[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Stub Stewart Overnight from Portland/Hillsboro MAX

[hsmitham]

Chris,

I enjoyed the pictures and as I'm a Southy don't know if I have the metal 
to 1. Wake up at 6am (I work Swing) 2.Ride in below freezing temps in 
darkness. The galaxy picture was great.Thanks for sharing.

~Hugh

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:57:23 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Most of you know the route from Hatfield Government Center Station.
>
> According to the weather talkers, a system is supposed to come in today. 
> It made good sense to head out to take advantage of the great dry season so 
> far. The views from 47 going to Banks were pretty fantastic: The mist was 
> starting to pool in the coastal range foothills, and the fall colors were 
> totally on. I didn't leave work until 3:30pm, so the sun was over the 
> horizon by the time I made it to the Banks trailhead. The trail is 
> surprisingly clean: I would expect more leafy debris. I made good time, 
> arriving at the campground shortly after 6:30: very very dark.
>
> Shawn replied to my bell call. We were the only people at the Brooke Creek 
> campsite. Wine was drank, words were exchanged, pictures of the stars were 
> taken.
>
> A hammock was slept in. And how.
>
> I had to get back to Portland by 10am, so I started breaking camp shortly 
> after 6am. The stars were still all out, and there was no sign of the 
> coming sun. It was a little below freezing at this point--there was frost 
> on the ground. I need to get wind barriers for my hands: the air flowing 
> past them as I sped down the gentle slope of the Banks-Vernonia trail made 
> for a fair amount of discomfort.
>
> I witnessed a gorgeous sunrise just as I was halfway between Banks and 
> Forest Grove. By the time I rolled into Hillsboro, the sun was obscured by 
> low cloud cover and the day had returned to some semblance of "dreary".
>
> I had a mildly dazed ride back on the blue line.
>
> My pictures here: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157637145521045/
>
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>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Homer goes to Amish country.

[Ron Mc]

thanks for the info, and enjoyed the blog

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:40:33 PM UTC-5, Robert Barr wrote:
>
> The Amish communities in northern Indiana are heavily bicycle oriented, to 
> the degree that there are some remarkable home-crafted cargo and child 
> carrying bikes. Bob (Indianapolis)
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Steve Palincsar 
> > wrote:
>
>> On 10/29/2013 10:40 AM, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>>> curious whether the Amish consider bicycles to be "English"
>>>
>>
>> Some clearly do.  In Lancaster county, PA, the Amish don't use 
>> pedal-bicycles, they use a large-wheeled scooter.  In the past, however, I 
>> recall seeing them using bicycles; not sure when they changed.  In other 
>> areas, practices vary.  I believe I've seen Amish in Southern Maryland on 
>> bicycles (although it's hard to tell sometimes, there are also Mennonites 
>> in the area).
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: wtb: Rivendell Bombadil ~ 56cm ~ diagatube?

[Garth]

The Bomba is pretty much a full custom frame anyways these days. the price 
difference, if any, is negligible.  So just make it an official "custom" 
and you can have anything you wish. 

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[RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis

[Garth]

I'm going to contradict myself and say I think I may have used a 110 Tange 
w/DS spacers with the Carmina triple  lol.   I cannot recall for sure 
!  I sold them a while ago.  I'm pretty sure RIV has not had experience 
with Carminas btw  I believe I did ask them prior to getting mine. But 
who knows, maybe that's changed.  
Yes, the Atlantis, like the First production Bombas, can use 107/110 BB's 
with 24/36/46 or 48, but no larger rings than that . 
This what my Bomba stays look like :

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[RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis

[Garth]

And really, I found it best to simply invest in a number of sizes of 
cartridge BBs to have on hand to test with .  I don't recomment the Shimano 
UN-54/55 as they have a lid on the non DS cup that does not allow for DS 
spacers and the slight shift in the cartridge in the shell. Tange LN-3922's 
are the steel cup version of the AL ones Rive sells , and are great ! 

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[RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis

[Ron Mc]

a reply to Mike on the SKF BB.  This is a symmetric BB, and they offer 
spacers up to 4mm.  I would go for the 116 and make sure you have the 3 
available spacers (1.5, 2, 4).  This will get you up to the extra 10mm with 
the width plus spacer offset, and gives you 3 other options for dialing in 
chainline.  The SKF square tapers are Big, and the crank arms don't seat 
very deeply on them.  

On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:06:28 AM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>
> Hey Mitch,
>
> I saw this post as I was searching for folks experiences with carmina 
> cranks and SKF BB's. I am thinking of buying a used carmina on here and 
> pairing it with an SKF BB and I just wanted to know if you ended up going 
> that route? I read Peter White's carmina info and it seems like a 110 mm 
> would work best for the double I'm looking to setup, and he says it should 
> be 10 mm more for a triple, so I'd be curious to know what you have.
>
> How do you like the carmina? Happy riding and thanks for your feedback!
>
> Mike 
>
> On Monday, May 14, 2012 10:49:58 AM UTC-4, Mitch Browne wrote:
>>
>> I bit on the TA Carmina triple posted this weekend.
>>
>> Of course I don't need it and am very happy with the Sugino XD 48/36/24 
>> Tange 107 BB on my daily commute Atlantis.
>>
>> I've looked at Peter White's website but don't readily find a Phil to 
>> fit. I do see an SKF on Compass.
>>
>> Any length suggestions for a Tange or Phil BB that would best fit this 
>> crank on an Atlantis? Offset advice?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mitch Browne
>> San Luis Obispo, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis

[Ron Mc]

ps - might also call the folks at Boulder Bicycle since they sell and 
install both the SKF and Carmina.  

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:39:59 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> a reply to Mike on the SKF BB.  This is a symmetric BB, and they offer 
> spacers up to 4mm.  I would go for the 116 and make sure you have the 3 
> available spacers (1.5, 2, 4).  This will get you up to the extra 10mm with 
> the width plus spacer offset, and gives you 3 other options for dialing in 
> chainline.  The SKF square tapers are Big, and the crank arms don't seat 
> very deeply on them.  
>
> On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:06:28 AM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mitch,
>>
>> I saw this post as I was searching for folks experiences with carmina 
>> cranks and SKF BB's. I am thinking of buying a used carmina on here and 
>> pairing it with an SKF BB and I just wanted to know if you ended up going 
>> that route? I read Peter White's carmina info and it seems like a 110 mm 
>> would work best for the double I'm looking to setup, and he says it should 
>> be 10 mm more for a triple, so I'd be curious to know what you have.
>>
>> How do you like the carmina? Happy riding and thanks for your feedback!
>>
>> Mike 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Matching bartape for Bleriot?

[Minh]

it's been a long time since i've seen a bleriot IRL.  the roll i just put 
onto my SH, maybe.  the roll i have in storage i don't think so, it's a 
little too dark.  that's the warning that i have about the viva, there 
seems to be quite a bit of variation from batch to batch.  

i think the reason the viva matches better then the newbaums is that the 
viva has a bit more shine/sheen to it then the newbaums, so it pops a 
little more.  

i actually think trying to match is a losing game, i would go opposite on 
the color wheel, classic would be honey brown, contrast match would be 
orange.  a green could work too if it has enough blue in it.


