[RBW] Re: Minimalist Riding Shoes

[Evan Baird]

I've been trying to get a casual cycling shoe made by these folks out in 
Mariposa. They make really nice moccasins for hunting and renaissance 
faires. I have a pair of the 2 button boots.




http://www.nativearth.net/

I sent a sample pair to Grant Petersen who said they were comfy "but they 
look like pot farmer shoes". 

Maybe if more people express an interest they'll get serious about making a 
shoe that looks like it comes from this millenia.

On Friday, September 13, 2013 3:38:58 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> These might be a good option for someone wanting as little shoe as 
> possible without going barefoot. I'll still ride either barefoot or in my 
> moccasins, but found these great for both my wide feet and running and wet. 
> ZemGear TerraRAZ. http://zemgear.com
>
> Here's my review of them in a minimalist running group:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/huaraches/v32MZUuYz60
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Non-Nitto Front Rack Recommendations

[Evan Baird]

I've been working on a new mini rack for Soma called the Champs Elysee. 
They aren't due in for a couple months, but if you're still in the market 
when they show up you should take a look.


It mounts to the standard Nitto/Riv braze ones, but it'll also include 
p-clamps. The tongue is adjustable so you can make sure the platform is 
level.

On Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:23:22 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> I'm interested in putting a front rack (to be used under a Wald basket) on 
> the front of my Betty Foy. While I love the Nitto racks, I don't have Nitto 
> money.  Can anyone recommend a nice looking, functional front rack that 
> won't add too much bulk/weight to the front end? I'm eyeballing the 
> Velo-Orange Randonneur front rack, but I've not been able to find much 
> written about it online. 
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
>

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[RBW] Re: Northern East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride-- Sunday, October 6th

[Evan Baird]

I'm in.

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[RBW] Re: Northern East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride-- Sunday, October 6th

[Evan Baird]

I think I need to swap my drops for oxfords or wonderbars. The geedoneays 
weren't really cutting it last weekend.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

[Evan Baird]

The seat post clamp is further from the cluster because there's less chance 
of heat distortion at the clamping point. We've seen issues in the past 
with integrated binders that didn't clamp down properly as a result of 
this. If you have adequate standover it shouldn't have an affect your 
saddle position. If you're running a handlebar bag on the bars you'll 
probably want a longer TT with a shorter stem to get everything lined up 
right. If you use an adjustable decaleur like the Berthoud then it doesn't 
really matter. It seems that most of the builds I've seen so far have been 
on the smaller, lower hood position end of the spectrum. A Rivvier rider 
would probably use a larger frame with less ST showing and the bars closer 
to the saddle height. To accommodate a wider range of riders a sloping top 
tube makes a big difference. Since this is undeniably a niche within a 
niche it makes sense to build the bike so that it works for a greater range 
of riders. If horizontal TT and minimal seat post are deal breakers for you 
then you might want to look at a more custom option. Just sayin. I'm sure 
Mike can accommodate.

On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:13:58 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
>
>
> Steve   I say this with light heart  You're missing the point I 
> made. It's not that it does not "have" a liberal HT extension. The point I 
> made was that relative to the ST top  , the frame appears to have *less 
> *ST-HT 
> differential height , making it's no better, if not worse than a "classic" 
> level TT frame with no HT extension.  Most bike are a "plus" in this 
> differential , meaning the top of the HT is higher than the top of the ST.  
> Even a "classic" road frame has some "plus".  This appears to have "minus", 
> and that I do find strikingly odd. Hence, the "track bike" reference, where 
> this "may" be a good quality. 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

[Evan Baird]

If anybody cares Nitto has a 280mm version of the Technomics quill 
available now. That should be more than enough rise for just about any 
build.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/internet-bob/qXP5MLcLIFs

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:49:43 AM UTC-8, NickBull wrote:
>
> Garth,
>
> You are hypothesizing and coming to incorrect conclusions.
>
> On my built-up GR, the top of the seat tube is 3/4" lower than the top of 
> the head tube.  Plus the steerer is cut pretty long so you need a 3/4" 
> stack of spacers between the top of the headset bearing race and the top 
> nut.  It's a threaded steerer, so there's no "uncut steerer" involved.  I 
> put this in front of a door in my basement that conveniently has a 
> horizontal molding that provides a level that's approximately at the top of 
> the head tube.
>
> I'm slightly embarassed to say that I just moved all the parts directly 
> over from my current primary randonneuring bike without even cleaning them 
> up.  Partly that's just because I wanted to get this built up faster so I 
> can start riding it, but I also consider the slight amount of dirt that 
> doesn't affect function to be a form of beausage--it's a reflection of the 
> thousands of miles that my '84 Trek 610 was ridden.  Maybe I'll give all 
> the parts a good wash some time and take snazzier photos.
>
> I went on a ride on the GR last night and it felt great.  The frame 
> disappeared under me and the miles melted away.  Well, to be more precise, 
> I rode down the block and back, it was freezing cold out and I didn't 
> bother to put on gloves, jacket, or even socks.  But the frame did feel 
> nice :-)
>
> To add a bit of Riv content to this message:  the GR is parked next to my 
> orange Ram.
>
> Nick
>
> On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:13:58 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>> Steve   I say this with light heart  You're missing the point I 
>> made. It's not that it does not "have" a liberal HT extension. The point I 
>> made was that relative to the ST top  , the frame appears to have *less 
>> *ST-HT 
>> differential height , making it's no better, if not worse than a "classic" 
>> level TT frame with no HT extension.  Most bike are a "plus" in this 
>> differential , meaning the top of the HT is higher than the top of the ST.  
>> Even a "classic" road frame has some "plus".  This appears to have "minus", 
>> and that I do find strikingly odd. Hence, the "track bike" reference, where 
>> this "may" be a good quality. 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: BLUG bike

[Evan Baird]

Proper!

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[RBW] Re: Not Riv, exactly...

[Evan Baird]

>
> What angles? Tires? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Not Riv, exactly...

[Evan Baird]

Are you getting a custom fork too?

On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:33:53 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> 73.5 degree seattube, 18" chainstays, 2 degree top tube slope, designed 
> for 650b x 55 with fenders, canti brakes.
>
> Designed as a porteur style, front rack designed to be broadsheet sized 
> and designed to carry 50kg.
>
> cc
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Evan Baird 
> > wrote:
>
>> What angles? Tires? 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Mt Diablo Sunday ride

[Evan Baird]

The riding was really nice on Sunday. I got to go up and ride the ridge 
line in Tilden. Just gorgeous.

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Evan Baird]

Don't compare New Albion to Rivendell. They're really not in the same league. 
Feel free to compare them to Surly, VO, Public and the like though.

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[RBW] Re: Soma Oxford vs. Nitto Albatross

[Evan Baird]

It's worth noting the Nitto comes in a steel version, which the Soma 
doesn't. Probably won't matter for road riding, but for gravel/single track 
it makes a big difference.

