Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for helmet mounted rear view mirrors?

[SeanMac]

I've used a mirror from HubBub cycles for at least ten years.  Here is a 
link to their latest version.  It is a bit pricy, but worth every penny.

HubBub Helmet Mirror 


Sean

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[RBW] FS/T: nitto tallux 26mm-07cm

[WETH]

FT/S Nitto Talux Stem 7cm reach, 26mm clamp, 225 height
Brand new, never mounted, still has plastic cover over wedge.  Plastic bag has 
hole where I tore it open.  I miscalculated, and it's not what I need.
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/st1.htm
Photo here: http://flic.kr/p/r98PJi
$65 shipped (conus) or trade for small/medium MUSA pants (not knickers). PayPal 
preferred.
Email off list and thanks,
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[RBW] 650b Commuter Tires: Actual Width of Schwalbe Big Ben & Pasela PT

[David Banzer]

Anyone know the actual width of this guy: 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tben-10138r.htm
& this guy: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tpp-10142.htm
I've been using the new PariMotos, which ride great, but I have gotten a 
few flats, exclusively in wet weather, and would rather not worry about 
changing a flat in the rain anymore.
Any info is much appreciated.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

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[RBW] FS: Sugino wide/low 40/26 with bash guard

[Christian]

SOLD

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 57cm AHH frameset

[Preston S.]

I don't suppose you would be interested in a trade for the rodeo or hampsten 
for a 57 Romulus? 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 16" Terry Classic lugged steel bike (complete or frameset only)

[saintruggler]

SOLD

On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 8:18:54 AM UTC-7, saintruggler wrote:
>
> For sale is my wife's Terry Classic. Designed specifically for a smaller 
> (4'9"-5'3") lady, the frame and fork were made in Japan using the highest 
> quality lugged steel. The bike was custom designed by Georgena Terry, with 
> a smaller (24"/520) front wheel and standard (700c) rear wheel. Feel free 
> to Google the old Terry bikes to read more about their quality and unique 
> design. I believe this is the 16" model in light purple/magenta. Classy 
> paint job! 
>
> I am selling the complete bike, with touring wheelset (Sun/XTR rear, 
> Weinmann/Suzue front), Planet Bike fenders, rando drop bars with 
> short-reach Tektro brake levers, Dura Ace brakes and Dura Ace bar-end 
> shifters for $500 plus actual shipping costs. The tires currently mounted 
> are 1" Panaracer in front and 32mm Schwalbe Marathon in rear. The frame has 
> braze-ons for front and rear racks. I will include matching Tubus Tara and 
> Cargo racks for $75 more to whomever buys the bike, or $100 separately. 
> Make an offer on the frameset + wheelset only. 
>
> I will make a deal for a local (PDX) cash buyer. 
>
> Email me off list at the_struggler AT hotmail DOT com. Photos upon request.

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[RBW] Re: FS: coleman green 56cm Quickbeam

[abarr...@olypen.com]

Sale Pending. . .

On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 2:37:32 PM UTC-7, abar...@olypen.com wrote:
>
> Ok, it's time to sell my 2004 Coleman Green Quickbeam.
>
> Here are the details:
> Nitto Noodle bars 44cm.
> 90mm Nitto stem
> Bell
> Wired Cyclometer - Specialized Sport
> Selle-Anatomica Saddle - Brown
> Tubus Cosmo Rear rack
> No Name Aluminum Fenders - rear modified to accommodate repositioning 
> wheel when changing gears
> Sugino XD Cranks - 170mm
> 40t and 32t gear rings
> 18t freewheel
> Chris King Headset
> Cane Creek Brake levers
> Paul Neo-Retro Cantilever Brakes - Silver
> Schwalbe Marathon tires 700x32c - nearly new.
> Araya TX310F Rims
> Suzue high flange with sealed bearings - rear is flip-flop
>
> Decals are rough (thanks to stupid bike rack. . .), but I have new decals 
> sets from Rivendell
>
> http://s866.photobucket.com/user/abarrell/library/Quickbeam
>
> $1300 + shipping costs.  I will charge you what it costs.
> I am located in NW Washington State, on the Olympic Peninsula.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Where is Clem?

[Norman R]

Clem brochure: 
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzo7-V-zcAdRY2M1TVh6Y0ZZeUE/view

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 11:58:25 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote:
>
> I see the clem and clementine under the Bike Models section. 
>
> On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 4:05:37 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> Where is Clem? 
>> Why is this bike hard to find?
>> Does Rivendell REALLY want to pre-sell it?
>>
>> Because if you go to the website, you will not see it, unless you type, 
>> "Clem" into the search box. 
>> It is not on the homepage.
>> It is not under Bike Models.
>> It is not under New and Good.
>> It is not under web specials.
>> It is not under promotional.
>>
>> So if you are on this list or a friend of someone on this list, you may 
>> have heard of it and go to the site and type in "Clem" and find it and 
>> pre-buy it, otherwise, how would you?
>>
>> Maybe through BB&H?
>>
>> It is a cool business model, if you take "cool" to mean: not many people 
>> know about it, under-the-radar kind of thing. And we all like those, don't 
>> we.
>>
>> Yours in the Clem-shibboleth,
>>
>> Edwin
>>
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[RBW] Re: OC Dirt riding adventure teaser

[KC]

Where is that trail in OC?  

