Re: [RBW] ISO: 57cm A. Homer Hilsen

[Pondero]

Thanks, Dan.  I gave this option some consideration last night. 
 Ultimately, my decision was to pursue the 1.5cm longer TT.

I hope that your bike will find a perfect match soon.

Chris

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:56:35 PM UTC-6, Dan wrote:
>
> I am selling my 55cm AHH (the 55 takes 700C wheels).  The geometry is 
> below, I think it is pretty close to the 57 in geometry.  If you are 
> interested, I can give you more details, photos etc.
>
> TT length is 55.5cm.
> SO height 80cm
> ST is 55cm (c-t)
> Head Angle 72
> Seat Angle 72
> Fork Rake 52
> CS Length 45
> BB Drop 8.0
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Abelson
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Pondero  >wrote:
>
>> I (foolishly) sold my 650b, 56cm AHH, and now I must replace it.  I might 
>> try an exact replacement, but I'm also considering a 57cm, 700c wheel 
>> version.  I plan to explore used and new options quickly before the 2-1-13 
>> price change.
>>
>> Just gotta ask...anyone with a 57cm version that doesn't meet your needs?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[David Spranger]

Same here. Use them on all my Riv bikes seatposts with no issues. I do put 
a washer each side of the pitlock before installing. Yes, I do loose a 
little paint, but I think it is worth it for piece of mind when I lock up.

David
Charlotte, NC

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:05:45 AM UTC-5, Statrixbob wrote:
>
>  I use Pitlocks on both my Quickbeam and Hunqapillar seat posts. While I 
> may lose a little paint I feel much more secure. I've had no trouble with 
> the installation.
>
>
>
>
>  

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[RBW] Re: Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[Matthew J]

They are designed to work with a collar clamp.  The pit side holder 
(probably not an official term) has grooves in it.  So it probably will rub 
off some of the paint.
On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:02:30 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: 
>
> Thinking about getting pitlocks for my seatpost and saddle (yes, they 
> actually have one that clamps onto the post at the saddle bolt, thus 
> blocking access to it). Noone can steal your seatpost *or* saddle, then.
>  
> I am more concerned about the pitlocks scratching the paint on the seat 
> tube collar.
> How has yours worked out?
>

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Re: [RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Riv seatpost collars are counterbored on each end, one for the bolt head, and 
the other for a hex nut, which is pretty and elegant and functional. The 
pitlock ends do not fit into this counterbore. That is what I meant when I said 
pitlock wasn't easily compatible with Riv seat collars. Sure, you can run any 
bolt or, apparently, pitlock through that hole, and clamp down on the area 
outside the counterbore, which is likely to scratch the paint. I wouldn't do 
that, not so much because of the paint, but because it seems like a bad idea to 
just smoosh down on the seat lug over that counterbore.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Peter Morgano]

Yowza, that pic of a squished fork gave me a sad. I am glad you are ok. I
guess since you already shelled out for the couplers it would pay to have
it re-done. I know Bilenky will do a once color finish for a good price.
There are a few paints pretty close to what you had but again there are
just so many nice colors for a Rivendell. I am leaning towards Dark
Persimmon Metallic since mine is a pretty big bike. Something in my brain
tells me bigger bikes should be darker colors while small ones can be more
flamboyant, maybe all those years of BMX where it was cool to rock some
pink wheels with a turquoise seat, it was the 80s after all, haha.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Lynne Fitz  wrote:

> I'm in the same boat.  My Bleriot was wrecked last week (I am so lucky to
> be typing this), and it is either a new bike or getting it repaired.  And,
> of course, repainted.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157632430316656/with/
> 8356816688/
>
> I think I would want a green.  Maybe Atlantis green.  Maybe a custom green
> - that Frost Green Metallic is on my list.  Choices.  Or Pewter. Or...
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:39:52 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>
>> So my Bombadil is taking a short trip over to the Color Factory in
>> Waretown. Even though thier prices seem scarily low Bruce was awesome
>> on the phone so I am gonna take the leap soon. The only issue is I
>> have never gotten a re-spray and I am having angina over which color
>> is most appropriate for the twin TT bomba. I wanted something
>> metallic, maybe a dark purple or a soft orange, as you can see I am
>> worlds apart even in my own mind. Anyone have any pics of thier
>> bombadil they can share so I can play off some ideas?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Peter Morgano]

Lynne, after looking at those buckled top and down tubes maybe best to just
move on and get a Sam or Betty/Gomez. Then again I know how personally
invested people can be in a bike but just my 2 cents.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Peter Morgano wrote:

> Yowza, that pic of a squished fork gave me a sad. I am glad you are ok. I
> guess since you already shelled out for the couplers it would pay to have
> it re-done. I know Bilenky will do a once color finish for a good price.
> There are a few paints pretty close to what you had but again there are
> just so many nice colors for a Rivendell. I am leaning towards Dark
> Persimmon Metallic since mine is a pretty big bike. Something in my brain
> tells me bigger bikes should be darker colors while small ones can be more
> flamboyant, maybe all those years of BMX where it was cool to rock some
> pink wheels with a turquoise seat, it was the 80s after all, haha.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Lynne Fitz  wrote:
>
>> I'm in the same boat.  My Bleriot was wrecked last week (I am so lucky to
>> be typing this), and it is either a new bike or getting it repaired.  And,
>> of course, repainted.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157632430316656/with/
>> 8356816688/
>>
>> I think I would want a green.  Maybe Atlantis green.  Maybe a custom
>> green - that Frost Green Metallic is on my list.  Choices.  Or Pewter. Or...
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:39:52 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>>
>>> So my Bombadil is taking a short trip over to the Color Factory in
>>> Waretown. Even though thier prices seem scarily low Bruce was awesome
>>> on the phone so I am gonna take the leap soon. The only issue is I
>>> have never gotten a re-spray and I am having angina over which color
>>> is most appropriate for the twin TT bomba. I wanted something
>>> metallic, maybe a dark purple or a soft orange, as you can see I am
>>> worlds apart even in my own mind. Anyone have any pics of thier
>>> bombadil they can share so I can play off some ideas?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[SteveD]

I agree. I use pitlocks on both wheels on my Atlantis. But when I applied 
the pitlock on the seat post, the seat post kept slipping. Yeah, I could've 
clamped down harder on the pitlock, but the amount of pressure seemed a bit 
much to make it work. Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but I stopped using 
it on the seat post because I was worried that it might damage the bike. 
Just my two cents.

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:04:32 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> Riv seatpost collars are counterbored on each end, one for the bolt head, 
> and the other for a hex nut, which is pretty and elegant and functional. 
> The pitlock ends do not fit into this counterbore. That is what I meant 
> when I said pitlock wasn't easily compatible with Riv seat collars. Sure, 
> you can run any bolt or, apparently, pitlock through that hole, and clamp 
> down on the area outside the counterbore, which is likely to scratch the 
> paint. I wouldn't do that, not so much because of the paint, but because it 
> seems like a bad idea to just smoosh down on the seat lug over that 
> counterbore.

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RE: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Lynne:

Last to the party, but so sorry to hear about (and SEE, on Flickr - yikes!) 
your Bleriot.  So glad you're OK.  I had my Bombadil painted by Bilenky - it 
came out absolutely beautiful.

Re color, I honestly think it's hard to go wrong with Riv frames, especially 
with the cream headtube, but I do love my Atlantis in Pewter; a pic is reposted 
here (apologies for those who've peeked before):  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107210911/in/set-72157624427413755  
The color number is in the comments.

Hope you're feeling better!

Tom

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Fitz
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

I'm in the same boat.  My Bleriot was wrecked last week (I am so lucky to be 
typing this), and it is either a new bike or getting it repaired.  And, of 
course, repainted.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157632430316656/with/8356816688/

I think I would want a green.  Maybe Atlantis green.  Maybe a custom green - 
that Frost Green Metallic is on my list.  Choices.  Or Pewter. Or...

On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:39:52 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
So my Bombadil is taking a short trip over to the Color Factory in
Waretown. Even though thier prices seem scarily low Bruce was awesome
on the phone so I am gonna take the leap soon. The only issue is I
have never gotten a re-spray and I am having angina over which color
is most appropriate for the twin TT bomba. I wanted something
metallic, maybe a dark purple or a soft orange, as you can see I am
worlds apart even in my own mind. Anyone have any pics of thier
bombadil they can share so I can play off some ideas?
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[RBW] Mystery Bike mods

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much as I 
loved the Bruce Gordon Rock 'n' Roads, they had to go.  Here are a few pics of 
Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers and Longboards.  
Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another coat of shellac on bars and 
kickstand and twine over taillight wire on LOOONG rack stay, and we're ready to 
go.

New config:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/photostream

Cockpit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366650661/in/photostream

Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay bridge 
bolt hole for fender:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/photostream

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Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Lee Chae]

Hey Riv listers. Here's a great resource for colors:
http://paintref.com/paintref/index.shtml. The site provides color codes,
samples, and sometimes pics, for a large number of automobile makes and
years. So, if you've always liked the baby blue on a '67 Mustang or the
cool color range on 1970s Beetles and Westfalias, check it out. Caveat: May
make you more indecisive on color choice.