On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:42:24 AM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> Thanks for this, Scot! The Albatrosses look to be a bit wider, but not so 
> much that they'd make a huge difference. 
>
> On Monday, February 24, 2014 2:29:13 AM UTC-8, Scot Brooks wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cecily,
>> Here's what 
>> flickrhad 
>> to offer for the comparison. They really are remarkably similar, even 
>> near-as-makes-no-difference. We carry both in the shop where I work and I 
>> really can't tell if there's a difference when I hold the two up to each 
>> other. I've got the Somas on my bike and they're great, but nothing like 
>> the Nitto in terms of finish. Not even close.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

[Evan Baird]

Just posted another build up here.

http://newalbioncycles.blogspot.com/2014/02/privateer-build-for-gravelbikecom.html?m=1

In all honesty, the Privateer is identical to the Pake C'mute, with a few 
little tweaks that make it more versatile, lighter giving. I actually owe a 
C'mute, and its a fine bike, but I think most would agree these look nicer.

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Re: [RBW] New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

[Evan Baird]

Just posted another build up here.
http://newalbioncycles.blogspot.com/2014/02/privateer-build-for-gravelbikecom.html?m=1

In all honesty, the Privateer is identical to the Pake C'mute, with a few 
little tweaks that make it more versatile, and lighter tubing. I actually owen 
a C'mute, and its a fine bike, but I think most would agree these look nicer.

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Re: [RBW] New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

[Evan Baird]

Just posted another build up here.
http://newalbioncycles.blogspot.com/2014/02/privateer-build-for-gravelbikecom.html?m=1

In all honesty, the Privateer is identical to the Pake C'mute, with a few 
little tweaks that make it more versatile, and lighter tubing. I actually owen 
a C'mute, and its a fine bike, but I think most would agree these look nicer.

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Re: [RBW] New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

[Evan Baird]

On a related note,Google groups is basically unusable without a mechanical 
keyboard.

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Re: [RBW] New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

[Evan Baird]

I've tried that before, but it's too much to keep track of. I have a 
tendency to get sucked down the as it is, and it's just too much temptation.

On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:29:05 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> get the msgs delivered as email. I am reading this. I am reading this on a 
> rooted nook simple touch and you don't get a much worse touch screen than 
> this. K9 is my mail reader and opera mini the browser.
>
> Joe Bernard > wrote:
>>
>> Ain't *that* the truth. My attempts to do anything with it via 
>> smartphone touchscreen have been maddening. 
>>  
>> Joe Bernard
>> Vallejo, CA.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:01:59 PM UTC-8, Evan Baird wrote:
>>
>>> On a related note,Google groups is basically unusable without a 
>>> mechanical keyboard.
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

[Evan Baird]

I prefer downtube shifters over all other styles. They're easy to maintain, 
and they don't get in the way. The fact they're relatively cheap is a bonus.

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[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

[Evan Baird]

My buddy Will used to run friction with an Alfine hub on his 650b Vaya. 
Said it worked ok. Seems sketchy to me though.

On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:07:52 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> Since we're talking friction-shifting, I thought I'd ask again (cuz I do 
> this periodically): Anyone have any success friction-shifting an 
> internal-geared hub?  Yes yes, I know about potentially damaging the 
> internals if you're not quite 'in-gear', but I'd really like to figure out 
> a way to do this safely.   If you think about it, we get familiar enough 
> with friction-shifting derailleurs on feel alone, such that we never really 
> have to look down to know we've shifted into the right gear. Can we not get 
> the same kind of 'feel' from an IG hub, even if it requires over-shifting, 
> then settling back squarely onto the cog, so to speak???  
>
> There are some IG hubs (like the SRAM/Sachs Spectro and Dual Drive hubs) 
> that use a 'click box' with a push rod to 'switch' into the next 
> gear...(which I believe is different from moving the planetary gears 
> directly via cable movement, but I could be mistaken). The push-rod 
> mechanism seems almost like it's (in essence) already indexed within the 
> hub, and the cable movement via the clickbox merely causes the next shift. 
>  If this is the case, I suppose the between-gear problem could potentially 
> be a non-issue (than say with other types of IG hubs like the Alfine or 
> Nexus)... You just move the cable enough to force the next shift, and then 
> let up slightly??  Any insights from the Engineers/Intellectuals/Crazies in 
> this group whether this makes any sense?
>
> Maybe I should just do like the Mythbusters and go for it, risking life 
> and limb in the interest of bicycle science...
>
> BB
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Friday, February 28, 2014 1:28:05 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Update:
>>
>> I called RBW and they said it would definitely help to go to 8 speed 
>> cassette over the 9peed.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Evolution of your bike preference?

[Evan Baird]

Mongoose BMX bikes > Schwinn hardtail > Specialized CrMo single speed > 
Ironhorse long travel hardtail > KHS OX steel hardtail single speed 
conversion > Specialized fixed gear > Surly Cross Check w/ Albatross bars > 
Steamroller with mustachio bars > Soma ES w drops and friction shifters > 
Origin 8 single speed > Suly 1x1 rigid > Traitior fixed gear porteur > Pake 
C'mute w/ guido levers > self built fillet brazed 650b low trail thingy 
(but I haven't built it up yet). I probably left out a few...

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[RBW] Re: New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

[Evan Baird]

More pictures!

On Friday, February 28, 2014 4:53:32 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> Rode the Privateer about 20 miles today. It seems similar or better in 
> terms of overall riding experience to my Rambouillets, Bleriots, and Gunnar 
> Sport. I'd bet if you could ride it blindfolded and the others too, you'd 
> be hard pressed to pick a winner. Now I know about lugs and aesthetics and 
> their value and their cost. This one, in my opinion, spells big big bang 
> for the bucks. It looks good too.
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:26:46 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> Came out of the carton looking good. Built up well. Post modern combo of 
>> parts. It is raining today, but I got in a short ride. While this thing 
>> weighs about the same at 25 lbs as the Cannondale I discussed a few weeks 
>> ago, it rides like sveltish upright cruiser. I am pleasantly surprised by 
>> the nice steel springiness.
>> Albatross
>> Thomson X4 stem
>> Tiagra Hollowtech triple crank
>> 11-34 XT 9 cassette
>> 28 hole, Ultegra Open Pro
>> 700 x 25 tires (for now)
>> VO post
>> B17 saddle
>> Tektro 720 cantis
>> Bacchetta brake levers left over from bent days
>> Shimano 9 speed barcons
>> Wellgo dual purpose pedals
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

[Evan Baird]

It varies. We started with the headtube and seatube values and made it 
work. 

On Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:21:24 PM UTC-8, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> Looks great, I hadn't thought of it for an upright build.
>
> Evan, Do you know what the top tube slope is on the Privateer?
>
> -Dave
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: You know you are riding in San Francisco when

[Evan Baird]

That cycle truck is wicked!

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[RBW] Re: Compass 26" tire vs. Soma New Express 26" tire.

[Evan Baird]

The Soma has a hypertex layer. Perhaps that makes it less supple. I 
certainly have no idea.

http://www.panaracer.com/technologies.php

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:26:05 PM UTC-7, Clayton wrote:
>
> I just did a picture comparison between the two. They have exactly the 
> same tread. Both are made in Japan. Both claim low rolling resistance. 
> Soma's are cheaper by about ten to 20 bucks and come in terracotta and 
> cream as well as black. I think Compass tires and the Somas are the same 
> tire, made by Panaracer. Does anyone know for sure?
> The terra cotta would look groovy on my olive green Atlantis.;)
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[RBW] Re: Better brakes for canti-Saluki?