On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:39:22 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
>
> Minh, do you think the Viva you have would match?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1st gen / Riv MUSA pant / s: small

[greenteadrinkers]

Pants have been sold, thanks everyone.

Best,
Scott

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:26:15 AM UTC-4, greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
> New price - $20.00 shipped.
>
> Best,
> Scott
>
> On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:57:57 PM UTC-4, greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Selling my lightly used pair of first generation MUSA pant. The pant's in 
>> almost new condition, wore them only a few times, no noticeable wear. 
>> Please note, this pair was not designed with the tapered zipper or the 
>> reflective strip. Color is the yellow/brown with dark green pockets and 
>> crotch.
>>
>> Pictures of actual pant for sale here: 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10039335@N04/sets/72157636837158535/
>>
>> Asking $25.00 + shipping
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: 58.5cm Curt built Riv Custom F/F/HS

[stoker]

 

Hello all –

I am selling my 58.5 cm Curt Goodrich built Rivendell Custom frameset/fork. 
It includes the ‘fancy’ paint details on the fork tips, seat and chainstay 
bridges, ‘keyhole’ on the seat lug, etc. It is in excellent condition – no 
chips, scrapes, dents, dings, blemishes. It is in fantastic condition – it 
appears new. Includes the Cane Creek Classic Headset. I will also include 
the Shimano LX FD and the Shimano BB. Images show fully built bike – 
frame/fork/headset will be carefully packed for shipping.

*Pertinent info:*

58.5cm frame.  

Tube specs - DT .8-.5-.8 / ST .9-.6 / TT .7-.4-.7 

72.5 HT/72 ST. 

58cm TT (horizontal equiv). 

BB drop 80mm. 

Fork rake 47.5mm. 

CS length 44.5cm

TT slope 1.5 degree

*$1750.00 *shipped to the lower 48. PayPal is best. Contact me off-line - 
Thanks much!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/107142884@N05/sets/72157637139677264/


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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Stub Stewart Overnight from Portland/Hillsboro MAX

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

Nice report and great pics, Chris. Bummed I couldn't join you. 
--Smitty

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:57:23 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Most of you know the route from Hatfield Government Center Station.
>
> According to the weather talkers, a system is supposed to come in today. 
> It made good sense to head out to take advantage of the great dry season so 
> far. The views from 47 going to Banks were pretty fantastic: The mist was 
> starting to pool in the coastal range foothills, and the fall colors were 
> totally on. I didn't leave work until 3:30pm, so the sun was over the 
> horizon by the time I made it to the Banks trailhead. The trail is 
> surprisingly clean: I would expect more leafy debris. I made good time, 
> arriving at the campground shortly after 6:30: very very dark.
>
> Shawn replied to my bell call. We were the only people at the Brooke Creek 
> campsite. Wine was drank, words were exchanged, pictures of the stars were 
> taken.
>
> A hammock was slept in. And how.
>
> I had to get back to Portland by 10am, so I started breaking camp shortly 
> after 6am. The stars were still all out, and there was no sign of the 
> coming sun. It was a little below freezing at this point--there was frost 
> on the ground. I need to get wind barriers for my hands: the air flowing 
> past them as I sped down the gentle slope of the Banks-Vernonia trail made 
> for a fair amount of discomfort.
>
> I witnessed a gorgeous sunrise just as I was halfway between Banks and 
> Forest Grove. By the time I rolled into Hillsboro, the sun was obscured by 
> low cloud cover and the day had returned to some semblance of "dreary".
>
> I had a mildly dazed ride back on the blue line.
>
> My pictures here: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157637145521045/
>
> -- 
> "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah 
>

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[RBW] Re: Matching bartape for Bleriot?

[Frank]

On the list and still here. I exchanged back-channel email with Michael, 
but for the group, the tape on the Bleriot is one of the Japanese blues 
that Rivendell used to sell. Not sure who manufactured it, but someone in 
the Bay Area probably has a line on it. Couldn't find it on the Yellow 
Jersey site, but I'd probably ask Riv for sourcing or check Jitensha.

/f

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:59:55 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Actually, that's not my bike.  Never was lucky enough to snag a 
> Bleriot.That was Frank F's, and there is an email address in the Gallery 
> Page itself.  I'm not sure if he's got the same email all these years 
> later, but it's worth a try.
>  
> He may be on this list, but I am working on an out of town project and 
> won't able to confirm that until later in the day.
>  
> Yep.  Nicely appointed ride, that one!
>  
> - Jim / cyclofiend.com
>  
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:36:08 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
>> send a gmail to Jim - he's a really nice guy.  Bike is drop dead 
>> gorgeous.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:28:11 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote:
>>>
>>> I have some Viva, and not sure that would match either, it is brighter 
>>> then the Newbaums so it would be closer.  
>>>
>>> Keep in mind too that the Viva had quite a bit of color variation year 
>>> to year, i have packages from different years of the same color and they 
>>> are not the same when you place them side by side.  
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 56 Ram stolen in Berkeley CA

[Ryan]

Man, I hope you get your bike back. Best of luck
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:21:52 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: 
>
> Spotted this on the SF Craigslist.
>
> My 56cm 2003 Rambouillet was stolen from my place of business in West 
> Berkeley (see map), shortly before lunchtime on Monday, October 27. 
>
> The suspect is roughly 50 years old, average build, between 5'8" and 
> 5'11". This bike and color are fairly rare (particularly ones with XTR hubs 
> and TA Carmina cranks), so if you think you see it, you likely do.
>
> Additional bike details at time of theft: Shimano Ultegra, black Brooks 
> B17 saddle, bar-end shifters, ano black rear rack, blue bar tape, Nitto 
> stem, seatpost and bars. 
>
> This bike is/was my primary mode of transportation. I'd love to get it 
> back. Will pay if you've found it.
>
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4158151813.html
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Homer goes to Amish country.

[Iron Rider]

According the the interwebs the use of bicycles by the Amish vary according 
to Geography. They are not permitted in Lancaster County but are permitted 
in other areas. 
 
*"The PA Amish church placed a taboo on the bicycle in order to keep youth 
close to home. However, non-motorized scooters are viewed as a compromise 
between walking and the bicycle, and many youth ride them to school."*

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[RBW] Re: 56 Ram stolen in Berkeley CA

[hsmitham]

I can't imagine losing a bike as beautiful as yours, really hope you get it 
back! I'm totally paranoid leaving my AHH anywhere for too long.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:21:52 PM UTC-7, danmc wrote:
>
> Spotted this on the SF Craigslist.
>
> My 56cm 2003 Rambouillet was stolen from my place of business in West 
> Berkeley (see map), shortly before lunchtime on Monday, October 27. 
>
> The suspect is roughly 50 years old, average build, between 5'8" and 
> 5'11". This bike and color are fairly rare (particularly ones with XTR hubs 
> and TA Carmina cranks), so if you think you see it, you likely do.
>
> Additional bike details at time of theft: Shimano Ultegra, black Brooks 
> B17 saddle, bar-end shifters, ano black rear rack, blue bar tape, Nitto 
> stem, seatpost and bars. 
>
> This bike is/was my primary mode of transportation. I'd love to get it 
> back. Will pay if you've found it.
>
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4158151813.html
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: It's here!