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
> https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/46035786@N07/17112954092/ 
>

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[RBW] Re: OC Dirt riding adventure teaser

[dougP]

Terminal points are the Irvine train station and San Juan Capistrano 
station.  The route runs inland along Serrano Creek to Whiting Ranch, over 
a ridgeline to O'Neill Park, the down Trabuco Creek to SJC:

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7183179

We got going around 9:30AM, had lunch in Trabuco Cyn, and hustled down the 
trail to catch trains around 2:30.  It was the second round of beers and 
the stop to weigh our bikes at the Path bike shop that caused us to cut it 
close.  

dougP

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 8:11:50 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> Where is that trail in OC?  
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>>
>> https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/46035786@N07/17112954092/ 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Where is Clem?

[Wayne Naha]

Dude!  How did you find that .pdf?  That is some super sleuthing right 
there.  Very informative.

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 12:00:11 AM UTC-4, sameness wrote:
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> I get the feeling maybe some people are viewing cached pages. Open the 
> page and hit CTRL + F5?
>
> Both models are available for sale on the New & Good 
> , Bike Models 
> , and the Clem Smith 
>  pages.
>
> There's even a (possibly) comprehensive PDF 
>  for 
> both models.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: OC Dirt riding adventure teaser

[David Yu Greenblatt]

https://flickr.com/photos/65787090@N02/sets/72157651497793088


> On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:26 AM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> Terminal points are the Irvine train station and San Juan Capistrano station. 
>  The route runs inland along Serrano Creek to Whiting Ranch, over a ridgeline 
> to O'Neill Park, the down Trabuco Creek to SJC:
> 
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7183179
> 
> We got going around 9:30AM, had lunch in Trabuco Cyn, and hustled down the 
> trail to catch trains around 2:30.  It was the second round of beers and the 
> stop to weigh our bikes at the Path bike shop that caused us to cut it close. 
>  
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 8:11:50 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>> Where is that trail in OC?  
>> 
>>> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>>> https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/46035786@N07/17112954092/
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Re: [RBW] Re: OC Dirt riding adventure teaser

[cyclotourist]

This appears to be a fantastic route that Doug and Noel put together.
Linking all of the unpaved portions of Orange County to make a great
ride! I had local commitments, or else I would have definitely been
there

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
 wrote:
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/65787090@N02/sets/72157651497793088
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:26 AM, dougP  wrote:
>
> Terminal points are the Irvine train station and San Juan Capistrano
> station.  The route runs inland along Serrano Creek to Whiting Ranch, over a
> ridgeline to O'Neill Park, the down Trabuco Creek to SJC:
>
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7183179
>
> We got going around 9:30AM, had lunch in Trabuco Cyn, and hustled down the
> trail to catch trains around 2:30.  It was the second round of beers and the
> stop to weigh our bikes at the Path bike shop that caused us to cut it
> close.
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 8:11:50 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>>
>> Where is that trail in OC?
>>
>> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>>>
>>> https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/46035786@N07/17112954092/
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Re: [RBW] Re: OC Dirt riding adventure teaser

[James Warren]

I would have no objection to repeating it path for path (for Path).


On Apr 12, 2015, at 9:25 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

> This appears to be a fantastic route that Doug and Noel put together.
> Linking all of the unpaved portions of Orange County to make a great
> ride! I had local commitments, or else I would have definitely been
> there
> 
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://flickr.com/photos/65787090@N02/sets/72157651497793088
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:26 AM, dougP  wrote:
>> 
>> Terminal points are the Irvine train station and San Juan Capistrano
>> station.  The route runs inland along Serrano Creek to Whiting Ranch, over a
>> ridgeline to O'Neill Park, the down Trabuco Creek to SJC:
>> 
>> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7183179
>> 
>> We got going around 9:30AM, had lunch in Trabuco Cyn, and hustled down the
>> trail to catch trains around 2:30.  It was the second round of beers and the
>> stop to weigh our bikes at the Path bike shop that caused us to cut it
>> close.
>> 
>> dougP
>> 
>> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 8:11:50 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where is that trail in OC?
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
 
 https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/46035786@N07/17112954092/
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Re: [RBW] Re: OC Dirt riding adventure teaser

[cyclotourist]

At one point there were two possible dates thrown about, might have to
put that second one back into play due to popular demand!

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 9:39 AM, James Warren  wrote:
>
> I would have no objection to repeating it path for path (for Path).
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2015, at 9:25 AM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> This appears to be a fantastic route that Doug and Noel put together.
> Linking all of the unpaved portions of Orange County to make a great
> ride! I had local commitments, or else I would have definitely been
> there
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
>  wrote:
>
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/65787090@N02/sets/72157651497793088
>
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:26 AM, dougP  wrote:
>
>
> Terminal points are the Irvine train station and San Juan Capistrano
>
> station.  The route runs inland along Serrano Creek to Whiting Ranch, over a
>
> ridgeline to O'Neill Park, the down Trabuco Creek to SJC:
>
>
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7183179
>
>
> We got going around 9:30AM, had lunch in Trabuco Cyn, and hustled down the
>
> trail to catch trains around 2:30.  It was the second round of beers and the
>
> stop to weigh our bikes at the Path bike shop that caused us to cut it
>
> close.
>
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 8:11:50 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
>
> Where is that trail in OC?
>
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/46035786@N07/17112954092/
>
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[RBW] Re: Where is Clem?

