Re: [RBW] Re: Slowly reappearing
The short answer is the swoopy top tube. Easier to mount and dismount. Longer explanation is a bike that handles closer to the classic west coast mountain bike. And something that would let me toddle along without worrying about being too slow. My health has really slowed me down. And I prefer the looks of the Clem. Oh, and the Ogre was feeling like a slog every time I rode it. I was tired of it. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, May 27, 2020, 7:18 AM Doug Hansford wrote: > Welcome back Eric. I look forward to reading about your bicycle journeys > and such. What are you looking for in the Clem L that the Ogre didn't have? > Doug > > On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 6:27:00 AM UTC-4, EricP wrote: >> >> Just wanted to poke my head up and say "hi" to all the folks on the list >> again. It's been a long time since the last post. A lot of things meant it >> was no longer viable to monitor and contribute to the list. The changes >> over the past few years have been both good and bad. And will just keep it >> at that. >> >> What made me come back? It was Clem. Jumped in on the latest pre-sale for >> a 59. And to make it official, sold my non-Riv steel bike (Surly Ogre). >> Don't worry, still have the 60cm Sam Hillborne for riding. And it's been >> getting miles in this year. Have put more mileage on the past two months >> than the prior two years combined. Why Clem? Been sorely tempted on one >> ever since the first introduction. Life had a way of telling me it wasn't >> time. Now, it's time. >> >> So for now, it's good to be back and hope to have some pleasant >> conversations with folks on bikes and stuff. >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/DeBKSwSDvbc/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ebb3982f-f2b1-4f0a-a14f-3e427fc86dc8%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ebb3982f-f2b1-4f0a-a14f-3e427fc86dc8%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAC%3DA9uJ_xUeCaY4ONq0%3DeEP92L%3D0_%2BjVbc_JKckopJ9k9hCdGg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Slowly reappearing
In my case had to go with the green. One time had a SimpleOne in a slightly similar color. Plus, my Hillborne is blue and I certainly can't have 2 bikes of the same color. . As to the Ogre, when I first got it, it was great. But after 6 or 7 years it just was no longer fun to ride. I put it on me, as the new owner loves it and considers it better than the one he had, which had been stolen. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:04 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Eric, > > I think you will love your new Clem. You neglected to say which color you > got...if you got RBW blue then you and my Dad will be twinning with > matching Clems from this batch. Dad’s Clem will live on the North Dakota > side and yours will live on the Minnesota side. Pretty cool! > > I have the same bike in 52 (RBW blue) and I can tell you it’s really fun > to ride. It doesn’t feel fast but it doesn’t feel slow, either. I got mine > in October and have maybe 1400 miles on it now and I never get tired of > riding it. It’s in the shop getting new fancy, light tubeless wheels with > dyno, so I’m riding my husband’s 52 Clem H and man, getting used to a top > tube is an unnecessary evil, if you ask me. You’ll LOVE a step-through and > you’ll never want a diamond frame again. I don’t know if Dad knows about > the “girls’ bike stereotype” but I’ve watched him nearly fall over 3 times > trying to swing his long legs (he’s 6’3”) over his diamond frame. He WANTS > the step-through, whatever people call it matters nothing to him. > > So, you’re going to LOVE that bike. And I hope I run into you on it on the > bike trails in the Cities this summer! I’ll be the one with the blue Clem > and the colorful wheels. > Leah > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/DeBKSwSDvbc/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0f58eab4-f379-45ac-b88b-6baf0255d419%40googlegroups.com > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAC%3DA9uJLKs6Z_89GQePupSa0xhtxiXsGTttjs_uOu7a8ja97eQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for bicycle saddles? 3 questions for RivRiders.
All three of my bikes have different iterations of the Terry Liberator Y saddle. Ages range from about 10 years old to one year old. They change the mold and design every few years it seems. The style of riding is more a "just ride" type. Some commuting, general getting out there and goofing off, a little dirt road and sometimes double-track. In the last couple years the longest ride being about a metric century in length. Did use Brooks B-17 saddles until a bit over a year and a half ago when I started getting serious skin problems from the rear part of the saddle frame. Have also tried the Cardiff saddle and unfortunately it's the same problem. Briefly tried a B-67 which is wider and should avoid that, but found my thighs chafe on the sides of that saddle. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Bruce Herbitter wrote: > > > I have Selle Anatomica Titanico Saddles on 3 bikes and a Brooks B5N on one. > > Saluki w/bars above saddle: S-A without the cut out, for light riders: > Most comfy saddle ever, but stretched to the max soonest. Leather starting > to crack around the rivets after 5 years of wear. Can be sent back for new > leather. > > Road and Rambouillet have S-A with cut out, heavy rider version. Both fine > after a number of years. Handlebars just above saddle. Reasonably comfy > from day one, but seriously comfy after a month or two. > > Maruishi (for Nashbar) crit racer set up with tall stem and M-bars. B5N > was an OEM saddle shaped like a B17N with pebbled top and thinner leather. > Got one NOS and treated it with Obenauf's before riding it. Actually a > pretty nice saddle. These come up on Ebay from time to time. > > Saddles I rode and took off to put on the shelf: 2 Brooks B-17s, a Team > Pro and a Gyes road saddle (god awful POS). I just don't like the B17 all > that well, despite the fact that many love them. > > > >> On Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:21:41 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: >>> >>> Since I asked about shorts, I thought I'd ask about saddles, too. >>> >>> 1. What are the most comfortable saddles that you use? Please give the >>> full name of the saddle (like, don't say just "Terry saddle", if it was a >>> "Terry Liberator Y Gel saddle"). >>> >>> 2. Please state for which kind of riding you use the saddle (ex: >>> racing/touring/dirt/stunt/**commuting/drops/upright, etc.). >>> >>> 3. On which of your bikes do you use the saddle (ex: >>> Riv/All-R/Lego/Cust/Ram/Rom/**Red/Bomb/Ap/At/Bet/Yv/Sam/** >>> Hunq/Road/Glor/Wilb/Bler/**Homer/Simp/Quick/whatever other models they >>> make)? >>> >>> 4. Feel free to link to a pic of your saddle. >>> >>> Interesting to read about these things. >>> For instance, I read that someone stated they used their B67 or 68 >>> for bars-below-saddle riding, though contrary to its designed purpose, I >>> think. >>> >>> Always nice to hear that people are using gear outside the box with >>> success. >>> Helps keep perspective and not always buy into the "no you can't" gear >>> zeitgeists that are always flying around bicycle circles. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] camera recomendations?
The Panasonic LX series are very nice. My problem when I had an LX3 was the mode dial turned too easily. Had a lot of photos taken during the trip to San Diego not come out well Right now my go-to point and shoot is one of these - http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DSC-RX100-Sensor-Digital-Camera/dp/B00889ST2G/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1376866973&sr=1-1&keywords=sony+rx100 Probably too expensive for many. I like the ease of handling, build quality and final results. Oh, and the two point and shoot modes really do a great job for 90+ percent of the photos I take. For less money, although slightly larger, the Sony NEX series 3 camera is also a winner. That's my "big" camera outfit these days. Funnily enough, I still don't throw it in the bike bag often enough. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > That's a great idea. I'll look into that. > > Eric N > www.CampyOnly.com > CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com > Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > > > On Aug 18, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > >> On 08/18/2013 05:03 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > >> he Panasonic is indeed a nice camera (I have a Lumix LX-2). The biggest > downside for me is that lens cap--using the camera involves 1) extracting > it from the pocket or bag, 2) fiddling one-handed with the lens cap, which > then dangles around, 3) turning it on, 4) taking the photo, and 5) steps 3 > to 1 in reverse. (Note that I typically take photos while I'm rolling; this > would all be easier if you stopped to take a shot.) > > > > A friend of mine has a new LX7 (a direct descendent of your LX2). She > bought an aftermarket automatic lens cap for it. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Practical differences - SON vs Shimano Dyno hub?
The main problem I've noticed on the Shimano dynohubs is the tendency for the connection to go bad. On my wife's bike usually means taking a small knife and removing the oxidation on the connector. Eventually it will be a problem. That's one advantage the SON has. FWIW, I have two bikes with SON hubs. Both have worked for a number of years without a second thought. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Jimmy Hutch wrote: > I have three bikes with SON hubs, a Brompton with 11k+ miles, a Bike > Friday and a Rivendell AHH each with a couple thousand miles. I ride with > my "lights on" day and night so cannot tell if there is material drag or > not. My SON hubs have performed flawlessly. > > I also have a Shimano Alfine dynamo hub on my relatively low mileage Surly > Big Dummy, it works fine except the connector sucks. I see that others > praise the single connector but it is a cheap piece of plastic (shit) that > has problems. > > Trying to decide between SON and a Shimano is a lot like trying to decide > between a BMW and a Honda - the BMW is nicer but you pay a lot of for > each incremental improvement. I'd take a Shimano dynamo over no dynamo any > day of the week. And if I was a rational consumer I would probably own > only Shimano dynamo hubs. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Practical differences - SON vs Shimano Dyno hub?
Thanks for the tip. Will buy some and give it a go. On Aug 19, 2013 9:43 AM, "M D Smith" wrote: > Stupid phone- Should have signed off: > > Mike in Htfd > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How much do you carry on your S24O?
I've been known to bring a book. Usually a paperback, though. Also like a (Thermarest) pillow and sleeping pad. For the latter, been using a Big Agnes inflatable. Even carry a heavy(ish) stove and fuel cannister. Have the Esbit but like the bigger flame if I'm cooking food. Also easier to heat up water for hot chocolate at night and coffee in the morning. My most silly item is usually a small transistor radio. Either for listening to a baseball game, or weather forecasts. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:30 PM, William wrote: > For an S24O I tend to bring whatever I feel like bringing. Sometimes that > includes a hardcover book (gasp!), maybe a bottle of wine and an opener > (double gasp!). Maybe a deck of cards (#faint). Sometimes my S24O starts > at the end of one workday and ends at the beginning of the next workday, > which means I might be carrying my laptop (#conniption). My cargo rarely > includes a live crab. Only Manny packs live seafood for S24Os, AFAIK > > As a sometimes gram-counter, I'll pull together the same kit you have > below and weigh it. I know my bag and mat are light. I've got a roomy > solo tent > a tiny bug bivy > a hammock. I use a stuffable pillow. For > morning coffee I do a drip cone thing which is a lot lighter than a press, > probably > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Adjustment
Personally, don't believe the Kalloy posts get a B-17 back far enough. Tried it last weekend to see if I could tolerate a Brooks again, and the combination of that saddle and post was not good for me or my riding style. Painful on multiple fronts. Have used the VO seatpost in the past when using a B-17. Actually, Patrick, there is a second answer - a bike with a very slack seat tube. Like something in the 67 or 68 degree range.(grin) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > The Only Answer is a seatpost with unusual amounts of setback. Back when I > tried a Flyer, I used a seatpost with a pronounced "S" curve; a quick > Google (v, intr) didn't find it. But I daresay there are other > possibilities. > > Brooks saddles don't have as much rearward adjustability as more modern > designs. I take it that this is because they were designed back when sub > 70* seat tube angles were common. > > Another good solution is a frame with a 71* seat tube angle -- the Sam > HIll has this, IIRC. > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Kellie Stapleton < > kellie.staple...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> All good info above. Thanks. Yes, I understand the dogma is knee over >> spindle, and I'd like to go a tad back from there. The question is about >> getting the B17 further back with the rails narrowing. Does anybody know? >> Or is the answer another seat post with more setback? >> >> >> On Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:34:46 PM UTC-7, Kellie Stapleton wrote: >>> >>> Am I doing something wrong? I have a Brooks B17 and I'd like to slide it >>> further back but the rails of the saddle narrow. It won't slide any further >>> and right now my knees are directly above the pedal. Seems >>> strange.saddle post the Kalloy that use to come with Rivendell >>> build kits. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* > Certified Resume Writer > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > > Albuquerque, NM > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddles - A Weighty Question
When I was using a B-17 my weight was over 300 (at the start) down to the 220 range. Never had a problem with the rails. Not using them at present, but it is unrelated to my weight. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Cecily Walker wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a Brooks B67 S saddle on my Betty Foy, but I'm finding that the > saddle isn't as comfortable as it used to be when I was riding completely > upright on my Dutch bike. I'm leaning a bit more forward on the Betty Foy, > and that's putting some uncomfortable pressure on sensitive parts. > > My concern is that because I'm a heavyweight rider, a saddle like the B17 > won't stand up to my weight, and I'll damage the seat rails. Have any of > you who are in excess of 220# had any issues with the B17 saddle? > > If you have other recommendations, I'm happy to entertain them. > > Thanks! > Cecily > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddles - A Weighty Question
Philip, Thank you. Actually have dropped between 130--140 pounds from peak (was 370). Pretty sure I purchased the first B-17 while still in the 350 range. Figured it should be able to hold my weight. However, have a touch of doubt to when it was first purchased, so erred on the side of caution with weight. As silly as it seems, don't believe I've ever bent Brooks rails in the past, although many of my friends who weigh less have. And it is not due to superior bike handling skills. More likely pure, dumb luck. Will join the choir on suggesting adjust a lot first before trying something else. As to seatposts, have only had slippage issues with Nitto posts. Happened with two different posts on two different bikes. But as no one else seems to have this problem, it's probably unique to my riding technique and style. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm impressed, Eric, that you dropped 80+ pounds (dang), and I appreciate > your using "at present" instead of "presently." I work with a very kind > English major who misuses "presently" every time he can. > > I'm at 241, and I was 250 for the last couple years. No issues at all with > my 9 year old Brooks B17 saddle rails. I think leaning forward will put > less stress on the rails, compared to sitting dead upright on the saddle, > because your body will act as another spring. Pedaling harder will > similarly unweight the seat, so if your Rivendell works like mine, you'll > be fine. My wife did break her B72 rails (one, then another one). I > replaced them with a donor chassis: > http://www.biketinker.com/2011/projects/brooks-saddle-repaired/ that has > held up for a couple of years. I think it was more the iffy seat post clamp > than any weight issue, but she's not a flyweight either. > > I think a B17 would work fine for a long time, but adjusting your existing > saddle a bit fore and aft and tweaking the tilt a bit could bring > everything together again as well. Basically what everyone else said... > > Philip > www.biketinker.com > > > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.
