though it's not the same situation, it reminded me of all the > stories you here about small businesses getting into hot water after > offering a Groupon deal: they get stuck fulfilling an oversold deal at > a loss. I do wish that Riv had included a few more bucks of profit in > their price; every business needs margin to survive, and I'm sure most > of us would have still made the purchase at $23-25. > > Maybe they could create a catalog item for "margin of goodwill" or > something for folks who would want to go back and chip in a few extra > bucks. Make it six dollars, and three goes to a charity. > > Still watching the mail... > Scott > > > Also, on the pricing, while I sure do appreciate the low price for a DLG > > original print, I cringe when I read that RBW was basically selling them > > below cost to early adopters. I want RBW to stay in business and be > > successful for a LONG TIME yet to come... but how can losing money on > the > > first 640 posters possibly help that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gKMP0OFqRwMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!
Purely as a bystander, I'd say there's not too much risk for you in buying this bike, if you have the cash and are willing to mess with the adjustments (sounds like a shorter stem needed, at least). If after that you find it doesn't work, I don't see how you would lose any money on a resale. You know what they go for. Fix the braze-ons or not, as you please. My two cents. Cheers, Steve On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:29:27 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote: > > Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a > while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps "dreaming" is a > more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an > Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not > without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, > selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue > I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis > forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs: > > Nitto Technomic Stem > Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape > Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes > Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes > Hubs: Phil Wood hubs > Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new) > Sugino XD crankset > Phil Wood BB > Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT > Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model) > Saddle: Brooks premium leather > SKS fenders > > It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a > totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a > 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. > Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the > sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, > this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time > before, but I am really concerned that a 58 would be too big for me to > ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem > and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post > showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with > the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the > seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased > the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross > country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an > issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who > would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it > would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It > actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. > But, it does have "character". So given what I have laid out...am I an > idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, > do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help > a confused brother out here. Thanks All! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nAYHiVZ34vIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Review of "Just Ride."
Patrick, A very sane post, in fact one the sanest I've read on this topic. Thanks, Steve On Friday, June 29, 2012 6:22:13 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I thought the review was on the whole pretty good. "Performance" is of > course very personal; my idea of what a "performance" bike should be > may not be yours. But, let us remember, there are many mansions in the > Kingdom and, more to the point, there are pleasures to be had from a > very light bike that you don't get from a 31 lb bike -- that is simply > a fact to be noted and dealt with as one's tastes decide. Me, I wish > my Fargo with the "light" Sun Rhyno/35 mm Kojak wheelset were no more > than 31 lb; it is prolly closer to 40 with the fat wheelset and full > kit. But it is still immensely fun. OTOH, it is certainly a nice > feeling to climb a hill on the 18 lb gofast. I ride both about > equally. > > And I am hopeful when I hear that his views on CF are out of date: I > wonder how much of the bad news about CF is due, not to the material > but to the stupid-light designs it is used for? > > One other reviewer, less kind, slammed GP