[Norman R]

The link is there when you click on Clem or Clementine.

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 12:16:35 PM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote:
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> Dude!  How did you find that .pdf?  That is some super sleuthing right 
> there.  Very informative.
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 12:00:11 AM UTC-4, sameness wrote:
>>
>> I get the feeling maybe some people are viewing cached pages. Open the 
>> page and hit CTRL + F5?
>>
>> Both models are available for sale on the New & Good 
>> , Bike Models 
>> , and the Clem Smith 
>>  pages.
>>
>> There's even a (possibly) comprehensive PDF 
>>  for 
>> both models.
>>
>> Jeff Hagedorn
>> Los Angeles, CA USA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: OC Dirt riding adventure teaser

[KC]

This is (sorta, close enough) our stomping grounds. And, if I'm reading 
correctly, that looks like my kind of riding - avoid cars if possible.   Is 
this an area that would be fine for my hetres, or do i need something more 
flat-resistant? Any caveats? Really appreciate this group, so thx in advance 
for whatever input you have.  

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[RBW] Re: OC Dirt riding adventure teaser

[Deacon Patrick]

That is some fantastic trail!

With abandon,
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[RBW] Grant's review in WSJ

['richard sulkes' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Check out Grant's review of Bike Battles: A History of Sharing the American Road, by James Longhurst, in the book section of yesterday's Wall Street Journal. Well written, and I was curious how that review found itself in the Journal.Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad



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Re: [RBW] Grant's review in WSJ

[Patrick Moore]

Is there any way for someone who does not subscribe to get behind the
paywall to see the text?

Thanks.

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> Check out Grant's review of Bike Battles: A History of Sharing the
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> Street Journal. Well written, and I was curious how that review found
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Re: [RBW] Grant's review in WSJ

[Patrick Moore]

This one worked for me:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fbook-review-bike-battles-a-history-of-sharing-the-american-road-by-james-longhurst-1428695593&ei=OrEqVY_HH5LvoATilIHADg&usg=AFQjCNEYncIK3nM-gV7mvFt29hxmB5HGtQ&sig2=4p1YqE7yeznldIzmUnQnYw

*http://preview.tinyurl.com/p8yjcev *

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Is there any way for someone who does not subscribe to get behind the
> paywall to see the text?
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:39 AM, 'richard sulkes' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Check out Grant's review of Bike Battles: A History of Sharing the
>> American Road, by James Longhurst, in the book section of yesterday's Wall
>> Street Journal. Well written, and I was curious how that review found
>> itself in the Journal.
>>
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[RBW] FS/T: nitto tallux 26mm-07cm

[WETH]

Trade finalized. Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Grant's review in WSJ

[Patrick Moore]

Well written review; it looks like the Comments section is calling the
usual idiots out of their holes.



On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> This one worked for me:
>
>
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fbook-review-bike-battles-a-history-of-sharing-the-american-road-by-james-longhurst-1428695593&ei=OrEqVY_HH5LvoATilIHADg&usg=AFQjCNEYncIK3nM-gV7mvFt29hxmB5HGtQ&sig2=4p1YqE7yeznldIzmUnQnYw
>
> *http://preview.tinyurl.com/p8yjcev *
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any way for someone who does not subscribe to get behind the
>> paywall to see the text?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:39 AM, 'richard sulkes' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Check out Grant's review of Bike Battles: A History of Sharing the
>>> American Road, by James Longhurst, in the book section of yesterday's Wall
>>> Street Journal. Well written, and I was curious how that review found
>>> itself in the Journal.
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad 
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Re: [RBW] Re: OC Dirt riding adventure teaser

[dougP]

" Is this an area that would be fine for my hetres, or do i need something 
more flat-resistant?"

It's mostly decently maintained dirt roads, but there are some rocky 
portions.  We had a variety of tires.  David had some pretty serious 
looking knobs, Ian was on Smart Sams, Robert was on Rock'n'Roads (I think); 
I was on a Marathon Supreme & Marathon Plus combo (no good reason, just 
what was around).  This route isn't too demanding of tires, other than some 
skill at rock avoidance.  Come to think of it, we had no flats and no 
mechanicals.  

dougP

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 10:30:01 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> This is (sorta, close enough) our stomping grounds. And, if I'm reading 
> correctly, that looks like my kind of riding - avoid cars if possible.   Is 
> this an area that would be fine for my hetres, or do i need something more 
> flat-resistant? Any caveats? Really appreciate this group, so thx in 
> advance for whatever input you have.   
>

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[RBW] Doug and Noel's Brilliant Route in Orange County, CA

[James Warren]

I finally got my collection together from this top-5-alltime ride yesterday. 
Huge thank you to Doug and Noel for creating the route that I want to do again 
soon:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/16495335804/in/set-72157651913517411/



This ride had the ideal country dirt roads that I often dream about. And the 
middle of the ride had a mexican restaurant stop with beer on a great patio in 
a shady canyon with amazing people. In the second half of the ride, there was 
lots of fun singletrack! And when we were done in San Juan Capistrano (riding 
on appealing roads without car traffic almost up to the last pedal stroke) our 
path took us right up to the train boarding point so that each of us could 
either get home or back to our cars on Metrolink in under an hour (15 minutes 
back to Irvine for me.) I don't know how you can have a more perfect day on the 
bike.