[Dave]

I read it from cover to cover last night.  What a great job they've done 
putting together an aesthetically pleasing, joyfully educational, and truly 
authentic-to-themselves catalogue

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:17:04 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> I think you nailed it.
>
> Best,
>
>
> ~Hugh
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Joe Bernard 
> > wrote:
>
>> There's a reference to the prices not being listed on each product page; 
>> something about not wanting the catalogue to become "out of date" too 
>> quickly. With the way models/sizes/colors shift around, may be they wanted 
>> people to stick with the website for current frame availability.
>>  
>> Joe Bernard
>> Vallejo, CA.
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:06:13 PM UTC-7, Jim wrote:
>>
>>> Amazingly, nothing about the bikes in it.  Hopefully an explanation will 
>>> be offered.
>>>
>>> Jim in Boulder 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Stub Stewart Overnight from Portland/Hillsboro MAX

[Shawn Granton]

It was a decent little trip. Still need to work on my write-up, but here's 
photos:
>
>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/sets/72157637164143863/
-Shawn

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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Projects, 2013/14 version

[Ryan]

OK...I'm not brave enough for fixed, and I admire those who ride fixies, 
especially when they ride them with grace and skill...there's a local 
courier who rides an old flat black fixie of mysterious origins all year 
round in  all kinds of weather and his style is just so effortlessbut 
when I had my old 70's PX-10 refurbished as a single-speed in 2011, I just 
loved it..Dare I confess, the Rivs did not get the love they deserved ?  I 
rode my rivs more this year, though. But I love rocking the 
Peugeotcrappy paint and all. Nervex lugs and Reynolds frame with 
36-hole Ambrosio/Trek rims and Record hubs w 35mm Pasela tiressweet!
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:58:29 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote: 
>
> Great topic, I love seeing what is on the project docket for all of you! 
>  As for my own list.. 
>
> 1. Regular Maintenance - this my first year of daily riding, the Trek and 
> Atlantis will both need some attention wrt hub maintenance and a couple 
> other items.
> 2. Atlantis dial-in... I'm thrilled with my new wheelset, need to add a 
> couple things to include racks, the dyno light, permanent bar tape, BB 
> replacement/service
> 3. XO-3 Refurb - the true winter project.  I haven't touched the bike 
> since I purchased it about a month ago.  Wheels and drive train need 
> significant servicing or complete replacement.
>
> 4. Wildcard/Fun thought - Single Speed/Fixed conversion.  I recently rode 
> a SS schwinn for several days and loved it, XO-3 is a possibility using a 
> chain tensioner or and Eno Eccentric Hub, my 650B Trek is another 
> possibility... OR a new frame, vintage lightweight... :)  
>
> Tony
>
>

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[RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis

[Mike On A Bike]

Thanks for all of the input, but it turns out I've changed my fancy crank 
overhaul plans some. I decided to get White ENO arms and set these up as a 
double, and I'll be pairing it with a 113 mm SKF BB that I bought from 
Compass. Jan Heine said I should be fine with a 113 for that even though 
they run a little big, and this solution seems a lot simpler than messing 
with a TA setup. I had never heard of SKF BB's until a couple of days ago 
but man do they look like some next level engineering!

In case anybody is interested, bikebling.com is selling the ENO arms for 
$180 and you can add a 10% coupon to that for $162 shipped. I had upgrade 
with a deal like 
that! 
http://www.bikebling.com/White-Industries-ENO-Crank-Arms-p/whiteind-eno-crank-arms.htm

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:51:05 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> ps - might also call the folks at Boulder Bicycle since they sell and 
> install both the SKF and Carmina.  
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:39:59 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> a reply to Mike on the SKF BB.  This is a symmetric BB, and they offer 
>> spacers up to 4mm.  I would go for the 116 and make sure you have the 3 
>> available spacers (1.5, 2, 4).  This will get you up to the extra 10mm with 
>> the width plus spacer offset, and gives you 3 other options for dialing in 
>> chainline.  The SKF square tapers are Big, and the crank arms don't seat 
>> very deeply on them.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:06:28 AM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Mitch,
>>>
>>> I saw this post as I was searching for folks experiences with carmina 
>>> cranks and SKF BB's. I am thinking of buying a used carmina on here and 
>>> pairing it with an SKF BB and I just wanted to know if you ended up going 
>>> that route? I read Peter White's carmina info and it seems like a 110 mm 
>>> would work best for the double I'm looking to setup, and he says it should 
>>> be 10 mm more for a triple, so I'd be curious to know what you have.
>>>
>>> How do you like the carmina? Happy riding and thanks for your feedback!
>>>
>>> Mike 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Nitto love and more box origami

[Bill Lindsay]

I got a Riv Box yesterday.  My order was Steel Albatross bars, tektro 
brakelevers, a bar of grampa's pine tar soap, a black and white bandanna, 
and some goldy brassy ferrules.  

1.  The box was so small that I was 100% CERTAIN that one of three things 
had happened:  
  A. they forgot to ship the handlebars
  B. they shipped the wrong bars
  C. the box was a tardis--bigger on the inside than the outside

Turns out it must have been C, because the steel Albatross bars were in 
there.  Amazing such a big bar fit in what looked like such a little box

2.  Getting a new Nitto Part is always really gratifying for me.  I think 
Nitto is really nice

3.  I love my bandanna collection.  I recommend adding a $3 bandanna to 
every Riv order.  I'm becoming a bit of a bandanna hoarder.  

4.  I really like how classy my builds look with brassy ferrules.  I used 
to ask Mark A personally for a handful when I needed them.  I'm glad they 
sell them in those $5 baggies now.  

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[RBW] Re: Need collectives help on color choice.

[Philip Williamson]

Pea sage green, hands down. One of the great Rivendell colors. And I'm a 
giant fan of orange bikes. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:23:36 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Hi Bunch,
>
> New to me Atlantis and having it painted and need you opinions on which 
> color to go with...my first thought was to go with pea soup green like this,
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/8541167230/in/pool-rivendellatlantis
>
> And the second color I'm considering is a burnt orange which I believe 
> this is,
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/5871521426/in/pool-rivendellatlantis/
>
> Sorry for the lake of close up color pictures.
>
> I feel as though the orange is a bit flashy as I already have a green 
> flashy so was leaning toward an understated green as my rough stuff 
> tour/S240 beasty. Let me know what cha think and if you have pictures even 
> better.
>
> Best,
>
> ~Hugh
>

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[RBW] Re: Nitto love and more box origami

[Brewster Fong]

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:54:16 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: 
>
> I got a Riv Box yesterday.  My order was Steel Albatross bars, tektro 
> brakelevers, a bar of grampa's pine tar soap, a black and white bandanna, 
> and some goldy brassy ferrules.   
>
> 1.  The box was so small that I was 100% CERTAIN that one of three things 
> had happened:  
>   A. they forgot to ship the handlebars
>   B. they shipped the wrong bars
>   C. the box was a tardis--bigger on the inside than the outside
>
> Turns out it must have been C, because the steel Albatross bars were in 
> there.  Amazing such a big bar fit in what looked like such a little box
>
> 2.  Getting a new Nitto Part is always really gratifying for me.  I think 
> Nitto is really nice
>
 
Agree, I have a Nitto Noodle bar on my litespeed and love it! Yes, its 
heavy, at least compared to alot of bars these days, but the shape is so 
perfect that I don't care. In fact, I recently purchased another Noodle bar 
from an LBS and am going to put it on my Calfee! Haha, that ought to get my 
weightweenie friends up in arm when they find out I'm *adding weight* to my 
bike?! 