Lee
SF, CA




On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote:

>  Lynne:
>
> ** **
>
> Last to the party, but so sorry to hear about (and SEE, on Flickr –
> yikes!) your Bleriot.  So glad you’re OK.  I had my Bombadil painted by
> Bilenky – it came out absolutely beautiful.
>
> ** **
>
> Re color, I honestly think it’s hard to go wrong with Riv frames,
> especially with the cream headtube, but I do love my Atlantis in Pewter; a
> pic is reposted here (apologies for those who’ve peeked before):
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107210911/in/set-72157624427413755
> The color number is in the comments.
>
> ** **
>
> Hope you’re feeling better!
>
> ** **
>
> Tom
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Lynne Fitz
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:07 AM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person
>
> ** **
>
> I'm in the same boat.  My Bleriot was wrecked last week (I am so lucky to
> be typing this), and it is either a new bike or getting it repaired.  And,
> of course, repainted.
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157632430316656/with/8356816688/
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I think I would want a green.  Maybe Atlantis green.  Maybe a custom green
> - that Frost Green Metallic is on my list.  Choices.  Or Pewter. Or...
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:39:52 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>
> So my Bombadil is taking a short trip over to the Color Factory in
> Waretown. Even though thier prices seem scarily low Bruce was awesome
> on the phone so I am gonna take the leap soon. The only issue is I
> have never gotten a re-spray and I am having angina over which color
> is most appropriate for the twin TT bomba. I wanted something
> metallic, maybe a dark purple or a soft orange, as you can see I am
> worlds apart even in my own mind. Anyone have any pics of thier
> bombadil they can share so I can play off some ideas? 
>
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Re: [RBW] Mystery Bike mods

[Jim Mather]

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J
 wrote:
> I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much as I
> loved the Bruce Gordon Rock ‘n’ Roads, they had to go.  Here are a few pics
> of Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers and Longboards.

That looks great! It makes me wonder what happened to the other
mystery bikes -- I don't think I've seen posts from any other owners.

jim m
wc ca

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RE: [RBW] Mystery Bike mods

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I know who a few of the other owners are, but I ain't outin' nobody!

-Original Message-
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Mystery Bike mods

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
 wrote:
> I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so 
> much as I loved the Bruce Gordon Rock 'n' Roads, they had to go.  Here 
> are a few pics of Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers and 
> Longboards.

That looks great! It makes me wonder what happened to the other mystery bikes 
-- I don't think I've seen posts from any other owners.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: A week in northern Lao on my hillborne

[Paul Y]

A few post-ride thoughts: 

Grant is truly wise!!!

1. I would do it with platforms and regular shoes next time. Time ATAC's 
and mtb shoes were too uncomfortable within a context of five straight 
8-hour days, and you wouldn't need to schlepp an extra pair of footwear. 

2. Would not use a chamois for touring again. They are too hard to dry, and 
didn't make a big comfort difference. I tried riding with a speedo under my 
shorts, in a chamois, and commando (nothing dried!!). 150 km commando was 
ok! A chamois just made laundry harder. I actually dumped mine on the trip.

3. Would just take 2 pairs of traveller zip-off trousers next time, one for 
riding, one for dinner. 

4. Probably ride in a t-shirt or a long sleeved shirt (sun protection) next 
time. The racing jersey did nothing to help. Last day in a t-shirt was 
possibly even more comfortable. 

5. My rim tape was broken and I didn't realize until 2 tubes later. (the 
valve hole was exposed and cutting the valves...I just thought I had 
defective tubes). About 50 km from the next village (don't think one would 
find a 700c tube anywhere in Lao anyway), I managed to make a 26"x1.95 tube 
that Jeff was carrying work in my 700x45 wheel. It actually held up very, 
very well. I also used a bit of broken tube (1" x 1") with a hole in the 
center and put this around the new tube's valve to protect it. Scissors is 
real important! Worked perfectly - learnt so much on this trip. 



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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam FS

[novevolta]

sold yet? still available?

On Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:58:32 AM UTC-4, Ryan Ray wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Ride report: A week in northern Lao on my hillborne

[Paul Y]

I definitely found myself hankering after a hunq on this ride.




On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:12:19 AM UTC+7, Jim M. wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Paul Y > 
> wrote: 
> >I'd much prefer a 2" tire on my next visit. 
> > 
>
> Looks like a great ride! Thanks for documenting it for us. 2" tires? 
> You're going to need a Hunq or Bomba for the next trip. 
>
> jim m 
> wc ca 
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[RBW] WTB: Sugino XD triple 175 mm arms

[gordo]

Hey there,

Just wondering if anyone has a spare Sugino triple sitting around.  I am 
just about done with a project and trying to use all second-hand parts. 
 Looking for one with 175 mm arms and a 24-36-48 set up, although I'd be 
okay with a 26 and/or 46 for the inner/outer.  

Please message me offline (egordon2231(at)gmail.com) if you happen to have 
anything.

Thanks so much and happy riding,

gordo

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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[El Sapo]

I like the bare metal look alot. Is that clear paint or clear powder over 
the bare metal? Is there any color diference at the lugs? Can you see the 
material used to connect the tubes to the lugs? I've seen bare metal fillet 
brazed bikes and the color difference between the steel tubes and the 
"gold" brazed areas looks pretty cool. 
 
I also wonder if you've had any issues with rust? I'm in the Seems like I 
read something from Grant where he said he wasn't going to send out bare 
metal frames because the finish wasn't holding up. 
 

I'm partial to clear coat over bare metal: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8155803596/in/photostream 

But purple and orange sound good too. 

jim m 
wc ca 

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[RBW] Re: New frame specials up on rivbike

[redsydude]

There's a note on the Hillborne page that says the next batch will go to 55 
cm and a note in yesterdays e-mail that the 55 cm Betty Foy is 650B but is 
there additional information that the 55 cm Sam Hillborne will be 650B?
On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 9:04:23 AM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> saw the note about the Betty's... the Hillbornes are supposed to follow 
> suit and get a 55cm 650B model I read.  Hopefully it will be a single top 
> tube.
> may be time to get a new Riv!
>
> ~mike
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:45:11 PM UTC-8, Dave wrote:
>>
>> Solid deal on a demo Betty foy, among others
>
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[RBW] Re: 2013 Riding Plans anyone?

[hsmitham]

Hi I'm a almost a new Riv owner, sold my Cervelo R3 carbon bike so I could 
purchase a A.A.H.  It's been four months since I sold the bike and am 
getting close to finally getting on my new Riv. My riding plans are to at 
first try a commute to work which would be round trip 35 miles, perhaps do 
this at least once per week, then ride for fitness two days during my work 
week with a longish Saturday ride. I'm planning a light tour with my 
Brother and Nephew from Salinas ( Maybe San Francisco) to SLO via Big Sur, 
maybe a longer tour in the fall doing a circuit around San Diego county. 
And trying to hook up with Southern California Riv riders. Taking delivery 
of my new Riv is a great way to start 2013. 

On Sunday, January 6, 2013 8:47:08 AM UTC-8, Kelly wrote:
>
> Dawn and I were talking about vacation schedules this year and since they 
> changed how it was done at her work place it's been dicy getting dates that 
> work for thing like Michigan Shoreline West and thing as such.   However we 
> had a fantastic 2012 and were talking about the upcoming year.   We had 
> some casual ideas ... and then we decided to reduce cost by staying within 
> driving distance and excluding airfare. With that in mind here are some of 
> the rides / hopes for our 2013.  What are yours? 
>
> April -  Tour de Hills in Harrison Arkansas - One day ride
> May - Three State Three Mountain Challenge - One day ride
> May - Horsey Hundred - two day ride
> May- Weekend overnight
> June-  One week fully loaded tour... leaning towards Train to Chicago then 
> ride home. 
> July - try to survive heat during local club rides and around town stuff.
> August - One week fully loaded Cowboy Trail 
> September - 2 weeks and do the Erie Canal or Natchez Trace or USBR 35 From 
> Sault Ste. Marie to New Buffalo - Leaning towards Erie Canal at the Moment 
> though logistically it's the toughest of the three.
> October -  Hilly Hundred 2 day ride
> November - FestiVELO 4 day ride 
>
> Looking forward to 2013 and seeing what y'all are doing.. 
>
> Happy Trails
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[steel lugs]

Lynne - Am also sorry to hear about your Bleriot and glad you're OK... Like
Tom, I also went with Pewter/Cream when I special ordered my Rambouillet
and haven't couldn't be more satisfied with how well it came out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/38991087@N05/4482258943/in/photostream

Have fun with whatever color you ultimately decide on!