We even weighed our bikes at a shop enroute. I have a feeling we were hoping 
for high numbers. Mine came in at 44 lbs. or so. The lowest was Noel's at 33 
lbs, and the greatest was 49.5 lbs. Curtis wins! All the bikes were loaded to 
varying degrees. Curtis's riding made me a firmer believer in the downplaying 
of bike weight.

-Jim W.

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Re: [RBW] Doug and Noel's Brilliant Route in Orange County, CA

[James Warren]

Wrong link. Here is the right link:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157651913517411/


On Apr 12, 2015, at 11:48 AM, James Warren wrote:

> 
> I finally got my collection together from this top-5-alltime ride yesterday. 
> Huge thank you to Doug and Noel for creating the route that I want to do 
> again soon:
> 
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/16495335804/in/set-72157651913517411/
> 
> 
> 
> This ride had the ideal country dirt roads that I often dream about. And the 
> middle of the ride had a mexican restaurant stop with beer on a great patio 
> in a shady canyon with amazing people. In the second half of the ride, there 
> was lots of fun singletrack! And when we were done in San Juan Capistrano 
> (riding on appealing roads without car traffic almost up to the last pedal 
> stroke) our path took us right up to the train boarding point so that each of 
> us could either get home or back to our cars on Metrolink in under an hour 
> (15 minutes back to Irvine for me.) I don't know how you can have a more 
> perfect day on the bike.
> 
> We even weighed our bikes at a shop enroute. I have a feeling we were hoping 
> for high numbers. Mine came in at 44 lbs. or so. The lowest was Noel's at 33 
> lbs, and the greatest was 49.5 lbs. Curtis wins! All the bikes were loaded to 
> varying degrees. Curtis's riding made me a firmer believer in the downplaying 
> of bike weight.
> 
> -Jim W.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Grant's review in WSJ

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Patrick, the link you posted directed me to a paywall. 

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RE: [RBW] Grant's review in WSJ

[olofstroh]

Hope this gets trough.

Olof Stroh
Uppsala Sweden

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Patrick, the link you posted directed me to a paywall. 

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Re: [RBW] Grant's review in WSJ

[David Hallerman]

For any article in the WSJ, don't use provided links.

Instead, copy the article title and use it for a Google search.
By going through Google, that will open the door for the WSJ piece, such 
as this one.


On 4/12/15 3:14 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

Patrick, the link you posted directed me to a paywall.



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Re: [RBW] Coolest cycling cap?

[tarik saleh]

Thanks David and Jim,

I do really like all the randy jo ones, and I am selling some TSBC
ones right now, $34 shipped in the US, a light weight wool one and
a regular weight, preorders through 4/20. See:
http://tsaleh.blogspot.com/2015/03/new-tsbc-cap-time.html

I will probably have some extras when they come in, but if you are anything
other than medium, it is best to preorder. They come in your choice of 4
sizes.

I am also gonna do a few randi Jo brooks saddle covers with the TSbC logo
on the underneath part, contact me if interested.

The lightweight wool is very nice, but it is hard to beat the synthetic
ones when it is super hot.  If I get my deal together I will do a run of
tsbc synthetic waltz caps in the future. I like the way those fit.

Later

Tarik




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> I have a lot of caps, but my coolest one is my Tarik Saleh bike club cap.
> Yes, Randi Jo makes these awesome wool caps for many folks, but this is the
> only one that starts conversations: "who is that", etc.  And my kids think
> it's just 1% less-weird than my other cycling caps!
>
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[RBW] Re: OC Dirt riding adventure teaser

[Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado]

James,
Thanks for sharing. I lived out there '74-'90. I wish I would of known 
about that route. Back then I rode mostly on pavement with skinny tires. 
One of our club rides started at Santa Ana train station and we rode down 
to Del Mar or San Diego and back then the rail road would let you put your 
bike in the baggage car on the last train of the day for the return to the 
train station.
What a fun ride for you all.  What a great group! Enjoyed the pictures.
Jon


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> https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/46035786@N07/17112954092/ 
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[RBW] Tough Eggs

[Deacon Patrick]

Had a great grocery run today (and about to get the literal fruits of my labor 
with a blueberry shortcake! Yes, it’s grain free, and except for the fruit 
close to carb free too. Don’t ask how. My wife and daughters work magic with 
their baking.)!

Anyway, on the way home, I forgot two critical facts: I have eggs in my 
panniers and there was significant, deep washboard on the road on the way up. I 
remembered the washboard when it reminded me of its existence as I was flying 
downhill with a great tail wind. I remembered the eggs as I was maximizing my 
simultaneous use of breaks and build in Hunqapillar shock absorbers.

Eggs are tough. Only one broke, and went immediately into the mix so didn’t 
even get wasted. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] April 19 Bay Area Three Creamery Tour

[DS]

9 AM meetup at Rouge et Noir / Marin French Cheese. 7500 Point Reyes 
Petaluma Rd, Petaluma, CA 94952

Philip and I will be on Quickbeams, more quickbeams the better, but all are 
welcome.

Basic route: Rouge et Noir Cheese Factory  (parking) - Cowgirl 
Creamery (sandwich? Cheese?) - Nicasio Cheese Co. (samples, cheese, bread, 
salami) - Rouge et Noir (picnic). 

https://goo.gl/maps/SstND (or something like that).

