[RBW] Chicago shops

[Ken Karpowicz]

Any recommendations on Chicago area bike shops leaning less towards, or a good 
combination of, the mass market and more towards, maybe, fixed and 
single-speed, more Bobish and Rivish?

Thanks for any help.

Ken Karpowicz

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[RBW] Re: Chicago shops

[Matthew J]

Boulevard Bikes in Logan Square, Cicli Urbano in Humboldt Park, Roscoe 
Village Cycles on Roscoe in Roscoe Village and Blue City Cycles in 
Bridgeport.  All great stores with focus on what you are describe.
 
Boulevard Bikes, the oldest of the bunch, sold some of the last Herons.
On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 7:16:15 AM UTC-6, malarz wrote:

>
> Any recommendations on Chicago area bike shops leaning less towards, or a 
> good combination of, the mass market and more towards, maybe, fixed and 
> single-speed, more Bobish and Rivish? 
>
> Thanks for any help. 
>
> Ken Karpowicz 
>
> Sent from my iPad

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[RBW] Re: Lock question

[Matthew J]

> It is a bit heavy, but I think it's worth the weight.
 
The Abus are heavy, but IMO being able to store them on the down or seat 
tube bottle cage spot makes the weight very easy to manage while riding.  
The bike is a little heavier going up the stairs to my apartment though.

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[RBW] Re: An alternative to helmet safety?

[Matthew J]

> It's an airbag for your head ... Are not airbags explosive devices ?
 
The force needed to propel modern air bags is much less now than even a few 
years ago, let alone the 1980s when the technology was first evented.
 
I see this as a very good idea by some young people with minimal 
resources.  With luck a well established company picks up on it and makes 
improvements to what is already a good start. 


On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:59:43 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote:

> It's an airbag for your head ... Are not airbags explosive devices ? 
>
> As with all "safety" devices  "safety" is relative to the one defining 
> it.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Chicago shops

[Kevin Mulcahy]

Without going into too much detail... here's a northsider's perspective:

There's a couple amazing bike collections worth checking out on display at 
Cycle Smithy and Oscar Wastyn. Yojimbo's Garage is the premier track/fixie 
shop, with The Bike Lane a close second. Tati Cycles is an enigma I haven't 
quite figured out...

I'd say that Boulevard Bikes is the most Bobish, and is worth visiting if 
you want service done or to see more "obscure" retail objects things like 
honjo fenders, BQ magazine, berthoud bags, and Handsome Bikes. 

Kevin
In foggy Humboldt Park,
Chicago, IL

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[RBW] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-rodale/the-lance-armstrong-pile_b_2157995.html

[clyde canter]

Good read

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[RBW] Re: An alternative to helmet safety?

[C.J. Filip]

Looks like it would be hot in the summer.

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[RBW] Fwd: [BOB] lance news

[clyde canter]

Sorry if this posts twice.  Gmail confounds me sometimes.
Best,
Clyde

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-rodale/the-lance-armstrong-pile_b_2157995.html

good article

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[RBW] Re: An alternative to helmet safety?

[Matthew J]

As are helmets.  For warmer climes, they could be made in linen rather than 
cotton or wool.
On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:53:20 AM UTC-6, C.J. Filip wrote: 
>
> Looks like it would be hot in the summer. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: An alternative to helmet safety?

[Steve Palincsar]

On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 07:42 -0800, Matthew J wrote:
> As are helmets.  For warmer climes, they could be made in linen rather
> than cotton or wool.

Both my experience (living in the miasmatic swamps of Metro DC) and
dimly remembered research that showed heads are cooler with helets than
bare in the summer sun, contradict that statement.  Nobody here seems to
have any trouble with helmets in the summertime, and believe me we have
some serious summertime here.  Now the idea of wearing a big thick
collar around my neck in the summer -- ridiculous.  I don't care what
it's made of.


> On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:53:20 AM UTC-6, C.J. Filip wrote: 
> Looks like it would be hot in the summer. 


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Re: [RBW] Lock question

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Sorry to put words in your mouth/keyboard Joe! By "too precious to ride" I also 
include "too precious to lock up", since locking up a bike is part of riding 
it, at least for me. I have some fancy/expensive bikes, but I've never liked 
the feeling of having so much tied up in a bike that it could only be used 
under limited circumstances.