>  
> 3.  I love my bandanna collection.  I recommend adding a $3 bandanna to 
> every Riv order.  I'm becoming a bit of a bandanna hoarder.  
>
> 4.  I really like how classy my builds look with brassy ferrules.  I used 
> to ask Mark A personally for a handful when I needed them.  I'm glad they 
> sell them in those $5 baggies now.  
>
 
Nice. If you like brassy ferrules, you may want to consider getting a pair 
of matching brass derailleur cable adjusters like these:
 
pic: http://www.kirkframeworks.com/accessories_photos/barrel_adj.jpg
 
link: http://www.kirkframeworks.com/accessories.htm
 
Good Luck! 
 
 

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[RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Anne Paulson]

I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for
offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that
the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming
popular. Like this one:

https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha

And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and
which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a
transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell?

I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at
that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling
rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm.

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Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Christopher Chen]

It's funny what counts as a "big" bag these days.

Chris "10 lbs of apples" Chen


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Anne Paulson wrote:

> I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for
> offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that
> the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming
> popular. Like this one:
>
> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha
>
> And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and
> which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a
> transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell?
>
> I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at
> that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling
> rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm.
>
> --
> -- Anne Paulson
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.
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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Deacon Patrick]

Anne, those bags are for the equivalent of fast packing or ultralight back 
packing. On the Colorado Trail we saw a few folks with this type of set up 
-- they were racing from Durango to Denver the full 500 miles. Not my dram 
of whiskey. I like to be warm if it's cold, dry if it's wet, prepared if 
life's unpredictable, and enjoy the ride while I meander my merry way up 
and down the trail. Grin. I'm no heavy weight, with my gear and food for a 
week coming in at 35-40 pounds, but I'm nowhere near the 15 pounds they're 
doing.

With abandon,
Patrick  

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:10:44 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for 
> offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that 
> the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming 
> popular. Like this one: 
>
> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha 
>
> And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and 
> which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a 
> transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? 
>
> I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at 
> that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling 
> rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. 
>
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson 
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Joe Broach]

Hi Anne,

I wouldn't call the Viscacha small. I think it's about the same as a Nelson
Longflap main compartment. The biggest "advantage" is probably that the
Viscacha doesn't need a rack for support. Other potential advantages are:
lighter (by half, not counting the eliminated rack), doesn't stick out,
load is compressed, doesn't require saddlebag loops. All things that
probably matter a lot more for off-road racing than touring. Let us know
what you come up with!

Best,
joe broach
portland, or


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Anne Paulson wrote:

> I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for
> offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that
> the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming
> popular. Like this one:
>
> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha
>
> And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and
> which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a
> transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell?
>
> I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at
> that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling
> rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm.
>
> --
> -- Anne Paulson
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.
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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[hsmitham]

That's a good question. Beyond the small opening I can only surmise that 
this bag suits those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such 
along tight trails hence keeping it all close in with the bike. Just my .02

I for one love my low saddle long flap bag.

~Hugh

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for 
> offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that 
> the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming 
> popular. Like this one: 
>
> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha 
>
> And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and 
> which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a 
> transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? 
>
> I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at 
> that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling 
> rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. 
>
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson 
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Garth]

I bought the slightly smaller "Pika" and am very very happy with it !

Joe b. mentioned many of my  reasons too. My biggest reason is no, zero, 
nada saddlebad "sway" !  I ride in and out of the saddle, and I do not like 
the "sway" effect at all. These bags are easily compressed with the straps 
making them a part of the bike.  There are 4 tie downs on top also that I 
use for quick reach items like a vest, or shirt .  

No, these are not "kitchen sink" bags  light and lean is their intent.  
They are brilliant for what they are* intended* for. If I wanted to carry 
more, I'd use a rack and other bags, something that does not shift around. 

The cost ?  I could say the same thing about canvas bags !  Like those, 
these are not "ordinary" saddlebags.  The nylon used is heavy duty and top 
notch,and very very well thought out,  unlike your common saddlebag. And 
like many such items ... they are not made in bulk and the company very 
small. I don't know if the person who stared this company makes them still 
himself, or he has helpers. 

-cheers :)


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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Deacon Patrick]

"those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such along tight 
trails"

I thought that's what momentum is for. Grin. It got me through a number of 
snug encounters with a satisfying "CRACK SNAP!" That SaddleSack waxed 
canvas is durable stuff and such loving abuse just adds character to it.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:43:07 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>
> That's a good question. Beyond the small opening I can only surmise that 
> this bag suits those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such 
> along tight trails hence keeping it all close in with the bike. Just my .02
>
> I for one love my low saddle long flap bag.
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for 
>> offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that 
>> the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming 
>> popular. Like this one: 
>>
>> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha 
>>
>> And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and 
>> which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a 
>> transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? 
>>
>> I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at 
>> that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling 
>> rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. 
>>
>> -- 
>> -- Anne Paulson 
>>
>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis

[Jim Bronson]

Where's the spider in that setup?
On Oct 31, 2013 2:04 PM, "Mike On A Bike"  wrote:

> Thanks for all of the input, but it turns out I've changed my fancy crank
> overhaul plans some. I decided to get White ENO arms and set these up as a
> double, and I'll be pairing it with a 113 mm SKF BB that I bought from
> Compass. Jan Heine said I should be fine with a 113 for that even though
> they run a little big, and this solution seems a lot simpler than messing
> with a TA setup. I had never heard of SKF BB's until a couple of days ago
> but man do they look like some next level engineering!
>
> In case anybody is interested, bikebling.com is selling the ENO arms for
> $180 and you can add a 10% coupon to that for $162 shipped. I had upgrade
> with a deal like that!
> http://www.bikebling.com/White-Industries-ENO-Crank-Arms-p/whiteind-eno-crank-arms.htm
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:51:05 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> ps - might also call the folks at Boulder Bicycle since they sell and
>> install both the SKF and Carmina.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:39:59 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>>
>>> a reply to Mike on the SKF BB.  This is a symmetric BB, and they offer
>>> spacers up to 4mm.  I would go for the 116 and make sure you have the 3
>>> available spacers (1.5, 2, 4).  This will get you up to the extra 10mm with
>>> the width plus spacer offset, and gives you 3 other options for dialing in
>>> chainline.  The SKF square tapers are Big, and the crank arms don't seat
>>> very deeply on them.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:06:28 AM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote:

 Hey Mitch,

 I saw this post as I was searching for folks experiences with carmina
 cranks and SKF BB's. I am thinking of buying a used carmina on here and
 pairing it with an SKF BB and I just wanted to know if you ended up going
 that route? I read Peter White's carmina info and it seems like a 110 mm
 would work best for the double I'm looking to setup, and he says it should
 be 10 mm more for a triple, so I'd be curious to know what you have.