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Re: [RBW] April 19 Bay Area Three Creamery Tour

[David Stein]

Sorry, I hope 'tour' wasn't misleading there, just a short jaunt through
some Marin creameries.

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> 9 AM meetup at Rouge et Noir / Marin French Cheese. 7500 Point Reyes
> Petaluma Rd, Petaluma, CA 94952
>
> Philip and I will be on Quickbeams, more quickbeams the better, but all
> are welcome.
>
> Basic route: Rouge et Noir Cheese Factory  (parking) - Cowgirl
> Creamery (sandwich? Cheese?) - Nicasio Cheese Co. (samples, cheese, bread,
> salami) - Rouge et Noir (picnic).
>
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[RBW] PSA Wheel Deal!

[Surlyprof]

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bop/4974263858.html

Just saw this on CL.  $75 for an older set of Velocity Twin Hollows in the 
Williow Glen area of San Jose.  I'm guessing these were about $300 a few 
years ago.  Would make a great second wheelset if I hadn't already bought a 
set.

John

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Re: [RBW] Grant's review in WSJ

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wow! The comments section is truly filled with ignorance. 

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[RBW] GAP/CO trails in the early spring

[Marc Irwin]

I just got done with my early spring trip and finished the first part of 
the ride recount 

.
It was a good trip with some very predictable trials and a couple very 
pleasant surprises down the road.  I'll furnish new links as I finish over 
the next few days.

Marc

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[RBW] Re: GAP/CO trails in the early spring

[Deacon Patrick]

What a fantastic trip! Thanks for sharing! I look forward to the next 
part(s).

With abandon,
Patrick

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> I just got done with my early spring trip and finished the first part of 
> the ride recount 
> 
> .
> It was a good trip with some very predictable trials and a couple very 
> pleasant surprises down the road.  I'll furnish new links as I finish over 
> the next few days.
>
> Marc
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Re: [RBW] Grant's review in WSJ

[Jim Bronson]

Full glass of haterade for sure.
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[RBW] Re: Grant's review in WSJ

[Deacon Patrick]

I can't get to it even with Google-foo.

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[RBW] Good camera for on the bike

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I never used  to take photos when riding, but last year I started. I've used my 
iPhone, which is ok, but it only works in weather that's warm enough for 
fingerless gloves. And I'm sure I could take better pictures with a better 
camera. So I'm looking for something that's light, durable, easy to use and 
takes nice pictures. What do you all use?

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[RBW] Re: Grant's review in WSJ

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Patrick, try clicking on the file that Oolaf posted. 

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[RBW] Re: Grant's review in WSJ

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sorry, I meant Olof! Oolaf hasn't posted one yet :)

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[RBW] Re: Good camera for on the bike

[Deacon Patrick]

My personal suggestion is persist with the simplicity of your iPhone, 
unless you want to become a hobby photographer. Get a photography book. 
Learn the principles of solid framing and what makes a good photo. The 
photographer has much more to say about the photo than the equipment does.

I love the simplicity of my iPhone. Could I take better photos with more 
effort and a dedicated DSLR? Absolutely. But the cost for doing so would be 
a lot more time and energy and money I'd rather spend differently. All of 
the photos on my Flickr photostream are iPhone. Use mittens in cold 
weather. Easy on and off. I take photos down to -20˚F. 

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Good camera for on the bike

[cyclotourist]

Panasonic LX7 

Super fast 1.4 lens. Extra wide-angle (24mm in 35mm equiv). Leica optics w/
Panasonic electronics. Metal frame. Good battery life. Small package
(almost too small). Lacks an optical viewfinder which is the only thing I
would ask for. Lens is  a bit big and protrudes out front a bit to be fully
pocketable. Has a detachable lens cover which makes one-hand photos a bit
tougher. Regularly goes on sale for $280-$300.

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> used my iPhone, which is ok, but it only works in weather that's warm
> enough for fingerless gloves. And I'm sure I could take better pictures
> with a better camera. So I'm looking for something that's light, durable,
> easy to use and takes nice pictures. What do you all use?
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[RBW] Re: Good camera for on the bike

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Patrick, you do EVERYTHING down to -20 degrees. I just find that I will rarely 
take a photo in that kind of weather if it means I have to take off the gloves 
(or lobster mitts.) But I really like the photos the iPhone takes 
so...maybe...we'll see. It's warm enough now that I won't need fingered gloves 
for a few months. 

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Re: [RBW] April 19 Bay Area Three Creamery Tour

[cyclotourist]

This looks to be one of the best NorCal rides to date!!!

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 2:54 PM, David Stein  wrote:

> Sorry, I hope 'tour' wasn't misleading there, just a short jaunt through
> some Marin creameries.
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 2:51 PM, DS  wrote:
>
>> 9 AM meetup at Rouge et Noir / Marin French Cheese. 7500 Point Reyes
>> Petaluma Rd, Petaluma, CA 94952
>>
>> Philip and I will be on Quickbeams, more quickbeams the better, but all
>> are welcome.
>>
>> Basic route: Rouge et Noir Cheese Factory  (parking) - Cowgirl
>> Creamery (sandwich? Cheese?) - Nicasio Cheese Co. (samples, cheese, bread,
>> salami) - Rouge et Noir (picnic).
>>
>> https://goo.gl/maps/SstND (or something like that).
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Re: [RBW] Re: GAP/CO trails in the early spring

[cyclotourist]

That's on my short-list of rides I'd like to do.  Thanks for putting
the write-up together!