On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote:

>  Lynne:
>
> ** **
>
> Last to the party, but so sorry to hear about (and SEE, on Flickr –
> yikes!) your Bleriot.  So glad you’re OK.  I had my Bombadil painted by
> Bilenky – it came out absolutely beautiful.
>
> ** **
>
> Re color, I honestly think it’s hard to go wrong with Riv frames,
> especially with the cream headtube, but I do love my Atlantis in Pewter; a
> pic is reposted here (apologies for those who’ve peeked before):
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107210911/in/set-72157624427413755
> The color number is in the comments.
>
> ** **
>
> Hope you’re feeling better!
>
> ** **
>
> Tom
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Lynne Fitz
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:07 AM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person
>
> ** **
>
> I'm in the same boat.  My Bleriot was wrecked last week (I am so lucky to
> be typing this), and it is either a new bike or getting it repaired.  And,
> of course, repainted.
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157632430316656/with/8356816688/
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I think I would want a green.  Maybe Atlantis green.  Maybe a custom green
> - that Frost Green Metallic is on my list.  Choices.  Or Pewter. Or...
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:39:52 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>
> So my Bombadil is taking a short trip over to the Color Factory in
> Waretown. Even though thier prices seem scarily low Bruce was awesome
> on the phone so I am gonna take the leap soon. The only issue is I
> have never gotten a re-spray and I am having angina over which color
> is most appropriate for the twin TT bomba. I wanted something
> metallic, maybe a dark purple or a soft orange, as you can see I am
> worlds apart even in my own mind. Anyone have any pics of thier
> bombadil they can share so I can play off some ideas? 
>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?

[Paul Y]

I ride my tallux maxed out. Love it!

On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:38:57 PM UTC+7, Michael wrote:
>
> Or is it just me (for now) (apologies for the wimpy saddle bag. Can't wait 
> to get a more sizeable one):
>  
>  
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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Here are some close images of the clear powder coat on an early Bombadil 
prototype - 

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc452-bombadilproto0208.html

GP's early Hilsen proto also had a similar finish - 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/507828696/

Most of the clear powder frames I've seen have looked pretty close to 
those.  

It is clear powder coat.  There have been some reports (archives?) of 
surface rust showing up under the powder coat. 

Clear coat as used over paint would be  much, much worse.  I've seen a few 
of those and they are much more porous and rust within a short period.

- J

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:57:00 PM UTC-8, El Sapo wrote:
>
> I like the bare metal look alot. Is that clear paint or clear powder over 
> the bare metal? Is there any color diference at the lugs? Can you see the 
> material used to connect the tubes to the lugs? I've seen bare metal fillet 
> brazed bikes and the color difference between the steel tubes and the 
> "gold" brazed areas looks pretty cool. 
>  
> I also wonder if you've had any issues with rust? I'm in the Seems like I 
> read something from Grant where he said he wasn't going to send out bare 
> metal frames because the finish wasn't holding up. 
>  
>
> I'm partial to clear coat over bare metal: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8155803596/in/photostream 
>
> But purple and orange sound good too. 
>
> jim m 
> wc ca 
>

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[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Good

Gracious!

That is a gorgeous looking setup!

Looks stately and fast all at the same time.

- Jim

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:26:27 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
>
>  I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much 
> as I loved the Bruce Gordon Rock ‘n’ Roads, they had to go.  Here are a few 
> pics of Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers and 
> Longboards.  Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another coat of shellac 
> on bars and kickstand and twine over taillight wire on LOOONG rack stay, 
> and we’re ready to go.
>
>  
>
> New config:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/photostream  
>
>  
>
> Cockpit:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366650661/in/photostream 
>
>  
>
> Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay 
> bridge bolt hole for fender:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/photostream 
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RE: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I had a clearcoat (Riv called it Raw Clear Powdercoat) over bare metal Bombadil 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4249456177/in/set-72157624552118742/ 
, which has now been repainted 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4815169169/in/set-72157624552118742/ 
, as it was showing some rust under the clear.  But I would note two things: 
(i) my bike was being stored within 30 feet of a salt water back bay, and you 
can't get a much worse environment for a steel frame than that, regardless of 
whether it's painted, color powdered or clearcoated; and (ii) the rust didn't 
look bad, in fact it was pretty cool - I just got a little panicky, probably 
because it was my first foray into the higher priced steel frames, and I didn't 
want to take a risk.  In retrospect, I wish I'd left it - it looked great.



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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:49 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

Here are some close images of the clear powder coat on an early Bombadil 
prototype -

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc452-bombadilproto0208.html

GP's early Hilsen proto also had a similar finish -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/507828696/

Most of the clear powder frames I've seen have looked pretty close to those.

It is clear powder coat.  There have been some reports (archives?) of surface 
rust showing up under the powder coat.

Clear coat as used over paint would be  much, much worse.  I've seen a few of 
those and they are much more porous and rust within a short period.

- J

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:57:00 PM UTC-8, El Sapo wrote:
I like the bare metal look alot. Is that clear paint or clear powder over the 
bare metal? Is there any color diference at the lugs? Can you see the material 
used to connect the tubes to the lugs? I've seen bare metal fillet brazed bikes 
and the color difference between the steel tubes and the "gold" brazed areas 
looks pretty cool.

I also wonder if you've had any issues with rust? I'm in the Seems like I read 
something from Grant where he said he wasn't going to send out bare metal 
frames because the finish wasn't holding up.


I'm partial to clear coat over bare metal:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8155803596/in/photostream

But purple and orange sound good too.

jim m
wc ca
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[RBW] Re: Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?

[Dave]

I ride my dirt drop at max height, with the printed words on the stem just 
inside of the tube.

D

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 8:29:39 PM UTC-8, Paul Y wrote:
>
> I ride my tallux maxed out. Love it!
>
> On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:38:57 PM UTC+7, Michael wrote:
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>> Or is it just me (for now) (apologies for the wimpy saddle bag. Can't 
>> wait to get a more sizeable one):
>>  
>>  
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RE: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Peter:

I had two frames painted by Bruce, both for less than $200, and both came out 
great.  One was a 1985 MB-2 (sort of Riv content?), here: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6708095501/in/set-72157628383880621  
The other was an early '80s (I think) Nishiki mixte frameset that he repainted 
(along with an old Simplex chainguard and a set of VO Zeppelin fenders) for a 
Christmas gift for my daughter-in-law, in Candy Apple Red, here:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7161292749/in/set-72157627582881347/ 
and here, with the chainguard:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7346233742/in/set-72157627582881347/ 
.  Total cost for two framesets, a set of fenders and the chainguard (with 
cream inset on the guard and a cream headtube on the mixte) was around $450.  
And everything looked great - almost (but not!) too good to be true.

Tom

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Morgano
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:09 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

I looked into PC, it seems like alot is in the prep, which you unfortunately 
cannot really see unless you are watching the guy and know what you are looking 
at, alot of acid baths and undercoatings that go unmentioned usually. I think 
the epoxy primers most paint shops use nowadays are superior at blocking 
moisture from getting to the raw steel and are therefore a bit more forgiving 
than an ok powder coat. Plus it seems like the cost of PC has gone up 
everywhere. Bruce quoted me less thann $200 for the whole job which is what my 
local guy was gonna charge me to powder coat. Shame sometimes I dont own a car 
since I am gonna have to ship it 2 1/2 hours away to NJ, but with the cost of 
gas to get there and back maybe coming out even in the end.
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:01 PM, ted 
mailto:ted.ke...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> I do know I want something a little tougher and thought about powder coat
> but don't know
I guess powder coat may be less scratch prone than paint but I gather
it's not as effective at preventing rust underneath it.
What have folks heard or experienced wrt two part polymer paints vs
powder coat?

On Jan 8, 4:56 pm, Kelly mailto:tkslee...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
> On our Custom Bilenky tandem we told them painters choice.. I'm ok with
> it.. Dawn is kinda freaking out.
>
> I need to send my Bombadil in for a repaint.. I've scratched it up pretty
> good which is ok.. but the bike rack that ravaged my seat tube decal is
> annoying the hell out of me.I'm thinking of going back to D&D for
> standard color repaint and decaling.. or is that just plain boring?
>
> I do know I want something a little tougher and thought about powder coat
> but don't know
>
> Dawn has custom colors on her Atlantis and Roadeo, all of mine are stock
> colors... hmmm stock colors are so easy and I know what they are going to
> look like.. :)  Sheesh now you have me in a mindless circle jerk of
> thoughts and to think I thought I had my mind made up.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:38:19 PM UTC-6, Colin B. wrote:
>
> > I'm in that camp. If I were to get a custom, I'd ask the builder to
> > pick the color.
>
> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> > mailto:thil...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> > > When I ordered my custom frame from Curt Goodrich, I asked Curt to pick
> > the
> > > color. He wasn't super comfortable with that idea.
>
> > > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 12:59:42 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
>
> > >> Hahaha, I am the opposite, where I cant give anyone an accurate
> > >> description. I would honestly prefer they just do whatever they want
> > and I
> > >> will love it, there is really no color that I don't like, outside of
> > neons.
> > >> Understandably, most shops are not comfortable with that arrangement
> > for
> > >> obvious reasons.  Oh the life of a chronically indecisive person, the
> > frame
> > >> has been sitting next to my bed this long while I waxed and waned about
> > >> where to just send the damn thing.
>
> > >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> > >> mailto:thil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > >>> I have no color advice, but I was reminded of a phone conversation I
> > >>> overheard years ago when I worked at another shop. A jaded mechanic
> > was on
> > >>> the phone for a long time with an apparently neurotic customer, who
> > was
> > >>> asking for a verbal description of a color of something or another...
> > All I
> > >>> really remember was the mechanic doing a perfect deadpan as he said:
> > "It's
> > >>> sorta halfway between asinine and muted puce."
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Peter Morgano]