Another one to suggest Albatross or other bar. Have had carpal issues in the past and sitting more upright has definitely helped. From my experience, elbow flexing more than weight on hands seems to be a big factor. Did have Woodchippers on my Fargo. After a while, they seemed to contribute to the pain. This would take some work, but maybe a set of Salsa Cowbell bars might be better. Less reach. You'd have to go to a threadless adaptor and different stem as the center is 31.8. Been going to something similar on a non-Rivendell bike. It may end up with Albatross bars as Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Michael wrote: > Let me add,* bolt upright* on Albas might be worth a try. >> > You may need a shorter stem, like an 8cm extension to get the bars back > far enough. That's what my Alba setup is. Least amount of weight possible > on hands - bolt upright. > I still get some hand stuff going on though. > > I knew a guitarist once who told me that using those hand grips exercisers > eliminated his CT, if I remember correctly. Perhaps he caught it early. I > remember him grabbing a guitar neck to pick one up and yelling out loud > because it hurt. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Riv-ish Mapping GPS...?
Agree with the hand-drawn argument. My favorites are in the book Cycling the California Outback with Bodfish. As to the other style of map, there is a bike shop in Grand Marais, MN that takes a map of the Superior National Forest and highlights the best roads to ride. Been tempted from time to time on a good GPS, but just lack the gumption to get one. Have a Garmin 205 that has been on a bike all of about 5 times since purchase. Doesn't bode well for other ones. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Bill Gibson wrote: > GPS is fun, but it's not as good as it seems to be. Like my computers, > when they work, they save time, when they don't, they waste time. As for > "rivish", I think that would be a friend's hand-drawn map, or one of those > maps with lots of blank space, like an old USFS fire road map, with places > like "the misty mountain" penciled in with a red pencil...I like mine, too, > but leave it behind now when I go further. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Riv-ish Mapping GPS...?
Glad to hear that. I've never been to that part of CA. Purchased the book due to an ad in the old Fat Tire Flyer. Have always used it as a "wish book". Didn't hurt that I've always liked the idea of touring on mountain bikes. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: > Bodfish (Chuck Elliot) is still around, and has a bike shop in Lake > Almanor. Twice I have ridden through the area, once going north and > once going south. Both times he was able to tell me about splendid > dirt detours paralleling my planned road route. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne Rohloff Conversion
Another one who is totally jealous. There is now an "out" if I ever get bored with my current setup on the SimpleOne. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Ron Mc wrote: > the cold-set itself is only 1/3-inch on each side - the trick to it is > keeping the alignment. Great-looking bikes and I'm jealous - thanks for > showing them. > > > On Thursday, September 5, 2013 9:56:43 AM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote: >> >> First, congratulations; that's an ambitious mod. The basic concept is >> cool (i.e. being able to switch between single-speed and internal-geared), >> except cold-setting a 120mm spaced-frame to 135mm to me is pretty extreme. >> A big part of the appeal of the S1/QB is that it IS a single speed and it >> has 120mm rear spacing. If you want gears (let alone a 14-speed Rohloff), >> why are you starting with a 120mm SS frame and (forever) altering its >> genetic structure? And how can you ever go back to SS (in good conscience) >> as a 135mm-spaced SS??? Besides, there are other gearing options without >> having to cold set. For example, you can get creative with a dual-speed >> freewheel and double crankset to at least stretch your SS into a 4-speed. >> Or you can choose a 126mm internal-geared hub (like a SRAM/Spectro P5 or >> S7; granted not a Rohloff, but a nice durable hub). I use a Patterson >> 2-speed crankset which extends my S1 to climb moderate hills. Add an S7 >> hub, and you've got formidable gear range. >> >> OK, blah blah blah... fact remains you've already created a Simple-14.. >> at the very least that's audacious, diabolical and totally Frankenbikish, >> worthy of props... so I'll give that a big Dr Evil "MBWAAAHH"!!! >> >> Peace, >> BB >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 5:55:53 PM UTC-4, Daniel Molloy wrote: >>> >>> Hi group, >>> >>> I thought I would share this Rohloff conversion we just finished at >>> Cycle Monkey. As a former Rivendell employee and current Rohloff user I'm a >>> little biased, but I think it turned out great. We cold-set the rear >>> triangle without any problems. Alex Wetmore converted his Quickbeam to a >>> Rohloff a while back, but there doesn't seem to be much info online about >>> it anymore. Fair Disclosure: I currently work at Cycle Monkey, and am only >>> posting here since I believe it counts as relevant and interesting Riv >>> Content. >>> >>> http://cyclemonkeylab.**blogspot.com/2013/09/** >>> rivendell-simpleone-rohloff-**speedhub.html<http://cyclemonkeylab.blogspot.com/2013/09/rivendell-simpleone-rohloff-speedhub.html> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?
Might want to have your friend check out the bikepacking site - http://www.bikepacking.net/ Haven't checked it recently, but there were a number of folks who did multiple day trips with a backpack. Your friend might think about strapping the tent (if used) and/or sleeping bag (if used) to the handlebars. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM, William wrote: > There is only one tip to give: > > Meditate on Rule #5 > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules
Rats. Looks like there are one or two I haven't broken yet. Need to get out there and work on them. Now, how to attach a mirror... Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Scott Henry wrote: > The only one that matters is Rule #5. Next time I'm in the shop getting > some tattoo work done, I'm seriously considering adding it. > Long live the Velominati > > > Scott > > > Cheers, > Scott Henry > Dayton, OH > > FTM-PTB > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rack under load; Toplight mounted; Re-covered Flite
So far, Patrick's photos have shown up correct on my computers. And they're fine on my HTC phone, also. Just checked to make sure. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ditto on the iPad, in every case. > That said, the saddle recovery is pretty great, and the bike is beautiful. > > Philip > www.biketinker.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?
Interesting. As I said many times in past, never found the Fargo ponderous. In fact, for me and my riding style, it was the exact opposite. Still miss that bike. But it was making me do stupid things that were wrecking the hands (again). As for when is a tire too fat? Hard to say. Maybe anything wider than the 4.8 inch tires on the Surly Moonlander. Bikes like that make me realize that 38 to 40mm tires are bordering on too skinny to ride. (Yes, I'm being snarky. Somewhat.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Just to be sure all understand: the improvement from the Freds is both > lighter weight and lower rolling resistance -- at least, I guess it is l r > r that makes me want a higher gear, that in turn due to a very thin casing. > I assume that a good part of the new "lively" feeling is due to the lower > weight of wheels and rest, while the steady state that allows -- nay, > demands! -- a one-tooth higher gear is the other quality. > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?
Around here, a short beard, grey & white, will probably get the comment - "so you work for Surly?"Only have had a couple of comments over the years on my Rivendell bikes. And they are usually by riders either on custom steel frames, or fixed-gear messenger types. Most "regular" cyclists around here have no idea or interest in Rivendell. While there are a lot of modern technology bikes around here, there are still a lot of riders on steel. Surly, old Trek and now All City being the three I most often notice. In fact, All City may be making a push to replace the Surly Cross Check as what I would consider the ubiquitous Twin Cities bicycle. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:47 PM, dougP wrote: > Even a short beard wards off "those people", especially if it's grey & > white :-). Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals & they don't even have > to see your bike to "just know". > > dougP > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Low Normal Derailers
I've used the LX version. Think one of my bikes has one. (Maybe two). Hard to remember, as each has a different shifter. I like it. But if things were switched out for a "normal" derailleur, probably wouldn't notice. Wish they had kept them in the lineup, but can understand the folks who don't like them really don't like them. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Andrew Drummond < andrew.d.drumm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have XTR low-normals (also known as rapid rise) on two bikes, and given > a choice I wouldn't use anything else. I do have two other bikes with > "normal" shifting (not enough low-normals to go around right now), but it's > not an issue to go back and forth - they all have different kinds of > shifters anyway. I suspect that if the low-normal style had been developed > first, nobody would have bothered with the other way. What's the point? > > Andrew > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Low Normal Derailers
Short cage, so I'm safe. Have a few 32t cassettes, but mostly am slowly migrating to 36t. Then again, don't think I've had a short cage derailleur since the early 1980's. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:32 PM, William wrote: > Time for more stockpiling!! > > > On Friday, September 13, 2013 8:08:23 AM UTC-7, Z wrote: >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/**Shimano-XT-RD-M760-Short-Cage-** >> 9-speed-Rapid-Rise-Rear-**Derailleur-Silver-Black-/**271263565270?pt=US_* >> *Derailleurs_Rear&hash=**item3f289185d6<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shimano-XT-RD-M760-Short-Cage-9-speed-Rapid-Rise-Rear-Derailleur-Silver-Black-/271263565270?pt=US_Derailleurs_Rear&hash=item3f289185d6> >> >> On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:34:33 PM UTC-6, William wrote: >>> >>> I like the RD-M751-GS in low normal very much and stockpiled them. >>> >>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 2:51:41 PM UTC-7, Larry H wrote: >>>> >>>> Are there any list members who are using or have in the past used low >>>> normal derailers. For the uninitiated, these are derailers with a spring >>>> that pulls the cage toward the largest cassette gear rather than the >>>> smallest. It appears that Shimano has discontinued all of their low normal >>>> derailers, but old stock is still available from various retailers. >>>> >>>> The nice thing would be that moving both Silver Shifters in the same >>>> direction would downshift, making it easier to pedal on climbs. Also, if >>>> your cable breaks, down you go to first gear rather than ninth (or >>>> eighteenth or whatever). >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: 14 Sep - DC Area Atlantis Ride
Cool. I did that loop a number of times back in 2008 when in DC on business. Well, except for the fact the 4 Mile Run didn't connect to W&OD at that time. Looks like a great time. Totally jealous. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 4:38 PM, WETH wrote: > It was a great ride and my first ride with other RBW folks. Tony, thanks > for organizing and leading us. It was fun comparing our Atlanti. Ken and > Howard, I enjoyed meeting and riding with you both. Seeing a Ramboullait > and an Allrounder in person was a treat I managed to get in 52 miles of > riding today on the Atlantis! > I, too, hope that today will be the first of many future rides! > All the best, > Erl > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Morning ride, Proto-Appaloosa Mystery Bike
Great pre-dawn photo. Yes, it's definitely time for lighting heading into work. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > Gorgeous shot of the pre-dawn... looks like you weren't the only creature > out for an early morning jaunt. > > 9 Mystery bikes eh ok, I can't help myself. > > *Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky, > Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone, > Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die, > One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne, > In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie, > One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, > One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them > In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.* > —*The Lord of the Rings*, Epigraph > > Not to be morbid, we'll all go someday right it was just too easy. > > Tony > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] San Diego Bay Ride
Okay, am officially jealous. Still remember doing that ride 4 years ago. Want to do it again some day. (With the extension past Sunset Cliffs and out to Point Loma. And I want to do it on a "real" bike, or at least Esteban's Kogswell. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Curtis McKenzie wrote: > Hi, > > Just in case any SoCal folks are interested: > > I will be riding the San Diego Bay Shore Bike Route on Sunday morning > (9/22). Will be at the fountain in Balboa Park at about 8:30 am. The route > is very flat and about 25 miles. Planning on taking the ferry to close the > loop. > > Ride safe, > > Curtis > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] San Diego Bay Ride
Derek, yes I do remember. And again, thank you for saving my hide with that water. Have rarely bonked as bad as that one. Betting there is a lot of good riding out there. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Derek Simmons < retiredinsancleme...@gmail.com> wrote: > And Eric, I still remember doing it with you. I'm jealous now because > we've relocated to North Carolina and the SD Bay ride is even farther for > me than you. > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Eric Platt wrote: > >> Okay, am officially jealous. Still remember doing that ride 4 years >> ago. Want to do it again some day. (With the extension past Sunset Cliffs >> and out to Point Loma. And I want to do it on a "real" bike, or at least >> Esteban's Kogswell. >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Curtis McKenzie wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just in case any SoCal folks are interested: >>> >>> I will be riding the San Diego Bay Shore Bike Route on Sunday morning >>> (9/22). Will be at the fountain in Balboa Park at about 8:30 am. The route >>> is very flat and about 25 miles. Planning on taking the ferry to close the >>> loop. >>> >>> Ride safe, >>> >>> Curtis >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > > Derek Simmons > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Small Saddlesack for Carrying a Laptop?
Haven't used it with a laptop, but do have the Saddlesack Small. Your concerns about it hitting a frame or seatpost are valid. In my case, it bounces against the rear rack. If I were to do this, would want the computer in a protective sleeve of some sort to cushion any impact. As to a sprung saddle cutting down on space, maybe. But that shouldn't be a concern for a laptop. Maybe a laptop with a six pack of beer on top. Lying on the side, of course. But not just the laptop. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, jar351 wrote: > My ladyfriend isn't quite happy with her porteur rack cargo system (too > much weight in front makes the bike feel unwieldy to her), so I'm > researching alternatives. I like the looks of the small Saddlesack in tan; > I think it'll go pretty well with the bike. It's advertised as fitting a > 13" Macbook, but how does it actually work out in practice? My main concern > is that the laptop will bump against the frame or seatpost. A secondary > concern is that a sprung saddle will cut into the capacity of the bag, > perhaps making is difficult to fit a laptop. Anyone out there using a small > Saddlesack (with or without a sprung saddle) for this purpose? Would you > care to comment? Are there other alternatives I should be thinking about? > Any and all info/advice is welcome. > > Andre > Oakland, CA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Gov't Shutdown - Leesburg Loop Ride Tomorrow? (10/2)
Towpath is closed and supposedly so is the Capital Crescent at the DC border. (Not from the area, but we're out there late next week on vacation.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On 10/01/2013 04:18 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > >> Any furloughed gov't workers, or otherwise underemployed peeps, want to >> join me for the Leesburg Loop tomorrow? West on the W&OD Trail from >> Shirlington out to Whites Ferry and then back to DC via the C&O Canal >> Towpath... >> > > You are aware, the Towpath is officially closed during the shutdown? > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com > . > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunch<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Gov't Shutdown - Leesburg Loop Ride Tomorrow? (10/2)
Thanks for listing that. We'll be out in DC next week and hope to rent a bike and get a ride in on Columbus Day. Right now planning to do the Mt. Vernon Trail-Custis, W&OD-4 Mile Run loop. If the weather cooperates. Probably rent from the Old Town Bike the Sites place unless someone has a better suggestion. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > http://chasingmailboxes.com/2013/10/02/shutdown-diaries-leesburg-loop-via-the-co/ > > I waved off of the C&O portion yesterday but ran into the author of the > above blog on the W&OD, C&O remains tough to 'close' and at least yesterday > had plenty of riders. Still I'm pretty psyched that I completed my first > Century yesterday... ride report coming! > > Tony > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Gov't Shutdown - Leesburg Loop Ride Tomorrow? (10/2)
Steve, Thanks for the heads-up. Hadn't even thought of that. I've used them on the ride to Mt. Vernon in the past. Hoping to do the counter-clockwise loop this time. (It's one I did multiple times when I was out there in 2008). And Tom, thanks for the list of other shops. Didn't know Big Wheel had opened in Old Town. And might also give Wheel Nuts a try. Am hoping to find something with wide enough tires. But no, am not going to use the bike share for that ride. Well, I could, but the extra time would probably equal a day rental from one of the other shops. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On 10/03/2013 06:59 PM, Eric Platt wrote: > >> Thanks for listing that. We'll be out in DC next week and hope to rent a >> bike and get a ride in on Columbus Day. Right now planning to do the Mt. >> Vernon Trail-Custis, W&OD-4 Mile Run loop. If the weather cooperates. >> Probably rent from the Old Town Bike the Sites place unless someone has a >> better suggestion. >> >> > Note that although you are able to ride the Mt Vernon trail, they've roped > off or locked all the rest rooms. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com > . > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunch<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Gov't Shutdown - Leesburg Loop Ride Tomorrow? (10/2)
Steve, that's good to know. In 2008 there were a few fairly rough sections around Alexandria and I remember feeling through the 38mm tires on the Brompton I owned at the time. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On 10/04/2013 08:39 AM, Eric Platt wrote: > >> Steve, >> Thanks for the heads-up. Hadn't even thought of that. I've used them on >> the ride to Mt. Vernon in the past. Hoping to do the counter-clockwise >> loop this time. (It's one I did multiple times when I was out there in >> 2008). And Tom, thanks for the list of other shops. Didn't know Big Wheel >> had opened in Old Town. And might also give Wheel Nuts a try. >> Am hoping to find something with wide enough tires. But no, am not going >> to use the bike share for that ride. Well, I could, but the extra time >> would probably equal a day rental from one of the other shops. >> >> > There's no particular need for wide tires on the loop you are describing. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com > . > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunch<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] A SimpleOne ramble
Okay, this is not as epic as Tony's ride, but since I've had a bit of extra time off, decided to head a bit north of the Twin Cities on Monday and ride part of the Willard Munger bike trail. As it is mostly flat, decided to ride the SimpleOne. Ended up with 68 miles on the day. Both my longest ride of the year and also the longest ride on the SimpleOne so far. The bike was the right tool for this job. Did forget about the one re-route from the old railroad grade. Only about a mile and a half, but basically all up and down. Was okay heading north, but on the way back ended up using the two foot gear for one section where I couldn't carry momentum. Of course, it was at that point where Dave Siskind went flying past me heading north. By the time it dawned on me who it was, he was gone, so can't say whether he was on his custom Rivendell or not. Pretty sure he didn't recognize me. Pics to prove I was there: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/sets/72157636323895894/ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: First Century!