I have a hunch that our fancy Rivs and such are actually somewhat 
theft-resistant. The average theif knows a Trek is a good bike, but who the 
heck is A Homer Hilsen, and why is his name on his bike?! I've been in the bike 
biz about 8 years now, and local people tell me when their bikes have been 
stolen. Most bikes that get stolen are not expensive, but just in the wrong 
place at the wrong time, and most of the time they're not locked at all. 
Locking the bike in ANY fashion is MUCH more important than having a great 
lock. Closing the garage door when the bike is parked inside would prevent the 
vast majority of bike thefts.

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Re: [RBW] Lock question

[Peter Morgano]

Hmm, my choice of rides is only "limited" by common sense, here in NYC
people will steal anything that isnt nailed down and even then they will
try. I would rather use my around town bike for what it is used for, around
town 5 minute rides that really arent that "fun" and save my bombadil for
longer jaunts around town where I can actually enjoy myself. I know a lot
of you live in more suburban areas where the idea of doing errands is a bit
more relaxed and you can go places and lock up and not be worried about the
bike being gone when you come back but I worked as a Barista for many years
and would see bikes get stolen right in front of the store, and when you
call the cops they could care less.  Again, I envy you suburban guys, hope
to escape NYC one day, even though my wife loves it here for whatever
reason.

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
thill@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry to put words in your mouth/keyboard Joe! By "too precious to ride" I
> also include "too precious to lock up", since locking up a bike is part of
> riding it, at least for me. I have some fancy/expensive bikes, but I've
> never liked the feeling of having so much tied up in a bike that it could
> only be used under limited circumstances.
>
> I have a hunch that our fancy Rivs and such are actually somewhat
> theft-resistant. The average theif knows a Trek is a good bike, but who the
> heck is A Homer Hilsen, and why is his name on his bike?! I've been in the
> bike biz about 8 years now, and local people tell me when their bikes have
> been stolen. Most bikes that get stolen are not expensive, but just in the
> wrong place at the wrong time, and most of the time they're not locked at
> all. Locking the bike in ANY fashion is MUCH more important than having a
> great lock. Closing the garage door when the bike is parked inside would
> prevent the vast majority of bike thefts.
>
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Re: [RBW] Lock question

[Joe Bernard]

It's true that everyone's riding environment is different. I don't commute 
because my job is too far, and I use my car for it (transporting disabled 
people on outings, shopping, etc.). I don't tour, either. I go on "rides", 
and grab a different bike for shopping and such, so I'm able to separate 
bikes into riding categories that commuter/tourers can't do. 
 
Of course, all this goes out the window if I take the plunge and buy a 
Faraday next year. $4800 for an electric-assist commuter/shopping bike 
throws everything I've said out the window :)
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:08:14 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

> Hmm, my choice of rides is only "limited" by common sense, here in NYC 
> people will steal anything that isnt nailed down and even then they will 
> try. I would rather use my around town bike for what it is used for, around 
> town 5 minute rides that really arent that "fun" and save my bombadil for 
> longer jaunts around town where I can actually enjoy myself. I know a lot 
> of you live in more suburban areas where the idea of doing errands is a bit 
> more relaxed and you can go places and lock up and not be worried about the 
> bike being gone when you come back but I worked as a Barista for many years 
> and would see bikes get stolen right in front of the store, and when you 
> call the cops they could care less.  Again, I envy you suburban guys, hope 
> to escape NYC one day, even though my wife loves it here for whatever 
> reason. 
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
> thil...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Sorry to put words in your mouth/keyboard Joe! By "too precious to ride" 
>> I also include "too precious to lock up", since locking up a bike is part 
>> of riding it, at least for me. I have some fancy/expensive bikes, but I've 
>> never liked the feeling of having so much tied up in a bike that it could 
>> only be used under limited circumstances.
>>
>> I have a hunch that our fancy Rivs and such are actually somewhat 
>> theft-resistant. The average theif knows a Trek is a good bike, but who the 
>> heck is A Homer Hilsen, and why is his name on his bike?! I've been in the 
>> bike biz about 8 years now, and local people tell me when their bikes have 
>> been stolen. Most bikes that get stolen are not expensive, but just in the 
>> wrong place at the wrong time, and most of the time they're not locked at 
>> all. Locking the bike in ANY fashion is MUCH more important than having a 
>> great lock. Closing the garage door when the bike is parked inside would 
>> prevent the vast majority of bike thefts.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Lock question

[Kevin Mulcahy]

A bit of anecdotal data from the Chicago Stolen Bike Registry:

Out of the thousands of reported stolen bikes, the vast majority of the 
bike that were actually locked at the time of theft were "secured" using a 
cable lock. After that comes typical U-locks, incidents in which the thief 
cut the fence (or whatever) the bike was locked too, and bikes locked with 
heavy duty chains. IIRC, There has never been a report of a bike being 
stolen while locked with two separate U-locks. It's seems like you're 
better off with two $40 locks than one $80 lock. The double lock method is 
becoming more common in Chicago.