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> What a fantastic trip! Thanks for sharing! I look forward to the next
> part(s).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 4:58:44 PM UTC-6, Marc Irwin wrote:
>>
>> I just got done with my early spring trip and finished the first part of
>> the ride recount.
>> It was a good trip with some very predictable trials and a couple very
>> pleasant surprises down the road.  I'll furnish new links as I finish over
>> the next few days.
>>
>> Marc
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[RBW] Re: Grant's review in WSJ

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, Tim! I'd missed that. Thank you for posting it, Olof!

Great review! 

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[RBW] Re: Good camera for on the bike

[Deacon Patrick]

When it gets cold enough (perhaps below zero?), I wear fingerless gloves 
under my mittens. I found that for things needing dexterity, bare fingers 
get it done better and faster and I'm back to moving again vs. gloves, so 
the system works great for me.

In the meantime, you've got three seasons to hone your craft without 
mittens. Grin.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Seeking first-hand test-fit (& ride) impressions of the Clem, from other in-betweeners!

[iamkeith]

After seeing the formal sales flyer 
, 
I'm having renewed doubts about the Clem that I purchased fitting me.  If 
the included diagram is accurate, the quoted stand-over heights are 
measured directly above or just in front of the bottom bracket, instead of 
at the middle of the top tube where I'd assumed.  This is the critical 
determining dimension in my case, and it seems to suggest that the frame is 
even taller than I expected.  There's probably only so much that can be 
gleaned from the opinions of strangers, but I'd like to hear as much as I 
can, to try and figure out what I'm going to do.  Whether I need to 
abandon the project and sell my frame to someone else or try to switch to a 
smaller frame, I'd rather figure it out now - while there could still be 
options available, before I pay for shipping, and before I start 
accumulating components in earnest.

I'd love to hear some first-hand impressions from those who also feel like 
they fall squarely *between* sizes, who have had a chance to try both, 
and their thoughts afterword.  In my case, I'm most interested in 
hearing from people who are between 6' and 6'-3" tall OR with a PBH of 
roughly 87cm ---  too tall for a 52 and too short for a 59 --- but it 
wouldn't hurt to hear from others in the same dilemma, falling at other 
break-points.  It seems like we've heard from several people in the 
6'-3" to 6'-6" range saying that the 59 is just right and, similarly, 
others at 6'-0" confirming that the 52 is just right. 

Wish I could get to RBW headquarters, but can't .  Thanks for your efforts 
though, if you can.

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[RBW] Re: Seeking first-hand test-fit (& ride) impressions of the Clem, from other in-betweeners!

[Deacon Patrick]

Talk with Keven or Grant at Rivendell. If you already have, trust what they 
told you. I had similar concerns prior to getting my Hunqapillar because 
what they sold me was bigger than the Hunqachart said. They were spot on. 
Had I gone with the chart, I have no idea how things would go. When I got 
my Quickbeam I got it sized on the big side just the same, so I have no 
comparison.

With abandon,
Patrick

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> After seeing the formal sales flyer 
> , 
> I'm having renewed doubts about the Clem that I purchased fitting me.  If 
> the included diagram is accurate, the quoted stand-over heights are 
> measured directly above or just in front of the bottom bracket, instead of 
> at the middle of the top tube where I'd assumed.  This is the critical 
> determining dimension in my case, and it seems to suggest that the frame is 
> even taller than I expected.  There's probably only so much that can be 
> gleaned from the opinions of strangers, but I'd like to hear as much as I 
> can, to try and figure out what I'm going to do.  Whether I need to 
> abandon the project and sell my frame to someone else or try to switch to a 
> smaller frame, I'd rather figure it out now - while there could still be 
> options available, before I pay for shipping, and before I start 
> accumulating components in earnest.
>
> I'd love to hear some first-hand impressions from those who also feel like 
> they fall squarely *between* sizes, who have had a chance to try both, 
> and their thoughts afterword.  In my case, I'm most interested in 
> hearing from people who are between 6' and 6'-3" tall OR with a PBH of 
> roughly 87cm ---  too tall for a 52 and too short for a 59 --- but it 
> wouldn't hurt to hear from others in the same dilemma, falling at other 
> break-points.  It seems like we've heard from several people in the 
> 6'-3" to 6'-6" range saying that the 59 is just right and, similarly, 
> others at 6'-0" confirming that the 52 is just right. 
>
> Wish I could get to RBW headquarters, but can't .  Thanks for your efforts 
> though, if you can.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's review in WSJ

[cyclotourist]

Well, only 12 comments, so out of a nation of 300+ million... not that
much hate.
But that Eric Sofio guy, wow. He should really see his psych about
upping his dosages. The meds are clearly not working as hoped for.

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>
> Great review!
>
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Re: [RBW] Grant's review in WSJ

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> On Apr 12, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Well written review; it looks like the Comments section is calling the usual 
> idiots out of their holes.

I usually avoid looking at the comments.  What passes for thought amongst those 
members of the public who comment on news articles is too appalling.