Thomas,

Yeah Bruce seems like a straight shooter who does pretty good work.  I only
wish I had a car to drive it out there rather than wasting money with UPS
for shipping and risking having them screw it up. All of my friends are
hippy liberals who own either fixies or cargo bikes so no help there, haha.
I guess while I scare up a box I can obsesses over what color exactly that
I want... I will post when the bike comes back, I am sure I will be happy
whatever it is once I am riding it again.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote:

>  Peter:
>
> ** **
>
> I had two frames painted by Bruce, both for less than $200, and both came
> out great.  One was a 1985 MB-2 (sort of Riv content?), here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6708095501/in/set-72157628383880621
> The other was an early ‘80s (I think) Nishiki mixte frameset that he
> repainted (along with an old Simplex chainguard and a set of VO Zeppelin
> fenders) for a Christmas gift for my daughter-in-law, in Candy Apple Red,
> here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7161292749/in/set-72157627582881347/and
>  here, with the chainguard:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7346233742/in/set-72157627582881347/.
>   Total cost for two framesets, a set of fenders and the chainguard (with
> cream inset on the guard and a cream headtube on the mixte) was around
> $450.  And everything looked great – almost (but not!) too good to be true.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Tom
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Morgano
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:09 PM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person
>
> ** **
>
> I looked into PC, it seems like alot is in the prep, which you
> unfortunately cannot really see unless you are watching the guy and know
> what you are looking at, alot of acid baths and undercoatings that go
> unmentioned usually. I think the epoxy primers most paint shops use
> nowadays are superior at blocking moisture from getting to the raw steel
> and are therefore a bit more forgiving than an ok powder coat. Plus it
> seems like the cost of PC has gone up everywhere. Bruce quoted me less
> thann $200 for the whole job which is what my local guy was gonna charge me
> to powder coat. Shame sometimes I dont own a car since I am gonna have to
> ship it 2 1/2 hours away to NJ, but with the cost of gas to get there and
> back maybe coming out even in the end.
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:01 PM, ted  wrote:
>
> > I do know I want something a little tougher and thought about powder coat
> > but don't know
>
> I guess powder coat may be less scratch prone than paint but I gather
> it's not as effective at preventing rust underneath it.
> What have folks heard or experienced wrt two part polymer paints vs
> powder coat?
>
>
> On Jan 8, 4:56 pm, Kelly  wrote:
> > On our Custom Bilenky tandem we told them painters choice.. I'm ok with
> > it.. Dawn is kinda freaking out.
> >
> > I need to send my Bombadil in for a repaint.. I've scratched it up pretty
> > good which is ok.. but the bike rack that ravaged my seat tube decal is
> > annoying the hell out of me.I'm thinking of going back to D&D for
> > standard color repaint and decaling.. or is that just plain boring?
> >
> > I do know I want something a little tougher and thought about powder coat
> > but don't know
> >
> > Dawn has custom colors on her Atlantis and Roadeo, all of mine are stock
> > colors... hmmm stock colors are so easy and I know what they are going to
> > look like.. :)  Sheesh now you have me in a mindless circle jerk of
> > thoughts and to think I thought I had my mind made up.
> >
> > Kelly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:38:19 PM UTC-6, Colin B. wrote:
> >
> > > I'm in that camp. If I were to get a custom, I'd ask the builder to
> > > pick the color.
> >
> > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > When I ordered my custom frame from Curt Goodrich, I asked Curt to
> pick
> > > the
> > > > color. He wasn't super comfortable with that idea.
> >
> > > > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 12:59:42 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
> >
> > > >> Hahaha, I am the opposite, where I cant give anyone an accurate
> > > >> description. I would honestly prefer they just do whatever they want
> > > and I
> > > >> will love it, there is really no color that I don't like, outside of
> > > neons.
> > > >> Understandably, most shops are not comfortable with that arrangement
> > > for
> > > >> obvious reasons.  Oh the life of a chronically indecisive person,
> the
> > > frame
> > > >> has been sitting next to my bed this long while I waxed and waned
> about
> > > >> where to just send the damn thing.
> >
> > > >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>

Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Peter Morgano]

Oh, and dont let my wife see that Nishiki or she will want me to re-finish
hers, its so nicely finished with the matching fenders and "cute' bags as
she would say. Wifes Nishiki mixte currently a dark pewter metallic, which
is lovely but well used. There is always mothers day!

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote:

>  Peter:
>
> ** **
>
> I had two frames painted by Bruce, both for less than $200, and both came
> out great.  One was a 1985 MB-2 (sort of Riv content?), here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6708095501/in/set-72157628383880621
> The other was an early ‘80s (I think) Nishiki mixte frameset that he
> repainted (along with an old Simplex chainguard and a set of VO Zeppelin
> fenders) for a Christmas gift for my daughter-in-law, in Candy Apple Red,
> here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7161292749/in/set-72157627582881347/and
>  here, with the chainguard:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7346233742/in/set-72157627582881347/.
>   Total cost for two framesets, a set of fenders and the chainguard (with
> cream inset on the guard and a cream headtube on the mixte) was around
> $450.  And everything looked great – almost (but not!) too good to be true.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Tom
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Morgano
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:09 PM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person
>
> ** **
>
> I looked into PC, it seems like alot is in the prep, which you
> unfortunately cannot really see unless you are watching the guy and know
> what you are looking at, alot of acid baths and undercoatings that go
> unmentioned usually. I think the epoxy primers most paint shops use
> nowadays are superior at blocking moisture from getting to the raw steel
> and are therefore a bit more forgiving than an ok powder coat. Plus it
> seems like the cost of PC has gone up everywhere. Bruce quoted me less
> thann $200 for the whole job which is what my local guy was gonna charge me
> to powder coat. Shame sometimes I dont own a car since I am gonna have to
> ship it 2 1/2 hours away to NJ, but with the cost of gas to get there and
> back maybe coming out even in the end.
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:01 PM, ted  wrote:
>
> > I do know I want something a little tougher and thought about powder coat
> > but don't know
>
> I guess powder coat may be less scratch prone than paint but I gather
> it's not as effective at preventing rust underneath it.
> What have folks heard or experienced wrt two part polymer paints vs
> powder coat?
>
>
> On Jan 8, 4:56 pm, Kelly  wrote:
> > On our Custom Bilenky tandem we told them painters choice.. I'm ok with
> > it.. Dawn is kinda freaking out.
> >
> > I need to send my Bombadil in for a repaint.. I've scratched it up pretty
> > good which is ok.. but the bike rack that ravaged my seat tube decal is
> > annoying the hell out of me.I'm thinking of going back to D&D for
> > standard color repaint and decaling.. or is that just plain boring?
> >
> > I do know I want something a little tougher and thought about powder coat
> > but don't know
> >
> > Dawn has custom colors on her Atlantis and Roadeo, all of mine are stock
> > colors... hmmm stock colors are so easy and I know what they are going to
> > look like.. :)  Sheesh now you have me in a mindless circle jerk of
> > thoughts and to think I thought I had my mind made up.
> >
> > Kelly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:38:19 PM UTC-6, Colin B. wrote:
> >
> > > I'm in that camp. If I were to get a custom, I'd ask the builder to
> > > pick the color.
> >
> > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > When I ordered my custom frame from Curt Goodrich, I asked Curt to
> pick
> > > the
> > > > color. He wasn't super comfortable with that idea.
> >
> > > > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 12:59:42 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
> >
> > > >> Hahaha, I am the opposite, where I cant give anyone an accurate
> > > >> description. I would honestly prefer they just do whatever they want
> > > and I
> > > >> will love it, there is really no color that I don't like, outside of
> > > neons.
> > > >> Understandably, most shops are not comfortable with that arrangement
> > > for
> > > >> obvious reasons.  Oh the life of a chronically indecisive person,
> the
> > > frame
> > > >> has been sitting next to my bed this long while I waxed and waned
> about
> > > >> where to just send the damn thing.
> >
> > > >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> > > >>  wrote:
> >
> > > >>> I have no color advice, but I was reminded of a phone conversation
> I
> > > >>> overheard years ago when I worked at another shop. A jaded mechanic
> > > was on
> > > >>> the phone for a lo

[RBW] Re: Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I've always felt that if a person needs a super tall stem jacked to the 
minimum insert line, then s/he would do well to ride a larger frame size. 
If a larger frame size results in no standover and/or an unpleasant 
stretched-out feeling, then maybe a different bike brand/model is needed.



On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:23:13 PM UTC-6, Dave wrote:
>
> I ride my dirt drop at max height, with the printed words on the stem just 
> inside of the tube.
>
> D
>
> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 8:29:39 PM UTC-8, Paul Y wrote:
>>
>> I ride my tallux maxed out. Love it!
>>
>> On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:38:57 PM UTC+7, Michael wrote:
>>>
>>> Or is it just me (for now) (apologies for the wimpy saddle bag. Can't 
>>> wait to get a more sizeable one):
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Jim M.]

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:57:00 PM UTC-8, El Sapo wrote:

> I like the bare metal look alot. Is that clear paint or clear powder over 
> the bare metal? Is there any color diference at the lugs? Can you see the 
> material used to connect the tubes to the lugs? 
>  
> I also wonder if you've had any issues with rust? 
>

My frame looks a lot like the close-ups that are on Cyclofiend's website. 
There is some patina, but I'm not concerned about it. If it looks like it's 
getting too bad, I'll get the frame re-finished, probably with clear again. 

jim m
wc ca 

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[RBW] Re: 2013 Riding Plans anyone?