[Evan Baird]

I'm still loving the Rivendell Ribbits. I never have to toe them.

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[RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

[Evan Baird]

Not to beat a dead horse, but there are several solutions which allow you 
to mount the light the right way up. Wouldn't you want to light positioned 
further forward anyway?

http://harriscyclery.net/product/m.a.p.-fender-mount-for-headlight-3607.htm

http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-341/Light-Bracket-for-Edelux/Detail

http://shop.boxdogbikes.com/products/bdb-handmade-light-mount

http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/wingmann-light-mount

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[RBW] Re: New Albion on SF CL?

[Evan Baird]

Overall not a bad looking build. I can't get into the mini-v brakes though.

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[RBW] Re: Riv-esque Bike shops in Portland?

[Evan Baird]

Velo Cult? I have yet to visit, but it looks like that type of spot. I've 
always stopped by Citybikes when I've visited. That's a pretty neat shop.

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:21:55 PM UTC-7, Skip Richmond wrote:
>
> Where are the box dog bikes of multnomah county?
> the american cyclerys of the river city?
> the hand-made leather-bound bridge-city bag n racks?
>
> i ain't talkin this portland design works chump-swag
> i'm talking the real deal, hand-hammered, nickel-plated good stuff.
>
> tired of relying on mail order from riv, let me know where i can pick up 
> an xd-2 and some brass ferrules.
>
> see you in the extra-wide bike lanes,
> skip
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[RBW] Re: Poll: What are your single speed gears?

[Evan Baird]

I've been running a 94mm 34/16 gearing, but just converted it to 1x9 with a 
Riv 9 speed cassette. Still technically a single speed til I connect the 
derailleur cable. My 1X1 is standard 32/16.

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[RBW] Re: New Albion on SF CL?

[Evan Baird]

I'm sure they work fine, they just don't suit my aesthetic sensibilities. 
The Pauls on the other hand I will happily take as long as I don't have to 
pay.

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:45:35 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:31:25 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote:
>>
>> Overall not a bad looking build. I can't get into the mini-v brakes 
>> though.
>>
>  
> Why not? when I had a cross bike with Campy ergo shifter and tried using a 
> pair of NOS Suntour XC Pro canti brakes with it the results were 
> awful.  Could never get them to work properly. I tried KS salmon pads, and 
> adjusted it for what seemed like forever. All I got was brake squeal and/or 
> shudder. Terrible.  
>  
> On advice of a friend, I put on a cheapie Tektro 926al mini-v brake in the 
> front  and wham - it was like night and day! The brake stop perfectly with 
> no squeal or shudder. And this was with the stock black pads that came with 
> the brake. Also, had no problem working with the Campy ergo lever. 
>  
> Now, some could argue that what I really needed was a fork mounted brake 
> cable hanger instead of the one that hanged off the top of the headset. 
> That may be true, but at that time I didn't know about this hanger, so the 
> mini-v was the solution. At about $20 (or less if you go on the internet), 
> it was well worth the cost and far superior to the lousy Suntour canti 
> brake. 
>  
> Of course, YMMVGood Luck! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Evan Baird]

There is a reason the Fatty Rumpkin forcefield tires are made as burly as 
they make them.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Evan Baird]

Just fill your Schwalbes with helium. I heard that works really well.

On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:45:19 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> We need one special tire, forged deep in the heart of a volcano. A tire 
> that is supple, fast, flatproof, quiet, cheapONE TIRE TO RULE THEM ALL!
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Coconutbill 
> > wrote:
>
>> well spoken, Larry.
>> that's what I was trying at.
>>
>> -evan
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[RBW] Re: IRD super compact double now (nearly) available 94mm BCD

[Evan Baird]

I'm pretty excited about these. I've been running the Mjolnir cranks as a 
1x9 with a Riv 9spd cassette, and so far so good. It will be nice to have a 
bit more on the top end though.



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[RBW] Re: IRD super compact double now (nearly) available 94mm BCD

[Evan Baird]

It's possible, but you'll end up with a wider Q factor since they were 
designed around a mountain chain line with extra stay clearance.

On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:44:46 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> Evan, have you or anyone tried running double rings on the Mjolnir crank 
> arms?  There was some discussion about that originally. Those look very 
> nice and could be a bigger seller if they could fit two rings.
>
> ~mike
> Carlsbad Ca
>
> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:02:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote:
>>
>> I'm pretty excited about these. I've been running the Mjolnir cranks as a 
>> 1x9 with a Riv 9spd cassette, and so far so good. It will be nice to have a 
>> bit more on the top end though.
>>
>>
>> <https://scontent-b-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1186878_10100373239601878_905221704_n.jpg>
>>
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[RBW] Re: IRD super compact double now (nearly) available 94mm BCD

[Evan Baird]

Actually he does have a point when it comes to the finish. This one is 
pre-production so it's not polished correctly. No classy coat of arm 
neither.

On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:15:50 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Those of us who like 46/30 will be happy at this:
>
> IRD is making a new model of their Defiant crankset on the old standard 
> 94mm BCD.  It comes with 46/30 rings and is fairly affordable.  
>
> 
>
>
> Boulder is doing a presale for $159.  It's great to have another option.  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad

[Evan Baird]

That's pretty typical of Panaracer's casing. I've found I need to give 
myself a bit of extra clearance when I set up fenders with a new set of 
tires or they'll start to rub after a couple weeks.

On Friday, April 4, 2014 7:47:23 AM UTC-7, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>
> Yeah, I was far too premature in my whining about the Barlows not being a 
> "true" 38mm tire. That's awesome that they've filled out and ride 
> fantastically! I'll be mounting a pair once I leave my glass-strewn 
> southern city for the PNW!
>
> On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 2:30:08 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>
>> Followup, I followed Rob's pressure seating technique and they have, 
>> indeed, grown to nearly the book size, coming up at 37mm and change. As I 
>> may have mentioned before, I'm not miffed or disappointed necessarily, and 
>> now that I know it's a bit of a black art it makes total sense. I should 
>> also mention that they ride great and look spiffy.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:46 PM, rperks  wrote:
>>
>>> Chris,
>>> I am not sure how much these have plumped up for you since install, 
>>> hopefully a bit more.  One thing I have done out of habit is inflate them 
>>> up to about 100PSI or so and let it sit over night.  This works 90% or more 
>>> of the stretch in and also seats the rim tape nicely on fresh builds.  We 
>>> ran into similar feedback on the C-Lines and as with Jan's mentioned black 
>>> art to the making process, there is even a mm or so of variation throughout 
>>> the tire run.  So if a wide set ends up on some A23 rims they met be the 
>>> full 38mm while a narrow set on open pro rims may measure 35-36mm 
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:01:06 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>>
 Measures out to 34mm right now, but that might change.

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[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain

[Evan Baird]

All I can say is I've saving my pennies for one of these.



http://www.paulcomp.com/chainkeepers.html

I've had my chain come off so many times in the last couple weeks and it's 
driving me bonkers.