Tony, Congrats on the accomplishment. I've only done a couple of centuries, and they also took all day. The big thing is, you did it. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:30 PM, WETH wrote: > Tony, > Congratulations! That is a great accomplishment. > -Erl > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding
I actually see it as a nice trend to help create a market for more wide tires. And, yes, it's connected to racing, but like Mike said, this is more about informal racing that was part of the earlier years of mountain biking. Not sure that it's that different that the bikepacking movement with frame bags and ultralight equipment. All of it had been done in the past. It's just things coming around again. Can't even say the fatbike movement is new since there were folks in Alaska and Wisconsin running double tires on bikes back in the 1980's. And betting it existed in full form well before then. Guess I'm one that thinks if it gets more folks out there on bikes, good. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Christopher Chen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: >> >> But people often question my bike. Don't they realize I'm out >> there to enjoy myself? > > > I think the smiles on many of our faces pre-empt those questions much of > the time. Honestly, when I ride my Hilsen, I'm beaming all the god-damn > time. I feel sorry for people who look like they're in pain. > > Now if I would only keep my eyes open while riding. > > cc > > -- > "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 50mm tires
On Big Apple vs. Supreme. On the old version of the Big Apple, there was a Liteskin version. That seems to have been better riding than the Supreme. My wife has a set on her bike and she has voiced a preference over either the Supreme or the regular Big Apple. As to the Big Apple itself, the current tire is a different design. Haven't tried it so no opinion. For th lightest 50mm tires, I like the Schwalbe Kojak tires. No tread at all and fairly lightweight at 460 grams. No real protection and I've had flats when I've run them. Then again, I'm probably way too heavy for the optimum use of the tire. Even so, they have a plush ride. Probably not as nice as tubeless Hetres, but still good. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: > I finally have a bike that will take 50mm tires (1995 Trek 820). I bought > this bike as a test vehicle for 26" wheels, which I've never ridden before, > but am interested in on a high dollar bike. My first inclination is to go > with 50mm Big Apples but Schwalbe makes several other tires in the 50mm > size with the Supreme being of particular interest. > > Is the 50mm Big Apple significantly "cushier" than the 50mm Supreme? Is > it the width or is there something different about the design of the Big > Apple that makes it more comfortable. The tires will be primarily for > pavement and I want as light and slick as possible with max comfort. The > Supreme wins in the light & slick category but I don't know if it is as > comfortable. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails
I've had to ease Brooks saddles into seatposts in the past. Not just Nitto. I use Terry saddles and try to be a bit more careful with the setup there. Possibly because the Cro-Mo rails are hollow? They are sturdy as I've never had a problem with a rail bending and have banged them around getting them on a Thomson seatpost. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Michael wrote: > So is it safe to let the seatpost clamp guide the rails into place? > > > If I remember correctly, all my Brookses were 1m off or so, and I just let > the clamps guide the rails in as I tightened. > > I once saw an instruction seat for a Terry saddle that was real > persnickety in warning the consumer that the rails had to fit perfectly > into the clamp. Both fore and aft as well as side to side. They seem to > want their saddles to get mounted on a clamp that fits their saddles just > so. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
Personally, I like the double top tube and think it is a fine marketing tool. Makes the bikes look different enough from other modern steel bikes. (Surly, All City, Handsome, etc.) Don't like the diagatube personally, but that is my own problem. Still somewhat regret not getting a Hunq. But am reasonably happy with my current two Rivendell bikes. And my SH does have a double top tube Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:32 AM, hsmitham wrote: > Patrick, > > Though I'd try to disguise the lower tt as a pump or somthing, Isn't that > style? Your style. The beauty is that you have a choice. but I have seen > a trend toward style, albeit idiosyncratic, over function -- tweed > mudflaps, dual top tubes on smaller frames, and so forth "Sad" about > "style" over "function" the two the two can be mutual, as far as I can tell > "Riv" does a pretty good job of offering an alternative to the myriad of > choices out there and as far as idiosyncratic, thank heaven for > different...and sometimes a design even from the most heralded can fall > short... I bow down to a mistake, for from doing thus I learn. > > I don't intend to be snarky using *red* it's just late & I'm short > cutting it. > > ~Hugh"Style" Smitham > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Have found I can sweat too much with a vapor barrier liner in my bag. Have the one Rivendell sells, but only used it once. Do agree a good pad helps. Have a (Big Agnes?) inflatable pad that packs small. Yes, a bother to blow up every night, but works as well as my big Therm-a-Rest pads used for car camping. Another idea is to get a light wool skull cap and wear it to bed. Have found that can make the difference between slightly uncomfortable and toasty warm. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt <54ca...@gmail.com>wrote: > I have a silk bag liner. It's ok. Probably adds a few degrees but kind of > more hassle than it's worth. My bag is pretty warm and I'm more likely to > need to unzip it in the middle of the night than want for more insulation. > > I use a 3/4 length pad and put a pannier or backpack under my feet if I'm > sleeping on the ground (never my preference). 3/4 length is fine for the > hammock... I sleep like a baby rocking in the breeze. > > --Smitty > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Derailers that handle 36T cogs: shadow vs. non-shadow
Am using a reverse rise LX on my Sam Hillborne with a 36t in the rear for over a year with no problem. Like Jim states, on some the upper pulley might get awfully close to the 36t cog. But it hasn't been an issue for me yet. Hopefully it won't. Am not sure the Shadow designation is for the 36t or more for not sticking out as much from the rear chainstay. Less chance of it getting dinged on a narrow trail. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, James Warren wrote: > > I've been breaking the rules. I have a 12-36 9 speed cassette on 4 bikes, > and I know that none of them have Shadow derailleurs. I thought that some > had Shimano products (newer XT or LX) that were specifically designated as > for 36T, but I could be wrong on that. Either way, I know that two of the > bikes use older XT's that are certainly not designated for 36T. Maybe only > for 32! > > On the Hunqapillar (the one with the oldest XT derailleur), I know I'm > pushing it. When I put the bike in lowest gear and pedal backwards, there > is some cog-bouncing. But when I pedal the bike in the lowest gear, it > works fine. I've climbed a lot of stuff in that gear this past year, and so > far so good. Knock on wood. > > -Jim > > -Original Message- > From: Jim Bronson ** > Sent: Oct 27, 2013 6:15 PM > To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com" ** > Subject: [RBW] Derailers that handle 36T cogs: shadow vs. non-shadow > > On the Rivendell site they list several derailers for sale that can > accommodate the new(er) cassettes with the 36 tooth low gear. The top of > the line Deore XT is a Shadow derailer and is rated by Shimano for up to > 36T. The other three, two Shimano Deores and a Microshift, are non-Shadow, > have published specs that state they only accommodate up to 34T. > > Is this just one of these marketing designations that Grant talks about? > Is there any actual technical reason why the non-shadow derailers wouldn't > work with a 36T cassette sprocket? > > Is it one of these situations to where Shimano is trying to save > ham-fisted operators from themselves and all it really takes to make them > operate properly is the good sense to not cross-chain? > > I am inclined to trust Grant and staff at Rivendell on this. However, I > am curious to see who else out there is running one of the 36T cassettes > with a non-shadow derailer, Rivendell or otherwise. > > I can offer one non-Rivendell datapoint for the Shadow derailer not > working. I bought a "Shimano Deore M592 SGS Shadow Long Cage 9-speed Rear > Derailleur Black" for my 1993 Burley tandem that I recently acquired, for > the sole purpose of supporting the Shimano HG61 12-36T cassette (that > Rivendell sells...) When installed, I discovered that there was > interference between the derailer and the chain in several cogs on the > casette. The pictures that are online don't really adequately show how > high the derailer will orient when installed on a bike like mine. So, > buyer beware. > > I'm thinking of installing the M592 on my Rivendell just to see if it has > the same problems that the tandem does with it. I guess it all depends on > the design of the derailer hanger. > > -- > Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Projects, 2013/14 version
Bill, Sorry for your loss. I totally understand. My father is now riding his bike again after having a heart attack over the winter, just after his 70th birthday. It's a basic steel Rockhopper from about 1989 or so. As for winter projects, only thinking about one. Maybe a set of Albatross bars on the Hillborne. Or Albastaches. Getting a bit o' hand numbness with the Nitto flat bars on rides of over about 25 miles. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:49 PM, hsmitham wrote: > Bill interesting how the reviewer Richard Jow talks about experiencing > flexture on the 25 inch and then goes on to talk about loaded touring, I > wasn't touring way back in 72' but I imagine tour bikes had longer than 43 > cm chain stays for touring. And as the name implies it was designed as a > sport bike. And the lug with daylight humm the distributor in Carson wasn't > doing a through job when loaning it out for review. > > ~Hugh > > > On Monday, October 28, 2013 10:55:33 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> My winter project list involves: >> >> 1. Some wheelset swapping: Dynamo wheelset moves form Hilsen to Rawland >> rSogn. New light weight wheelset goes onto Hilsen. This can't happen yet, >> because the Hilsen is down in Southern California at my inlaws for some >> cycling over the holidays. >> 2. A vintage restoration. I'm taking possession of my dad's 1973 >> Windsor Carrera Sport road bike. I'll be doing a complete overhaul, along >> with some modification and reconfiguration. For hints at what I'll be >> working on, here's a Bicycling Magazine review of the bike: >> >> Bicycling Reviews the 1973 Windsor Carrera >> Sport<http://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g2_itemId=513> >> >> Expect tons of photos >> >> 3. I'll likely be making some more DIY bags/cargo-carrying units. For >> sure for the prototype Hub-Area Rack, and maybe a few others. >> 4. Riding enough to take a run at an SR Series in 2014. >> >> What all do you have planned for the winter? >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Projects, 2013/14 version
Doug, No, the bike has a set of the Surly Torsion bars on right now. Made by Nitto. They sweep back some, but starting to think not enough. For me, it's a weight issue. I have too much. Even with Ergon grips can't seem to keep numbness away. If I could get a set of Soma Clarence to fit, those work better. Strangely, I have less problem on drop bars riding the hoods. Although am coming to discover a preference for a very short reach to the hoods. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Need collectives help on color choice.
My first suggestion would be black. Like the one Jim Thill used to have. Add the cream headtube and it would be nice and elegant. Otherwise, a green like the olive drab Surly has used on the Long Haul Trucker in the past. Or on the new Pugsley Ops. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: > Elton of Harris Cyclery sold a red Atlantis a few months back on this > list, looked real sharp. Search the archives. I like flashy though, always > get smiles in the tangerine dream machine (my orange bombadil) > On Oct 29, 2013 8:37 PM, "Deacon Patrick" wrote: > >> Burnt orange. Colors like that are striking in the city but fit right in >> in the wilds. I love my gray/orange Hunqapillar scheme. >> >> With abandon, >> Patrick >> >> On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:23:36 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: >>> >>> Hi Bunch, >>> >>> New to me Atlantis and having it painted and need you opinions on which >>> color to go with...my first thought was to go with pea soup green like this, >>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**fireman483/8541167230/in/pool-** >>> rivendellatlantis<http://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/8541167230/in/pool-rivendellatlantis> >>> >>> And the second color I'm considering is a burnt orange which I believe >>> this is, >>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclofiend/5871521426/in/pool-** >>> rivendellatlantis/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/5871521426/in/pool-rivendellatlantis/> >>> >>> Sorry for the lake of close up color pictures. >>> >>> I feel as though the orange is a bit flashy as I already have a green >>> flashy so was leaning toward an understated green as my rough stuff >>> tour/S240 beasty. Let me know what cha think and if you have pictures even >>> better. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> ~Hugh >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetre/Synergy safety issue?