for saying you can commute > in "work clothes" up to "10 miles." I am quoting the review, not the > book. I have to agree here: unless your work clothes include a lot of > sweat, you could not commute 10 miles in our summer weather and remain > presentable for work -- even if you kept your speed under 10 mph. > Hills and winds. At any rate, *I* would be sweating like a pig at that > speed and distance wearing khakis or light wools and an ironed button > down. > > Grant has fixations that have become more particular, I think, as he > has gotten older: they seem very much to match the circumstances in > which he rides. Heck if I rode in Walnut Creek and environs, I'd have > kept my Sam HIll. But one can praise him for many things even if one > doesn't agree with it all. > > Patrick "clipless/jersey/lightweight/low(ish) bars/skinny tires on > road/no g-d twine or shellac/no even more g-d tweed/no upright > bars//OTHO//no tight pants/no helmet/no gloves/no > glasses/racks/bags/dyn lights/no endurance and no speed" Moore > > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:07 AM, James Warren > wrote: > > Grant writes a book to promote something to counteract a prevailing > > mentality. The reviewer's review itself has one sentence that shows how > > pervasive that mentality is. The reviewer generally responds positively > to > > Grant's book and offers the following as constructive criticism: > mentioning > > a couple of Grant's points with which he disagrees, the reviewer writes, > "I > > also think the notion of a 31-pound “performance” road bike (that’s how > much > > his personal bike weighs) is ridiculous." > > > > > > > > This tells me that the reviewer has not really gotten the point. I know > the > > word "performance" is in quotes, so I'm not sure how he is defining > > performance. But the phrase "road bike" is not in quotes. The reviewer > > adheres to the idea that one's road ride can be only be high-performance > > when lightness and acceleration are the highest goals. Elsewhere in the > > article, the reviewer says that cycling should be much more. But he > himself > > can't allow the thing called "road riding" to incorporate cycling's > other > > joys. That's a bummer. > > > > > > > > -Jim W. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steven Frederick > > Sent: Jun 28, 2012 4:38 AM > > To: "rbw-owners-bun." > > Subject: [RBW] Review of "Just Ride." > > > > From none other than BIKE magazine, one of the best mtb mags. out > there... > > > > http://www.bikemag.com/news/reviewed-just-ride/ > > > > Steve > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." > > Flannery O'Connor > > - > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > - > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the
[RBW] Re: Poster Progressives-don't do it justice
I agree whole-heartedly with this. Got my poster yesterday. It's just beautiful, I wouldn't expect anyone to be disappointed. Steve On Monday, June 25, 2012 10:24:41 AM UTC-4, Joan wrote: > > I just wanted to comment on the poster progressives - they don't come > close to how good the actual poster is. It's just terrific. > > Joan > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/grM-4cyS5qUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Poster
Thanks for sharing this Zack. I was wondering what DLG would write about this poster, having read his other writings on the poster site. His reference to the Sacramento Bee is cool, since I grew up reading (no delivering) that paper.I have my poster now and can say that no computer image can do it justice. No one who orders one should be disappointed. Steve On Monday, July 2, 2012 2:19:53 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: > > Just got mine today. Love it. Beautiful stuff. > > Also, since I waited for the surprise, I of course now wanted to see it on > the riv site and on the DLG site, and came across the description on the > DLG site of the poster, and loved it, wanted to share: > > *In 1957 I was 12 years old. I had a paper route for the Sacramento Bee; > I had a bicycle; I had money; I had freedom. That's pretty much what the > bicycle meant in the pre-automobile era: freedom. Freedom from parental > supervision, to be precise. Pre-automobile in the 1890s meant that there > weren't any automobiles yet. Pre-automobile in the 1950s meant that you > weren't old enough to drive. When you reached 16 and got your driver's > license, you left your bike to your kid brother and cranked up the family > Ford. Bicycles were children's toys, something you left behind when you > attained a man's estate.* > > *In the 1960s, college students rode bicycles because they were fast, > cheap, and campus parking was free. The bicycle again became a symbol of > youthful exuberance, anti-establishment hipness and freedom, only this time > of freedom from the tyranny and expense of the automobile.* > > *We have become as little children again, riding our bikes and having fun. > * > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7u9esejiJE4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Poster--What to do now that you have it