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[RBW] Re: Does anyone use fenders off road?

[Evan Baird]

I have run both steel and plastic fenders offroad, and have yet to get into 
any serious trouble. You definitely need to be cognizant of how much 
clearance you have to avoid picking up debris. I probably wouldn't run 
knobbies with fenders. Too much danger of them pulling up a rock or 
something and getting lodged. Right now I'm using the Soma Rain Dogs, with 
the expectation that if somthing does get stuck they'll probably break 
apart rather than damage my frame/fork.



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[RBW] Re: Jamboree Ride Recon: 680 Trail

[Evan Baird]

You put those Hetres through their paces!

On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:47:28 AM UTC-7, Irving (boyzonthehoods.com) 
wrote:
>
> Really fun ride that was lead by Manny. Definitely did some underbiking 
> this weekend...
>
> Route GPS files proved that the NSA is probably tracking our bike 
> movements: http://www.strava.com/activities/127682893
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[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain

[Evan Baird]

I stopped by the freewheel on Saturday and picked up a Paul chain keeper. It 
makes a huge difference. With a 34t chainring and the Riv 12-34 cassette I have 
a totally reasonable range, and no more spontaneous derailments.

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[RBW] Re: Going main stream or is that main street.

[Evan Baird]

It makes sense now that a lot of them are stocking surly complete bikes.

On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:34:13 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Well it looks like Grant and company have done such a good job promoting 
> camping & bicycling that someone took notice. 
>
>
> http://www.rei.com/h/bikepacking?cm_mmc=email_com_gm-_-bikepacking-_-042314-_-cta_bikepacking&RMID=20140423_Bikepacking_SL1&RRID=2553353&ev11=1&ev36=NULL
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> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

[Evan Baird]

Like it was made for em.

On Friday, April 25, 2014 10:53:16 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Jim-
>
> Seems like a small thing to get so offended by.  However, I was in your 
> shoes when I picked up my '97 Rivendell Road.  Riv Catalog 3 (1997) states 
> that the Riv Road has clearance for 700x35c tires, but mine barely clears a 
> 700x28c tire, with about 1 mm to spare under the brake bridge and fork 
> crown.
>
> I was kinda disappointed to miss out on all this "fluffy-yet-fast wide 
> tires" thing that Riv folks were so excited about.  
>
> But, the intervening years since my Riv's creation have produced some 
> alternative solutions.  650b wheels, tires, and long-reach sidepulls are 
> now easily available.  I converted my Riv Road to 650b, and now it fits a 
> 38mm wide tire and full fenders.  It has a great, comfy ride that feels 
> wonderful, yet it's not appreciably slower than with larger diameter 
> 700x28c.
>
> I'm not sure if Riv's specifications were slightly optimistic, if it's the 
> difference in tires since then, or what.  It was frustrating to find out my 
> Riv is a bit of a "lemon", but it's made some excellent lemonade!
>
> And it's really made me want an Atlantis or Hunq for fat 700c tire 
> touring...
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Cyclofiend Jim 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Jim - 
>>
>> I have to say that I'm not really following your point. Certainly, it's 
>> got to be frustrating to purchase something that doesn't do what you hoped 
>> it would.  But, I'm not sure how you get from a 15 year old archived web 
>> page to losing trust in Rivendell.  Second to that, tire profiles have 
>> changed a bit in the ensuing time frame.  More round now, more larger sizes 
>> now.  And every rim makes a tire sit a bit differently.  
>>
>> With a couple of google stabs, I found several ref's to folks selling 
>> Heron roads (not sure on the model years), describing tire clearances that 
>> ran from 28 to 38.  Enough that it would have caused concern enough to 
>> confirm with the seller.
>>
>> Heron was spun off from Rivendell long ago.  Different models, different 
>> owner, a different company.
>>
>> Sorry to hear you had a bad outcome, but I don't think it's particularly 
>> appropriate to draw a far-reaching conclusion about trust from those data 
>> points.
>>
>> - Jim
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[RBW] Re: What's the real San Marcos tire/fender combo clearance?

[Evan Baird]

The 650b will fit at least a 38mm. The 700c should fit Jack Browns at least 
and maybe some 35mm. I personally feel like the 700c should have more 
clearance than they do, but but it's not my call to make.

On Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:31:38 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote:
>
> It's a bit vague on the Riv site and on the Soma site, so I'm hoping to 
> hear from those who've actually tried the combo I'd like (it's what's 
> holding me up on ordering a frame). Fingers crossed, it can squeeze some 
> Jack Browns and 45mm aluminum fenders. Does it work? Worst case, I'd be 
> happy with Ruffy Tuffys and 37mm aluminum fenders, so if that's the combo 
> you run and it's good-but-tight I'd love to hear from you too.
>
>  I would call Riv and ask them, but this is a case where I'd be ordering 
> wholesale from Merry Sales through my shop and I don't want to take up 
> their time on a non-direct sale. For the record, I bought my Sam fair and 
> square direct from Riv so I am a bonified customer, just not for this 
> theoretical bike. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the real San Marcos tire/fender combo clearance?

[Evan Baird]

It's not really our call.

On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:38:26 PM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> Scot, sorry the Trim Line is a 650b tire, my girlfriend rides a 51cm. 
> I forgot the 700c version has tighter clearances per the specs. 
>
> I agree with Evan that it's sad the 700c Soma San Marcos isn't 
> designed to fit the 38mm Soma C-line. I also find it sad the front and 
> rear clearances aren't very well balanced on my girlfriends San 
> Marcos. The rear is at the bottom of the brake slots, while the front 
> is slightly above the midpoint of the slots. Maybe SOMA could address 
> those issues in future production runs. 
>
> On 5/5/14, Evan Baird > wrote: 
> > The 650b will fit at least a 38mm. The 700c should fit Jack Browns at 
> least 
> > 
> > and maybe some 35mm. I personally feel like the 700c should have more 
> > clearance than they do, but but it's not my call to make. 
> > 
> > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:31:38 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: 
> >> 
> >> It's a bit vague on the Riv site and on the Soma site, so I'm hoping to 
> >> hear from those who've actually tried the combo I'd like (it's what's 
> >> holding me up on ordering a frame). Fingers crossed, it can squeeze 
> some 
> >> Jack Browns and 45mm aluminum fenders. Does it work? Worst case, I'd be 
> >> happy with Ruffy Tuffys and 37mm aluminum fenders, so if that's the 
> combo 
> >> 
> >> you run and it's good-but-tight I'd love to hear from you too. 
> >> 
> >>  I would call Riv and ask them, but this is a case where I'd be 
> ordering 
> >> wholesale from Merry Sales through my shop and I don't want to take up 
> >> their time on a non-direct sale. For the record, I bought my Sam fair 
> and 
> >> 
> >> square direct from Riv so I am a bonified customer, just not for this 
> >> theoretical bike. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the real San Marcos tire/fender combo clearance?

[Evan Baird]

We have to get permission from RBW before we can change anything on the San 
Marcos. I've made a few requests but so far the answer has been no.