 How do you like the carmina? Happy riding and thanks for your feedback!

 Mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Anne Paulson]

"The nylon used is heavy duty and top notch,and very very well thought
out,  unlike your common saddlebag."

I don't doubt that the Revelate bags are thought out, but I take
exception to the idea that other saddlebags are not well thought out.
I have both a Nelson Longflap and the splendid Rivendell Large
Saddlesack. Both are exceedingly well thought out.

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> "those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such along tight
> trails"
>
> I thought that's what momentum is for. Grin. It got me through a number of
> snug encounters with a satisfying "CRACK SNAP!" That SaddleSack waxed canvas
> is durable stuff and such loving abuse just adds character to it.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:43:07 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> That's a good question. Beyond the small opening I can only surmise that
>> this bag suits those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such
>> along tight trails hence keeping it all close in with the bike. Just my .02
>>
>> I for one love my low saddle long flap bag.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for
>>> offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that
>>> the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming
>>> popular. Like this one:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha
>>>
>>> And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and
>>> which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a
>>> transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell?
>>>
>>> I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at
>>> that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling
>>> rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -- Anne Paulson
>>>
>>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.
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[RBW] Highland Day Ride

[Deacon Patrick]

Well it was a bundle and batten down your chihuahua type of day. 20˚F for most 
of my ride, as I started out before sunrise, and quickly climbed to 10,000+ 
feet. Lots of the ride was through 1-2” of remnant snow. I came to one cleaning 
and the chihuahua was less dog and more kite — someone hadn’t battened the poor 
lad down very well.

Incredible views of Pikes Peak from an angle most don’t see. I passed the 
“Bigfoot Crossing” sign on the Pikes Peak Highway, but it was too dark for a 
photo, so it didn’t happen. Beautiful cloudless day and back by 2. What 
fantastic country this is to explore and play in!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157637166639776

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Deacon Patrick]

If you're gonna take marketing personally you're in for a wild ride. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:11:53 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> "The nylon used is heavy duty and top notch,and very very well thought 
> out,  unlike your common saddlebag." 
>
> I don't doubt that the Revelate bags are thought out, but I take 
> exception to the idea that other saddlebags are not well thought out. 
> I have both a Nelson Longflap and the splendid Rivendell Large 
> Saddlesack. Both are exceedingly well thought out. 
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Deacon Patrick 
> > 
> wrote: 
> > "those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such along tight 
> > trails" 
> > 
> > I thought that's what momentum is for. Grin. It got me through a number 
> of 
> > snug encounters with a satisfying "CRACK SNAP!" That SaddleSack waxed 
> canvas 
> > is durable stuff and such loving abuse just adds character to it. 
> > 
> > With abandon, 
> > Patrick 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:43:07 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: 
> >> 
> >> That's a good question. Beyond the small opening I can only surmise 
> that 
> >> this bag suits those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such 
> >> along tight trails hence keeping it all close in with the bike. Just my 
> .02 
> >> 
> >> I for one love my low saddle long flap bag. 
> >> 
> >> ~Hugh 
> >> 
> >> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for 
> >>> offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that 
> >>> the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming 
> >>> popular. Like this one: 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha 
> >>> 
> >>> And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and 
> >>> which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a 
> >>> transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? 
> >>> 
> >>> I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at 
> >>> that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling 
> >>> rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. 
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> -- Anne Paulson 
> >>> 
> >>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
> > 
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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Michael]

>
> I love my carradice pendle bag.

 
I got a great blowout sales price from Peter White Cycles on my first one.
 
I need to get another for my Bleriot.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Joe Broach]

Hi Anne,

Interesting observations. I've been happy with my old Baggins Hoss but not
too thrilled with my Carradice Camper (purchased in 2010). The leather
straps on the latter are poor quality and started cracking almost
immediately. The hardware is cheap with sharp edges. It's currently out of
commission because one of the screws attaching the bag to the wooden dowel
pulled through the fabric. Too much stress is placed on these tiny screws
because the dowel constantly gets pulled out of their leather endcap
reinforcements. Maybe some of their smaller bags work better. I wouldn't
buy another, though I've heard that older production was better quality.
I'll stick to Riv or others for saddlebag needs.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or




On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Anne Paulson wrote:

> "The nylon used is heavy duty and top notch,and very very well thought
> out,  unlike your common saddlebag."
>
> I don't doubt that the Revelate bags are thought out, but I take
> exception to the idea that other saddlebags are not well thought out.
> I have both a Nelson Longflap and the splendid Rivendell Large
> Saddlesack. Both are exceedingly well thought out.
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Deacon Patrick 
> wrote:
> > "those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such along tight
> > trails"
> >
> > I thought that's what momentum is for. Grin. It got me through a number
> of
> > snug encounters with a satisfying "CRACK SNAP!" That SaddleSack waxed
> canvas
> > is durable stuff and such loving abuse just adds character to it.
> >
> > With abandon,
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:43:07 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
> >>
> >> That's a good question. Beyond the small opening I can only surmise that
> >> this bag suits those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such
> >> along tight trails hence keeping it all close in with the bike. Just my
> .02
> >>
> >> I for one love my low saddle long flap bag.
> >>
> >> ~Hugh
> >>
> >> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for
> >>> offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that
> >>> the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming
> >>> popular. Like this one:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha
> >>>
> >>> And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and
> >>> which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a
> >>> transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell?
> >>>
> >>> I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at
> >>> that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling
> >>> rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> -- Anne Paulson
> >>>
> >>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis

[Bill Lindsay]

Jim Bronson

I assume you mean in the White Industries setup?  The big ring is the spider

When using White Industries crank arms, the big ring attaches to the 
splined part of the right crank arm and is held in place with a lock ring. 
 The small ring bolts to the big ring.  Check out lots of pictures at 
www.whiteind.com

regards

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:09:22 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Where's the spider in that setup?
>
>>
>>  

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[RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Deacon Patrick]

This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest gear 
that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially happens 
if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

Possible fixes would seem to be:
— remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
— monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over my 
head on that one.
— Other ideas?

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Garth]

FWIW .. I don't consider the Nelson and others like it "common", so my 
comment was not speaking to those Anne ;)   I'm speaking of the common bags 
you find most widely distributed in bike shops and online retailers and 
such.  To a Riv owner, yes they are ... but outside of this comparatively 
small circle , most have not heard of or seen a Nelson bag, let alone a 
Rivendell frame ! 


On Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:11:53 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> "The nylon used is heavy duty and top notch,and very very well thought 
> out,  unlike your common saddlebag." 
>
> I don't doubt that the Revelate bags are thought out, but I take 
> exception to the idea that other saddlebags are not well thought out. 
> I have both a Nelson Longflap and the splendid Rivendell Large 
> Saddlesack. Both are exceedingly well thought out. 
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Deacon Patrick 
> > 
> wrote: 
> > "those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such along tight 
> > trails" 
> > 
> > I thought that's what momentum is for. Grin. It got me through a number 
> of 
> > snug encounters with a satisfying "CRACK SNAP!" That SaddleSack waxed 
> canvas 
> > is durable stuff and such loving abuse just adds character to it. 
> > 
> > With abandon, 
> > Patrick 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:43:07 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: 
> >> 
> >> That's a good question. Beyond the small opening I can only surmise 
> that 
> >> this bag suits those not wanting to get tangled up with bushes and such 
> >> along tight trails hence keeping it all close in with the bike. Just my 
> .02 
> >> 
> >> I for one love my low saddle long flap bag. 
> >> 
> >> ~Hugh 
> >> 
> >> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for 
> >>> offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that 
> >>> the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming 
> >>> popular. Like this one: 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha 
> >>> 
> >>> And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and 
> >>> which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a 
> >>> transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? 
> >>> 
> >>> I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at 
> >>> that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling 
> >>> rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. 
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> -- Anne Paulson 
> >>> 
> >>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
> > 
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Re: [RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis

[Mike On A Bike]

Do you have one of the cranks, Bill? If so, I'd like to know how much 
mileage you've gotten out of your W.I rings. I read a post on here where 
Jan Heine said the rings he sells that are made of 7075 aluminum last 
~25,000 miles and I was interested to know if White's have a high life 
expectancy as well. The proprietary rings issue irked me at first with this 
crank, but my hope is that the high quality typical of W.I products will 
make it worth it. 

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:25:39 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Jim Bronson
>
> I assume you mean in the White Industries setup?  The big ring is the 
> spider
>
> When using White Industries crank arms, the big ring attaches to the 
> splined part of the right crank arm and is held in place with a lock ring. 
>  The small ring bolts to the big ring.  Check out lots of pictures at 
> www.whiteind.com
>
> regards
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:09:22 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> Where's the spider in that setup?
>>
>>>
>>>  

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Re: [RBW] Nitto love and more box origami

[Curtis McKenzie]

The box thing. When my Albatross bar arrived I felt sure they were on back
order. However, they were in the impossibly small box.

Enjoy your Riv stuff and stay clean with the soap.

Curtis

On Thursday, October 31, 2013, Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I got a Riv Box yesterday.  My order was Steel Albatross bars, tektro
> brakelevers, a bar of grampa's pine tar soap, a black and white bandanna,
> and some goldy brassy ferrules.
>
> 1.  The box was so small that I was 100% CERTAIN that one of three things
> had happened:
>   A. they forgot to ship the handlebars
>   B. they shipped the wrong bars
>   C. the box was a tardis--bigger on the inside than the outside
>
> Turns out it must have been C, because the steel Albatross bars were in
> there.  Amazing such a big bar fit in what looked like such a little box
>
> 2.  Getting a new Nitto Part is always really gratifying for me.  I think
> Nitto is really nice
>
> 3.  I love my bandanna collection.  I recommend adding a $3 bandanna to
> every Riv order.  I'm becoming a bit of a bandanna hoarder.
>
> 4.  I really like how classy my builds look with brassy ferrules.  I used
> to ask Mark A personally for a handful when I needed them.  I'm glad they
> sell them in those $5 baggies now.
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Re: [RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis

[Bill Lindsay]

I do have a White VBC crankset.  I've only had it a short while and I load 
balance across several bikes, so it hasn't seen a lot of miles yet.  VBC 
rings are 7075 aluminum also.I'm not terribly worried about the 
proprietary rings.  If I get nervous I'll buy a few spares.  

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:40:26 PM UTC-7, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>
> Do you have one of the cranks, Bill? If so, I'd like to know how much 
> mileage you've gotten out of your W.I rings. I read a post on here where 
> Jan Heine said the rings he sells that are made of 7075 aluminum last 
> ~25,000 miles and I was interested to know if White's have a high life 
> expectancy as well. The proprietary rings issue irked me at first with this 
> crank, but my hope is that the high quality typical of W.I products will 
> make it worth it. 
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:25:39 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Jim Bronson
>>
>> I assume you mean in the White Industries setup?  The big ring is the 
>> spider
>>
>> When using White Industries crank arms, the big ring attaches to the 
>> splined part of the right crank arm and is held in place with a lock ring. 
>>  The small ring bolts to the big ring.  Check out lots of pictures at 
>> www.whiteind.com
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:09:22 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> Where's the spider in that setup?
>>>

  

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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Steve Palincsar]

On 10/31/2013 06:35 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in 
lowest gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. 
Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.


Possible fixes would seem to be:
— remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
— monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m 
over my head on that one.

— Other ideas?


Bent chain ring tooth?


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[RBW] POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?

[Michael]

1. You like gray or black on your Rivendell?
2. You like silver, or brass colored ferrules like Riv does?
 
Noticed that Riv builds have gray housing with brass ferrules. Was 
wondering why they use that combo.
Seems like it stands out less on a bike than black housing does. What a 
cool idea. Don't know if they really do it for that reason.
 
So was wondering what everyone's preference was for their Rivendells.
 
My answers:
1. Gray
2. Brass.
 
I hope to put gray on my Bleriot soon. it has black now. I like the gray on 
my Sam.

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Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Deacon Patrick]

"Bent chain ring tooth?"

Isn't that improbable on the granny?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:54:00 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>  On 10/31/2013 06:35 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>  
> This isn�t happening when shifting, it�s new and happening when well 
> established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
> gear that it doesn�t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. 
> Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.
>
>  Possible fixes would seem to be: 
> � remove, clean, lube chain (it�s been 18 months)
> � monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I�m 
> over my head on that one.
> � Other ideas?
>  
>
> Bent chain ring tooth?
>
>
> 

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[RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Bill Lindsay]

Has it been 18 months on that chain?  It would be worth a measurement if it 
has been.  24 links should be exactly 12 inches.  Common rule of thumb is 
replace the chain every 2000miles

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:35:22 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
> established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
> gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially 
> happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.
>
> Possible fixes would seem to be:
> — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
> — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over 
> my head on that one.
> — Other ideas?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>  
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[RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?

[Deacon Patrick]

It works so well I don't need to notice it. That's what I prefer. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:09:54 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
>
> 1. You like gray or black on your Rivendell?
> 2. You like silver, or brass colored ferrules like Riv does?
>  
> Noticed that Riv builds have gray housing with brass ferrules. Was 
> wondering why they use that combo.
> Seems like it stands out less on a bike than black housing does. What a 
> cool idea. Don't know if they really do it for that reason.
>  
> So was wondering what everyone's preference was for their Rivendells.
>  
> My answers:
> 1. Gray
> 2. Brass.
>  
> I hope to put gray on my Bleriot soon. it has black now. I like the gray 
> on my Sam.
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Re: [RBW] POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?