Yesterday, I went down to the local precinct after the police discovered a 
huge stash of stolen bicycles. I was hoping to find my Gunnar after hearing 
that most of the bikes were hybrids and mtbs. Almost all of the bikes were 
low quality hybrids...

Also, locking skewers won't keep your bike from being stolen. And, be sure 
to insure your bikes. 

Kevin
Chicago, IL

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[RBW] Re: Lock question

[Kevin Mulcahy]

I also hear that beausage is an effective anti-theft tool. Check out this 
Atlantis spotted in Chicago:




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[RBW] Re: 59 All Rounder FS in Portland

[iamkeith]

Well, Joe, I don't know whether to thank you or be mad at you but,
being as vocal as I have about wishing for a 26" wheeled Riv., I had
to buy it.  The price had come down by $250 and the $250 worth of
Nitto racks helped me rationalize it.  Gorgeous green paint, frame in
perfect condition, nice phil hubs.   It has some XTR V-brakes and
levers that are goofy on the bike, but I can use them on another.
Otherwise, a different bar, saddle and pedals (as is almost always the
case), and I'm good to go...  just as soon as the snow melts.  :-
(   And the BEST thing is that it turned out to be a 60 or 61cm
(measured riv-style, to the top of the seat tube), so it'll fit even
better than I thought it would.  I guess one of my lucky kids is
finally going to get my too-small 55cm XO-1.  So THEY thank you, even
if I don't!


On Nov 15, 12:30 am, Joe Broach  wrote:
> For Portlanders, Sellwood Cycles has a nice looking All Rounder (26"
> wheels) complete for $1900. No relation, interest, etc. just passing
> it along...
>
> http://sellwoodcycle.com/consign/59cm-rivendell-all-rounder-1950/
>
> Best,
> joe broach
> portland, or

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[RBW] Re: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-rodale/the-lance-armstrong-pile_b_2157995.html

[Jim Cloud]

This article was written by the chairman of Rondale Inc., publisher of
"Bicycling" magazine.  While I generally agree with her comments, I
think it's a bit disingenuous for the "Bicycling" magazine publisher
to join the pile-on.  "Bicycling" magazine was in the forefront of the
"fan boy" publications that glorified Lance when he was ascendant in
the Tour de France racing scene.

On Nov 21, 7:48 am, clyde canter  wrote:
> Good read

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Re: [RBW] Re: 59 All Rounder FS in Portland

[Joe Broach]

Excellent, Keith! Glad it found a good home. Also glad I didn't know
it was taller, given that I only live 5 blocks away...

Many happy miles,
joe broach
portland, or

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:12 AM, iamkeith  wrote:
> Well, Joe, I don't know whether to thank you or be mad at you but,
> being as vocal as I have about wishing for a 26" wheeled Riv., I had
> to buy it.  The price had come down by $250 and the $250 worth of
> Nitto racks helped me rationalize it.  Gorgeous green paint, frame in
> perfect condition, nice phil hubs.   It has some XTR V-brakes and
> levers that are goofy on the bike, but I can use them on another.
> Otherwise, a different bar, saddle and pedals (as is almost always the
> case), and I'm good to go...  just as soon as the snow melts.  :-
> (   And the BEST thing is that it turned out to be a 60 or 61cm
> (measured riv-style, to the top of the seat tube), so it'll fit even
> better than I thought it would.  I guess one of my lucky kids is
> finally going to get my too-small 55cm XO-1.  So THEY thank you, even
> if I don't!
>
>
> On Nov 15, 12:30 am, Joe Broach  wrote:
>> For Portlanders, Sellwood Cycles has a nice looking All Rounder (26"
>> wheels) complete for $1900. No relation, interest, etc. just passing
>> it along...
>>
>> http://sellwoodcycle.com/consign/59cm-rivendell-all-rounder-1950/
>>
>> Best,
>> joe broach
>> portland, or
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RE: [RBW] Re: Lock question

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Wow.  I wonder, what is the significance of the 7 of clubs in the front wheel?