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[RBW] Re: Seeking first-hand test-fit (& ride) impressions of the Clem, from other in-betweeners!

[drew beckmeyer]

no personal experience about that size, however, here is a word of possible 
reassurement.  we bought the 45cm prototype clem (maybe sizes have changed 
slightly) for my fiance who has a pbh of 72-73. at the time of purchase, 
the website said standover was 71, and they were right.  in looking at the 
pdf, it now seems to suggest that standover on that size now is 74. its 
possible that the geometry changed slightly, but i sort of doubt it. again, 
we just have the prototype, but if the geometry didn't change, then the 
standover is definitely a few cm lower than that which is listed on the 
pdf... i might verify with riv, but don't second guess too hard. the clem 
is a super cool bike. 

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[RBW] Good camera for on the bike

[Philip Williamson]

I concur with both David and Patrick. Keep going with the iPhone, and if the 
pull of a camera camera is really strong, the Lumix is dynamite.

There are gloves with capacitative (capacitive?) magic thread in the fingertips 
for using a phone. I've seen Instructables for sewing your own into existing 
gloves, too. Maybe sew a spot on the thumb of a mitten?

Philip
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[RBW] Re: Good camera for on the bike

[Deacon Patrick]

I've tried the conductive fingered gloves. They are generally thin to the 
point of being useless and either too loose (floppy and inexact) or too 
tight (constrict blood flow, get cold fast). They seem designed for urban 
use between buildings and transit, not use in extended exposure in the vast 
wilds. That's why I just use fingerless gloves uner boiled wool mittens.

My biggest challenge with the iPhone is there have been times when it is 
raining that I couldn't turn it on because moist fingers mess with 
conductivity, so not many (any?) photos by me when I'm exposed in a 
downpour.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Good camera for on the bike

[Kieran J]

If you do end up going the route of an actual camera, consider one with 
tactile controls with buttons and dials, rather than a small camera with 
everything buried in a screen-based menu system. It will help with 
mitten-ed usage and impatience when composing a shot in bad weather. I 
alternate between an iPhone and a Fuji X10, which is all metal, is a great 
size and has a manual zoom AF lens and a few dials that make adjustments 
easy in the cold and such. 

Mine has taken a licking but it's still going strong. The Fuji stuff in 
general is great - well made and easy to use. Same goes for the Olympus 
OM-D line and the Lumix that was already mentioned.

KJ
 

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 7:26:01 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
>
> I never used  to take photos when riding, but last year I started. I've 
> used my iPhone, which is ok, but it only works in weather that's warm 
> enough for fingerless gloves. And I'm sure I could take better pictures 
> with a better camera. So I'm looking for something that's light, durable, 
> easy to use and takes nice pictures. What do you all use?

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[RBW] Re: Good camera for on the bike

[Surlyprof]

I've had success with a Canon Powershot S95.  It takes great pictures and 
it is very durable.  It has been beat on pretty badly and it keeps on 
going.  I remember that I did a great deal of research on point and shoot 
cameras before buying the S95.  I found this site to do very thorough 
reviews in the past (http://www.dpreview.com/).  Looks like Canon's up to 
an S120 now.(
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PowerShot-Digital-Optical-Full-HD/dp/B00EFILNV8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428889659&sr=1-1&keywords=canon+s)
  


The challenge I found is mounting it on handlebars so it's easy to aim 
and easy to remove.  I was wondering if anyone has found a successful 
solution for that.  Anyone?

John

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 4:26:01 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:

> I never used  to take photos when riding, but last year I started. I've 
> used my iPhone, which is ok, but it only works in weather that's warm 
> enough for fingerless gloves. And I'm sure I could take better pictures 
> with a better camera. So I'm looking for something that's light, durable, 
> easy to use and takes nice pictures. What do you all use?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good camera for on the bike

[Patrick Moore]

10-15 years ago or so, or back when digital cameras were still something
rather exotic instead of daily humdrum, there was a small contingent of
cycling photo enthusiasts who took pride in compiling albums of interesting
photos taken with cheap "pen" cameras, the kind that even back then
retailed for about $10. Even I, photographic klutz that I am, used a couple
of these for on-the-go and for-sale photos with passable results. Kent
Peterson, of eponymous blog fame and erstwhile fix-ist a l'outrance, was
one who did this.

Me, I carried an old Canon (at one time high end; taken in trade) for a
while, but found that my results with iPhone, serially 3 (s?g?), 4 (s?g?)
and, now (surfing just one step behind the fashion curve) 5 (s? g?) were no
worse, and that since I carried the phone anyway for various reasons,
including Cyclemeter, it was far more convenient simply to use it.