Jan, A slight point of order, the chainstays on the Surly Long Haul Trucker are 460mm. And the wheelbase, depending on wheel size, varies from 1036mm to 1105, both on the 26" wheel version. From what I can quickly figure out, the wheelbase difference on a medium sized bike (ca. 58-60cm) is closer to 8 percent longer on the 700C version and nearly 10 percent on the 26" wheel model than a Trek Madone. Getting my numbers from here http://surlybikes.com/bikes/long_haul_trucker/geometry Not saying if it still does, or does not make a difference. Although my personal experience indicates the longer wheelbase does change handling. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Jan Heine wrote: > One of the long-held beliefs of cyclists is that bottom bracket drop > affects the handling. It makes sense - you lower the ride, and the bike > should turn better. However, you need to look at what the important > variable is: It's not the BB drop, not even the BB height, but the center > of gravity of the rider. That is about 3 feet (90 cm) high for most riders. > It's hard to see how 3 mm could make a difference. > > In practice, that is how it tends to work out. For *Bicycle Quarterly*'s > tests, I have ridden a lot of low-trail 650B bikes with the same front-end > geometry, same Hetre tires, but one was an outlier with a BB height that > was way lower. (I suspect an error by the builder, who was new to making > bikes.) The bike handled exactly the same as other bikes with similar > front-end geometry and wheel/tire combination that had BB heights of > 265-275 mm. Even 30 mm didn't make a noticeable difference. (Note that I > rode the bike first, then measured its geometry, to prevent the placebo > effect of knowing that the BB is lower, and hence feeling a difference that > may not be there. It wasn't quite a blind test, but the best we can do with > test bikes.) > > Most modern 'cross bikes have a very different front-end geometry – more > like mountain bikes – from road bikes, which probably explains their > different handling. My old > Alan<http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/10/15/cyclocross/>has a very high BB > (back then, you had to be able to pedal with toeclips > facing down and not scrape the mud), yet its handling is remarkably > "normal." > > Since we are in myth-busting mode, wheelbase is another factor that is > overrated. The wheelbase of a modern bike varies between 995 and 1040 mm. > That is between a Trek Madone and a touring bike with very long chainstays. > It also amounts to just 4.5%. > > Once Peter Weigle and I rode two bikes with identical front-end geometry, > but very different chainstays: A 1954 Alex Singer with 430 mm chainstays, a > modern Peter Weigle with 450 mm chainstays. We switched back and forth > between bikes and could not detect a difference in their stability or > handling. (Chainstay length can affect comfort, because 20 or 30 mm > difference in chainstay length will push your saddle significantly closer > to the rear axle line.) > > We did a detailed article in *Bicycle Quarterly* Vol. 10, No. > 2<http://www.bikequarterly.com/bq102.html>on bike geometry and how it affects > the bike's ride, performance and > handling. > > Jan Heine > Editor > Bicycle Quarterly > http://www.bikequarterly.com > > > Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ > > On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:14:36 AM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote: > >> Lacking any hard data, we can only play with the numbers. 3 mm is >> 25% of 12 mm, which is probably the average difference in bottom >> bracket height between cyclocross and road bike bottom bracket >> heights. People have argued that road bikes noticably turn better than >> cyclocross bikes due to this difference, so perhaps the princess on 4 >> peas would notice the difference! >> >> Toshi >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Jan Heine wrote: >> The difference in tire height (about 3 mm) will lift your center of >> > gravity by about 0.3%. Even the princess on the pea would be >> hard-pressed to >> > notice that! >> > >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Winter came early this year
Not in snow, but in getting a project done. Was able to purchase a set of Surly Open Bars from a co-worker this week. Installed them on the Sam Hillborne this morning while waiting for it to warm up a bit more. Took less than an hour with only one cable housing replaced. Stem is a Dirt Drop from my parts bin. Only have a bit over 20 miles on them so far. About half into a 20-30 mile an hour headwind. Appreciated the second hand position. Able to avoid hand numbness even with cheap grips. May do a bit more tweaking, and could end up using a shorter DD stem. Pic to prove it has happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/10657309295/ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Set of Bicycle Quarterly/Vintage Bicycle Quarterly
All issues Vol 1, No 1 through Vol 11 No 4. There are not mint. They have been read. Vol 1 Nos 1 and 4 are official reprints. 2 and 3 may be, but the paper seems better, so I don't know. No pages torn, but again, these have been read and are not mint. So don't be expecting mint. The whole set new from the publisher would set you back $320. Am asking $150 shipped Priority Mail in the US. If you live in the Twin Cities area and are interested, we can maybe eliminate shipping. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Bicycle Quarterly issues are sold
Pending payment from Daniel Afram. Thanks for the responses. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Catalogue
Mine showed up in Minnesota late last week. Just barely have had time to start reading. Really enjoying it so far. And yes, the ASCII bar designed are the best. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Leslie wrote: > I signed up, I think almost instantly after it was announced; still > haven't seen one, tho'... but being a good bit further east, I'm hoping > one arrives today, perhaps tomorrow > > > > On Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:39:25 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: >> >> I signed in for one as soon as I saw the ad for it, but alas, I guess >>> I wasn't one of the first 5,000 peeps to get it. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter came early this year
Sean - this is a 60cm frame. The bigger size just fits me better on these later bikes. If I had gone with a 60cm on the first run, the reach would have been more. As to why did I buy? Hard to say - did like the Surly Cross-Check I own, but was missing not having a Rivendell. Kevin - the Surly bars do two things different from albatross - first off, they go forward from the stem. Not as much as moustache bars, but enough to give another hand position. Second, the bars do not come straight back like the Albatross, but flare out to the side. Not as much as say the Soma Clarence, or Jones H bars. Have only done a couple of rides on the bike, but find this position more neutral and favorable for my wrists. Sean, for this winter, you might see me on the Hillborne if the weather is really nice. Otherwise will probably be riding my Long Haul Trucker with 26x2" studded tires. Do have studded tires for the Hillborne, but hope to not put them on unless forced. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Kevin Mulcahy wrote: > Can you compare the Surly bars to albatross bars? > > Kevin > Chicago, IL > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto threadless stems?
Have a Nitto threadless stem in my parts bin. It's beautiful and really well made. Unfortunately, don't have a bike right now where it would be the ideal stem. The bike it was on now has a 31.8 handlebar. As to the Thomson - I've used them in the past. Will warn you, if you torque the bolts too much, the face will actually shear apart. Mine started to do that. Luckily removed before it failed completely. This is not a unique to me problem as there was/is a thread on MTBR about the issue. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:24 PM, jinxed wrote: > Absolutely perfect info and great suggestions all. > > I have looked at the IRD and those seem to have a good selection. > > I was focusing on the Nitto brand mainly for their long standing > reputation here with great looking and performing items and it would be > mated to a nitto bar. That and the insider info from Rivendell on the > company. This group is a no brainer to tap for experience on the parts not > often available in person at a shop. > > That said, there are VERY nice offerings being suggested. So many of the > "modern classic" parts are coming with subtle to no visible logos that I've > seen many pictured and didnt know what they were. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap
For frame pumps, I use a strap. Had one fall off on a bike trail once. For me, Planet Bike models seem more likely to do this than a Zefal. The other reason - it helps cut down on the brake cable bouncing off the top tube. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:33 PM, djbardwil wrote: > I have a standalone "L" shaped pump peg (which is part of the frame) on my > Riv Custom on the underside of the top tube that I mounted a Zefal frame > pump to. The pump has only come off when I inadvertently lifted the bike, > not realizing the pump was there; no rattles. I have to compress the pump > by about 3/4" to mount it between the peg and the seat tube. > > However, when I knocked the pump off, it made me wonder how strong that > "L" shaped peg actually is and whether anyone has ever had one break. > > Is this something to be concerned about or not really? > >> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?
For 20's my usual gear is a heavier wool top with a Marmot wind jacket. Not much ventillation. But it works in blocking the wind and cold. Otherwise, it's very variable. Sometimes wool not so tights under MUSA pants. Other times, just the pants. If it's warmish for winter, then maybe an old wool jac-shirt. Or one of the other jackets. Or, maybe this year, the rollynecker or sargent sweater. Feet and hands are my weak spots. Often will wear too much in the way of gloves and risk sweating rather than freezing for most of the ride until I warm up. Leather choppers are nice over any glove of choice. Feet are Keen insulated until I decide to pull out the insulated Red Wing boots. Balaclava if it's windy. Sometimes just wool skullcap under helmet. BTW, in general I'm a wimp in Minnesota riding and commuting in winter. Will usually not ride much below zero these days. Unless it is a short ride. Oh, and in winter my main bike will have studded tires. Don't need it that often, but on dark morning commutes it can come in handy. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Tim Whalen wrote: > In addition to the above: > > Studded tires keep you upright even on unseen black ice. I have Nokians > that I like a lot. > > Wind protection for all sensitive parts. Patagonia used to sell a > windproof brief that worked great. > > I've used vapor barrier socks on my feet and neoprene overshoes for really > cold. I think VB socks would be enough for the 20's. > > Tim > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Bill Gibson wrote: > >> Those days are over for me for now, but I know that a light, breathable >> Balaclava goes a long way. See: >> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ac20.ht<http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ac20.htm> >> m >> I also use an old synthetic fleece one from Patagucci. >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Matthew J wrote: >> >>> Hands, feet and ears need a lot of attention. 180s work for my ears. >>> Many models fit easily under the helmet.. Lobster claw gloves are great >>> when it gets real cold. Alpaca socks are comfortable and very warm. >>> >>> If you can afford it, Schoeller fabric jackets: >>> http://shop.searchandstate.com/collections/all/products/s1-j-riding-jacketand >>> pants: (Swrve, Outlier, Mission Workshop, etc. all have good choices) >>> keep you warm but let perspiration escape. Many of the pants look better >>> some of my auto driving colleagues' corporate casual attire. >>> >>> >>> On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:24:33 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: >>>> >>>> Just curious. >>>> >>>> My commute may get longer soon. >>>> I had been doing partial commutes of 5.6 miles from a park-n-ride, but >>>> would like to work up to the full 16 mile one-way commute one day. >>>> A change in my family's work schedule (3 of us with two cars) may >>>> necessitate this sometimes. >>>> >>>> Any Riv-peeps' cold weather tips? Gets down into the 20's here in the >>>> winter. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bill Gibson >> Tempe, Arizona, USA >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] I like the MUSA Anorak
If I didn't have about eleventymillion jackets would be all over this. The orange would be perfect for winter riding around here. (Bet I'll end up with one in the near future anyway.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > I especially like the gifs. > > <http://www.rivbike.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/newgif3-1.gif> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv/SKS longboards as Bluemels re-enactment
Hmm. He could have ended up in the same place by just replacing the front (and rear) mudflap with the SKS shorty mudflap. Was going to get more snarky about the column but will just let him be. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: POLL: "Leaf Music" on your Longboard-ed Rivendell?
Depends on the ride and how I feel. But usually after a couple of minutes, will stop and pull the offender from the fender stays. On Monday had a stick kick up and had to quickly stop to prevent any damage. In general, the noise doesn't bother. Sort of drowns out the voices. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Anton Tutter wrote: > I just kick it into reverse, that usually flushes 'em out. > > > On Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:50:16 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: >> >> I let it roll while hitting the brakes and pretending to stop in the hope >> that the leaf will want to survive and leave me alone. after a short >> period of time I stop and remove/destroy/burn/rip/tear/hurt the >> offending leaf in an effort to set an example for other leafs that would >> think attaching themselves to my bicycle was ok. >> >> Sometimes they actually disembark in fear.. :) >> >> On Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:58:38 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: >>> >>> Fun question I have wondered what you Riv-peeps do: >>> >>> Do you allow leaf music to go on and on, or do you stop and remove them? >>> >>> My front longboard/leafscoop gets leaved up regularly and I leave them >>> as long as there are no sticks. I hate to stop when riding, but sometimes >>> the music gets to be too much and I have to get them outta there. Sometimes >>> I succumb to the dangerous temptation to use my foot to bang on the fender >>> to get them out. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?
Like some others, was gravitating back towards this style when I found Rivendell. Before my time off the bike, my riding was done on a mid 1980's mountain bike with fenders, flat pedals, upright bars, Brooks saddle and fat(ish) tires. What I've picked up - 1 - wool. Was usually a cotton and/or synthetic person. Especially in winter riding. At that point wool clothing was still fairly itchy and expensive. 2. - Handlebars way, way up there. 3 - saddlebags. Used to always have a bag on the bike. But now they are bigger. Still do most of my commuting with a pannier, though. And camping. 4. riding for fun. While I've done one race since getting back on the bike, most of the riding is just for riding. Or camping, or commuting. But not always with a goal in mind. 5. - S24O Used to think one had to spend a week or more to go bike camping. This was a big revelation. With other things in my life, this is really the only way I can get out and camp. What hasn't worked - 1 - 650B It wasn't a Rivendell bike, but the whole thing didn't work for me. No matter how often I tried to like it. 2 - Brooks saddles. Used to use them almost exclusively. Then just under a year and a half ago my backside revolted. While not as elegant, the Terry saddle has worked well. 3. - moustache bars. Admittedly have not tried a long ride on them, but every time I've tried them out my wrists and hands start revolting. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Dan Abelson wrote: > Wide tires, wool, and platform pedals are the biggest for me. On the not > working so well side albatross bars, and bars well above saddle height. > On Nov 20, 2013 4:28 PM, "Chris Lampe 2" wrote: > >> I think I was attracted to Rivendell because they advocated much of what >> I was already doing. The big differences that work for me: >> >> 1) Grant got me back on steel. I started on steel in 1995 (plus 38mm >> tires and high handlebars) and "upgraded" to aluminum in 2007. Grant got >> me to comparing my steel and aluminum bikes and steel came out the winner. >> 2) Fat tires. With a short, 6-month exception, all of my riding was on >> 35-38mm tires. My inclination was to go skinner. Now I've got 40mm >> Schwalbe and I'm looking for a bike that will let me mount Big Apples. >> That single limitation is my current bikes' biggest drawback. >> 3) Titanium sporks. I like a lot of "bits and pieces" in my salad and >> I've always been frustrated because a fork doesn't work well at the end of >> the salad and I don't like having to switch utensils. I never considered a >> spork because I'd never seen one that wasn't plastic (and breakable) and >> I'd never seen one where the tines extended far enough to actually stab >> baby carrots and grape tomatoes. >> >> As far as what hasn't worked for me, there is only one big one: >> >> Albatross bars. I desperately want to like them but they are the most >> uncomfortable thing I've ever ridden. I've tried them on several different >> bikes with different top-tube lengths and at different bar heights. Having >> my hands nearly parallel to the top tube is just the most uncomfortable >> feeling I can imagine. One of my second-hand bikes had a set of MTB bars >> with 60mm of rise, 10 degrees of sweep and an overall width of 66cm and >> they are perfect. Every time I try a different bar I end up coming back to >> those. >> >> There are still plenty of Riv ideas I haven't tried that intrigue me so >> only time will tell. >> >> >> On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:05:09 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: >> >>> Thought hearing from you all would make an interesting thread. >>> I have been enjoying my Sam for a long time now. >>> I call these RBW ideas because that is where I first heard about them >>> (thought I know they have been around for years, just not embraced so much >>> these days). I was an alu/composite race bike kinda rider until I started >>> to fear carbon failures and wanted to look into an all metal bike. >>> >>> I'll start: >>> >>> *RBW ideas that worked for me:* >>> *1. Wider tires.* This has made a huge diff for my quality of riding. I >>> used to own a typical race bike with 700 x 25, 120psi tires. >>> It was great to ride, but hard to handle as it banged and bounced and >>> tires got yanked around on gravelly, busted up shoulders. Not to mention >>> the fear of getting the narrow tires caught in longitudinal road cracks. >>> Got my Rivendell bikes and have used 32mm-40mm ~55psi tires o
Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.