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I also hear that beausage is an effective anti-theft tool. Check out this 
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[RBW] Re: An alternative to helmet safety?

[Jim Cloud]

> Now the idea of wearing a big thick
> collar around my neck in the summer -- ridiculous.  I don't care what
> it's made of.

Agreed.  No one in their right mind would wear something like that in
Tucson during the summer.

Jim Cloud

On Nov 21, 8:50 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 07:42 -0800, Matthew J wrote:
> > As are helmets.  For warmer climes, they could be made in linen rather
> > than cotton or wool.
>
> Both my experience (living in the miasmatic swamps of Metro DC) and
> dimly remembered research that showed heads are cooler with helets than
> bare in the summer sun, contradict that statement.  Nobody here seems to
> have any trouble with helmets in the summertime, and believe me we have
> some serious summertime here.  Now the idea of wearing a big thick
> collar around my neck in the summer -- ridiculous.  I don't care what
> it's made of.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:53:20 AM UTC-6, C.J. Filip wrote:
> >         Looks like it would be hot in the summer.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 59 All Rounder FS in Portland

[PATRICK MOORE]

Photos, please! And tell us how it compares in ride (not fit -- obviously
the bigger one will fit better from what you've said) with the XO-1. I
owned a 55 '92 and found my Rivs much an improvement.

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:12 AM, iamkeith  wrote:

> http://sellwoodcycle.com/consign/59cm-rivendell-all-rounder-1950/




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Re: [RBW] Re: An alternative to helmet safety?

[Matthew J]

Here in Chicago anyway, my head gets hotter wearing a helmet than not.
 
On the other hand, a towel soaked in cool water around my neck cools me 
down.  Certainly no reason someone could not put water on the collar.  

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[RBW] Re: An alternative to helmet safety?

[Matthew J]

> Agreed.  No one in their right mind would wear something like that in 
> Tucson during the summer. 


Never been to Tuscon, but I've seen people hiking the Grand Canyon with 
cloths soaked in water around their necks.

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[RBW] Wayne's World -- Ignore!

[PATRICK MOORE]

Some of you have gotten "messages" from me. Please ignore. It seems to
automatically link up different email addresses -- I get dozens myself. I
don't really know what it is, it doesn't interest me, and it goes directly
to my spam folder.


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Re: [RBW] Re: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-rodale/the-lance-armstrong-pile_b_2157995.html

[clyde canter]

I didn't really look at it that way.  I'm sure he indeed  sold a lot of
magazines for them.
I did like the article though.


On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Jim Cloud  wrote:

> This article was written by the chairman of Rondale Inc., publisher of
> "Bicycling" magazine.  While I generally agree with her comments, I
> think it's a bit disingenuous for the "Bicycling" magazine publisher
> to join the pile-on.  "Bicycling" magazine was in the forefront of the
> "fan boy" publications that glorified Lance when he was ascendant in
> the Tour de France racing scene.
>
> On Nov 21, 7:48 am, clyde canter  wrote:
> > Good read
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[RBW] Re: 59 All Rounder FS in Portland

[iamkeith]

I'll be sure to take some photos and offer my impressions, just as
soon as I get it in my greasy little hands!  Very excited.  The link
in Joe's original post will take you to some as-is shots in the
meantime.

On Nov 21, 10:34 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Photos, please! And tell us how it compares in ride (not fit -- obviously
> the bigger one will fit better from what you've said) with the XO-1. I
> owned a 55 '92 and found my Rivs much an improvement.
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:12 AM, iamkeith  wrote:
> >http://sellwoodcycle.com/consign/59cm-rivendell-all-rounder-1950/
>
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[RBW] Re: Wayne's World -- Ignore!

[Garth]

Well Patrick  it's comedically okay with me ... my name IS *Garth *after 
all !  

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Re: [RBW] FS: Riv Road 60cm

[AJ]

Frameset has sold.  Thank you for the interest.