In fact, if anyone wants that Canon (Sure Shot? It was I was told a $600
camera back in the earlier aughts), he/she/undecided/it/both/neither is
welcome to it for postage. Chargers and (I think?) storage cards included.
Or will trade for a Roadeo.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> My personal suggestion is persist with the simplicity of your iPhone,
> unless you want to become a hobby photographer. Get a photography book.
> Learn the principles of solid framing and what makes a good photo. The
> photographer has much more to say about the photo than the equipment does.
>
> I love the simplicity of my iPhone. Could I take better photos with more
> effort and a dedicated DSLR? Absolutely. But the cost for doing so would be
> a lot more time and energy and money I'd rather spend differently. All of
> the photos on my Flickr photostream are iPhone. Use mittens in cold
> weather. Easy on and off. I take photos down to -20˚F.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] GAP/CO trails in the early spring

[Pondero]

Thanks, Marc!  I enjoyed the story of your experiences and the details/tips.  
If things go well, I'll do a portion near DC in September.  Looking forward to 
the remainder.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas 

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[RBW] Re: Doug and Noel's Brilliant Route in Orange County, CA

[dougP]

I think Curtis had his student's homework in the Sackville XXL saddlebag.  
Something about grading papers on the train, I think.  I think it's those 
double TT; my Atlantis only weighed 40 lbs :-)

dougP

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 11:48:42 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> I finally got my collection together from this top-5-alltime ride 
> yesterday. Huge thank you to Doug and Noel for creating the route that I 
> want to do again soon:
>
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/16495335804/in/set-72157651913517411/
>
>
>
> This ride had the ideal country dirt roads that I often dream about. And 
> the middle of the ride had a mexican restaurant stop with beer on a great 
> patio in a shady canyon with amazing people. In the second half of the 
> ride, there was lots of fun singletrack! And when we were done in San Juan 
> Capistrano (riding on appealing roads without car traffic almost up to the 
> last pedal stroke) our path took us right up to the train boarding point so 
> that each of us could either get home or back to our cars on Metrolink in 
> under an hour (15 minutes back to Irvine for me.) I don't know how you can 
> have a more perfect day on the bike.
>
> We even weighed our bikes at a shop enroute. I have a feeling we were 
> hoping for high numbers. Mine came in at 44 lbs. or so. The lowest was 
> Noel's at 33 lbs, and the greatest was 49.5 lbs. Curtis wins! All the bikes 
> were loaded to varying degrees. Curtis's riding made me a firmer believer 
> in the downplaying of bike weight.
>
> -Jim W.
>
>

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[RBW] OC ride

[Curtis McKenzie]

Doug and Noel,

Thanks for the wonderful ride. You hit all of the key elements: people,
dirt roads/trails, and beer.

Curtis

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[RBW] April 24-25 overnight at O'Neill Park

[Curtis McKenzie]

Hi all,

I have reserved a camp spot at O'Neil Park for Friday April 24. I plan to
arrive in Irvine at 4:35 pm by train and follow Doug's and Noel's route to
the park.  On Saturday ride to San Juan Capistrano and catch the 12:35
Amtrak to San Diego.  The camp site can accommodate eight persons.

Let me know if you have any question.

Peace,

Curtis

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[RBW] Re: OC ride

[dougP]

It was almost as much fun researching & testing the route as it was to ride 
with all of you.  Congrats on you & David working out a way to join us!  

dougP

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 8:03:56 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
>
>
> Doug and Noel,
>
> Thanks for the wonderful ride. You hit all of the key elements: people, 
> dirt roads/trails, and beer.
>
> Curtis
>

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[RBW] Re: April 24-25 overnight at O'Neill Park

[dougP]

Making this into an overnight is a brilliant idea.  We are currently 
working out a trip "up north" but if I'm in town I'll join you.  There will 
be some short bits involving pushing, especially with camping gear, to get 
to O'Neill.  O'Neil is a hidden gem, and from there it's all downhill back 
to San Juan Capistrano.  For anyone who missed yesterday's adventure, 
here's a chance to do it one better.  

dougP

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 8:19:07 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have reserved a camp spot at O'Neil Park for Friday April 24. I plan to 
> arrive in Irvine at 4:35 pm by train and follow Doug's and Noel's route to 
> the park.  On Saturday ride to San Juan Capistrano and catch the 12:35 
> Amtrak to San Diego.  The camp site can accommodate eight persons.   
>
> Let me know if you have any question. 
>
> Peace,
>
> Curtis
>

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[RBW] WTB - 6 SPD DT shifters

[Tony DeFilippo]

Friction capable both sides... Triple front. For mounting on braze ons and 
including all necessary hardware.

I'm nearly done with a 120mm rear OLD Bob Jackson project and would like to go 
with DT shifters to go along with the fairly minimalist build I've got going.

Hit me up off list if you've got a set, thanks!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: April 24-25 overnight at O'Neill Park

[cyclotourist]

Will be wrapped up with HS bike races that weekend, but thanks for
putting out an invite!
Turning your adventure from this weekend into an over-nighter is brilliant!

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 8:35 PM, dougP  wrote:
> Making this into an overnight is a brilliant idea.  We are currently working
> out a trip "up north" but if I'm in town I'll join you.  There will be some
> short bits involving pushing, especially with camping gear, to get to
> O'Neill.  O'Neil is a hidden gem, and from there it's all downhill back to
> San Juan Capistrano.  For anyone who missed yesterday's adventure, here's a
> chance to do it one better.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 8:19:07 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have reserved a camp spot at O'Neil Park for Friday April 24. I plan to
>> arrive in Irvine at 4:35 pm by train and follow Doug's and Noel's route to
>> the park.  On Saturday ride to San Juan Capistrano and catch the 12:35
>> Amtrak to San Diego.  The camp site can accommodate eight persons.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any question.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Curtis
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[RBW] Re: April 24-25 overnight at O'Neill Park

[Mike Schiller]

sounds good to me.  Hopefully I'll be fully recovered by then.  

~mike
Carlsbad Ca


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