Maybe putting on narrower tires. The ECR is designed for 3" wide tires and still have a low-ish bottom bracket. At least one early review stated putting 2.4" tires made the bottom bracket too low for some off-road riding. Was really tempted on the ECR. Went for an Ogre. Less expensive and will be able to run tires from about 47mm to 2.3/2.4" without a problem. Okay, and I really wanted that green color. FWIW, the rumor around here is Surly looks at the ECR as what they would have done with the Fargo adventure bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Eric Daume wrote: > Sometimes close enough is good enough. What could you do on the > hypothetical Riv that you couldn't do on the ECR? > > Eric "taking my new Krampus out for its first ride in about an hour" Daume > Dublin, OH > > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Clayton wrote: > >> I have a serious drool going over the Surly ECR 29+ off road camping >> bike. Now, if Rivendell made such a bike, I would absolutely have to sell >> everything I own and get one. Hint Hint Grant? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Big Boy Pants
Reading what the inseam is like on these jeans, and knowing Jim, I've got a great mental picture of the belt being just below his armpits. May order a set of the fatsopants if they shorten the inseam. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < thill@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm going to get a pair of these and report back. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?
I'll be an outlier. If I were to buy a mountain bike (i.e. a purpose designed bike for mainly single and double track, then it would have front suspension. My hands have been damaged over the years and the only way I could ever do "serious" mountain biking is with suspension. That said, I now have a Surly Ogre with 2.3 inch wide tires that I am hoping will be more forgiving. Don't plan to ride it on anything rougher than some double track trails, though. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:14 PM, RJM wrote: > My old mountain bike is a 1996 Specialized Stumpjumper M2 frame with a > front suspension fork and 26" wheels...canti brakes. The bike is in pieces > now because the suspension fork finally gave up. I rode that bike so much, > light, nimble, and just a good time. I would like to get a new fork for it > but just haven't thought enough about it. I just haven't been doing enough > trail riding to build up a dedicated mountain bike now. I would like to. > > My ideal mountain bike would be a Rivendell custom mountain mixte with > 650b wheels and bombadil/hunqapillar tire clearance. A hunqapillar would > work too...and the headbadge is awesome. Something like that will probably > be my third Rivendell. > > I don't think suspension is all that for the riding I do or would do if I > got out into the singletrack more. I know plenty of people who tear up the > trails using dual suspended bikes and they do ride fastit just isn't > for me. I'm now just a little too old to be getting into the kind of > crashes I used to get into...too long to heal properly. I'm just a slower > rider who likes technical stuff, but likes to do it on my own time. > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:48:15 AM UTC-6, David Stein wrote: > >> New to the group. Have a Hunq on order. I've seen a number of threads >> dancing around this topic (including the recent 'Hunqapillar as a true >> mountain bike' thread). Wanted to ask the question a different way, how >> many mountain bikes do you own, what are they, and when do you decide to >> take which bike out? >> >> I just got into mountain biking/trail riding after years of road riding >> (Bay Area, mostly fire roads for now, some single track). I suck at it. >> Trying to get better. Salsa El Mariachi with front suspension. >> My interest is in exploring mostly, not necessarily going fast or racing, >> but that being said I haven't met a downhill that hasn't resulted in a >> crash or three (including the demo ride in Shell Ridge I took the Hunq on). >> When I ordered the Hunq the idea was to use it as an all-rounder (mix of >> fire roads, light trails, city riding, commuting) and my Salsa El Mariachi >> 29er to take on more technical terrain and single track. But after another >> couple more harrowing rides, I decided the Salsa wasn't for me and sold it >> (I think it was the 29er wheel size that I didn't like, I am short and it >> wasn't nimble enough, though maybe it was the general geometry of the >> frame). So now, I'm left with the choice of running the Hunq as my only >> mountain bike with two sets of wheels (2.1 smart sams on one and 1.75 green >> guards on another), or using the Salsa money to buy an additional >> singletrack specific bike with front suspension (and using in conjunction >> with the Hunq, the ole N+1). Curious to what other people are doing. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?
Well, my "excuse" and it is only that, is moderate to severe carpal tunnel syndrome for the past 30 years. Bad enough that my hands can go numb riding a bike no handed. But granted, suspension is only a crutch. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Your elbows don't bend? Grin. I don't mean to be incredulous here. I > genuinely want to understand. I realize the elbow bending requires bending > and strength in the wrist. I just know that too often people think they > need more cushioning, when in fact they would benefit from less to build > strength and flexibility. Not always. Dependis on your specifics. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 6:27:36 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote: > >> I'll be an outlier. If I were to buy a mountain bike (i.e. a purpose >> designed bike for mainly single and double track, then it would have front >> suspension. My hands have been damaged over the years and the only way I >> could ever do "serious" mountain biking is with suspension. >> >> That said, I now have a Surly Ogre with 2.3 inch wide tires that I am >> hoping will be more forgiving. Don't plan to ride it on anything rougher >> than some double track trails, though. >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Compass tires?
Starting to look like my Hillborne might try a new set of tires this year. 700x38 is probably the minimum width for me these days. Very, very tempting. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < thill@gmail.com> wrote: > I thought I had enough bikes, but now I'm tempted to build a new bike > around a pair of these tires! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Change my chain or ride it til it skips?
My rule is after each winter replace chain. No matter how many/few miles. This year will probably only get about 150 to 200 miles on the bike with this chain. But it will go away by late march. Personally not to the point where the cassette gets replaced after winter with that few miles. Although probably should. Winter in MN means lots of sand/salt/chemicals on the roads. It does a number on chains and chainrings. That's also a reason some folks like steel rings. Slower wear. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Chris Chen wrote: > And if you don't do it, eventually your chain, rings, and cassettes will > wear and if you get chainsuck at an unfortunate place, you'll crash. > > So replace the f'n chain. It's $20. > > :) > > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Michael wrote: > >> So is it as easy to do myself as just buying a new 9-speed chain, >> matching the link count and then snapping together the master link? >> >> Any tips? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tires in the Goldilocks zone (was Grant on tires)
Well, glad to know there are some others out there that aren't overly
pleased with the Marathon Supreme. Have used both the 700x40 and the
26"x50 versions. In both sets found the ride to be slow. LIke they are
sticking to the ground. Have always written it off as my excess weight.
Might have to slightly re-think this. But it still is partly due to the
weight, no doubt.
Looking in the garage, it's obvious my go-to tires are more heavy duty.
Mondials, Dureme, and Baby Bens. Want to try some others, but as my
neighbors point out, my garage already looks like a bike shop. Need to
wear out a few sets first. Then again, the new Barlow Pass might be an
excellent fit on the Hillborne.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jason Leach wrote:
> I don't think they will stock the GR is a way to have a better tire. From
> a retail perspective it makes sense to try new things, rotate stock, and
> offer additional products to compliment existing ones. Rivendell has an
> existing business relationship with Soma. To my knowledge RBW has never
> sold Gran Bois or Compass tires but they have sold Pari Motos and Soma
> 650b, in addition to their own 650bx33mm tires. There is precedence to them
> stocking a road tire in 650b. It ill be interesting to see what effect
> having a "mostly roads" tire with the same general dimensions and the GB
> Hetre will have on the tire preferences of their customers. It has been my
> observation that there are a few big reservations to trying more supple
> tires (this is patterned on the assumption that RBW customers {in total,
> not just the subset that read this group} hold a preference toward "strong"
> tires). My assertion is that the "strong" GR tire could nudge new people
> into trying a very supply tire - one that they may very well like. It may
> also move people in the direction of more robust tires options if they
> currently prefer the other end of the spectrum. I would imagine that
> having a second wheelset equipped with the new Soma GR "strong" version
> would be keen for a bike equipped with Hetres (or Compass Babyshoe Pass)
> and fenders.
>
> *I don't mean to infer that supple tires are not strong, some brands are
> in fact very well constructed and last for many miles. I opted for the
> word strong because it allowed for a positive description of tires with a
> reinforced sidewall, all black construction, and thick tread with puncture
> prevention considerations.
>
> Jason
> SF,CA
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, sameness wrote:
>
>> I thought the Big Ben <http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tben.htm> was
>> their "favorite tire of all time... obviously the (p)erfect tire... why do
>> we even sell anything else?"
>>
>> So: Big, nominally knobby, fairly heavy (though not as heavy as they
>> could be with Kevlar), and/but without as much flat or sidewall protection
>> as, say... the Marathon.
>>
>> Jeff Hagedorn
>> Los Angeles, CA USA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Can i ride in hiking boots?
Not a problem at all. Have ridden in either Red Wing or Merrill boots depending on the weather. The only boots I haven't tried are my Sorrel. No reason they wouldn't work. Just don't often bike in weather that needs that type of boot anymore. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Beauty Shots of the Custom are up!
Wowser! Hope to see it in person sometime this spring/summer. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > That's just..I mean..this rarely happens but... Speechless. > > Joe Bernard > Vallejo, CA. > > On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:36:53 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: > >> Hi friends, >> >> If you haven't seen it already, here they are: >> >> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/80720787036/heres-the- >> story-of-our-latest-custom-bike-for >> >> The bike is a treasure. So sure and confident and comfy and beautiful. >> It will go anywhere and everywhere. For a very long time. >> >> I went out on the Saturday Gentlewoman's ride with the local Rivsters. I >> can't really give a full report, though, because I was too sick with an >> upper respiratory thang to venture out in the hills with the rest of the >> gang (thank you Cora for sitting in the shade with me). Any time you >> borrow a saddlebag to tote Dayquill and a box of Kleenex is just not a good >> sign. Anyway, the little riding we did on Saturday lets me know that it is >> a joy to ride and fits like a broken-in pair of wonderful handmade shoes. >> I managed to get in the shortest of descents on a grassy Riv-style hill and >> I was in awe of its stability. Like a mountain goat. >> >> The paint has to be seen to be believed. JB added pearl to the paint >> that you can't see until it's in brilliant sun. And then it flickers and >> dazzles with the most subtle blues and yellows and whites...like you just >> found a treasure on the beach. >> >> Some details: The Select Flyer wasn't just a test saddle; it's the >> saddle. Paul seatpost, thumbies, and brakes; SON hub, White Industries MI5 >> rear hub, brown big bens, phil BB, shimano xt derailer. Will add cedar >> fenders and a nitto mini front rack. >> >> And how wonderful to say to my fellow low PBH friends like Manny: "Take >> it for a ride!" (Rich Lee, you're next in line!) >> >> Once it's set up here in Minneapolis, there'll be more photos and ride >> reports. >> >> Thank you everyone for your knowledge, skill, artistry, support and >> input. And especially Grant, Mark, Mark, Rich, JB, and Keven. >> >> grinning from ear-to-ear, Riv Chica Warrior >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Does anyone use fenders off road?
Have always used non-metal fenders on bikes that go on non-paved ramblings. Had a fender fold-up in the back a couple times. Luckily nothing except the fender was damaged. That's me. Others use metal fenders with no problem at all off-road. Have noticed that leather washers at the mounting points do make a difference. My LHT has metal fenders and works fine. Although rarely take that on anything worse than a gravel road.\ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Nanga Parbat wrote: > Hello RBW OB, > I'm using a late 80's / early 90's Specialized mountain bike with Velo > Orange steel fenders, that were on the bike. Even with the leather washers > the fenders still rattle on trails. Is anyone using fenders for moderate > off roading? Should I try the SKS fenders? > Cheers, > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Have a 1x9 on my Sam Hillborne and it works fine. But I don't do a lot of off-road or really steep hill climbing so the 39 up front with an 11-36 in back is sufficient. If you went with a 32t up front and an 11-36 in the back you'd probably be good to go. Maybe a 30t up front if you want a really low gear. The best thing about a 1xanything is tire clearance with wide tires. Talking 2.7 inches and wider here. On most bikes the inner chainring and largest cogs can get too close to knobs and sidewalls. One of the many reasons that 1x10 is making such good headway. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Ron Mc wrote: > in range, gear inches - you want something under 30 inches and something > over 80 inches. Then make sure you don't have any steps over 8-10 inches. > > > On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:42:09 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > >> Forgot this: >> >> 28.5 38.0 24.0 13.0 83.3 14.0 77.4 15.0 72.2 16.0 67.7 17.0 63.7 >> 18.0 60.2 38.0 20.0 54.2 34.2 23.0 47.1 29.7 27.0 40.1 25.3 >> I don't find that shifting the 9 speed is any harder than the previous 7; >> both home made cassettes and Silver shifters. >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> Why not a 1X9 with granny? I use the middle and inner rings on the XD2, >>> with bashguard on the outside. I hardly ever use the 24, but I see no good >>> reason to remove it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: >>> >>>> I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. >>>> here is the gear ration range comparison: >>>> >>>> In gain ratios: >>>> >>>> Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be >>>> dropping): >>>> 1.5 - 6 >>>> >>>> 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) >>>> 1.6 - 4.7 >>>> >>>> 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) >>>> 1.3 - 6 >>>> >>>> I don't really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 >>>> from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I >>>> would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? >>>> >>>> I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is >>>> practical. I'd love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add >>>> significantly to the number of hills i'm walking, especially when >>>> bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I >>>> will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. >>>> But then it's better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and >>>> enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. >>>> >>>> All wisdom deeply appreciated. >>>> >>>> With abandon, >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org <http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org>* >>>> *www.OurHolyConception.org <http://www.OurHolyConception.org>* >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. >>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >>> Other professional writing services. >>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >>> Patrick Moore >>> Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update
Based on Avery's experience decided to put drops on my Sam Hillborne. Also with a Dirt Drop stem. Only had one 30 mile ride on it so far. Definitely is different. Still haven't decided it will stay this way or not. The reach to the bars is still about one inch further than my personal ideal. If my weight wasn't so high right now, it would be easier, of course. Did find my Nitto 115 bars which have a shorter reach, so that helps. And a good chunk of yesterday's ride was into a 25 mph headwind, which kept me on the hoods or in the drops. Will give it a month or two. Current setup here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/13747187905/ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: > I am 190 and running my Barlow Pass tires at 65 rear and 60 front. I may > try an go a bit lower to see if things get better (they areally nice as > is). It is all pretty subjective when it comes to preference. Start > somewhere, keep track and experiment. Road surface, conditioning, length of > ride, mood, amount of sleep, weather will all play a role/ :0 > > > On Monday, April 7, 2014 10:18:07 PM UTC-4, ted wrote: >> >> In my last exchange with Jan he asserted rolling resistance was basically >> i dependent of tire pressure, baring riding flat tires and very high >> pressures (or maybe it was ultra high). I don't think he mentioned 15% drop. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Heavy chain lubes for wet conditions.