[Esteban]

Ride my bike more for fitness.  

MTB!

Continue commuting to work 4 out of 5 days - 10 miles each way.  For the 
mental health of it!

Randonees

Bike camp a few times locally

Summer adventure tour 

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Sunday, January 6, 2013 8:47:08 AM UTC-8, Kelly wrote:
>
> Dawn and I were talking about vacation schedules this year and since they 
> changed how it was done at her work place it's been dicy getting dates that 
> work for thing like Michigan Shoreline West and thing as such.   However we 
> had a fantastic 2012 and were talking about the upcoming year.   We had 
> some casual ideas ... and then we decided to reduce cost by staying within 
> driving distance and excluding airfare. With that in mind here are some of 
> the rides / hopes for our 2013.  What are yours? 
>
> April -  Tour de Hills in Harrison Arkansas - One day ride
> May - Three State Three Mountain Challenge - One day ride
> May - Horsey Hundred - two day ride
> May- Weekend overnight
> June-  One week fully loaded tour... leaning towards Train to Chicago then 
> ride home. 
> July - try to survive heat during local club rides and around town stuff.
> August - One week fully loaded Cowboy Trail 
> September - 2 weeks and do the Erie Canal or Natchez Trace or USBR 35 From 
> Sault Ste. Marie to New Buffalo - Leaning towards Erie Canal at the Moment 
> though logistically it's the toughest of the three.
> October -  Hilly Hundred 2 day ride
> November - FestiVELO 4 day ride 
>
> Looking forward to 2013 and seeing what y'all are doing.. 
>
> Happy Trails
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Thanks!  "Stately and fast all at the same time" - a consummation devoutly to 
be wished.  I've only ridden this a couple of miles as now set up, but it's 
definitely sweet.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cyclofiend Jim
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:50 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods

Good

Gracious!

That is a gorgeous looking setup!

Looks stately and fast all at the same time.

- Jim

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:26:27 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much as I 
loved the Bruce Gordon Rock 'n' Roads, they had to go.  Here are a few pics of 
Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers and Longboards.  
Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another coat of shellac on bars and 
kickstand and twine over taillight wire on LOOONG rack stay, and we're ready to 
go.

New config:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/photostream

Cockpit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366650661/in/photostream

Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay bridge 
bolt hole for fender:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/photostream

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Re: [RBW] Mystery Bike mods

[cyclotourist]

GREAT looking bike! I'm surprised it doesn't have a fender mount on the
bridge. Life of an early innovator :-)

So can't fit R&R + fenders? Could you fit 50mm Big Apples?


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote:

>  I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much
> as I loved the Bruce Gordon Rock ‘n’ Roads, they had to go.  Here are a few
> pics of Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers and
> Longboards.  Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another coat of shellac
> on bars and kickstand and twine over taillight wire on LOOONG rack stay,
> and we’re ready to go.
>
> ** **
>
> New config:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/photostream  
>
> ** **
>
> Cockpit:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366650661/in/photostream 
>
> ** **
>
> Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay
> bridge bolt hole for fender:
>
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[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods

[Brewster Fong]

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:26:27 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: 
>
>  I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much 
> as I loved the Bruce Gordon Rock ‘n’ Roads, they had to go.  
>
I'm confused as to what had to go? Are you saying that a Bruce Gordon Rock 
n' Roads can't fit fenders and that you had to  sell it to get your mystery 
bike?
 
I agree that in most cases, a commuter should have fenders. I'm lucky to 
have more than one bike and put fenders, albeit cheapy plastic Crud 
fenders, on one of my bikes to use when its wet outside. Otherwise, one 
lucky thing about living in my area is there are months when it doesn't 
rain and fenders are optional. Good Luck! 
 
 
 

>  Here are a few pics of Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta 
> Cruisers and Longboards.  Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another 
> coat of shellac on bars and kickstand and twine over taillight wire on 
> LOOONG rack stay, and we’re ready to go.
>
>  
>
> New config:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/photostream  
>
>  
>
> Cockpit:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366650661/in/photostream 
>
>  
>
> Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay 
> bridge bolt hole for fender:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/photostream 
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[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods

[Joe Bernard]

A wine cork fender spacer. Nice!
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:26:27 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:

>  I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much 
> as I loved the Bruce Gordon Rock ‘n’ Roads, they had to go.  Here are a few 
> pics of Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers and 
> Longboards.  Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another coat of shellac 
> on bars and kickstand and twine over taillight wire on LOOONG rack stay, 
> and we’re ready to go.
>
>  
>
> New config:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/photostream  
>
>  
>
> Cockpit:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366650661/in/photostream 
>
>  
>
> Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay 
> bridge bolt hole for fender:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/photostream 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods

[René Sterental]

Very nice!!!


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> A wine cork fender spacer. Nice!
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
> On Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:26:27 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
>
>>  I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much
>> as I loved the Bruce Gordon Rock ‘n’ Roads, they had to go.  Here are a few
>> pics of Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers and
>> Longboards.  Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another coat of shellac
>> on bars and kickstand and twine over taillight wire on LOOONG rack stay,
>> and we’re ready to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> New config:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/8367710962/in/**photostream
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cockpit:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/8366650661/in/**photostream
>>
>>
>>
>> Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay
>> bridge bolt hole for fender:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/8366365230/in/**photostream
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Re: [RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[Philip Williamson]

I have not seen a Pitlock seatpost skewer. Is it possible to slip a spacer 
or collar over the skewer? Basically cut the head off an M5 bolt and drill 
it out to turn it into a sleeve for the Pitlock to apply pressure to? 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:04:32 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> Riv seatpost collars are counterbored on each end, one for the bolt head, 
> and the other for a hex nut, which is pretty and elegant and functional. 
> The pitlock ends do not fit into this counterbore. That is what I meant 
> when I said pitlock wasn't easily compatible with Riv seat collars. Sure, 
> you can run any bolt or, apparently, pitlock through that hole, and clamp 
> down on the area outside the counterbore, which is likely to scratch the 
> paint. I wouldn't do that, not so much because of the paint, but because it 
> seems like a bad idea to just smoosh down on the seat lug over that 
> counterbore.

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RE: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

B:

No, I was referring to the Bruce G Rock 'n' Road tires that were formerly on 
the Mystery Bike (not to a BG Rock 'n' Road ).  I loved them, but 
couldn't make fenders work with them on that bike (at least not without 
substantial fiddling, and even then no guarantees), so I put the somewhat 
skinnier (around 36mm mounted) Delta Cruisers on the bike, along with 
Longboards.  Everything plays well together now, and the ride remains very 
cushy ("stately", as Cyclofiend suggests), but still surprisingly zippy and 
responsive.

Tom

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brewster Fong
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:23 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods


On Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:26:27 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much as I 
loved the Bruce Gordon Rock 'n' Roads, they had to go.
I'm confused as to what had to go? Are you saying that a Bruce Gordon Rock n' 
Roads can't fit fenders and that you had to  sell it to get your mystery bike?

I agree that in most cases, a commuter should have fenders. I'm lucky to have 
more than one bike and put fenders, albeit cheapy plastic Crud fenders, on one 
of my bikes to use when its wet outside. Otherwise, one lucky thing about 
living in my area is there are months when it doesn't rain and fenders are 
optional. Good Luck!



Here are a few pics of Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers 
and Longboards.  Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another coat of shellac 
on bars and kickstand and twine over taillight wire on LOOONG rack stay, and 
we're ready to go.

New config:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/photostream

Cockpit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366650661/in/photostream

Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay bridge 
bolt hole for fender:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/photostream

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RE: [RBW] Mystery Bike mods

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I might have been able to fit R + R plus fenders, but not Longboards, and wider 
fenders don't play well with the Tektro R559 sidepulls that are on the bike.  I 
suspect you could get a fender wide enough to handle the R + R tires if you 
replaced the sidepulls with some Paul Racers, and I actually gave it some 
thought, but it would have required some additional work, and no guarantee it 
would pan out, and anyway I like the way the brown Delta Cruisers look with the 
Longboards, so I think I'll try this combination out for a while and see how it 
goes.  If it turns out I really miss more air under my wings (speaking 
metaphorically), maybe I'll try the R + Rs (or some Duremes or Supremes - maybe 
some Marvellettes?) under a set of Racers and some wider Honjos.

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Mystery Bike mods

GREAT looking bike! I'm surprised it doesn't have a fender mount on the bridge. 
Life of an early innovator :-)
So can't fit R&R + fenders? Could you fit 50mm Big Apples?

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
mailto:thomas.alling...@skadden.com>> wrote:
I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much as I 
loved the Bruce Gordon Rock 'n' Roads, they had to go.  Here are a few pics of 
Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers and Longboards.  
Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another coat of shellac on bars and 
kickstand and twine over taillight wire on LOOONG rack stay, and we're ready to 
go.

New config:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/photostream

Cockpit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366650661/in/photostream

Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay bridge 
bolt hole for fender:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/photostream

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[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods

[William]

Brewster wrote:

"I'm confused as to what had to go? Are you saying that a Bruce Gordon Rock 
n' Roads can't fit fenders and that you had to  sell it to get your mystery 
bike?"