Have a great Thanksgiving all!! -AJ

On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 1:33:12 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
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>  Pics appear to “private”
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *AJ
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:02 PM
> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* [RBW] FS: Riv Road 60cm
>
>  
>
> My last post seems to have never made it.
>
> A heavily used frameset that never saw its rejuvenation.  Too many 
> projects, time for this Joe Starck built, Joe Bell painted frame to find a 
> new home.
> Photos can be seen here.  This Riv could use a fresh paint job, however it 
> can be ridden as is.  No dents or cracks; a sound frame.
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/cldvhvg*
>
> TT is 59.5cm (center to center) and ST is 60cm (center to top), rear
> chainstays are about 435-440mm, dropouts are horizontal. It has very
> ornate lugs. Still looks really nice. Rivendell thinks the head angle is 
> 73.5 and the seat tube is 72. Should fit 32mm-35mm.
> The rear spacing is 130mm. 
>
> $500, plus shipping for the frame and fork.  Many thanks-AJ
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[RBW] Re: Chicago shops

[David Banzer]

Comrade Cycles in Ukrainian Village is a newer shop that fits the bill 
perfectly. Very nice fellows that are knowledgeable in touring/commuting.

On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 7:16:15 AM UTC-6, malarz wrote:
>
>
> Any recommendations on Chicago area bike shops leaning less towards, or a 
> good combination of, the mass market and more towards, maybe, fixed and 
> single-speed, more Bobish and Rivish? 
>
> Thanks for any help. 
>
> Ken Karpowicz 
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[RBW] Re: Twenty Bucks

[Chin]

The film is not about biking per se, but yes there is a bike in it. Two to 
be exact.

Hope you guys can come out to the screening. 

Support local filmmaking and your ticket gets you beer & wine - can't beat 
that!

Thanks Manny.

-Jesus

On Monday, November 19, 2012 7:24:00 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> So a couple months back I shared a short film about a S240 that I did with 
> a
> bunch of Rivendell guys that my buddy Jesus Beltran filmed.
> For those out of the loop here are some pictures that prove that I'm not 
> lying.
>
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjAEm6DY
>
> Also the amazing video Jesus did can be found here.
>
> http://vimeo.com/46103673
>
> Well Jesus just finished another short film call Twenty Bucks. 
> I have no idea if this is a bike related film. I don't know much about the 
> film is about. 
> I'm pretty sure there is a bike in there somewhere knowing Jesus. 
> He's planing a screening in San Francisco December 8 2012. 
> If your local and interested in checking out his screening look here.
> http://twentybucksfilm.eventbrite.com/
>
> Pre-ride maybe up to Twin Peak prior to the screening. Maybe a longer one 
>  earlier. 
>
> -Manny "Wait, is this about biking?" Acosta
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[RBW] Re: Lock question

[Lynne Fitz]

I've got a very pretty Bleriot.  It goes everywhere, and is often locked 
outside.  Kryptonite U-Lock with a Kryptonite thickish braided cable to get 
both wheels.
1) make it harder to steal than the ones it is parked next to.
2) of course, the Speedplay Frog pedals might be a bit of a deterrent :-)
3) strip off easily removable accessories - pump, lights that just clip on, 
etc.  My B&M IQ Fly stays on - pain to unbolt, and worthless without the 
wheel.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/6922577821/

On Sunday, November 18, 2012 2:37:44 PM UTC-8, Ned Ludd wrote:
>
> My wife has a lovely HH and is afraid to use it. She'll ride it in the 
> park, or out to the beach, but she won't use it for errands because she's 
> afraid to leave it locked in front of a store for 10 minutes. I think her 
> old CrypticNight lock is inadequate, but there must be something that is 
> useful out there (I hope.) She does not plan to lock it to the fence at 
> Dolores Park overnight, she just wants to be able to go to the bakery or 
> the grocery store and have the thing still be there when she comes out. Any 
> suggestions/thoughts?
> Thanks
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[RBW] WTB: Riv. Readers issues 5,6,12

[mikel66...@juno.com]

mike goldman
warwick,r.i.

Woman is 57 But Looks 27
Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors...
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/50ad47d02b59247d0244fst01duc

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[RBW] Re: Wayne's World -- Ignore!

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Party on Garth.

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> all !  
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[RBW] Re: Wayne's World -- Ignore!

[Garth]

hahahaahaha   

I'm feelin' Bohemian Rhapsody like  lol  .   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTheG--2NE0

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[RBW] Re: Lock question

[Ron MH]

A Kryptonite mini U lock through the rear wheel inside the rear triangle, 
Pitlock skewer-ed front wheel and Pitlocked Dyno light and I feel pretty safe 
and only had to carry a small lock. It isn't that hard. Except for those in 
NYC, why all the bike theft angst?