[Peter Morgano]

Jagwire titanium with brass ferrules, silver and gold baby!
On Oct 31, 2013 7:09 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> 1. You like gray or black on your Rivendell?
> 2. You like silver, or brass colored ferrules like Riv does?
>
> Noticed that Riv builds have gray housing with brass ferrules. Was
> wondering why they use that combo.
> Seems like it stands out less on a bike than black housing does. What a
> cool idea. Don't know if they really do it for that reason.
>
> So was wondering what everyone's preference was for their Rivendells.
>
> My answers:
> 1. Gray
> 2. Brass.
>
> I hope to put gray on my Bleriot soon. it has black now. I like the gray
> on my Sam.
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[RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[hsmitham]

Deacon,

Ah yes replace chain...it's not expensive, you Scots. Grin

I've had chain suck once and it was my fault starting a climb as I waited 
too long to gear up and feather the front derailleur. I could imagine that 
though you geared up at an appropriate time that the chain wasn't fully 
engaged with said cog resulting in an alignment issue exacerbated at the 
trail end of the front derailleur pushing the chain down between chain stay 
and derailleur. 

~Hugh

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:35:22 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
> established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
> gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially 
> happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.
>
> Possible fixes would seem to be:
> — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
> — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over 
> my head on that one.
> — Other ideas?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Bill Lindsay]

Measure it before you replace it, though.  If it is horribly stretched, you 
may be replacing the entire drivetrain.  Chain + cogset + chainrings.  If 
the chain is horribly stretched and you only replace the chain, a new chain 
might be even worse.  Measure first to get a sneak preview.  

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:24:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Deacon,
>
> Ah yes replace chain...it's not expensive, you Scots. Grin
>
> I've had chain suck once and it was my fault starting a climb as I waited 
> too long to gear up and feather the front derailleur. I could imagine that 
> though you geared up at an appropriate time that the chain wasn't fully 
> engaged with said cog resulting in an alignment issue exacerbated at the 
> trail end of the front derailleur pushing the chain down between chain stay 
> and derailleur. 
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:35:22 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
>> established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
>> gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially 
>> happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.
>>
>> Possible fixes would seem to be:
>> — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
>> — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over 
>> my head on that one.
>> — Other ideas?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
>> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>>  
>>

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[RBW] Re: Hetre/Synergy safety issue?

[Mike B]

Thanks Toshi and thanks Jan.  I liked everything else about the Hetres and 
I'm going to give them another shot at some point.  My bike is 58cm but 
there is a 54cm Polyvalent kickin around that my girlfriend rides. Maybe I 
will put em on that bike and see how it feels. I will report back if its 
any different.
Cheers
Mike

On Friday, October 25, 2013 1:13:39 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
>
> Someone on a thread here says Hetre BSD size is too big for synergy rims.
> Am I in danger using these tires with these rims?
> I don't want them coming off while I am riding.
> Mine seem to fit my new ( year 2012) Synergy rim fine.
> Also my Twin Hollow rim.
> Any advice welcome.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Hugh Smitham]

Bill,

He needs to look at the chain ring teeth if they are sharp then he'll need
to replace same goes for the cassette, my understanding is that the issue
is throwing on a new chain with worn out chain rings and cassette teeth
will result in poor shifting and destroy a perfectly good chain.

`Hugh

Best,


~Hugh


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Measure it before you replace it, though.  If it is horribly stretched,
> you may be replacing the entire drivetrain.  Chain + cogset + chainrings.
>  If the chain is horribly stretched and you only replace the chain, a new
> chain might be even worse.  Measure first to get a sneak preview.
>
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:24:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Deacon,
>>
>> Ah yes replace chain...it's not expensive, you Scots. Grin
>>
>> I've had chain suck once and it was my fault starting a climb as I waited
>> too long to gear up and feather the front derailleur. I could imagine that
>> though you geared up at an appropriate time that the chain wasn't fully
>> engaged with said cog resulting in an alignment issue exacerbated at the
>> trail end of the front derailleur pushing the chain down between chain stay
>> and derailleur.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:35:22 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well
>>> established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest
>>> gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially
>>> happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.
>>>
>>> Possible fixes would seem to be:
>>> — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
>>> — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m
>>> over my head on that one.
>>> — Other ideas?
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
>>> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Deacon Patrick]

Scots are all about spending money in maintenance to save more money in 
breakage. This just started, so hopefully no drive train issues save the 
chain.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:24:14 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Deacon,
>
> Ah yes replace chain...it's not expensive, you Scots. Grin
>
> I've had chain suck once and it was my fault starting a climb as I waited 
> too long to gear up and feather the front derailleur. I could imagine that 
> though you geared up at an appropriate time that the chain wasn't fully 
> engaged with said cog resulting in an alignment issue exacerbated at the 
> trail end of the front derailleur pushing the chain down between chain stay 
> and derailleur. 
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:35:22 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
>> established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
>> gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially 
>> happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.
>>
>> Possible fixes would seem to be:
>> — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
>> — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over 
>> my head on that one.
>> — Other ideas?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
>> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>>  
>>

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Christian]

Anne et al,

Take a look at these excellent blogs: http://www.whileoutriding.com and 
http://thelazyrando.wordpress.com. Some of you no doubt know about them 
already.  There's a lot of good info on the pros and cons of bikepacking 
type set ups.  I've learned a lot and gone from being very skeptical--oh 
what's the point of that-I used panniers on the great divide-etc and so 
forth to thinking thee bikepacking set ups have great merit.But, 
really, of course, whatever works. 

Christian 
  

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:10:44 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for 
> offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that 
> the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming 
> popular. Like this one: 
>
> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha 
>
> And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and 
> which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a 
> transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? 
>
> I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at 
> that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling 
> rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. 
>
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson 
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Edwin W]

I was having the worst ghost shifts with my 1x8 set up on my Sam. A good chain 
cleaning (1st in months) solved it. I used the PDW chain cleaning machine, but 
a stiff brush and cleaning fluid does the same. 

Edwin "don't like to clean things much" 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Hugh Smitham]

Just funnin with ya Deacon...I'm from a long line from the Hebrides


Best,


~Hugh


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Scots are all about spending money in maintenance to save more money in
> breakage. This just started, so hopefully no drive train issues save the
> chain.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:24:14 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Deacon,
>>
>> Ah yes replace chain...it's not expensive, you Scots. Grin
>>
>> I've had chain suck once and it was my fault starting a climb as I waited
>> too long to gear up and feather the front derailleur. I could imagine that
>> though you geared up at an appropriate time that the chain wasn't fully
>> engaged with said cog resulting in an alignment issue exacerbated at the
>> trail end of the front derailleur pushing the chain down between chain stay
>> and derailleur.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:35:22 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well
>>> established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest
>>> gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially
>>> happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.
>>>
>>> Possible fixes would seem to be:
>>> — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
>>> — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m
>>> over my head on that one.
>>> — Other ideas?
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
>>> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Deacon Patrick]

Absolutely, Hugh. Fun away! My ancestors are from the Argyle Peninsula, so 
just a few wee boat rides and portages away.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:12:53 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Just funnin with ya Deacon...I'm from a long line from the Hebrides
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> ~Hugh
>  
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Deacon Patrick 
> > wrote:
>
>> Scots are all about spending money in maintenance to save more money in 
>> breakage. This just started, so hopefully no drive train issues save the 
>> chain.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:24:14 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Deacon,
>>>
>>> Ah yes replace chain...it's not expensive, you Scots. Grin
>>>
>>> I've had chain suck once and it was my fault starting a climb as I 
>>> waited too long to gear up and feather the front derailleur. I could 
>>> imagine that though you geared up at an appropriate time that the chain 
>>> wasn't fully engaged with said cog resulting in an alignment issue 
>>> exacerbated at the trail end of the front derailleur pushing the chain down 
>>> between chain stay and derailleur. 
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:35:22 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
 established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
 gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially 
 happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.