Given the prices some here are posting, I might have to order the supplies and do it myself. I have an idea of the type of frame I want, so as to compliment the style and period look of the poster. I will probably take it to the framer that I've used before for an estimate. Cheers everyone, Steve On Saturday, June 30, 2012 6:12:09 PM UTC-4, Mike On A Bike wrote: > > I had no idea how (seemingly) crazy expensive pro framing is. I was > quoted $150-300 depending on how fancy by a local frame shop. > > I'd really like to split the middle between museum-quality display and > thumbtacks in the wall... what are the options? I really like > William's idea of frameless mounting on inch thick sturdy stuff. > Anybody have similarly less costly options? > > On Jun 30, 5:47 pm, Kevin Mulcahy wrote: > > I got mine framed and matted. > > > > Semi-fancy frame, colored matte to match the print, UV protectant glass > to > > protect the colors, and a slip on back to house the "info" that came > with > > it. With labor, it came to about $230. > > > > Kevin > > in steamy Humboldt Park, Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rPrlWzj0QtMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Poster--What to do now that you have it
I was at a giant antique mall yesterday, and after I realized that I could look for frames, I was happy to browse while my wife looked for other things. It occurred to me that what I'd like is an oak frame with a "Mission" or "Arts & Crafts" vibe. Didn't find anything yesterday, but who knows? There's a bit of wiggle room on the size, with a custom mat (which it will need anyway). Steve On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 8:46:51 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: > > Mine showed up today. Yeah, it is better than shown on the interweb. > Wasn't sure I'd like it when the first version showed up. But, it's very > good. For some reason, looks like "California" to this person from > fly-over land. It's now in a Target frame on the living room wall. For > anyone who cares, an 18x24 frame works swell. Had to take down the > Rivendell bike model poster to make room. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:57 AM, islaysteve wrote: > >> Given the prices some here are posting, I might have to order the >> supplies and do it myself. I have an idea of the type of frame I want, so >> as to compliment the style and period look of the poster. I will probably >> take it to the framer that I've used before for an estimate. Cheers >> everyone, Steve >> >> >> >> On Saturday, June 30, 2012 6:12:09 PM UTC-4, Mike On A Bike wrote: >>> >>> I had no idea how (seemingly) crazy expensive pro framing is. I was >>> quoted $150-300 depending on how fancy by a local frame shop. >>> >>> I'd really like to split the middle between museum-quality display and >>> thumbtacks in the wall... what are the options? I really like >>> William's idea of frameless mounting on inch thick sturdy stuff. >>> Anybody have similarly less costly options? >>> >>> On Jun 30, 5:47 pm, Kevin Mulcahy wrote: >>> > I got mine framed and matted. >>> > >>> > Semi-fancy frame, colored matte to match the print, UV protectant >>> glass to >>> > protect the colors, and a slip on back to house the "info" that came >>> with >>> > it. With labor, it came to about $230. >>> > >>> > Kevin >>> > in steamy Humboldt Park, Chicago >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rPrlWzj0QtMJ. >> >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/s-FWizCpDcwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Nifty Swiftys
One pair of Nifty Swiftys (650b). These tires have 152 miles on them. Reason for sale: I got a great deal on some Pari Motos and I don't foresee needing the Nifty Swiftys. Also, I need to finance framing for my Poster. How about $55 plus actual shipping? Attentiion East Coasters: I live in Maryland, shipping will be less than to the West Coast. Local delivery to the DC metro area is a possibillity. Please email off-list, I think it will work. If not, respond here. Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/T3UZjIyN3n4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)
My barely-educated guess: mostly the loading on your Bleriot. Then the tires/pressures. I realize that that part is highly debatable. I doubt it's the tubeset, but... Steve On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 5:32:37 PM UTC-4, Joan wrote: > > I led a group ride this morning for one of the local bike clubs. Richard > showed up with his brand new A Homer Hilsen. He's very excited about the > bike, has posted here about his excitement (blueride2). It's a pretty > standard Riv build. I took my Bleriot to the ride - another standard Riv > build. > Differences are: > Bleriot has Hetres (45 front, 50 rear), AHH has Jack Browns (at 70 front > and rear) > Bleriot has SKS fenders, AHH is fenderless (though he is waiting for the > fenders). > Bleriot is a 53, AHH is a 55. > Bleriot has a trunk bag and rack(multi-tool, spare, patch kit) and rack, > AHH had just a tiny seatbag. > > Since I can ride a 55, I took Richard's bike for a short spin. Wow, was I > impressed. It felt - sprightly, lively. Definitely different than the > Bleriot. > > I'm wondering why. There's maybe a slight difference in weight between > the two bikes, by feel. Is it the tires? the tubeset? > Joan > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hQD1TUfqIi0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nifty Swiftys