What Pudge meant was that he had been running Bruce Gordon Rock n' Road 
tires on his Mystery bike.  But, the Mystery bike didn't have the 
clearances to run those tires with the fenders he wanted, so he did the 
tire swap to enable the fender install  


On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:23:13 PM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:26:27 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: 
>>
>>  I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much 
>> as I loved the Bruce Gordon Rock ‘n’ Roads, they had to go.  
>>
> I'm confused as to what had to go? Are you saying that a Bruce Gordon Rock 
> n' Roads can't fit fenders and that you had to  sell it to get your mystery 
> bike?
>  
> I agree that in most cases, a commuter should have fenders. I'm lucky to 
> have more than one bike and put fenders, albeit cheapy plastic Crud 
> fenders, on one of my bikes to use when its wet outside. Otherwise, one 
> lucky thing about living in my area is there are months when it doesn't 
> rain and fenders are optional. Good Luck! 
>  
>  
>  
>
>>  Here are a few pics of Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta 
>> Cruisers and Longboards.  Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another 
>> coat of shellac on bars and kickstand and twine over taillight wire on 
>> LOOONG rack stay, and we’re ready to go.
>>
>>  
>>
>> New config:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/photostream  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Cockpit:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366650661/in/photostream 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay 
>> bridge bolt hole for fender:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/photostream 
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[RBW] Atlantis commute...

[René Sterental]

I started work this week and with my new 2013 goals, have started commuting
every other day to build up slowly. I commute from Palo Alto to San Jose
(California) and ride my bike from my house to Downtown Palo Alto where I
board the train to Downtown San Jose and then ride to work via the newly
paved Guadalupe River Trail. Currently it's about 15 minutes to ride from
my house (2.32 miles) and then 30 minutes on the GRT (5.2 miles) for a
total of aproximately 45 minutes each way.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8368773624/

It's funny (actually sad) how out of shape one can get, but I feel pretty
tired at the end of the day when I've done this commute. Not dead tired,
but still feel it, particularly on my legs.

Last week while I was still on vacation and it wasn't raining, I started
riding my Atlantis with its new low trail fork after taking a long time to
rebuild it. The original Berthoud fenders I was using on this bike needed
modifications (front) due to the new fork and misalignment of the hole that
held it to the front rack. So, I decided to get a new set of fenders and
found a pair of smooth 50mm Honjo fenders that I decided to try instead of
the Berthouds. These fenders have no holes drilled at all, so it's going to
be a long day of installation to make sure they go in perfectly and I don't
mess up. I've had quite a bit of practice lately, so it's just a matter of
taking it easy and not rushing it.

The Atlantis with the new configuration is handling very nicely. To be able
to carry my laptop easily, I put back the Platrack and bag, but to carry
the extra clothes I need now that it's cold in the morning but not so cold
in the evening, I may add the medium Saddlesack to the rear with the R14
rack once the fenders are installed.

So far, with the front rack both unloaded and lightly loaded with clothes,
there isn't a hint of shimmy on the trail sections where I pick up speed
and would get it before. I put back the original CK headset that is
supposed to be shimmy prone just to make sure that any differences
experienced weren't due to the needle bearing headset. Still early to make
any solid claims, just feeling happy with the bike's handling.

The one thing I've noticed is how well the bike now wants to turn. Tight
turns at some speed that used to make me tense and where I had a hard time
keeping the turn tight now seem to happen effortlessly and almost in
response to the thought to turn. Again, no side by side comparisons and not
enough time riding the bike, but feeling happy about it.

Another thing I've felt, is that the bike is now a pleasure to ride with my
hands further inwards on the Bullmoose bars. I seem to recall reading
somewhere in BQ that low trail bikes favored narrower bars whereas high
trail bikes favored wider bars. I think I'll go back to trying a set of
Rando bars just to see how they feel now. My issues with drop bars have to
do with hand/neck pain due to the reach, but I may still give them a try to
see if anything has changed.

Apologies for the long post... it's a slow day at work!

René

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Re: [RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[René Sterental]

That is exactly what I'm planning to do at some point... Use the nut on one
side and the bolt head on the other side so the Pitlock applies its force
on those two elements. Haven't gotten around to do it, as I rarely leave
the bike locked. Based on my new 2013 goals of just riding more, the
candidate for this experiment will be the Betty, which is what I'm planning
to ride around town on errands.

René


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have not seen a Pitlock seatpost skewer. Is it possible to slip a spacer
> or collar over the skewer? Basically cut the head off an M5 bolt and drill
> it out to turn it into a sleeve for the Pitlock to apply pressure to?
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
> On Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:04:32 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
> Cyclery wrote:
>>
>> Riv seatpost collars are counterbored on each end, one for the bolt head,
>> and the other for a hex nut, which is pretty and elegant and functional.
>> The pitlock ends do not fit into this counterbore. That is what I meant
>> when I said pitlock wasn't easily compatible with Riv seat collars. Sure,
>> you can run any bolt or, apparently, pitlock through that hole, and clamp
>> down on the area outside the counterbore, which is likely to scratch the
>> paint. I wouldn't do that, not so much because of the paint, but because it
>> seems like a bad idea to just smoosh down on the seat lug over that
>> counterbore.
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RE: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Yeah, what Bill said...

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:15 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike mods

Brewster wrote:

"I'm confused as to what had to go? Are you saying that a Bruce Gordon Rock n' 
Roads can't fit fenders and that you had to  sell it to get your mystery bike?"

What Pudge meant was that he had been running Bruce Gordon Rock n' Road tires 
on his Mystery bike.  But, the Mystery bike didn't have the clearances to run 
those tires with the fenders he wanted, so he did the tire swap to enable the 
fender install


On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:23:13 PM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:26:27 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
I decided it was silly to have a commuter bike without fenders, so much as I 
loved the Bruce Gordon Rock 'n' Roads, they had to go.
I'm confused as to what had to go? Are you saying that a Bruce Gordon Rock n' 
Roads can't fit fenders and that you had to  sell it to get your mystery bike?

I agree that in most cases, a commuter should have fenders. I'm lucky to have 
more than one bike and put fenders, albeit cheapy plastic Crud fenders, on one 
of my bikes to use when its wet outside. Otherwise, one lucky thing about 
living in my area is there are months when it doesn't rain and fenders are 
optional. Good Luck!



Here are a few pics of Mystery Bike v. 2.0, with brown Schwalbe Delta Cruisers 
and Longboards.  Cleaned up the wiring for the lights, another coat of shellac 
on bars and kickstand and twine over taillight wire on LOOONG rack stay, and 
we're ready to go.

New config:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/photostream

Cockpit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366650661/in/photostream

Improv fender installation, required by long chainstays and no chainstay bridge 
bolt hole for fender:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/photostream

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RE: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Rene, you won't regret this color - it's even better in person, and especially 
in the sun.

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of René Sterental
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:30 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

I was able to track down the original photo of the Atlantis in pewter that has 
me drooling over that color choice. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107210911/

You can see how lovely it is, and also how loverly the silver looks on the 
Bombadil... which one to choose? Still have a week or two to keep changing my 
mind before I take the Hunqapillar apart and take it to D&D...

René

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:27 PM, René Sterental 
mailto:orthie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think I made the mistake of attaching a large photo to my post as I got an 
email from the Mail Delivery Subsystem stating that my message was too large. I 
don't know if it was posted, so apologies for potentially sending a duplicate.

René

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Peter Morgano 
mailto:uscpeter11...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I do love silver, my preferred choice in cars back when I drove. I do love the 
purple playing off the silver. Anyone know the email address for Bruce at the 
Color Factory? He said he would be mailing me out a packet of info but he also 
mentioned something about an email with the color list he would send out, 
unfortunatly I got too wrapped up talking to remember it.
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:17 PM, René Sterental 
mailto:orthie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That silver Bombadil looks so beautiful...

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Kelly 
mailto:tkslee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On our Custom Bilenky tandem we told them painters choice.. I'm ok with it.. 
Dawn is kinda freaking out.

I need to send my Bombadil in for a repaint.. I've scratched it up pretty good 
which is ok.. but the bike rack that ravaged my seat tube decal is annoying the 
hell out of me.I'm thinking of going back to D&D for standard color repaint 
and decaling.. or is that just plain boring?

I do know I want something a little tougher and thought about powder coat but 
don't know

Dawn has custom colors on her Atlantis and Roadeo, all of mine are stock 
colors... hmmm stock colors are so easy and I know what they are going to look 
like.. :)  Sheesh now you have me in a mindless circle jerk of thoughts and to 
think I thought I had my mind made up.

Kelly


On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:38:19 PM UTC-6, Colin B. wrote:
I'm in that camp. If I were to get a custom, I'd ask the builder to
pick the color.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
mailto:thil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> When I ordered my custom frame from Curt Goodrich, I asked Curt to pick the
> color. He wasn't super comfortable with that idea.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 12:59:42 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
>>
>> Hahaha, I am the opposite, where I cant give anyone an accurate
>> description. I would honestly prefer they just do whatever they want and I
>> will love it, there is really no color that I don't like, outside of neons.
>> Understandably, most shops are not comfortable with that arrangement for
>> obvious reasons.  Oh the life of a chronically indecisive person, the frame
>> has been sitting next to my bed this long while I waxed and waned about
>> where to just send the damn thing.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>> mailto:thil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have no color advice, but I was reminded of a phone conversation I
>>> overheard years ago when I worked at another shop. A jaded mechanic was on
>>> the phone for a long time with an apparently neurotic customer, who was
>>> asking for a verbal description of a color of something or another... All I
>>> really remember was the mechanic doing a perfect deadpan as he said: "It's
>>> sorta halfway between asinine and muted puce."
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RE: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Peter, I'm not sure Bruce has an e-mail.  Phone is (609) 242-0665.