On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:38:26 PM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> Scot, sorry the Trim Line is a 650b tire, my girlfriend rides a 51cm. 
> I forgot the 700c version has tighter clearances per the specs. 
>
> I agree with Evan that it's sad the 700c Soma San Marcos isn't 
> designed to fit the 38mm Soma C-line. I also find it sad the front and 
> rear clearances aren't very well balanced on my girlfriends San 
> Marcos. The rear is at the bottom of the brake slots, while the front 
> is slightly above the midpoint of the slots. Maybe SOMA could address 
> those issues in future production runs. 
>
> On 5/5/14, Evan Baird > wrote: 
> > The 650b will fit at least a 38mm. The 700c should fit Jack Browns at 
> least 
> > 
> > and maybe some 35mm. I personally feel like the 700c should have more 
> > clearance than they do, but but it's not my call to make. 
> > 
> > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:31:38 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: 
> >> 
> >> It's a bit vague on the Riv site and on the Soma site, so I'm hoping to 
> >> hear from those who've actually tried the combo I'd like (it's what's 
> >> holding me up on ordering a frame). Fingers crossed, it can squeeze 
> some 
> >> Jack Browns and 45mm aluminum fenders. Does it work? Worst case, I'd be 
> >> happy with Ruffy Tuffys and 37mm aluminum fenders, so if that's the 
> combo 
> >> 
> >> you run and it's good-but-tight I'd love to hear from you too. 
> >> 
> >>  I would call Riv and ask them, but this is a case where I'd be 
> ordering 
> >> wholesale from Merry Sales through my shop and I don't want to take up 
> >> their time on a non-direct sale. For the record, I bought my Sam fair 
> and 
> >> 
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> >> theoretical bike. 
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[RBW] Re: Riv's love child - new build

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Looks great! How the steering with those swept back bars.

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[RBW] Re: eCLEM

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When I first saw the geometry for these I figured that was Riv's plan all 
along. It makes perfect sense. The ebike commuter market in California is 
set to grow far in excess of the rest of the bike industry combined, and 
there bikes are loads more appealing to the target demographics (aka non 
spandorks).

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[RBW] Re: Question about Gramicci Rockin Sport Pants given MUSA production hiatus

[Evan Baird]

I used to be a hardcore Gramicci fan when I was primarily a mountainbiker. 
Once I started commuting more I always caught the pant legs and tore them 
up in the chain. So now I only buy bargain basement Levis from Ross.

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[RBW] Re: Getting the message out.

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Regardless of whether Bobbishness is a movement already, it needs to become 
one if we want to grow the cycling community. The bicycle advocacy world is 
primarily funded by lycra wearing, charity rider types (primarily white 
dudes if we're going by the numbers). This is a huge problem, especially 
since the vast majority of potential transportation cyclists are low income 
people of color, many of which primarily speak languages other than English 
and don't participate in the "bike community'. That means that the policies 
that affect transportation cyclists are frequently being decided by people 
who don't really understand the needs of road users that don't fit their 
idea of "cyclists". I'm not suggesting a bike industry conspiracy, but 
rather a confirmation bias that makes bicycles less accessible. Part of 
making cycling accessible is embracing riders who don't fall into the 
typical bike shop genres, and very probably won't ever step foot into one 
due to the condescending, profit driven mentality of the bike industry. As 
long as bike shops are the primary point of contact for new cyclists, we 
need to forcefully shift the narrative towards a culture that embraces 
cargo bikes, and ebikes and adaptive bikes and upright bikes. It's not 
academic. If we want safe roads, and bicycle facilities there needs to be 
real money to back up our demands. The auto and oil industries spend 
upwards of 50 million dollars a year to push pro driving policies.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Getting the message out.

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Peter, that's already happening. The problem is that the traditional LBS model 
is failing, and moat comminities don't have access to coop workspaces. As a 
"veteran" shop rat, I have a dewp affection for the LBS and the culture 
surrounding it, but I've also seen first hand how the chevanism, zenophobia and 
elitism that people encounter in many shops can turn them away from the 
"sport". Those of us who are deciples of Sheldon will get along regardless, but 
the average dealer isn't going to be able to compete with ecommerce. If the 
industry insists of pushing products that are increasingly not user servicable 
we're going to see a lot more Circut Cities and Comp USAs in the bike world. 
Shops need to be welcoming community spaces. There'sno room for mediocre 
service in this economy.

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[RBW] Re: eCLEM

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For the record, I'm keeping it all organic until my shitty joints finally crap 
out.

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[RBW] Re: Wald Basket??

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I've also seen them mounted up with copper wire. I havent tried it myself, but 
it looks dope.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Getting the message out.

[Evan Baird]

This is exaclty what I'm talking about. I've always pushed Soma to keep their 
web pricing comparable to brick and mortar, but as more and more people sign up 
for Amazon Prime it's really a race to the bottom. Any publiclly held bike 
company that doesnt offer direct sales is going to get an earful when Canyon 
starts moving big numbers. And even if brand try to enforce MAP that doesnt 
prevent startups like Casper and Harrys from spinning up buissnesses to compete 
with in product catagory they think they have an edge in.

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[RBW] Re: Wald Basket??

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The Soma rack has zip tie mounting holes. It's been my experience that it's 
the sliding around that causes zip ties to fail. Of course I usually just 
put on a crap ton to be safe.

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[RBW] Re: Getting the message out.

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Since we're talking about regional issues, I can give an example from the 
bay area of how this stuff plays out. SF, as must people are aware, is no 
longer affordable by any definition, so the majority of working class folks 
live across the bay. The Golden Gate Bridge has a bike lane, so plenty of 
people commute to work by bike in the morning. The Bay Bridge does not have 
a bike lane, and probably won't get one for at least 10 years. That means 
if you work in SF you either take bart (which is nearly impossible with a 
bike unless you live out in the burbs) or ride a bus (which means crossing 
your fingers and hoping there's space on the front rack) or ride a ferry 
which costs twice as much. There is a special bike shuttle, but the point 
is there are way more barriers to entry if you live in the historically low 
income areas. The only reason this has improved at all is because we have 
kick ass advocacy groups that fight for bicycle access, and the only reason 
they are able to do that is because they raise a lot of money.

Now I don't mean to point any fingers, but when you compare the 
infrastructure development in the wealthy parts of SF to the poorer 
neighborhoods in the southeast SF, you can see who is getting the majority 
of the infrastructure improvements. But if you never go to those areas, 
because you live in a nice part of town so why would you, you'll never 
realize that there are a lot of people who are at risk riding there. Those 
neighborhoods have been neglected due to a lack of anybody with clout 
speaking up about it, and that prevents people that live there from taking 
up bicycle commuting. The office jockey who only rides his road bike on the 
weekends is not going to throw a fit about unsafe rush hour traffic on 
Monday morning, but statistically he is the person that the policy makers 
will here from as he's more likely to write a big check. When people talk 
about the bike lanes of gentrification this is exactly what they mean.

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Re: [RBW] Re: eCLEM

[Evan Baird]

That's good to know, although I doubt I'd be able to afford that kind of 
surgery (I work for republicans after all).