Used to use Phil's in winter here in Minnesota as it was one of the few that didn't wash off immediately. Stopped using it when it became obvious that the tenacious oil not only sticks, but lets things like sand, salt and other abrasives stick just as well to the chain. Not only did I ruin a chain each winter, also a freewheel and chainring. (This was back in the 1980's when still in college.) Nowadays, I'm not as picky. During wet weather or winter will grab whatever lube is closest. Bioshield is excellent. But have used many of the others just because I have bottles sitting on a shelf. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Zack B wrote: > > Riding year round in SF and PDX, I have experimented with almost every > chain lube available in extremely wet conditions. > > The problem with wax lubes is that boiling your chain in wax is a major > pain in the ass, and while the wax lubes do a good job of staying on the > outside of the chain (where lubricant is not actually needed), they quickly > wear off the inside parts of the chain (where the lubricant is needed). > > The best solution that I have found is a combination of a heavy oil, such > as chainsaw oil or Phil's, and a light oil, such as WD-40. > > The advantage of a heavy oil is that it will stay inside the chain for > much longer than a light oil will, especially on a chain that is being > soaked in the rain. The problem is getting it inside the chain where it is > needed, rather than all over the chain, the chainstay, and your legs, where > it is a nasty mess. > > The simple solution is to coat the chain with WD-40 first, thus creating a > thin film of light oil that allows the heavy oil to slip easily into the > pivot, and then to wipe the outside of the chain off. You don't need any > more than a single drop of heavy oil per pivot. > > The other option is Boeshield. This creates a tacky film much like a chain > wax. It does not lubricate as well as a heavy oil, but stays on the chain > much longer and will likely protect it better against rust. > > > > -- > -Zack > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the Hillborne with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The answer > was more like "If you reach the point of being serious about this, we'll > talk." I wasn't talking with Grant though. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > > On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? >> >> On 4/17/14, hsmitham wrote: >> > I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems that >> the >> > rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. There >> are >> > many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think your >> Hung >> > can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just seems >> that >> > >> > based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make sense. I >> > know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat tires. >> I >> > have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they didn't >> seem >> > that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime in. >> Also I >> > >> > think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say Colorado >> > Springs and test ride some. My 2 cents worth and then some. >> > >> > ~H >> > >> > On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: >> >> >> >> At some point in the future I will likely need to beef up my front rim >> to >> >> >> >> an Atlas to match my rear rim. At such point replacing the front hub >> with >> >> a >> >> dynamo/drum brake combo hub is something I am toying with, especially >> as >> >> I've found more area dirt roads to ride and nighttime rides would open >> up >> >> >> >> some things. My questions are as follows: >> >> >> >> Drum brakes: >> >> -- Why are drum brakes not used much? >> >> -- How practical are they for rugged, steep single track? >> >> -- It seems they would address the snow/mud/muck loss of braking >> issues I >> >> sometimes experience. Is this true? >> >> -- Does my frame need anything special, or will they simply go on? >> >> >> >> Dynamo: >> >> -- How hearty are they (and the accompanying lights) on rugged single >> >> track? Will they hold up or be fussy? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> With abandon, >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org <http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org>* >> >> *www.OurHolyConception.org <http://www.OurHolyConception.org>* >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an >> > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
Anne, Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker in the light at those speeds. Just thinking about Patrick and wondering if that would cause balance issues. Also it is possible (probable?) the newer lights have a better capacitor and don't flicker as much. That's why I mentioned the Cyo, which is on all my bikes at present. Have also used the Lyt and it does the same thing. Granted, both are cheaper lights by B&M. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > My dynamo works at speeds a lot lower than 5-6 mph. > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Eric Platt wrote: > >> One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds >> climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes >> around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it >> happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. >> >> As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire >> selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that >> will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) >> >> BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the Hillborne >> with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to ride. >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: >> >>> I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The answer >>> was more like "If you reach the point of being serious about this, we'll >>> talk." I wasn't talking with Grant though. >>> >>> With abandon, >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? >>>> >>>> On 4/17/14, hsmitham wrote: >>>> > I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems that >>>> the >>>> > rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. >>>> There are >>>> > many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think your >>>> Hung >>>> > can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just >>>> seems that >>>> > >>>> > based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make sense. >>>> I >>>> > know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat >>>> tires. I >>>> > have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they didn't >>>> seem >>>> > that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime in. >>>> Also I >>>> > >>>> > think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say >>>> Colorado >>>> > Springs and test ride some. My 2 cents worth and then some. >>>> > >>>> > ~H >>>> > >>>> > On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> At some point in the future I will likely need to beef up my front >>>> rim to >>>> >> >>>> >> an Atlas to match my rear rim. At such point replacing the front hub >>>> with >>>> >> a >>>> >> dynamo/drum brake combo hub is something I am toying with, >>>> especially as >>>> >> I've found more area dirt roads to ride and nighttime rides would >>>> open up >>>> >> >>>> >> some things. My questions are as follows: >>>> >> >>>> >> Drum brakes: >>>> >> -- Why are drum brakes not used much? >>>> >> -- How practical are they for rugged, steep single track? >>>> >> -- It seems they would address the snow/mud/muck loss of braking >>>> issues I >>>> >> sometimes experience. Is this true? >>>> >> -- Does my frame need anything special, or will they simply go on? >>>> >> >>>> >> Dynamo: >>>> >> -- How hearty are they (and the accompanying lights) on rugged >>>> single >>>> >> track? Will they hold up or be fussy? >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks! >>>> >> >>>> >> With abandon, >>>> >> Patrick >>>> >> >>>> >
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
SON hub on two bikes. Shimano 71 series on the other. All three lights are Lumotec IQ Cyo models. One with the senso function, the other two with just on and off. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > I'm using a SON dynamo, and and older light. I don't remember which light > it is, but it's five or six years old. > > Trying to figure out what light to install on my new bike. It has to be > something that clamps on the bars. > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:55 AM, David Banzer wrote: > >> Eric and Anne. >> What dynamo hubs are you using with which specific lights (a few Cyo >> models now)? Might help to have that information. >> David >> Chicago >> >> >> On Friday, April 18, 2014 5:56:19 AM UTC-5, EricP wrote: >> >>> Anne, >>> >>> Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker >>> in the light at those speeds. Just thinking about Patrick and wondering if >>> that would cause balance issues. Also it is possible (probable?) the newer >>> lights have a better capacitor and don't flicker as much. That's why I >>> mentioned the Cyo, which is on all my bikes at present. Have also used the >>> Lyt and it does the same thing. Granted, both are cheaper lights by B&M. >>> >>> Eric Platt >>> St. Paul, MN >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: >>> >>>> My dynamo works at speeds a lot lower than 5-6 mph. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Eric Platt wrote: >>>> >>>>> One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds >>>>> climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes >>>>> around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it >>>>> happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. >>>>> >>>>> As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire >>>>> selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that >>>>> will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) >>>>> >>>>> BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the >>>>> Hillborne with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to >>>>> ride. >>>>> >>>>> Eric Platt >>>>> St. Paul, MN >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The >>>>>> answer was more like "If you reach the point of being serious about this, >>>>>> we'll talk." I wasn't talking with Grant though. >>>>>> >>>>>> With abandon, >>>>>> Patrick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/17/14, hsmitham wrote: >>>>>>> > I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems >>>>>>> that the >>>>>>> > rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. >>>>>>> There are >>>>>>> > many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think >>>>>>> your Hung >>>>>>> > can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just >>>>>>> seems that >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make >>>>>>> sense. I >>>>>>> > know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat >>>>>>> tires. I >>>>>>> > have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they >>>>>>> didn't seem >>>>>>> > that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime >>>>>>> in. Also I >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say >>>>>>> Colorado >>>>>>> &
Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
Trail debate? How about Root River Trail system vs. Elroy Sparta? One paved, one not. Unpaved has three good tunnels. Oh, not that type of trail. Never mind. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > My Ram also feels much quicker than my former Sam. I don't know if it's > tubing or geometry, but the Sam, nice as it was, wasn't a fast road bike. I > daresay that the Roadeo feels faster than the Ram. > > Regarding Riv versus low trail Rando: one thing that Riv has is a > particular handling quality that I, for one, really like. I've not found > this on other bikes, at least to the same degree (so much so that, even > after 20 years, getting on one of the benchmark Rivs after riding other > bikes for a while still surprises me with the difference in "turn in" and > fit). I gather that this "turn in" quality is incompatible with optimum > front load geometry. > > As to "planing" or at least bikes that feel faster, for me that is > separate from handling, since I've ridden bikes whose handling I didn't > particularly like that somehow encouraged me to go faster. I still think > that fit and geometry in relation to build, gear choice and pedaling style > play a part in this feeling. I at any rate haven't experienced "planing" in > the sense of light tubing and speed -- don't know if the general feeling of > a frame being faster counts as "planing"; the lightest frames I've ridden > (at least, I assume that 531C standard gauge is lighter tubing than the > Rivs I've owned) haven't felt particularly spritely. > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:27 AM, RJM wrote: > >> Well, I don't know about the rando bikes since I haven't owned one, but I >> will say that my Roadeo (ligher tubing) is faster feeling and quicker >> riding than my Sam Hillborne. But, I can't load up the Roadeo for camping >> like I can the Hillborne, which is certainly the more versatile bike. I >> don't know if the Roadeo has "oversized tubing" but it is a quick feeling >> bike and livelier than my hillborne, probably because of geometry and >> tubing differences. >> >> Could a rando bike be the end all be all for me? No, I don't think so. I >> need two, one for camping and one for club riding. I don't ride Rando >> events and would feel quite limited with just a handlebar bag for when I do >> go camping/touring, and I feel it may not be quite the best pick for club >> riding. >> >> >> > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you
Made me smile, too. BTW, it reminds me that the book Road to Valor is a nice biography of Bartali. Not sure if all allegations are true, but if so, he really was a hero in more than just racing. Pretty sure this book was talke about on this list when it came out. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM, hsmitham wrote: > Tom, > > Thank you for bringing a smile to my face. The great Gino Bartali smoked > too and won two tours 10 years apart. On some level they must have known it > wasn't beneficial to their riding? Or maybe not. > > ~Hugh > > > On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:33:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: >> >> and maybe not <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202183233317395> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you
Thanks, Hugh. Didn't see this earlier today. Eric Platt On Apr 25, 2014 12:27 PM, "Hugh Smitham" wrote: > http://www.amazon.com/Road-Valor-Cyclist-Inspired-Nation/dp/030759064X > > I have it if you'd like to read it. I can mail it to you. > > ~Hugh > > “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep > moving.” ― Albert Einstein > > http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ > > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:46 PM, GeorgeS wrote: > >> Eric: Who is the author of Road to Valor? >> George Strickler >> New Orleans, La. >> >> >> On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:40:54 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: >> >>> Made me smile, too. BTW, it reminds me that the book Road to Valor is a >>> nice biography of Bartali. Not sure if all allegations are true, but if >>> so, he really was a hero in more than just racing. Pretty sure this book >>> was talke about on this list when it came out. >>> >>> Eric Platt >>> St. Paul, MN >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM, hsmitham wrote: >>> >>>> Tom, >>>> >>>> Thank you for bringing a smile to my face. The great Gino Bartali >>>> smoked too and won two tours 10 years apart. On some level they must have >>>> known it wasn't beneficial to their riding? Or maybe not. >>>> >>>> ~Hugh >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:33:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: >>>>> >>>>> and maybe not <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202183233317395> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/wdouYE4j7sQ/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
Each bike has either a muti-tool or a Park WTK-1 kit. Then in the handlebar bag is usually a Park MT-1. Try to also have a small Swiss Army knife on each bike. Had been carrying 1 tube per bike, but after a recent spate of flats, may go up to two. Also, all the kits have a chain tool of some sort. Have twice helped folks with busted/twisted chains to get back on the road. Yes, I'm way over-prepared. For 99 percent of my riding could get by with the MT-1 and a tire lever. Still prefer the mental safety net of the extra tools. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > I have a tool set for each of my bikes inspired by Tool Kit B: > > http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-003/000.html > > One of my kits has a Ritchey CPR 14 as shown, the rest have the smaller > CPR 9. They fit into an Altoids-type can very well. In addition to the > tools shown, I have a tiny Swiss Army folding pliers thingy in one tool kit > and in another I carry a small jackknife that was my Dad's. There is a > surprising amount of stuff that can be put into an Altoids can. > > FWIW Tool Kit A is Jobst Brandt's. > > I have several Cool Tools that I have picked up over the years and would > be my tool of choice when touring. It's a pretty complete package that can > do most things that need to be done on the road with a bike. One of the > comments on the Pardo site is very important: the best bike tool is > preventive maintenance- periodically inspect the bike for things that are > wearing out or breaking. The best bike part failure is the one that > doesn't happen. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)
Sorry, It was a quote from multiple James Bond movies. By an actor who played a character named "Q". Knew I shouldn't have said anything. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 3:46 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Not being a follower of Q, I wouldn’t know … Or is that what I would say > if I WAS a follower of Q? > > --Eric Norris > campyonly...@me.com > Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy > YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy > > On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:49 AM, EricP wrote: > > Isn't the correct response "Pay attention 007?" > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 10:59:21 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: >> >> >> On 8/10/20 11:37 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: >> >> I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat >> tube decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion: >> >> >> So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of >> those related conspiracy theories. >> >> Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest. >> >> >> Isn't that exactly what you would say if you were "Q" himself? >> >> >> Steve Palincsar >> Alexandria, Virginia >> USA >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/47006d54-7bbe-40ce-94f7-2d815d029dcfo%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/47006d54-7bbe-40ce-94f7-2d815d029dcfo%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/POGm38ZEik8/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2E8B87B9-535F-4B45-9538-800DB3D6047C%40me.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2E8B87B9-535F-4B45-9538-800DB3D6047C%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAC%3DA9uJi3JcAoxPEQvL4XG40eWeLU3qseGdFccveTsC0McHxxQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne vintage
Patrick, You're right. I had forgotten the first green ones were canti. For some reason had it burned in my brain mine was sidepull. Just checked some old photos. Nope. Canti mounts. Looks like I was using V brakes for most of the time. Wonder if it was because the Tektro long sidepulls weren't available yet? I can't run tires over 40mm and fenders on mine now. Would love to run 42 to 45 with fenders. But am so used to this bike don't want to move it on and start over with another one. Not that it matters right now as the only bike getting ridden is the Clem L. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 9:00 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > I had a first edition Sam, all green with no cream or white, > pre-double-top-tubes, and with cantilever brakes. Orange and sidepulls > obviously came afterward. > > Why did Rivendell start using calipers on the Sam? Cantilevers are a > natural for this, for wider tires and fender clearance, especially as (I > think) the later designs accommodated wider tires than the first ones. > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:33 AM EricP wrote: > >> Yes, I believe it was first green, then orange, solid color. Had a green >> one. It's possible they were both available for a while. Then it was the >> blue with white/cream headtube option. Still sidepull brakes. And double >> top tubes on the big sizes. That's the model I still have. Believe the next >> batch after that went to canti. Really wish I had waited for that version. >> But of course had no idea it was in the works. >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >> On Friday, No >> > -- > > --- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/iQAlTCYBd3w/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgu3UXk5Cizgge4qyfByQ4k3Sr%3D3%3Dwm1N3qWEc8jrcO3NA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgu3UXk5Cizgge4qyfByQ4k3Sr%3D3%3Dwm1N3qWEc8jrcO3NA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAC%3DA9uLgGuXUU1dDyYbJ6%2B9iJfsFBjvScT4RGooqtAodNpxHkQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: odd knocking sound on front end - ideas?