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

I do love silver, my preferred choice in cars back when I drove. I do love the 
purple playing off the silver. Anyone know the email address for Bruce at the 
Color Factory? He said he would be mailing me out a packet of info but he also 
mentioned something about an email with the color list he would send out, 
unfortunatly I got too wrapped up talking to remember it.
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:17 PM, René Sterental 
mailto:orthie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That silver Bombadil looks so beautiful...

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Kelly 
mailto:tkslee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On our Custom Bilenky tandem we told them painters choice.. I'm ok with it.. 
Dawn is kinda freaking out.

I need to send my Bombadil in for a repaint.. I've scratched it up pretty good 
which is ok.. but the bike rack that ravaged my seat tube decal is annoying the 
hell out of me.I'm thinking of going back to D&D for standard color repaint 
and decaling.. or is that just plain boring?

I do know I want something a little tougher and thought about powder coat but 
don't know

Dawn has custom colors on her Atlantis and Roadeo, all of mine are stock 
colors... hmmm stock colors are so easy and I know what they are going to look 
like.. :)  Sheesh now you have me in a mindless circle jerk of thoughts and to 
think I thought I had my mind made up.

Kelly


On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:38:19 PM UTC-6, Colin B. wrote:
I'm in that camp. If I were to get a custom, I'd ask the builder to
pick the color.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
mailto:thil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> When I ordered my custom frame from Curt Goodrich, I asked Curt to pick the
> color. He wasn't super comfortable with that idea.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 12:59:42 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
>>
>> Hahaha, I am the opposite, where I cant give anyone an accurate
>> description. I would honestly prefer they just do whatever they want and I
>> will love it, there is really no color that I don't like, outside of neons.
>> Understandably, most shops are not comfortable with that arrangement for
>> obvious reasons.  Oh the life of a chronically indecisive person, the frame
>> has been sitting next to my bed this long while I waxed and waned about
>> where to just send the damn thing.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>> mailto:thil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have no color advice, but I was reminded of a phone conversation I
>>> overheard years ago when I worked at another shop. A jaded mechanic was on
>>> the phone for a long time with an apparently neurotic customer, who was
>>> asking for a verbal description of a color of something or another... All I
>>> really remember was the mechanic doing a perfect deadpan as he said: "It's
>>> sorta halfway between asinine and muted puce."
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

I'm pretty sure I got this link for torx security head 
boltsoff this here Riv 
list a while back. 

--Smitty

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 9:02:30 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>
> Thinking about getting pitlocks for my seatpost and saddle (yes, they 
> actually have one that clamps onto the post at the saddle bolt, thus 
> blocking access to it). Noone can steal your seatpost *or* saddle, then.
>  
> I am more concerned about the pitlocks scratching the paint on the seat 
> tube collar.
> How has yours worked out?
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[RBW] WTT. 110 Nitto Technomic for 100 or 90

[Michael Williams]

hey group,   I have a 110mm Technomic 26.0   that I would like to trade for 
a 100 or 90 26.0 or 25.4.Thank you   -Mike

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis commute...

[Stephen S]

Pics are private Rene. We can't see them. 

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:32:48 PM UTC-8, René wrote:
>
> I started work this week and with my new 2013 goals, have started 
> commuting every other day to build up slowly. I commute from Palo Alto to 
> San Jose (California) and ride my bike from my house to Downtown Palo Alto 
> where I board the train to Downtown San Jose and then ride to work via the 
> newly paved Guadalupe River Trail. Currently it's about 15 minutes to ride 
> from my house (2.32 miles) and then 30 minutes on the GRT (5.2 miles) for a 
> total of aproximately 45 minutes each way.
>  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8368773624/
>  
> It's funny (actually sad) how out of shape one can get, but I feel pretty 
> tired at the end of the day when I've done this commute. Not dead tired, 
> but still feel it, particularly on my legs. 
>  
> Last week while I was still on vacation and it wasn't raining, I started 
> riding my Atlantis with its new low trail fork after taking a long time to 
> rebuild it. The original Berthoud fenders I was using on this bike needed 
> modifications (front) due to the new fork and misalignment of the hole that 
> held it to the front rack. So, I decided to get a new set of fenders and 
> found a pair of smooth 50mm Honjo fenders that I decided to try instead of 
> the Berthouds. These fenders have no holes drilled at all, so it's going to 
> be a long day of installation to make sure they go in perfectly and I don't 
> mess up. I've had quite a bit of practice lately, so it's just a matter of 
> taking it easy and not rushing it.
>  
> The Atlantis with the new configuration is handling very nicely. To be 
> able to carry my laptop easily, I put back the Platrack and bag, but to 
> carry the extra clothes I need now that it's cold in the morning but not so 
> cold in the evening, I may add the medium Saddlesack to the rear with the 
> R14 rack once the fenders are installed.
>  
> So far, with the front rack both unloaded and lightly loaded with clothes, 
> there isn't a hint of shimmy on the trail sections where I pick up speed 
> and would get it before. I put back the original CK headset that is 
> supposed to be shimmy prone just to make sure that any differences 
> experienced weren't due to the needle bearing headset. Still early to make 
> any solid claims, just feeling happy with the bike's handling.
>  
> The one thing I've noticed is how well the bike now wants to turn. Tight 
> turns at some speed that used to make me tense and where I had a hard time 
> keeping the turn tight now seem to happen effortlessly and almost in 
> response to the thought to turn. Again, no side by side comparisons and not 
> enough time riding the bike, but feeling happy about it.
>  
> Another thing I've felt, is that the bike is now a pleasure to ride with 
> my hands further inwards on the Bullmoose bars. I seem to recall reading 
> somewhere in BQ that low trail bikes favored narrower bars whereas high 
> trail bikes favored wider bars. I think I'll go back to trying a set of 
> Rando bars just to see how they feel now. My issues with drop bars have to 
> do with hand/neck pain due to the reach, but I may still give them a try to 
> see if anything has changed.
>  
> Apologies for the long post... it's a slow day at work!
>  
> René
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Re: [RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[Robert Harrison]

I took a few quick pics of a Pitlock seat tube lock on my Hunq. I've got the 
same on my Quickbeam. There may better way of putting this on, but it works and 
I haven't lost my saddle yet.  I also don't find it unattractive but, of 
course, tastes vary so if you hate it…good enough. :-)  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157632487313403/

 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157632487313403/)



Aloha,  

Bob



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On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote:

> I use Pitlocks on both my Quickbeam and Hunqapillar seat posts. While I may 
> lose a little paint I feel much more secure. I've had no trouble with the 
> installation.
>  
> Aloha!
>  
> Bob  
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>  
>  
> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
>  
> > Unless something has changed since I tried it a couple years ago, I don't 
> > believe there's a pitlock that's easily compatible with a Riv seatpost 
> > clamp.
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

[Garth]

I kinda giggle with this frame  a high-ish end frame made so minimalist 
you gotta do mods to it just to add fenders  lol.



> 99 bottles of beer on the wall  take one down and pass it around 
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

[El Sapo]

> I road that thing around the parking lot and it's unique in the way it 
> feels. Nothing MTN about it at all, smaller tubes, not very similar to the 
> beefy Bomba IMO. It has the diga-tube, but if you saw them side by 
> side.Not similar to any of the other Riv bikes. 

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[RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[El Sapo]

> I wish I hadn't seen those gold Riv decals on the bare metal frame. Now I 
> want those. 

 
 

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Re: [RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[René Sterental]

Ah, yes! Thanks for reminding me...

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> list a while back.
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Re: [RBW] WTT. 110 Nitto Technomic for 100 or 90

[Dan McNamara]

OK. Might have that too. Let me look around.

Dan


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> for a 100 or 90 26.0 or 25.4.Thank you   -Mike
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis commute...

[René Sterental]

>
> Sorry! It should be public now...



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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis commute...

[Robert Harrison]

I love it. But I also have a question. Do those bottle cages do a good job with 
the Klean Kanteens? I have a set of the bottles I almost never use because of 
the rattling around. On long rides I do use them but cover them in a sock which 
I wet down for that 'swamp cooler' effect.

Aloha,

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis commute...

[cyclotourist]

Unrequested reply: Yes, the King Iris cages work wonderfully for SS
bottles. No rattling at all.


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Robert Harrison wrote:

> I love it. But I also have a question. Do those bottle cages do a good job
> with the Klean Kanteens? I have a set of the bottles I almost never use
> because of the rattling around. On long rides I do use them but cover them
> in a sock which I wet down for that 'swamp cooler' effect.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Bob
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[RBW] Re: Luxos B dynamo light user review

[NickBull]

Hi, Toshi,

The main place where the Cyo is less adequate than I'd like is on a 40mph 
twisting mountainous descent in the dark.  On the straight parts it is 
fine.  But for the curves, I need to use a helmet light so that I can look 
"around" the corner to see where the road is going.