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1999 Rivendell Long Low 59 cm frameset (Starck-built, Bell-painted)

[IanA]

Hi Forrest,

Apologies for the direct contact, but I was going through the archives and 
found your post.  I wanted to ask you about tire clearances on your 
LongLow. I have just impulse bought a 97 double Joe (Stark/Bell) LongLow 
with the canti brake studs and also the option of side pulls. It seems to 
be the same size as yours (58.5 TT and 57 ST ctr to ctr).  

You mention you had Jack Browns on there (33.3mm wide) on yours. Mine is 
just the frame/headset/fork right now and I'm in the process of acquiring 
parts and I'm trying to figure out clearances for tires.  When you had the 
JB's on yours, did you also have fenders?  And what sort of room was there?

Thank you,
Ian
(Edmonton, AB, Canada).

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>
> Selling my 1999 Riv Long Low 59 cm frameset. Built by Joe Starck and 
> painted by Joe Bell. Comes with Chris King headset.
>
> Overall geometry similar to a Rambouillet (those came in 58 cm and 60 
> cm).  Standover with Jack Brown tires is right at 33 inches.
>
> In very good shape overall. A few minor chips in the paint. No serious 
> dings or dents.
>
> Some photos here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076072@N03/sets/72157627376098438/
>
> And more here:
> http://gallery.me.com/ftmeyer#100167
>
> Asking $1,175, which includes shipping (with professional packing) to 
> buyer in CONUSA -- or best offer.
>
> Email me with questions off-list. Thanks for looking.
>
> -- Forrest (Iowa City)
>
>
>
On Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:21:36 AM UTC-7, Forrest wrote:
>
> Selling my 1999 Riv Long Low 59 cm frameset. Built by Joe Starck and 
> painted by Joe Bell. Comes with Chris King headset.
>
> Overall geometry similar to a Rambouillet (those came in 58 cm and 60 
> cm).  Standover with Jack Brown tires is right at 33 inches.
>
> In very good shape overall. A few minor chips in the paint. No serious 
> dings or dents.
>
> Some photos here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076072@N03/sets/72157627376098438/
>
> And more here:
> http://gallery.me.com/ftmeyer#100167
>
> Asking $1,175, which includes shipping (with professional packing) to 
> buyer in CONUSA -- or best offer.
>
> Email me with questions off-list. Thanks for looking.
>
> -- Forrest (Iowa City)
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Options for making a Quickbeam a multi speed

[Michael Rivers]

http://flic.kr/p/6WjpJ4

Front and rear der with friction thumbies to make a three speed. Dos Eno in the 
back, and the original QB Sugino crank in the front.  I enjoyed doing a century 
with this transmission, but at the time I didn't have a bike with gears that 
was as comfortable. I never had to change a flat during the six months I rode 
this way, but that would have been a prolonged pitstop...  

I switched it to fixed with a new Phil hub rear wheel right after,  where it 
has stayed to this day. I rode the Cape Cod Bike Trail yesterday, and it is 
still my favorite bike to ride even though my stable has increased since then. 

Michael

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[RBW] Re: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-rodale/the-lance-armstrong-pile_b_2157995.html

[RJM]

Agree Jim, 
 
A bit hypocritical for the owner of Bicycling mag to be dissing the 
in-it-to-win-it culture. 
 

On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:16:09 AM UTC-6, Jim Cloud wrote:

> This article was written by the chairman of Rondale Inc., publisher of 
> "Bicycling" magazine.  While I generally agree with her comments, I 
> think it's a bit disingenuous for the "Bicycling" magazine publisher 
> to join the pile-on.  "Bicycling" magazine was in the forefront of the 
> "fan boy" publications that glorified Lance when he was ascendant in 
> the Tour de France racing scene. 
>
> On Nov 21, 7:48 am, clyde canter  wrote: 
> > Good read 
>

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[RBW] Riv rider in Canyon (Moraga, CA) today?

[Aaron Thomas]

I was trudging up a hill when another rider – looked like he might have 
been riding a Rivendell – crested from the other side and ding-ding belled 
me. Anyone on this list? The sun was in my eyes so I couldn't get a good 
look. 