Sounds like the headset is loose. Had a similar issue on the SimpleOne. Mainly was a noise when pulling on the bars. Finally tightened it down and that sound went away. Took about a quarter turn and then tighten. Now have a different sound, but am in the process of correcting the issue. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:34 PM, William wrote: > If it is a loose headset you should be able to grab the front brake hard > and push the bike front-back-front-back and feel the click and the knock. > Let go of everything and bounce the front end on the ground and you should > hear the rattle. If that's it you may be able to grab the front brake hard > with your right hand, and put a finger from your left hand between the > lower headset cup and the fork crown race and feel the gap open and close > when you push the bike front-back-front-back. > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Extended commute
Nice. Your rides are making me jealous. So, have to ask - how do you describe the differences between the Quickbeam and the SimpleOne? Just heavier tubes or something else. For my riding style, the SimpleOne works great. But always want to hear about the other models. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J < thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote: > ** > Headed out early enough this morning that I could extend my normal commute > out the Northern Delaware Greenway to the PA state line, an extra 18 > miles. No load this morning, so I took the Quickbeam -- a little less > Clydesdale-ish than my SimpleOne: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7255985638/sizes/o/in/photostream/ > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7255984660/sizes/o/in/photostream/ > > Less than 1 1/2 miles of this 22 mile loop was on pavement -- a great ride. > > But now all I'm doing is staring out the window, plotting how I can get > back on the bike this afternoon! > > -- > > > To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you > that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice > contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under > the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions > or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any > tax-related matters addressed herein. > > > > This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. > If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) > 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any > email) and any printout thereof. > > Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their > professional qualifications will be provided upon request. > > == > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] cameras and biking
Seem to remember Grant was using a second strap to go around his chest to keep the camera in place. Tried it, but found it sub-optimal for my riding style. First, I sweat a lot, and that gets all over the camera. Not a good thing on a digital. Even my rangefinder looked pretty ugly very quick. And I didn't like the feel of something pulling down on my neck. Might not be as much an issue on an Albatross or similar bar bike. For longer rides where a larger camera is along, it's either in the saddlebag, or a Hobo bag up front. Most of the time a point and shoot is adequate for my needs, though. Have been thinking about this as I'm trying to figure out what cameras to take on the Rivendell Ride Midwest next weekend. And how to carry them best. Go with zoom digital and film, or intentionally limit myself to think about the photo? Eric Platt St, Paul, MN On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Brian Hanson wrote: > I'm curious of those who bring a small SLR or mirrorless camera on trips, > have you found a good way to carry it so you have it ready quickly? I've > always used a small point & shoot kept in a pocket or the small pocket in > my acorn boxy rando bag. I'm looking for a way to have a larger camera > ready to photograph the scenes I'm biking by on longer rides. I seem to > recall Grant talking about some kind of harness a few years back? > > Brian > Seattle, WA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: rene herse crank
Maybe a race to the bottom bracket. Can understand why folks would pay the premium for a low Q nicely made crankset. Not all of us need low Q, though. Have no problems with Sugino XD2 on a 110 bottom bracket on my Sam Hillborne. But that would have a huge Q factor for many. For my use, it's more comfortable. (Was going to compare it to 650B, but am not going there again.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > Is this a race to the bottom? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: cameras and biking
Except for certain film cameras, wouldn't try it myself. I just sweat way too much on rides. Would probably destroy a modern digital camera in a ride or two. It has sort of forced me to focus on smaller point and shoot digital cameras, which are easier to put in handlebar bags. Eventually should spring for a Leica X1 or Fuji X100 or similar. Just can't warm up to the idea of spending a large sum of money on something that is more a toy to me than a tool. And will probably be obsolete or broken in a year or three. This does remind me, need to get a film camera ready for this weekend's ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt <54ca...@gmail.com>wrote: > try bandolier style but put it "further back". Like too far back. I find > with the right riding position there's a sweet spot where the camera is > more sitting on my upper back rather than hanging from the strap. It'll > comfortably ride there for a long time without moving or getting in the > way. Probably doesn't work as well off road. > > I've contemplated making some sort of handlebar/stem holster for my camera > but it hasn't happened yet. If you come up with a solution, would love to > see some pics. > > --Andy > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: cameras and biking
Steve - thanks for reminding me of the LX5. Had completely forgotten about it. Have an LX3. While I love the image quality, hate the easily moved dial. Lost about 20 percent of my photos while in Washgton DC in 2008 and in San Diego in 2009 because of the wrong settings. User error, but it still bothers me. Most of the time I've been using either a Ricoh GRDIII or lately, a Fuji point and shoot. Sort of like restricting myself to a prime lens, but frankly think the 28mm on the Ricoh is too wide for outside on the bike. The Fuji is more than acceptable for my uses and it has excellent low light capabilities. Did see a couple of nice options last night at a get together at Hiawatha Cyclery for Grant's book tour. Something more to think about. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On 5/31/12, Brian Hanson wrote: > True, but I'm used to zooms, and it was time to start working with primes > (for me). I'll suffer through it - probably end up with a zoom soon :) > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > >> On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 17:18 -0700, Brian Hanson wrote: >> > I almost went with an LX5/S100, but got a GF3 with a pancake lens so I >> > could get on the replaceable lens format while still keeping the body >> > very small. There was a killer deal on it a few weeks back, so I took >> > the plunge. So far, it seems to be nearly as easy to use while riding >> > as my old Elph. Just need to nail a good harness... >> >> But that leaves you with just the one focal length (or needing to carry >> multiple lenses to get multiple focal lengths). That might not be much >> of a big deal for "ordinary photography," but when you're taking photos >> on a bike ride you often don't have the time to get off the bike and >> walk around to get close enough. >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grant in Minneapolis was Most Excellent!
You missed my SimpleOne! Oh, and the Grant designed Soma that's for sale at the shop. Otherwise, it's complete from what I remember. There were two customs at different times. Dave Siskind had to leave early. Was great to finally meet Grant in person. With all the folks, food, and drink it was a memorable day. Fun to meet some of the "pixel pals" in real life. And to catch up with some of my other friends that I hadn't seen in a while. A huge thanks to everyone involved. And the fun continues tomorrow with the Midwest Rivendell Rally in starting in Red Wing, MN. Still don't have the camping gear packed. Oh, and Liesl, that's a way cool turtle spotting. Am jealous. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On 6/1/12, Liesl wrote: > What a great evening at Hiawatha Cyclery. Good people, tons of bike > eye candy, heaps of meat and beer, and a most gracious guest of > honor. And a special bonus, Grant's daughter was there too. Many > jokes about every time her dad visits, the Betty Foy gets more > reflector tape stuck to it. Rivs represented: Custom, Atlantis, > Quickbeam, Saluki, Hilson, Beriot, Protovelo Bleriot, Hillbourne, Foy, > Hungapillar Diagatuber...Am I missing any that were there? Also nice > to match list-serv posters with faces and to meet list-serv lurkers! > Finished off with an adventuresome sunset ride into Minnehaha Falls > and the trails around Fort Snelling. Many flooded low spots left > unforded; however, we did see what I'm pretty sure was a large spiny > soft shelled turtle in the water! > > http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=76&Itemid=26 > > It was really wonderful. Thanks Jim and crew for all your hard work > and generosity. And thanks Grant for you support and friendship. > > Liesl Riv Chica Warrior who is not embarrassed to walk up a steep hill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Mid-West Riv Ride - Overnight Parking
John, Thanks for checking. Was wondering where to park tomorrow. The park, it is. Looking forward to this. Haven't done a really serious climb with the Hillborne loaded up. Should be a good test first thing in the morning. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:23 PM, John Blish wrote: > > This information is for a limited audience but I have no way to address > them directly without going through this list. Yes, I could wait and tell > you tomorrow morning but for some, including me, having this information > before you leave can be a comfort. > > I called the City of Red Wing and found out where it will be safe (no > ticket, no tow) to leave a vehicle overnight (Saturday night) while we ride: > > 1. Target lot. This is fine but you need to check in with Target > manager, let her know your vehicle and plate # and when you will return. > The PD recommends this because Target lot has security cameras. Target > phone is 651 388 7704. Best to call today since they will just be > opening tomorrow about the time we plan to meet. > > 2. Bay Point Park. This is the same place we are going to meet at 8 - 9 > a.m. on Saturday and it is the place from which we will start. The park > closes at 10 p.m. to vehicles but not to pedestrians. Capt. Darryl > Glander, who is a bike rider himself, says it is OK to leave a vehicle at > this location overnight and that there is no history of vandalism or theft > of or from vehicles in this area. This will be my choice since it is just > one night and it is to convenient to where we meet. > > I was very impressed with the help from Red Wing PD. - could not have been > nicer. > > Best wishes. See you tomorrow. Californians and East Coasters - eat your > hearts out thinking about us out here riding in this beautiful relatively > unspoiled area. > > Just Ride > > John > > -- > John Blish > Minneapolis MN USA > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grant in Minneapolis was Most Excellent!
Liesl, Not an issue. The bike was inside, and easy to pass over. We all were wandering around admiring the fine rides outside. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Liesl wrote: > Dang Eric! No slight intended on the SimpleOne! In fact, I was > thinking of it and then remembered I'd forgotten the Foy, and in the > process got the Foy in but forgot the SimpleOne. Is it old age or a > hangover? No, no, I didn't drink that much... -RCW > > Oh and PS: Grant rode a Nice Ride (https://www.niceridemn.org/) bike > and raved about the whole concept. Yep, the Twin Cities are bike- > friendly. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally Midwest
Ted, Excellent photos. Glad to have finally met you in person, both at the shop on Thursday and the ride on Saturday. Today's part of the ride was another adventure, but I bailed out before the last serious gravel climb of the day. All told, the trip was 80 plus miles with about 20 or so on gravel roads. And six water crossings. In fact, the Red Wing, Minnesota water crossing today was up about 6 inches from yesterday. Only time I got my feet wet. The part Ted rode with us was on multiple back roads in Wisconsin, with lots of climbing. We scaled the bluffs twice. And were rewarded by two amazing downhills. One at high speed, the other, not so fast, but perfect road conditions and essentially no auto traffic. Could have been better. Saturday night the group that was left stayed in Wabasha, Minnesota, either camping or at a hotel. Had a late start this morning, and immediately began climbing for about 4 miles. Not the most difficult grade, but persistent. Figured it couldn't have been that steep as I didn't use the small chainring today while on Saturday my Sam Hillborne used all of the 21 gears available. The views from the road was fantastic and the descent into Lake City, MN was exciting to say the least. Topped out at 37mph which is the fastest the SH has done with a camping load. After a stop, wound up on another country road that turned to gravel, and then back to pavement. After a bit of decisionmaking near Frontenac, decided I would ride back to Red Wing by way of Highway 61. A decent paved road, but with heavy traffic on a weekend. The rest of the group ended up heading over to Hill Ave to climb another bluff on a gravel road with a pretty serious descent. (Have done the road in the past and didn't feel up to it today.) Highlights of my ride back included seeing a number of deer, including one doe and fawn at the corner where Hill Ave. dumps back onto 61. We also saw an immature bald eage with a fish fly directly above us in Lake City. Was also great to meet a few other folks and just have a great bike riding weekend. My pictures are here - http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/sets/72157630035172498/ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Frank Brose wrote: > Thanks for the pics Ted. One ride I wanted to attend was this but my > work load said no way. I knew Jim would put together a great ride. > Jim looks like he's going to cross te continental divide. Nice > pictures and now I'll try to slip out of my state of manic depression > for not being able to make it. > > On Jun 3, 12:12 pm, Ted Durant wrote: > > The weather gods smiled upon Jim Thill's excellent organization of the > Riv Rally Midwest. Unfortunately, I had to leave at the end of Saturday. > I'm sure they're enjoying another epic, scenic tour today. > > > > Some photos from Grant's appearance at Hiawatha, the ride from > Minneapolis to Red Wing on Friday, and the ride from Red Wing to Wabasha on > Saturday. Outstanding riding and company. Thanks, Jim. That was fantastic! > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/7627416@N06/sets/72157630029377718/ > > > > Ted Durant > > Milwaukee, WI, USA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grant in Minneapolis was Most Excellent!
Here are my digital photos. Will notify if I add others in a day or two. http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/sets/72157630036777900/ Took so long as I was out of town over the weekend at the Midwest Rivendell Rally. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:36 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Agree: I would like to see them too. > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:26 AM, thalasin wrote: > > Does anyone have pics to post from this shindig? I think we'd all > > love to see them! > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." > > Flannery O'Connor > > - > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally Midwest
And I'm the one in the long sleeve seersucker shirt with blue helmet and the Hobo handlebar bag on the early Sam Hillborne. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < thill@gmail.com> wrote: > I'll identify myself with a nice run-on sentence. In Ted's photos, I'm > wearing a blue t-shirt and I have a buzzcut and I'm riding the green bike > with brown tires and I just discovered a new enthusiasm for adhering more > strictly to my paleo diet because it looks like I'm plumping up a bit. A > couple others are regular participants here, so I'll let them identify > themselves by whatever nym or pseudonym they prefer to use. There was also > a group of three friends, younger twenty-something guys, two on LHTs and > one on a Centurion ProTour. I'm not sure to what extent, if any, they are > familiar with Riv or how they heard about the ride, but they were good > companions and I was happy to meet them. > > Rivs in attendance: AHH, SH, Hunq, and a Protovelo. Also represented were > the aformentioned LHTs and Centurion, a Curt Goodrich (mine), a Bilenky > cross-style/sport-touring bike, a Surly Cross-check, another LHT, and a > mustard-color Salsa Casseroll. Next year it's not going to be called a "Riv > Rally", but a "country bike rally", because that's a more accurate > description of what it was and what I want it to be. > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally Midwest
Realized while heading home on Sunday (and it was brought home by looking at Jim's photos) that no one photographed the water crossings. The Rustic Road we took in Wisconsin had four of 'em. No one crashed or got overly wet, although we came close on one. Still, it's something you don't see every day. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < thill@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks to everybody who joined this event! Here's my synopsis of events, > in mostly photo-format. > > http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/06/photos-from-rivendell-rally-of-2012.html > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Women Lurkers! Behold the Pedal Wrench!