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 2:39:41 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 06/02/2016 05:30 PM, Evan Baird wrote: 
> > For the record, I'm keeping it all organic until my shitty joints 
> finally crap out. 
> > 
>
> Even when they do, prosthetics don't require electric powered bicycles 
> (having half an artificial knee I can speak with personal knowledge on 
> this subject).  Actually most everyone I know using e-bikes has either 
> blocked coronary arteries or a heart damaged by an MI.  That could just 
> be the demographic I hang out with, though... 
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Re: [RBW] Re: eCLEM

[Evan Baird]

Unfortunately it's probably going to be a lot sooner than that. I'm almost 
a cripple as it is. But hand cycles are cool!

On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 12:34:11 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> When you're old enough to actually need a knee replacement (or, for that 
> matter, a coronary by-pass) you'll probably be on Medicare.
>
> On 06/07/2016 01:58 PM, Evan Baird wrote:
>
> That's good to know, although I doubt I'd be able to afford that kind of 
> surgery (I work for republicans after all).
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 2:39:41 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
>>
>>
>> On 06/02/2016 05:30 PM, Evan Baird wrote: 
>> > For the record, I'm keeping it all organic until my shitty joints 
>> finally crap out. 
>> > 
>>
>> Even when they do, prosthetics don't require electric powered bicycles 
>> (having half an artificial knee I can speak with personal knowledge on 
>> this subject).  Actually most everyone I know using e-bikes has either 
>> blocked coronary arteries or a heart damaged by an MI.  That could just 
>> be the demographic I hang out with, though... 
>>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

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I've been riding back to back rake comparisons for the last 2 years, and 
the conclusion I've come to is you'll probably get used to whatever you 
ride the most. IF you always carry stuff on your bike, and IF you prefer to 
keep it within reach, and IF you need to take your hands off the bars often 
then go for it. That said, I ride my Stag without a handlebar bag and it's 
fine. I ride the high trail bike with a handlebar bag and pannier and it's 
fine. I can ride them both no hands. It is a bit easier with the low trail, 
but there are so many variables that you'd need a ven diagram to quantify 
it all. The one thing that I feel pretty confident about is that I prefer 
the slacker head tube for dirt, regardless of the trail. I can't justify 
that with any data though.

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[RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

[Evan Baird]

I'm delighted by all the roadies buying 25c tires like they're going to 
have this religions experience or somthing. I just kind of sneer and 
explain that I never ride anything under 38mm.

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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

[Evan Baird]

Do you know the axle to crown length for the Atlantis forks? I want to try to 
get a batch of 50 or so 26er conversions made, but I wasnt sure if those were 
shorter/longer than the OX1s. I realize that it's probably not a sustainable 
product, but there seems to be more Atlanti owners who have/want to experiment 
with this. Otherwise I was just going to get 1 1/8 for the LHT/Saga

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[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?

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That's why this exists.



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[RBW] Rich's Horsie

[Evan Baird]

http://somafab.blogspot.com/2016/06/hands-on-wheels-x-rivendell-appaloosa.html



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[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos questions....

[Evan Baird]

There are a few frames left, except no 51cm

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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos questions....

[Evan Baird]

The SM costs about twice what it should because it's sold through IBDs. If it 
was made by a company that only sold to consumers it would have been a home run 
I'm certain.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos questions....

[Evan Baird]

I suspect it had somthing to do with the butt ugly forks they originally 
came with. And not having front rack mounts. And not having decent tire 
clearance. And not being low trail or planing. And generally being overly 
"girly" looking.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos questions....

[Evan Baird]

Isn't Rivendell technically the Bikes Direct Grant Designs? I know they have 
more dealers now, but it's been mail order since day 1. Don't get me wrong, the 
San Marcos rides great imo, but the Bleriot was like 95% perfect and I for one 
was really disappointed that they didn't just re-relase it and just add more 
fork eyelets. My assumption is that it was intened to fill several gaps in the 
Riv line without cannibalizing any of their other models, but what Riv customer 
is going to want to be stuck running 33mm tires with barely any fender 
clearance. For that matter, why would you use "lightweight" tubing just to slap 
on a second top tube? If it's just for looks then fine, but using heavier 
tubing and just having the one makes a lot more sense.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos questions....

[Evan Baird]

I don't really know if that's true anymore. The cost of labor in China 
isn't much lower than Taiwan. In some cases (Colossi for instance) it's 
actually quite a bit more because there is more competition for skilled 
welders. It's more about materials and supply chain.

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[RBW] Re: eCLEM

[Evan Baird]

Talk to a whole mess of ebike nerds at the New Wheel open house. Different 
aesthetic preferences abound. I did check out a 29+ cargo bike that might 
just be my next dream bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

[Evan Baird]

Dan Boxer turned me on to the Defeet wool gloves. I like them better than 
the Ibex, which i've found don't hold up too well, plus made in USA. I was 
heartbroken when Salsa killed off their lobster gloves, but now it seems a 
lot of folks are making them. I just wish I could get the Defeet with touch 
screen fingers. Tried ordering some from Pakistan, but they were garbage.

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:07:06 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks. I wish I hadn't sold my two pairs of wool mittens, respectively 
> ragg and boiled. Must look for more ...
> For some reason, I *do* have leather over-mittens -- odd.
>
> Please post pics of New Zealand.
>
> (Question: which is odder to American ears: the NZ accent or the South 
> African (English) accent? I had a SA client not too long ago and her accent 
> was -- to my small mind -- distinctly entertaining in a pleasant and not 
> belittling way.)
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Liesl >wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> For cold weather, for me, mittens over gloves every time unless you're 
>> driving a car.  The only trouble I have biking with mittens is wedging my 
>> wool/leather choppers between the bar and cables on the 
>> forward-of-the-grips position on the Boscoes, and that is just not a big 
>> deal.  And I'm with Deacon Patrick on the value of army surplus wool mitts; 
>> one of my fav pairs is double wool with a wool palm and thumb.  great by 
>> itself at about 25 to 40 depending on conditions.
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[RBW] Re: New Sneakers for Homer.

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Hope you dig em! Those were the very first product I ever brought to market.

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:13:40 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
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> Giving em a try. http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>
> ~Hugh
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Bikes Books and Hatchet Openig Party

[Evan Baird]

Bananas Flambe!

On Monday, December 2, 2013 10:24:52 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/68311761245/bike-book-hatchet-grand-opening
>
> Bringing my camp gear for an overnight afterwords. Thinking juniper 
> campgrounds. Anyone else up to ride 3000 ft of climbing in the dark?
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[RBW] Re: Style!

[Evan Baird]

I wish there was a Californian equivalent to 63xc.

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> http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Almost too tweedy!
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[RBW] Re: Larger 650B Homer's

[Evan Baird]

I've asked Grant what he though about a larger 650b Marcos. I love how the 
little ones look with nice plump tires, but the BB is a bit low for a 
conversion. Maybe make a 54 and a 56cm for 650b based on the smaller bikes 
geometry. I think it would still be pretty sporty. Seemed like he was open 
to the idea.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8460/7986804590_483aa6b08f_c.jpg

On Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:15:46 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> I've got to call uncle, can anyone link me up to a PBH chart for the 650B 
> Homer's?
>
> Also any background on how Riv decided to close out the Saluki's and add 
> the 650B Homer's? 
>

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[RBW] Re: School me on Panaracer gumwall casing design.