 Possible fixes would seem to be:
 — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
 — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m 
 over my head on that one.
 — Other ideas?
  
 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Mike Schiller]

I'm with Garth, I prefer my Revelate seat bag to any of the Carradice 
saddlebags. They are lighter, don't sway and are great for compressing your 
gear.  Also. on rugged terrain, you are often pushing your bike, which can 
be a hassle with rear panniers in the way. 

As a lifelong backpacker, I've accumulated a lot of ultralight camping gear 
that fit's more easily in the smaller spaces of the frame bags while still 
providing the camp comforts I desire.  While I don't drag along chairs  and 
musical instruments I do bring along a small flask for campfire relaxing.

Plenty of bikepackers are not racers BTW, just out to enjoy the outdoors 
and ride without monstrous loads.  

~mike





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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Mojo]

My offroad riding buddies all carry packs. I ride with a rack and trunk 
bag, and strap on panniers for overnights+. Apparently I am hopelessly 
outdated. So be it. I have that equipment and don't plan to buy another set 
of bags to fit the latest trends, dagnabit!
 
 

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[RBW] Whimsy in the Catalogue

[Joe Bernard]

Ligatures; the plastic bastard that cracks on Silver shifters is actually 
called Plastic Bastard; Phil is "at the top of the bottom bracket heap". 
Someone(s) thoroughly enjoyed putting this together :)
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA

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[RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?

[Joe Bernard]

My first Bridgestone - an XO-3 in 1994 - came with gray, and that's been 
the way housing is "supposed" to look to me ever since. No particular 
preference for ferrules. They's shiny and that's good :)
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:09:54 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

> 1. You like gray or black on your Rivendell?
> 2. You like silver, or brass colored ferrules like Riv does?
>  
> Noticed that Riv builds have gray housing with brass ferrules. Was 
> wondering why they use that combo.
> Seems like it stands out less on a bike than black housing does. What a 
> cool idea. Don't know if they really do it for that reason.
>  
> So was wondering what everyone's preference was for their Rivendells.
>  
> My answers:
> 1. Gray
> 2. Brass.
>  
> I hope to put gray on my Bleriot soon. it has black now. I like the gray 
> on my Sam.
>

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[RBW] Re: Whimsy in the Catalogue

[hsmitham]

While up in June, Grant seemed at least to me having a grand time with 
Oliver and the photography. I think a lot of enjoyment went into it's 
creation.

~Hugh

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:37:57 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Ligatures; the plastic bastard that cracks on Silver shifters is actually 
> called Plastic Bastard; Phil is "at the top of the bottom bracket heap". 
> Someone(s) thoroughly enjoyed putting this together :)
>  
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Highland Day Ride

[hsmitham]

20 degrees and dark! I would say I'd love to join in but there's the matter 
of scents (not saying I stink) and that I think it's cold at 40 degrees, 
hey that is cold in Southern California :-) Seriously, I totally enjoy the 
scenery in your part of the world. One of these days I will ride in 
Colorado.

~Hugh

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:16:14 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Well it was a bundle and batten down your chihuahua type of day. 20˚F for 
> most of my ride, as I started out before sunrise, and quickly climbed to 
> 10,000+ feet. Lots of the ride was through 1-2” of remnant snow. I came to 
> one cleaning and the chihuahua was less dog and more kite — someone hadn’t 
> battened the poor lad down very well.
>
> Incredible views of Pikes Peak from an angle most don’t see. I passed the 
> “Bigfoot Crossing” sign on the Pikes Peak Highway, but it was too dark for 
> a photo, so it didn’t happen. Beautiful cloudless day and back by 2. What 
> fantastic country this is to explore and play in!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157637166639776
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear

[Joe Bernard]

Are you cross-chaining? You might be catching the chain on the front teeth 
sideways-like if the bend from the granny to the smaller rear cogs is too 
severe. I only use the granny in the 3-or-4 biggest/lowest-gear cogs.

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:35:22 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well 
> established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest 
> gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially 
> happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome.
>
> Possible fixes would seem to be:
> — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months)
> — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over 
> my head on that one.
> — Other ideas?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Tim McNamara]

On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Mike Schiller  wrote:
> 
> I'm with Garth, I prefer my Revelate seat bag to any of the Carradice 
> saddlebags. They are lighter, don't sway and are great for compressing your 
> gear.  Also. on rugged terrain, you are often pushing your bike, which can be 
> a hassle with rear panniers in the way. 
> 
> As a lifelong backpacker, I've accumulated a lot of ultralight camping gear 
> that fit's more easily in the smaller spaces of the frame bags while still 
> providing the camp comforts I desire.  While I don't drag along chairs  and 
> musical instruments I do bring along a small flask for campfire relaxing.
> 
> Plenty of bikepackers are not racers BTW, just out to enjoy the outdoors and 
> ride without monstrous loads.

Use your favorite search engine to check out Igor Kovse, a devotee of 
ultralight bike touring who has done things like ride through the Himalayas 
with less that a Carradice Nelson worth of gear. It's a different mindset- many 
of my friends take more stuff on an S24O than he did to ride across 100 French 
cols on his way to PBP or from Dushanbe to Delhi.  The Revelate would be more 
than spacious enough for Igor, I suspect.  IIRC he managed one tour with less 
than 10 kg worth of gear including the bike (none of my bikes weigh less than 
10 kg by themselves,  I think).  He is comfortable with things I would not be.

Ultimately you need to have the bags to haul what you think you need to haul.  
I did 10 days in the Alps plus a few days in Paris with my bike and what I 
could fit in a Carradice Nelson.  It's not hard to not carry too much stuff- 
but someone else's too much stuff is likely different than mine. That's OK.  

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[RBW] Another stolen Riv in the SfBay area

[Dan McNamara]

Not mine, just posting to help. Hopefully. 

I need to stop the Craigslist searches:

My 2008 Rivendell Bombadil bike was stolen on the night of Oct. 30 in the 
Claremont Hills. A great bummer as it is a wonderful (though very well used) 
bike that I have greatly enjoyed using over the past 5 years. I am offering a 
significant reward for its return. Or if you see if for sale somewhere, please 
let me know.

The photo was from a road trip earlier this year. The frame is instantly 
recognizable by the double top tube. Has road bars, 26" wheels with big tires, 
fenders, front and rear racks (at least least up until last night).

Thanks for any help

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/wan/4164139609.html

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[RBW] Another stolen Riv in the SfBay area

[Bill Lindsay]

why would anyone claim their 2TT Bombadil had 26" wheels?

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