Even regular guys can like that wrench. Have both it and the regular Park tool and the Eldi gets more work when I feel like swapping pedals. Most of the times, I'll get the right direction on the second try. And here's an interesting find - the small 4" Park adjustable wrench opens up just wide enough to fit a pedal. Works for emergencies. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Me wrote: > Mine is "Back off." And yes, the bike does need to be upright for that > one too. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 7, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Cyclofiend wrote: > > > > > On Jun 7, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Liesl wrote: > > > >> Greetings Riv Chicas who read more than post! If you're like me, you > have been in situations where you didn't have quite the right tool and/or > didn't have quite the 'nough strength. I myself have uttered choice words > whilst attempting to remove/install pedals. 1) A normal open-ended wrench > is often too thick to fit in there, and 2) if it does fit, it's too short > for my small 53 year-old women's hands to loosen them when they're tight > and I'm trying to remember that the left side is reverse threaded. > > > > My well-used mnemonic: > > To REmove pedals, turn to the REar of the bike. * > > > > (*Assuming the bike is upright, and the wrench handle is above the > pedal.) > > > > and, yes, a real pedal wrench is invaluable! > > > > - Jim / cyclofiend.com > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What’s Driving the 650B Explosion? Interviews, Tech Breakdown & More! - Bike Rumor
Strange, from my personal riding perspective, I've come to prefer wider (37 to 40mm) 700C tires. Whereas, my attempt at liking 650B was so sub-optimal I shall refrain from trying again. The handling seems to work best for me with those tires. And there are sufficient tires (and bikes) available to make me happy. Am trying to decide if 26x2.00" is also worth keeping. As it may be more useful on midwest gravel roads. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Jan Heine wrote: > > I think there's a better chance I'll be > > struck on the head by a meteorite than that we'll live to see the pro > > peloton switch to 650B. > > That is why I said: "From a purely technical perspective..." > > However, things can change. In the 1980s, bicycle tourists were told > to use 27" wheels, because you always can get tires for those, whereas > 700C can be hard to find... Today, you'll have to look hard for a 27" > tire. > > Jan Heine > Editor > Bicycle Quarterly > http://www.bikequarterly.com > > Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Ritchey...check this one out
Funny thing - here in Minnesota, Ritchey bikes are more than somewhat rare. Except for Time Mc's road, I've only seen one or two other bikes in almost 30 years. Maybe it's just me. Then again haven't seen a Fat Chance in the Twin Cities in a long time, either. Must be me. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > Beautiful. Mid-'90s mountain bikes are pretty great. > > Joe "95 Marin Indian Fire Trail" Bernard > Vallejo, CA. > > On Friday, June 8, 2012 1:49:11 PM UTC-7, SISDDWG wrote: > >> "I'll guess 96ish?" Yep that look right. The decals are almost >> identical to the ones on my Ritchey Road Logic that I bought in 1996. >> My Road Logic is as clean or cleaner than the soft tail. Both are >> great bikes! Thanks for those photos. >> >> On Jun 8, 11:35 am, jinxed wrote: >> > Every once in a while a bike will come through our service department >> that >> > stops me in my tracks. This is one of those. >> > >> > A beautiful Ritchey soft tail with basically a full build of period >> correct >> > XTR. I'll guess 96ish? Like a time capsule from one of the most >> exciting >> > times in MTB. >> > >> > Such a clean use of the Ericson suspension. Being a light weight >> climber >> > (back in the day), the first gen SID rode like a dream for me and I can >> > only imagine this bike would have been knocking on the twisty >> singletrack >> > nirvana door. I hope it's on the way back to the trails after whatever >> > service is being performed. >> > >> > I only had my phone but managed a few pictures.<http://www.flickr.** >> com/photos/42027576@N00/sets/**72157630081887166/with..<http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/sets/72157630081887166/with..> >> .> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hO5Fl2ng-RkJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bosco handlebar gets my feet numb
Looked like it was perfectly safe to me. What could possibly be the worst that could happen? Maybe one could call it "fake". No way any place would have bike paths that empty in summer! (After having a bad day, this made me smile.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Frank Brose wrote: > Isn't that dangerous with your shoes untied? > > On Jun 11, 3:16 am, Olivier Chetelat wrote: > > Fantastic for the hands, decent for the feet. > > > > And there's a video to prove it: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/7360864854/ > > > > Good Monday! > > > > Olivier > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycle Courier In Love with My Atlantis
I'd almost be willing to bet that the majority of the Rivendell bikes in the Twin Cities were not sold by Jim at Hiawatha. At the book signing, there were a good half dozen Rivendell bikes I've not seen in person before. Eric Platt Misfit and proud of it On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM, dougP wrote: > Jim observed that "I always find it surprising that people in other > places don't see more Rivs > in the wild. I see several per week aside from my job. Minneapolis > must be > a hotbed of misfits!" > > I hear there is a really active Rivendell dealer in the Twin Cities; > that may account some for the popularity in that area. :) > > "Mainstream cycling" in So Cal is so racer focused that being a > "cycling misfit" actually puts one cloer to the real world. > > dougP > > > On Jun 14, 9:19 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery > wrote: > > I used the term "cycling misfits" above in the most loving possible way. > > Almost every Riv owner or fan feels alienated from mainstream cycling in > > some way. Given the objective weirdness of mainstream cycling, being a > > misfit in this context is nothing to be ashamed of! You can categorize > > yourself based on how you don't fit in to the dominant cycling paradigms. > > I'm not going into specifics. > > > > I always find it surprising that people in other places don't see more > Rivs > > in the wild. I see several per week aside from my job. Minneapolis must > be > > a hotbed of misfits! > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:14:01 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: > > > > > In fact, this should be a group question -- everyone sing along! > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL) > > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:13 AM > > > To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' > > > Subject: RE: [RBW] Bicycle Courier In Love with My Atlantis > > > > > Can't resist asking, Jim -- in your (I assume better informed than > mine, > > > since I've never encountered another Riv of any kind in my neck of the > > > Eastern Meglopolis) view, how many of those distinct groups are there, > and > > > can you name the ones other than the "tatted and pierced > > > anarchist/punker/hipsters"? I desperately need to know to which group > I > > > belong (raising whispers of Groucho in my mind). > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: > > > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill - Hiawatha > > > Cyclery > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:37 PM > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: [RBW] Bicycle Courier In Love with My Atlantis > > > > > Among the various distinct groups of "cycling misfits" that are drawn > to > > > Rivendell, the tatted and pierced anarchist/punker/hipster is well > > > represented. I was going to point this out in the Riv meets Riv in the > wild > > > thread, to point out that not all Riv-types have much in common, aside > from > > > bike brand choice. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u6vOJKYl-j0J. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise > you > > > that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice > > > contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and > > > cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties > under > > > the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law > provisions > > > or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any > > > tax-related matters addressed herein. > > > > > > *
Re: [RBW] Re: Honjos
It is not that important to all. While I have fenders on all my bikes it just isn't an issue if I need to spend some extra time to make a bracket or spacer. More concerned whether I can fit 50mm tires with side knobs on 60mm fenders. Not an issue with plastic but pretty important with metal due to the rolled edge. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 16, 2012 3:28 PM, "Steve Palincsar" wrote: > On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 19:58 -0700, RonLau wrote: > > we should demand more from builders to do the job correctly the first > > time. > > +1 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Poster
My order is in the queue. Along with a Bosco t-shirt. Am happy not knowing what it looks like. In fact, I haven't even visited the artist's website too look at his other work. This way won't be unduly influenced (either good or bad) in comparison to his other work. That reminds me, have to eventually get my latest Hiawatha Cyclery poster in the frame. Have both the poster and frame. They just haven't met up yet. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Jim M. wrote: > I stopped by RBW and picked up a poster today. It's beautiful, and it > includes a 6-page explanation of the process. I'm not posting a sneak peak, > though. I wouldn't want to spoil the surprise. > > jim m > wc ca > > > On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:07:20 AM UTC-7, Allan in Portland wrote: >> >> The Petersen-Style-Ride is always a surprise. It's one of its many >> charms, and definitely Petersen-Style. >> >> -Allan >> >> On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:30:33 AM UTC-7, Zack wrote: >>> >>> I like a surprise. Precious few of those any more! >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/roOaM54JljQJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What are your favorite blogs?
Erik, Don't know about others, but I use Google Plus for the blogs I read. It also shows up on my (not so) smartphone as "News". Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM, erik jensen wrote: > Thanks for mentioning my blog Jim, and I just thought I'd post to let you > all know that I am posting yet again after a brief work-imposed hiatus. > > How do you all prefer to keep track of your blogs? I have been considering > moving away from bookmarks and using RSS. Perhaps there's a better way I'm > unaware of. > > Cheers, > > erik > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < > thill@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Facebook and other "social networking" sites have led me away from blogs, >> which I used to read voraciously in ye olde days. I'm making a conscious >> effort to read more blogs. Current favorites are: >> http://whileoutriding.com/ >> http://www.pushingthepedals.com/ >> http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/ >> >> I prefer blogs about touring/bikepacking/adventure more than ones about >> equipment fetishism (of course, that's usually a neat sideline, whether the >> fetish is bikes, camping gear, or cameras). Good/unique writing, photos, >> and perspective are necessary. I can only handle a small number of "artful" >> photos of handlebar twine or Phil hubs or fixed-gear chainline, but I'll >> put up with it if there are enough words and photos from cool rides/tours. >> >> What are you folks reading? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qdoIOkj6OqcJ. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > oakland, ca > bikenoir.blogspot.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: My favorite bike invention!
My favorite? Might be the larger sized frame Surly LHT available with 26" wheels. Am able to realize what I had been trying to get my bikes to do back in the mid 1980's. Somewhat wide tires, with long chainstays and drop bars. And yes, an Atlantis will do the same thing, but frame sizes above 56 restrict one to 700C wheels. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:38 PM, ted wrote: > 42/52 and 13-23 eh? I recall 44/52 and a 14-18 straight block. > Of course after 30+ years and a relocation, now I'm thinking about > 28/44 and a 12-36. > > On Jul 2, 9:43 am, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > OK, admittedly a bit, ok a lot, off topic... but Riv people have a > > nuanced relationship with technological biking "advancements." So > > consider this a philosophical inquiry. (Perhaps even GP will be > interested > > in this unscientific survey) Yesterday as I was out for a very pleasant > > couple of hours riding in the Green Mountains on my Ram, I had a certain > > insight into what has added the most to my cycling pleasure during the > last > > 35 years. It was clear. The "compact crank"! > > > > When I took up cycling, as an adult, with full Campy equipment,typical > > gearing was a 52/42 mated to a 13-23. Even then being wimpy I used a > 13-26 > > and discovered that despite Campy's claims my NR derailler would handle a > > 28. Still big hills, let alone mountain passes, were agonizing. Now > with > > a 44/30 & 11/28, I can cruise up 8% grades in a near 1 to 1 ratio, and > > manage the occasional 10-14% ramp without distress even though I am 30 > > years older. Of course longer 10+% mountain climbs want lower gears. I > > believe that the compact crank has also driven both front and rear > > derailler development, yielding crisp shifting over just enough wider > range > > to make a go-fast set up appropriate for tackling lots of hills. > > > > Of course, learning the speed and joy are independent variables has also > > helped a lot. But pain and joy are not. > > > > S what bicycle development has added the most to your enjoyment > > during your cycling career? > > > > Michael > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] The New Riv
I can see it being done. Especially with low-tier Shimano components. (Think Tiagra or no-name). Most of which appear to work just fine. And there is probably a modern equivalent of old seamed, straight gauge tubing. The wheels might be the toughest part. It's something I'll keep an eye on, although I do have two Surly bikes that fulfill the role of "beater" (or better) quite well. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > I probably shouldn't get too revved up about this model..the Simple One > didn't come in a size small enough for me. > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 4:22:29 PM UTC-7, Seth Vidal wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Peter Pesce wrote: >> > Interesting. A Simple One with a derailer? >> > I too am curious how you get the price down. It certainly wouldn't save >> anything to cast new, plain lugs just for one bike. Does the head tube >> badge really add that must cost? >> > >> >> A simple one with a rear derailler? - see - that I would have no >> trouble endorsing. :) >> >> -sv >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rCak1eLF2FwJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Poster--What to do now that you have it
Mine showed up today. Yeah, it is better than shown on the interweb. Wasn't sure I'd like it when the first version showed up. But, it's very good. For some reason, looks like "California" to this person from fly-over land. It's now in a Target frame on the living room wall. For anyone who cares, an 18x24 frame works swell. Had to take down the Rivendell bike model poster to make room. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:57 AM, islaysteve wrote: > Given the prices some here are posting, I might have to order the supplies > and do it myself. I have an idea of the type of frame I want, so as to > compliment the style and period look of the poster. I will probably take > it to the framer that I've used before for an estimate. Cheers everyone, > Steve > > > > On Saturday, June 30, 2012 6:12:09 PM UTC-4, Mike On A Bike wrote: >> >> I had no idea how (seemingly) crazy expensive pro framing is. I was >> quoted $150-300 depending on how fancy by a local frame shop. >> >> I'd really like to split the middle between museum-quality display and >> thumbtacks in the wall... what are the options? I really like >> William's idea of frameless mounting on inch thick sturdy stuff. >> Anybody have similarly less costly options? >> >> On Jun 30, 5:47 pm, Kevin Mulcahy wrote: >> > I got mine framed and matted. >> > >> > Semi-fancy frame, colored matte to match the print, UV protectant glass >> to >> > protect the colors, and a slip on back to house the "info" that came >> with >> > it. With labor, it came to about $230. >> > >> > Kevin >> > in steamy Humboldt Park, Chicago > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rPrlWzj0QtMJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
