Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.
Those '88 XT thumbies are the business! Mobile Brian Hanson On Aug 26, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Eric Platt wrote: > I've been using friction shifting with nine speed on one bike. With caveats, > it's upright bars and a ca. 1988 Shimano XT thumb shifter. With that shifter > 9 speeds doesn't seem to be an issue. It's a 12-36 paired with a 39t front > and using a regular Deore long cage derailleur. > > Have not had an problems since setting it up. Also don't seem to experience > ghost shifting, but maybe because I'm not that strong of a rider. > > Then again, as this is on a non-Rivendell bike, my observation is off topic > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Eric Daume wrote: > This dearth of 8 speed cassettes had me momentarily worried, until I saw it > wasn't so. For instance, here's a range of 12-21 thru 13-26: > > http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=12017&category=42 > > in addition to all the usual 11-something. > > Which is comforting, because 8 speed is the sweet spot for me. > > Eric Daume > Dublin, OH > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > The "commercial fate" of 7 speed is the chrome cassettes are now > unavailable, but the black ones are all still available. Not so pretty, > but functionally just as good. That's not the case with 8: in the past > 2 or 3 years virtually all the 8 speed combinations have gone. Only > 11-x are still in available, and for me 11 only makes sense if you have > a 20" wheel. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
"Comfort. Function. Fun." Sounds like an unofficial Riv motto. On Sunday, August 26, 2012 9:53:57 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: > > Here's mine: >> >> > * 2009:* Got a modern "10-speed". Compact frame, aluminum/composite > material, and spent the next two years trying to go as fast as possible. > Why? Because I liked going fast, and thought it would be good to be able to > keep up with others, if needed. As if... I wasn't a racer, and had no > intentions of racing. But for some reason every ride had to be a time trial > with me. > > This became very stressful, and riding wasn't fun anymore. I would > actually wake up in the morning feeling scared, because I knew I had a > lonely "training" ride ahead of me each day, and never knew what might > happen bad-wise (crash?, stranded?). > > *2011:* Didn't wanna ride anymore. It became a chore to be feared. Only > rode to escort my wife to work on her short commutes. Without her, I never > would got on the bike that year. I started to wonder if those massive tubes > on CF bikes were really any more aerodynamic that those thin tubed, steel > 10-speeds of old. I started, for some reason, to like the traditional > diamond frame with curved forks look better than modern road bikes. > > *2012:* March. Decided, that *this year, I was going to ride for fun only*. > Take it slow, and enjoy the beauty of God's creation, and abandon the > warped thinking I had in years prior about going fast. Suddenly, the > pressure was off, and riding was fun again. But this year, I started having > problems with my neck and shoulders - the bars seemed way too low on my > race bike. Soreness. Hard to look up and around while riding. > If I remember correctly, I wanted to know was anyone making frames with > that old "10-speed" look to them. So elegant, and I liked lugs, too. I got > to the RBW site, and everything they were talking about was right up my > alley with the riding I wanted to do. It just got better the more I read. > The high bars, the frame geometry. Everything designed for comfort and fun, > and function. I had to have one. But I couldn't swing new, so I got the > used Bleriot in July. Now I can cruise in comfort and look up and all > around with the high bars. I love commuting, and I am probably riding more > this year than any other - and having so much fun. > I hope to support RBW with a new bike purchase one day. I hope they keep > doing what they are doing. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/B2EffblzMUcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RAAM on a Rivendell.