These tires are no longer available. Thanks for looking, Steve On Saturday, July 7, 2012 5:07:06 PM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote: > > One pair of Nifty Swiftys (650b). These tires have 152 miles on them. > Reason for sale: I got a great deal on some Pari Motos and I don't > foresee needing the Nifty Swiftys. Also, I need to finance framing for my > Poster. How about $55 plus actual shipping? Attentiion East Coasters: > I live in Maryland, shipping will be less than to the West Coast. Local > delivery to the DC metro area is a possibillity. Please email off-list, I > think it will work. If not, respond here. Thanks, Steve > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ypL12GwKV78J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Tire Pressure App
I'll take a look, and I, too will need to wait for the iOS version. Sounds cool, thanks. On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:04:13 PM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote: > > I'll happily pay $2.50 if/when the iOS version comes along. > (Please no Apple flaming. Allan already mentioned that he might do an iOS > version on another list) > > -Pete in CT > > On Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:45:40 PM UTC-4, Allan in Portland wrote: >> >> A little shameless self-promotion. Hope people don't mind... >> >> I suspect a number of the active posters to the list know this >> already, but for newer folks and lurkers, a few years ago Bicycle >> Quarterly published some research conducted by Frank Berto (he was the >> Bicycling mag tech editor, way back when they had tech) that showed >> about a 15% sidewall drop was the optimum trade-off between tires that >> were pumped too hard and would lose energy to road imperfections and >> tires that were too soft and would feel sluggish and be prone to pinch >> flats. >> >> Philip Williamson took the graph from the article and put it into a >> google spreadsheet which he maintained over the years. In a blog post >> he mentioned it would be cool to put it in an App. A friend and I had >> just started a company doing Apps, so we thought it would be a cool >> first project we could knock-out and get our feet wet ahead of >> schedule than what we could do with our original product plans (K-8 ed >> apps if anyone's curious). >> >> We got it posted to the Amazon Marketplace on Monday and I thought >> some folks on this list might find it interesting and/or useful. >> >> Philip's post with some more background on tire inflation: >> >> http://www.biketinker.com/2010/bike-resources/optimal-tire-pressure-for-bicycles/ >> >> Amazon market URL: >> http://www.amazon.com/Edison-Gauss-Publishing-Pressure-Calculator/dp/B008J0YAHM >> >> Google Play URL: >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.edisongauss.bertotirepressure >> >> >> Finally, I feel I must mention a few words about the price. With so >> many free and 99 cent apps, what the heck are we charging $2.50? Well, >> I expect the market for this is going to be rather small. The usual >> approach of giving it away and making it up on ad volume won't work. >> Plus, I hate the ads in so many of the free apps. Not having ad's junk- >> up the screen is worth a couple bucks to me right there. Also, we put >> about as much time into testing this as we did into developing it. >> It's not the typical buggy, crash-prone free App that a lot of guys >> crank out as fast as they can and throw up on Google the first time >> they get something that compiles. Philip did some great work on the >> graphics and IMHO it's an absolute pleasure to look at and use. Is all >> that worth one less pint of a nice micro-brew the next time I'm >> enjoying a post-ride pub stop? I think so. :-) Hope others agree. >> >> Riv content -- Philip and I use it to inflate the tires on our >> Quickbeam & Hilsen respectively. :-) >> >> Thanks and regards, >> -Allan > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UWFmBp3blTwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Niches
Slightly OT, but an observation along the lines of some of the comments on the "Just Ride" review thread. I got a great CL deal on a new Pearl Izumi jacket this weekend. My wife and I took a (car) ride to pick it up. We had both wondered why the guy was selling it so cheaply. (It really was brand new and the price was ridiculously low.) When I came back to the car with the jacket, I told my wife what I had learned: The guy said that he was more into mountain biking anyway. Now this is not a screaming yellow cycling shell, it's a nice sort of Royal blue. Riv content: I have a Bleriot, so it should compliment ; ). A discussion about cyclists and their niches ensued. I'm as susceptible as anyone (here), but sometimes these things seem a bit silly, when you step back a bit. Cheers and stay cool everyone, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KoLnd7LIu-EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's a reasonable price for a used Sam Hillborne?