[Evan Baird]

The story I was told is that modern black wall tires came about because 
Specialized was trying to copy some Japanese tires and the factory they 
contracted with wasn't able to reproduce the amber sidewalls, so they just 
covered the whole thing with black rubber and said this is the new thing, 
and from them on they just made all their tires in black.

On Monday, January 13, 2014 3:30:50 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>
>
>
> All that the "casing" is on gumwall, non-puncture protected Panaracer 
> tires is just a web of strands, embedded in rubber? Topped off with a black 
> tread?
>
> I have seen coronal views of tires with a puncture proof casing that looks 
> solid, that wraps around both beads like a blanket, with the tread on top. 
> Like the Schwalbes and Conti Gatorskins have.
>
> But I am trying to understand what the casings are on these non-puncture 
> protected Panaracers
>
> Just a non- solid web of threads from bead to bead that are embedded in 
> rubber? 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on Panaracer gumwall casing design.

[Evan Baird]

At that time only low end tires would have been black wall, not the kind of 
"serious enthusiast" tires Panasonic, Mitsuboshi, Specialized and WTB were 
making in Japan. High end clincher tires were meant to look like sew ups, 
because that's what you saw on pro bikes. It stated with MTB tires and then 
became trendy with road bikes as well.

On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:58:58 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 01/16/2014 04:40 PM, Evan Baird wrote: 
> > The story I was told is that modern black wall tires came about 
> > because Specialized was trying to copy some Japanese tires and the 
> > factory they contracted with wasn't able to reproduce the amber 
> > sidewalls, so they just covered the whole thing with black rubber and 
> > said this is the new thing, and from them on they just made all their 
> > tires in black. 
>
> And how is this different from the ancient blackwall tires that were 
> seen so often on English 3 speeds? 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell sighting in Prolly isnt Probably

[Evan Baird]

You need to lock him in for a Manny ride next time he comes to town. 100% 
photography ride.

On Saturday, January 18, 2014 11:26:40 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> One of my all time favorite  photographers is John Watson blogger of 
> Prolly is Probably. His composition and ability to capture key moments of 
> rides is truly inspiring.
>
> While stuck waiting for wrestlers at a wrestling tournament I was going 
> through my instagram feed and where I recognized a bike I knew.
> Sure enough it's Jareds bike on John's feed in very familiar territory 
> Mt.Diablo!
>
> Here's the link to the ride report. Super hard first day climbing out of 
> Oakland and up to green Rancho.
>
>
> http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2014/01/rad-reportage-going-awol-in-the-diablo-range/#9
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[RBW] Re: School me on Panaracer gumwall casing design.

[Evan Baird]

When I lived in Seattle I experimented with shellacking skinwalls to 
prevent sidewall rot. It's worked out ok. Kind of DIY gumwall.

On Sunday, January 19, 2014 5:54:16 AM UTC-8, Jason Cloutier wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> That's not a gumwall tire, it's a skinwall tire.  A true gumwall tire has 
> a layer of rubber covering the sidewalls from bead to bead.  The sidewalls 
> are covered with gum colored rubber without carbon black added, thus the 
> name.  My old Schwinn Varsity had gumwall tires.  My Surly has skinwall 
> tires.  From a distance both look similar since the sidewalls are a similar 
> color.
>
> Skinwall tires are fabric with a strip of rubber tread and some thin skin 
> of rubber or latex to protect the fabric.  Sometimes the sidewalls are tan, 
> black, dark brown or various other colors.
>
> Somewhere in time we've lost the meaning of bicycle terms  Gumwall vs. 
> skinwall is a good example.
>
> Jason Cloutier
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[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

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Other forums have a permanent FS/WTB sticky thread. If nothing else it 
makes it easy to find stuff rather than searching all over a bunch of 
separate threads. Cuts down on the noise too.

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[RBW] Re: New build: Soma GR, and a question

[Evan Baird]

That FD prolly needs a wider chain line.

On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:56:53 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Well Grant would probably not approve of the amount of seat post showing, 
> but, it seems to work pretty good for me, and I am comfortable riding it. 
>  Maybe would like a tad more elevation to the stem, but in practice riding 
> it around I don't notice.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/23646261@N03/8p64BN/
>
> The question I have is, is that FD going to work for me?  I am thinking 
> no, because the loop around the post halves the amount of cable pull 
> available to the front shifter.  I can't get it to move nearly as much as I 
> need.  The specs said top pull or bottom pull, but really, I think it would 
> be better with top pull.  Too bad.  I bought a used IRD Alpina the other 
> day, I'm going to use that on the Rivendell and try the FD on the Rivendell 
> on my Soma GR.
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[RBW] Re: Nitto NR-20?

[Evan Baird]

The NR-20 mounts to the underside of the brake bridge. The NR-21 has a 
threaded post like the M-12.



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[RBW] Re: First Riv Photo

[Evan Baird]

Style for days.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:56:17 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:
>
> I recently found this photo taken before my inaugural ride on my 
> Allrounder from back in (I think it was) 1999?  Gasp, I'm wearing lycra! 
>  Actually it makes sense because of the rather long day in the saddle I 
> had.  I appreciated the padding.  A good way to start a relationship with 
> one of my favorite bikes.  It's gone through various configurations over 
> the years but that was a pretty solid build.
>
>
> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2014/09/in-honor-of-grant-petersens-visit.html
>
> Just thought I'd share,
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>  
>
> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>
> Educator: Professional Portfolio 
>
> Blogger: Reno Rambler  
>
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[RBW] Re: Dia compe knob grip?

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Have em. Love em.



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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soma Highway 1 Bar -- Got One or Know Where to Get One?

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More coming later this month hopefully.

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Re: [RBW] Favorite new rumors from the industry, Interbike-ish stuff

[Evan Baird]

I'm so excited for the Klamper brakes. I stopped by the booth to play with 
them and they felt dialed. Simple adjustment knobs, and bigger than the 
Avids. I think they might work well with compression-less housing and Paul 
Love Levers. Nitto had some pretty stuff as usual. Panaracer is coming out 
with their own B+ tires and a snot load of new 650b 42mm tires too!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frankenstein Bike

[Evan Baird]

Every time I see new pics of it pop up in my flickr feed I respost em. 
She's a real beaut.

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[RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

[Evan Baird]

Spotted these on a Bilenky tandem at the Philly Expo.

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[RBW] Tanaka fenders - any thoughts?

[Evan Baird]

The older Tanaka fenders were made in a different factory, and had some issues 
with radius consistency. The newer ones seems more accurate, and come a bit 
longer + pre drilled. We asked them to start using the honjo style 2 bolt 
clamps instead of darumas, because they put way less stress on the holes so 
there's less risk of cracking. The front fenders are really meant to attach to 
a front rack, so it might be wise to use and extra u stay on the front if 
you're not running one.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the real San Marcos tire/fender combo clearance?

[Evan Baird]

Just an update, were currently working out the geometry for a 54cm and 57cm 
650b Marcos variant. Hopefully they'll be in stock later this year. Some chrome 
replacement forks on order too, if you have one of the old frames sans mini 
rack braze ons.