I had hoped that the wider beam of the Luxos would help with this, but 
based on your review it sounds like the wider beam is not bright enough to 
be all that useful in these circumstances.  Do you think that's correct?

Also, I don't understand what you mean by point 2 below.  I have my Cyo 
mounted with one of the Velo Orange brackets that is bolted to the side of 
my front rack.  The bracket is angled down and slightly forward and swoops 
underneath the Cyo.  From the photos I've seen of the Luxos, I can't see 
why it wouldn't attach the same way as the Cyo.  I can see that because the 
Luxos is wider at the bottom, I might need to bend the bracket so that it 
sticks out further from the rack.

Thanks for any comments,

Nick

On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:44:42 AM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:
>
> A couple of notes on the installation of the Luxos B dynamo light: 
>
> 1. The light is much bigger than the Cyo light. 
> 2. The bracket must angle upwards.  You can no longer mount the light 
> with the bracket angling downwards because the light cannot swivel to 
> the proper orientation. 
>
> Because I could not mount the light downwards, I needed to add a bunch 
> of washers/spacers to the front of my Mark's rack to have the light 
> clear my Acorn mini-rando bag. 
>
> --An immediate difference at start: gone is the dark spot in front of 
> the light. The light spits out a U of light with the bottom of the U 
> starting on the ground right in front of you, so you don't have to 
> worry about getting a nearfield light and losing out on distance. 
>
> The light output is quite ingenious--I think.  The way you align the 
> light is to have the light hit the ground about 30 feet in front of 
> you. What this does is put a big hotspot on the ground a little over a 
> lane wide in front of you. This gives you clear vision of any 
> obstacles in front of you, but there is still decent light within the 
> U which spreads out from the bike to the hotspot. In addition the 
> width of the light much wider than the Cyo--most of the 2 lane road. 
> Don't throw the hotspot into the horizon, put it on the ground--it 
> will improve the ride visibility immensely and you won't blind the 
> traffic. 
>
> The color of the light did not look too blue.  Without direct 
> comparison to the Cyo, it looked pretty similar to me. 
>
> The downside of the light could be that the only area that is as 
> bright as the Cyo is in that hotspot I mentioned earlier. The rest of 
> the illumination is less, so it is much easier to get distracted by 
> street lights.  If you do mostly city riding, then you probably don't 
> need or maybe wouldn't want this light. 
>
> For me, yes, I wish that whole area within the U was as bright as the 
> hotspot is, but for lighting what is most essential for safe and 
> enjoyable riding, the Luxos does a great job, and it is a big 
> improvement over the Cyo for me. 
>
> Toshi in Oakland, CA 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Luxos B dynamo light user review

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hi Nick,

There is no doubt that you can ride much faster with the Luxos and get
much better illumination in contrast with the Cyo.  However, I believe
it would be less than adequate on a 40 mph descent because although
the road may be illuminated, the hotspot will be off the road, and I
would not be able to see hazards adequately. On the other hand, it is
much better than going blind, which is what would happen with the Cyo.
 If you know the road is in good shape, then you could be ok...

The Luxos is not only bigger than the Cyo up and down but also front
to back.  If you mount the included bracket downwards, the back of the
Luxos hits the mount and you cannot rotate the light high enough to
orient the beam properly.  Perhaps the mounting point could have been
moved up on the bracket, but I didn't try. Also, as you mention,
perhaps if the mount is bent, then the rear of the light might be able
to orient up enough to mount properly.  Maybe the Velo Orange mount
would be fine...

Toshi


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:12 PM, NickBull  wrote:
> Hi, Toshi,
>
> The main place where the Cyo is less adequate than I'd like is on a 40mph
> twisting mountainous descent in the dark.  On the straight parts it is fine.
> But for the curves, I need to use a helmet light so that I can look "around"
> the corner to see where the road is going.
>
> I had hoped that the wider beam of the Luxos would help with this, but based
> on your review it sounds like the wider beam is not bright enough to be all
> that useful in these circumstances.  Do you think that's correct?
>
> Also, I don't understand what you mean by point 2 below.  I have my Cyo
> mounted with one of the Velo Orange brackets that is bolted to the side of
> my front rack.  The bracket is angled down and slightly forward and swoops
> underneath the Cyo.  From the photos I've seen of the Luxos, I can't see why
> it wouldn't attach the same way as the Cyo.  I can see that because the
> Luxos is wider at the bottom, I might need to bend the bracket so that it
> sticks out further from the rack.
>
> Thanks for any comments,
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:44:42 AM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:
>>
>> A couple of notes on the installation of the Luxos B dynamo light:
>>
>> 1. The light is much bigger than the Cyo light.
>> 2. The bracket must angle upwards.  You can no longer mount the light
>> with the bracket angling downwards because the light cannot swivel to
>> the proper orientation.
>>
>> Because I could not mount the light downwards, I needed to add a bunch
>> of washers/spacers to the front of my Mark's rack to have the light
>> clear my Acorn mini-rando bag.
>>
>> --An immediate difference at start: gone is the dark spot in front of
>> the light. The light spits out a U of light with the bottom of the U
>> starting on the ground right in front of you, so you don't have to
>> worry about getting a nearfield light and losing out on distance.
>>
>> The light output is quite ingenious--I think.  The way you align the
>> light is to have the light hit the ground about 30 feet in front of
>> you. What this does is put a big hotspot on the ground a little over a
>> lane wide in front of you. This gives you clear vision of any
>> obstacles in front of you, but there is still decent light within the
>> U which spreads out from the bike to the hotspot. In addition the
>> width of the light much wider than the Cyo--most of the 2 lane road.
>> Don't throw the hotspot into the horizon, put it on the ground--it
>> will improve the ride visibility immensely and you won't blind the
>> traffic.
>>
>> The color of the light did not look too blue.  Without direct
>> comparison to the Cyo, it looked pretty similar to me.
>>
>> The downside of the light could be that the only area that is as
>> bright as the Cyo is in that hotspot I mentioned earlier. The rest of
>> the illumination is less, so it is much easier to get distracted by
>> street lights.  If you do mostly city riding, then you probably don't
>> need or maybe wouldn't want this light.
>>
>> For me, yes, I wish that whole area within the U was as bright as the
>> hotspot is, but for lighting what is most essential for safe and
>> enjoyable riding, the Luxos does a great job, and it is a big
>> improvement over the Cyo for me.
>>
>> Toshi in Oakland, CA
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis commute...

[Manuel Acosta]

>
> Make sure you take time to ride the unbeaten path and go exploring. I've 
> found some of my coolest rides from my commute home. It also breaks up the 
> bordem sometimes.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis commute...

[Peter Morgano]

Oh you youngsters and your rambles. If I am home a few minutes late I have
a young lady who thinks I went to the zoo or toy store without her, haha.

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manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Make sure you take time to ride the unbeaten path and go exploring. I've
>> found some of my coolest rides from my commute home. It also breaks up the
>> bordem sometimes.
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[RBW] Re: Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[Michael]

>
> But, does a regular torx bit work on the torx head bolts?
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis commute...

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Rene,

Thank you for sharing your pictures.
That is an amazing collection of bikes and bags.
What a beautiful part of the world you live in!

Jay

On Jan 11, 5:39 am, Peter Morgano  wrote:
> Oh you youngsters and your rambles. If I am home a few minutes late I have
> a young lady who thinks I went to the zoo or toy store without her, haha.
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Manuel Acosta <
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Make sure you take time to ride the unbeaten path and go exploring. I've
> >> found some of my coolest rides from my commute home. It also breaks up the
> >> bordem sometimes.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Harlequin How-To

[Stonehog]

How does the last weekend look for folks?  It would probably be Sunday the 27th?

Brian Hanson

On Dec 30, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Rob  wrote:

> Excellent! Guess I better get the garage cleaned up! :) 
> 
> I'm going to bail on my downtube shifter experiment, and the shellac over 
> cork hasn't held up, so I'm ready for a change and I've been wanting to try a 
> harlequin wrap since I saw Brian's beautiful bike two years ago. I've got 
> cloth tape, and lots of amber shellac at the ready! (Seriously, I have 
> shellac to share with anyone who wants some--I'll send y'all home with a jar 
> full!) 
> 
> Pick a time Brian. I'm available pretty much any weekend day in January I 
> believe.
> 
> Rob in Seattle
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:20:47 PM UTC-8, Alex Moll wrote:
>> 
>> Great idea - I wouldn't miss that.
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:47:35 PM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm in :)
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Rob  wrote:
 A few times with motorcycle stuff (back when I rode) we'd have 
 get-togethers to do some specific thing that someone knew how to do, like 
 adjust the valves on an airhead BMW, or install an accessory power socket. 
 Everyone would bring their bikes and work on them together. We should do 
 that with harlequin wraps! I'll volunteer my garage if Brian will 
 demonstrate the mysterious technique. :)
 
 Rob in Seattle
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[RBW] Re: Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

No, they've got a little security pin thing in the middle. Not quite as 
much of a "unique key" as a pitlock, but definitely not something in the 
average tool box.

--Smitty

  

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:30:36 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
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> But, does a regular torx bit work on the torx head bolts?
>>
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