Aaron

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[RBW] Re: [BOB] lance news

[numbnuts]

Hey All,
...as if cycling is the only sport in which this occurs...what a jokeI 
have very clear memories, both very recent and tens of years old, of both 
pro football and pro baseball players who are so 'roided' out that they can 
hardly function. And when it comes to egos, cyclists are merely also rans. 
So this was a crap read, IMO.

Regards,
Chris
Redding, Ca.

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[RBW] Re: Wayne's World -- Ignore!

[Joe Bernard]

Rockin' in the Pacer!

On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:51:44 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote:

>
> hahahaahaha   
>
> I'm feelin' Bohemian Rhapsody like  lol  .   
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTheG--2NE0
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wayne's World -- Ignore!

[Bertin753]

Patrick Moore, who is  culturally so clueless than he has no idea what you are 
talking about.

But if it's a party, I am in agreement (as long as we say grace beforehand)

Patrick Moore
iPhone

On Nov 21, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery  
wrote:

> Party on Garth.
> 
> On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:33:22 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>> 
>> Well Patrick  it's comedically okay with me ... my name IS Garth after 
>> all !  
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Re: [RBW] Re: 59 All Rounder FS in Portland

[Bertin753]

Thanks--will follow the link. Hpy Tksgvg!

Patrick Moore
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On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:10 AM, iamkeith  wrote:

> I'll be sure to take some photos and offer my impressions, just as
> soon as I get it in my greasy little hands!  Very excited.  The link
> in Joe's original post will take you to some as-is shots in the
> meantime.
> 
> On Nov 21, 10:34 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> Photos, please! And tell us how it compares in ride (not fit -- obviously
>> the bigger one will fit better from what you've said) with the XO-1. I
>> owned a 55 '92 and found my Rivs much an improvement.
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:12 AM, iamkeith  wrote:
>>> http://sellwoodcycle.com/consign/59cm-rivendell-all-rounder-1950/
>> 
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>> -
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>> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, 
>> ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html
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[RBW] Holiday Flyer

[Joe Bernard]

Here's a PDF of the Holiday Flyer from *eight years ago.* It's located in 
the latest pre-Thanksgiving Blug, and...*eight years ago.* I have one of 
these lying around somewhere, and I'm just a bit stunned that that much 
time has passed. There's some neat things in it, including a hatchet, and 
evidence that Meisha has been at Rivendell *at least eight years!* Enjoy. 
 
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5SdSLI1IkaaaFlKbkhBZThnUUk/edit?pli=1
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] SimpleOne Frameset Deal at RivBike

[Montclair BobbyB]

Someone needs to jump on this one... A 56cm S1 on sale at Riv...

This is a deal... 

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[RBW] Re: SimpleOne Frameset Deal at RivBike

[Joe Bernard]

Grant's Bosco prototype, too. A complete bike for $2900. I want it, but I 
think it's a litte too big for me. 
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:10:20 PM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

> Someone needs to jump on this one... A 56cm S1 on sale at Riv...
>
> This is a deal... 
>

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[RBW] Re: Holiday Flyer

[Joe K]

I have the print copy somewhere too.  Do you know why the prose is
sometimes a bit odd (though perfectly readable)?  No letter E is used
anywhere.  Must have taken a lot of thought (& edits)  to put
together.

Joe

On Nov 21, 10:54 pm, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> Here's a PDF of the Holiday Flyer from *eight years ago.* It's located in
> the latest pre-Thanksgiving Blug, and...*eight years ago.* I have one of
> these lying around somewhere, and I'm just a bit stunned that that much
> time has passed. There's some neat things in it, including a hatchet, and
> evidence that Meisha has been at Rivendell *at least eight years!* Enjoy.
>
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5SdSLI1IkaaaFlKbkhBZThnUUk/edit?pli=1
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Re: Holiday Flyer

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

That flyer pre-dates my Riv-awareness, but it's fun to read. Thanks for 
sharing. 
--Andy

On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 7:54:22 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's a PDF of the Holiday Flyer from *eight years ago.* It's located in 
> the latest pre-Thanksgiving Blug, and...*eight years ago.* I have one of 
> these lying around somewhere, and I'm just a bit stunned that that much 
> time has passed. There's some neat things in it, including a hatchet, and 
> evidence that Meisha has been at Rivendell *at least eight years!* Enjoy. 
>  
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5SdSLI1IkaaaFlKbkhBZThnUUk/edit?pli=1
>  
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>

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