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[RBW] Re: Tire noise, way OT

[Evan Baird]

I'm interested to know if there's an accurate way to quantify rolling 
resistance as it relates to tread directionality. It's always been my 
perception that horizontal ribs offer more traction but also create more 
drag vs. lateral ribs. My assumption is that on most Japanese tires at 
least the rubber is soft enough that the difference would be pretty 
nominal, but there does seem to be more audible buzz with horizontal tread 
patterns. I would imagine that's caused by the micro treads flattening 
 front to back as they come in contact with pavement, versus evenly on both 
sides.

On Friday, May 9, 2014 7:43:29 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I have noticed that some bike tires are noticeably noisier than others. 
>  It seems to be related to the amount of tread, especially protruding 
> bumps, but that's just my subjective impression.  I have new tires that are 
> very noisy, but they are on my Prius not my Rivendell.  I now wonder if 
> there isn't a hi correlation between tire noise and rolling resistance?
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

[Evan Baird]

I promised I'd give him a set after he gets his Riv fixed.

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:42:25 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> 650b version should be called the "Manny."
>
> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:06:22 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Here's the details.
>>
>> http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-other-cazadero-tire.html?m=1
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Soma's Tanaka Decaleurs???

[Evan Baird]

The only downside to these that I've found is you really want to strap it 
down to keep the bag from bouncing if you ride it on super bumpy 
trails/roads. If your bag has a loop for the tombstone that's less of an 
issue, but mine doesn't so I put one of the included ostrich straps on when 
I ride trails. I haven't had the linkage move on me at all. I wrote a post 
about it on the Soma blog.

http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/02/tanaka-decaleur-and-ostrich-f-104n.html

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 2:30:49 PM UTC-7, jphil...@icloud.com wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>Has anyone used a Tanaka decaleur? Know anyone who has? It looks pretty 
> easy to mount and rather adjustable:
>
> http://store.somafab.com/tadeforth11.html
>
> I would just like a little more info than what I could see on the Soma 
> website before I pull the trigger & buy one.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> John  (who wears a helmet or his wife will hit him and make him wish he 
> did)
>

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[RBW] Re: Soma's Tanaka Decaleurs???

[Evan Baird]

Oh, and according to Prolly they're too heavy. But that describes pretty 
much everything on my bike so take that for what you will. I do my best to 
break everything they give me, and so far these are still hanging in there.

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>
> Hi,
>
>Has anyone used a Tanaka decaleur? Know anyone who has? It looks pretty 
> easy to mount and rather adjustable:
>
> http://store.somafab.com/tadeforth11.html
>
> I would just like a little more info than what I could see on the Soma 
> website before I pull the trigger & buy one.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> John  (who wears a helmet or his wife will hit him and make him wish he 
> did)
>

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[RBW] Re: Soma's Tanaka Decaleurs???

[Evan Baird]

Help Computer 

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[RBW] Re: OT - RIP Ezra Caldwell. Bike builder, photographer, cook, dance instructor, blogger, husband, and all around cool dude.

[Evan Baird]

Really heartbreaking. I never met him, but I felt like I knew him from 
reading his writing and following his pictures for so many years.

On Friday, May 30, 2014 1:32:20 PM UTC-7, Tonester wrote:
>
> http://www.teachingcancertocry.com/?p=2076
>

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[RBW] Re: It looks like now Rivendell stocks the Soma Grand Randonneur tires

[Evan Baird]

Hoping to make a 66tpi version at some point and bring the price down. 
Still, you don't get a 300g tire without some special sauce.

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:03:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> EXTRA STOUT 
>
> svelte and s-word 
>
> I need to wear out some tires so I can try some of these out.  Since they 
> are Somas, it means your local bike shop can sell them to you as well.  
>

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[RBW] Re: It looks like now Rivendell stocks the Soma Grand Randonneur tires

[Evan Baird]

Just for comparison.

http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/challenge-grifo-xs-33-tubular-cyclocross-tire

On Friday, May 30, 2014 3:54:11 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote:
>
> Hoping to make a 66tpi version at some point and bring the price down. 
> Still, you don't get a 300g tire without some special sauce.
>
> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:03:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> EXTRA STOUT <http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t106-10140.htm>
>>
>> svelte and s-word <http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t106-10141.htm>
>>
>> I need to wear out some tires so I can try some of these out.  Since they 
>> are Somas, it means your local bike shop can sell them to you as well.  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: IRD super compact double now (nearly) available 94mm BCD

[Evan Baird]

The chainrings are a copy of an old Campy design.

On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 2:21:12 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote:
>
> Fat outer chain rings seem to be characteristic of IRD.  This is the 50/34 
> IRD defiant compact setup on my Boulder All Road gives the same impression.
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/11767532715/in/set-72157639415730156
>
> ~Tom
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:19:48 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>
>> I wish that big ring wan't so "fat" looking.  I'd like to get the 
>> crankarms without rings if possible.
>>
>> ~mike
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] More jewelry from Nitto

[Evan Baird]

Umm, are you fucking kidding me?


http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pedalmuseum.straps
On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:09:33 PM UTC-7, bgcycles wrote:
>
> Looks like they finally copied the King Cage ones that they took pictures 
> of 2 and 3  years ago at the King Cage Booth at Interbike.
> King Cage made them 4 years ago in Colorado USA.  MKS is the “King of 
> Copys”.
> If you want the originals check them out at - 
> http://kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html
>
> Regards,
> Bruce Gordon
> www.bgcycles.com
> www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com
> (707) 762-5601
>  
> On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Ryan > wrote:
>
> For those of us who still like toeclips and strapsbrought to you by 
> MKS and Nitto
>  
> http://www.kinokocycles.com/mks-nitto-full-cage-toe-clip.html
>  
> Rather elegant...I have to say
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Re: [RBW] More jewelry from Nitto

[Evan Baird]

Speaking of which, anybody remeber these?



<http://gypsybytrade.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/8616wp-2.jpg?w=584&h=438>
http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/tag/650b/

On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:34:47 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> The photo Evan attached is of a French toe clip made in the 1920s.  
>
> On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:27:31 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote:
>>
>> Umm, are you fucking kidding me?
>>
>> <http://www.speedplay.com/pedalmuseum/images/IMG_15941.jpg>
>> http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pedalmuseum.straps
>> On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:09:33 PM UTC-7, bgcycles wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like they finally copied the King Cage ones that they took 
>>> pictures of 2 and 3  years ago at the King Cage Booth at Interbike.
>>> King Cage made them 4 years ago in Colorado USA.  MKS is the “King of 
>>> Copys”.
>>> If you want the originals check them out at - 
>>> http://kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bruce Gordon
>>> www.bgcycles.com
>>> www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com
>>> (707) 762-5601
>>>  
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>>>
>>> For those of us who still like toeclips and strapsbrought to you by 
>>> MKS and Nitto
>>>  
>>> http://www.kinokocycles.com/mks-nitto-full-cage-toe-clip.html
>>>  
>>> Rather elegant...I have to say
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer

[Evan Baird]

Once we got them to make the c-lines they reintroduced the pasella in 38c as 
well. Its the same mold with different casing.

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