I assume you've read the information on the Rivendell site about fit, and in particular about the fit of the Sams. Different Riv models have different fit characteristics. Since you're going to see the bike you can check it out for yourself of course. As I recall, the Taiwan-make Sams were the middle sizes and the Waterford-made were the small and large frames. At the time I was wanting a Sam, I would have had to pay quit a premium (to me) to get a 48 (I'm short). Since Riv has the same price on the new blue Sams now regardless of size, I'm assuming they are made in Taiwan. Not that it should matter. Grant has said over and over again that the Taiwan-made frames are just as good (well-made) as the Waterford. I attest that the workmanship on my (Taiwan) Bleriot seems to be very good. I agree with what others have said about price: seems in the ballpark, considering equipment. But another thing that I'd consider is availability in your size. There's not always going to be Riv frame on the used market to fit you, regardless of model. I bought my 51 Bleriot on eBay last year and since that time I've seen precious few Riv frames of any kind that would fit me. So I consider myself fortunate. If you're a middle size, situation will be a little better. Good luck with your looking. As you've probably seen here, most everyone loves their Sams. Steve On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:54:57 AM UTC-4, Ozonation wrote: > > Hi... new here, but was advised over in Bike Forums to check this user > group! I've been seriously considering a Rivendell, and have settled in a > Sam Hillborne. I just came across a 2011 SH model going for about $1600 to > $1700 - supposedly it has low mileage. *Does this price sound reasonable? > Too good to be true?* Even better, the seller is not too far away. If I > manage to check it out, any key things I should be looking for on a used > Rivendell bike to see if its in good shape as claimed? Thanks a lot. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rMIuiidbiI0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: rivendell poster framed
Seth that's very nice. I see that you decided to to use a mat. Looks great! Steve On Friday, July 20, 2012 11:38:15 AM UTC-4, Seth Vidal wrote: > > I just got my poster back from the framers and I thought I'd share > what the framers and I came up with to match the poster: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/7609912320/ > > detail: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/7609916890/ > > > I think it came out great - especially how the frame color matches the > text pretty well. > > Thanks to riv for deciding to do a poster. > > -sv > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JyiR84xE4lYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: rivendell poster framed
My typo, meant to say, decided Not to use a mat. Sorry. On Friday, July 20, 2012 12:20:26 PM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote: > > Seth that's very nice. I see that you decided to to use a mat. Looks > great! Steve > > On Friday, July 20, 2012 11:38:15 AM UTC-4, Seth Vidal wrote: >> >> I just got my poster back from the framers and I thought I'd share >> what the framers and I came up with to match the poster: >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/7609912320/ >> >> detail: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/7609916890/ >> >> >> I think it came out great - especially how the frame color matches the >> text pretty well. >> >> Thanks to riv for deciding to do a poster. >> >> -sv >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M_ILld-EUQ0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I doubt this was a steel bike
Well good for him anyway! Jim, I'm sure that you can fix him up with a suitable replacement. On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:30:55 AM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > http://m.startribune.com/local/?id=164269026&c=y > > This guy works just a few blocks from my shop. I'll be curious to see if > any details emerge, but it SOUNDS like a case of chain suck causing a rear > triangle to break off (or vice versa). I'm guessing he wasn't on a Bombadil > or LHT! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_7x8Rf1n3O4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Old-school 200k Frankfort to the Grand Traverse Light and back
Nice, thanks for posting, Lynne. This is inspirational for a (small-frame) Bleriot owner whose bike is feeling neglected these days! Steve On Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:05:13 PM UTC-4, Lynne Fitz wrote: > > I took Bleriot along on summer vacation in Michigan, and scouted out a new > 281km permanent route. This was old-school - subsisting on food I found > along the way. Given my strangely picky stomach and proclivity to bonk, it > still worked out well, even on such a hot, humid day. Of course, there is > nothing wrong with a root beer float :-) > > Bleriot at Glen Lake: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/7645495628/ > > And a wordier writeup: > http://lynnerides.blogspot.com/2012/07/frankfort-to-grand-traverse-lighthouse.html > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vJqTDhXwZCwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: HOLDSWORTH ???
Nice looking frame. Looks a bit large for me or my daughter, but what is the size? Thanks, Steve On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:19:36 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: > > > I picked up this frame for my wife because it was in such great / new / > can't find a ding scratch etc condition then she decided she wants a betty > foy. > I don't know what it's worth or if anyone would be interested in building > it up.. open for discussion I guess. > > Comes with headset, bottom bracket, stem, and rear derailur > > Kelly > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7708313956/in/photostream > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7708306394/in/photostream/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7708295672/in/photostream > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WH22r4q9VSUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Expensive padding, part 1
Tape sounds interesting, I'm going to check colors. Cheers, Steve On Saturday, August 4, 2012 4:48:24 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Lizard Skins DSP 2.5 mm bar tape: $38 at my LBS and I wondered if this > was a foolish purchase. Well, extravagant, perhaps, but not foolish. > It is better than any other bar tape I've used, not that I am an > expert by any means. Thick enough to provide more comfort than most > other tapes, but not so thick as to feel mushy. "Tacky" and textured > -- your grip feels secure. Long -- no problem wrapping a normal bar > (tho' 48 cm Noodles -- I dunno). It has a small diamond pattern that > feels good and, as for looks, I think it looks rather nice: I got the > bright red. > > Did it fix the numbness/pain problem with the always problematical > outside pad on my left palm? No, but it seems to have mitigated it > slightly compared to other, cheaper and less padded bar tape. > > I don't wear gloves, so I am somewhat particular about my bar tape. > > Next up: Spec Body Geometry shoe inserts. > > -- > "When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville." > > Flannery O'Connor > > - > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > - > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/soYQgvIRZO8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wine Tasting Ride
Thanks for sharing your lovely photos Eric. They make me homesick; I was born in Auburn and my brother lives in Cool. Maybe I can see some of those wineries next year. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A2wZhgaPxhcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Email
Agreed; people seem to want to buy a vintage road frame and convert to SS or FG. $250 for frame + $250 for powder coat, half the price of a SO. IMHO, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CH4pxM5dMRAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis
I have that crank; the recommended BB size is 110. That's what works on my Bleriot, but I have a Shimano BB, not a Phil. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/giAZ7eTFDRsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Bridgestone X0-3 - 55cm top tube
Congrats on the sale. As a matter of interest, would this model make a decent tourer (for a first-time tourist)? My daughter is contemplating touring maybe this summer and I'm keep an eye out for a deal on a frame or bike for her. It looks like this model has potential, from the photo. She's doing fine with my old steel road bike for now, but it won't do for touring. Neither of us can afford to get her an Atlantis! ; ). Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gH8zQYM3PAgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vegas and Death Valley RBW people?
Jim, this may be a little off-topic, but your trip reminded me of a great book, The Other Side of Silence, by Bill Pronzini. Great Death Valley settings. It's a mystery and if like to read, you might enjoy it on your trip. Or if you do audiobooks, you can listen while you ride! Best wishes, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1yBk5r68GXUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam gearing for hills and weak knee?
NickBull: The courage to publish what more that one of us are thinking ; ). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Q0UxY38dDZsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