...and for good reason. Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2012, at 12:26 AM, lungimsam wrote: > If I was young again, and an ultra-cyclist, I'd want to do RAAM on a > Rivendell. > > Maybe RBW would sponsor me with a special frame called the "RAAMbouillet" or > something, just so their frame could carve its way through the sea of carbon > fiber. High bars, longboard fenders, for the wet weather. I'd keep it light. > > My crew would be well stocked and they would have orders to hand out > complimentary neck braces, along the way, to all the cats with > low-handlebarred, carbon fiber frames. > > Just being silly. But I would really love to see someone on an RBW bike in > RAAM. That would be great. I bet RAAM hasn't seen lugged steel for 20 years. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mgpc1ktM3JcJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
Buying the book is also a nice way to support a guy who has done and continues to do some things that we benefit from. On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Manuel Acosta < manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Agreed the book is a good way of having a physical copy of grants writing. > Always a good read. Fits in a jersey pocket(pretty sure that was done on > purpose) so if you do like it you can give it out to the next cyclist you > see. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jGQD2RGIBfYJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DT shifter issues
Hey William, thanks so much for pointing out that a shorter bolt holding the shifter to the braze-on might take care of the slippage. I hadn't ridden my randonneuring bike since finishing the Cascade back in June. Yesterday before heading out to Larch Mtn I filed the bolt down put it back on my bike and headed out for a ride where I was able to enjoy standing up and riding in the big ring with the shifter slipping. --mike--who is looking forward to going back to DT shifters on his Hilsen. On Monday, July 2, 2012 11:22:42 AM UTC-7, William wrote: > > Mike > > This is a very common issue with several very simple fixes. I apologize > in advance for a long post > > As you know, there's a spring in the front derailer that wants to pull the > chain down to the small ring. The only thing stopping that from happening > is the friction in the shiftlever. If there's more static friction in the > shiftlever, it'll keep the front derailer in place. If the force in the > derailer spring is stronger, it'll win and pull the chain over. When you > pedal out of the saddle, the frame flexes some and makes the cable a little > tighter a little looser in phase with your pedalling. If the friction in > the lever is just barely strong enough to hold the derailer in place, this > part can make the derailer walk down to where it's constantly rubbing and > requires you to pull the shifter again to take up the slack. > > This problem is more common these days because modern front derailers have > ridiculously strong return springs because of all the mashers who insist on > being able to downshift to a smaller chainring while hammering out of the > saddle. Furthermore, the lever arm on the ft derailer linkage is much > shorter today than in older derailers, making the front derailer 'stronger' > because of an increased mechanical advantage. This 'enhancement' developed > to get brifters to work. So the fixes can include: > > 1. If you have a 'modern' front derailer, consider swapping it with an > older design. One with a lighter spring and/or longer lever arm > 2. Get more friction out of your friction shifter. If you tighten up the > d-ring all the way, you should no longer even be able to move your shifter > in the downshift direction. If you can't do that, then you aren't really > tightening the friction part of your shifter. You've merely bottomed out > on the bolt and you are tightening against that. You need a shorter bolt, > or a slightly thicker friction washer inside. > 3. Another modern front derailer 'enhancement' is a SUPER narrow cage. > One of the consequences of that is you have to have your limit screws set > really precisely, and you have to slam the derailer against the limit screw > when you are in the big ring and a smallish cog. In this situation, the > tug-of-war is no longer the front derailer spring against the shifter > friction. It's an immovable object (the limit screw) against the friction > in your shifter. The limit screw always wins, and you'll always be able to > get a tiny bit of slack in the cable. To check if this is what you are > experiencing, deliberately back off the upper limit screw a lot. Like a > full 360 degree rotation. You'll have to be careful not to overshift when > you go into the big ring. When in the big ring, see if you can make the > rubbing happen. You might not be able to. If you find that backing off > the limit screw 'solves' the problem, then you'll be left trying to find a > balance where there's a combination of limit screw setting + technique that > keeps you from overshifting and avoids this phenomenon. Another surprising > fix for this particular corner case is flexier shift cables. People forget > how springy shift cables used to be. These days, they are super stiff in > tension to make indexing work. A springier cable can take the stress > cycles associated with pedaling without moving the shifter. It's hard to > find springy shift cables, these days, though. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gm7no7HiN8UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:56:35 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote: > > Buying the book is also a nice way to support a guy who has done and > continues to do some things that we benefit from. > > Yep...thats why I mentioned purchasing two copies. I want it/Grant/RBW to do well and keep the good stuff coming. Maybe if I give a copy to someone not-in-the-know...they might enjoy the refreshing point of view to cycling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4h-dCGtfvdIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bosco or Albatross?
Boscos sure are visually a good fit on Mixte/Step Through bikes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/retrotec-inglis-cycles/7851282556/in/photostream On Sunday, August 26, 2012 10:28:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > Thanks, Thomas -- I can see that the stem is considerably raised with > the Albatrosses and that the Bosco's come back closer to the saddle. > Have seared the two images on my memory for tomorrow's investigation. > > Garth: No can do, alas, since it's her dime and I don't even want to > think of explaining why she ought to spend $130+ for two bars (inc > shipping). Me, I like drops and whatever else I try, always come back > to drops. > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean > > wrote: > > http://db.tt/2vi8YLQG - Bosco > > http://db.tt/wfV6ttGl - Albatross > > > > Yours, > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > who apologizes for his photographic phailure > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YPTQmX5WJPEJ. > > To post to this group, send email to > > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." >-- Claude Cockburn > > - > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > - > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EXqosrTIdwMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
*1984*: Bought a too-small Trek 620 touring bike. Rode it for 20 years, becoming increasingly annoyed with stiff neck and sore shoulders. *Mid-2000s:* Now in my 40s, I decided to do something about it. Added clamp-on aero bars sticking straight up like antlers. Absurd, but effective. But I couldn't reach the down tube shifters. Bought bar-end shifters and discovered that the Trek didn't have braze-ons for cable stops on the down tube. Googled "clamp-on cable stops" and voila! Riv was the only place selling them. I ordered them and started reading the Riv literature. It made sense to me. *2007: *After continually modifying the Trek with Riv-supplied parts (B17, Alba, Moustache, multiple stems, Rich-built 700C wheels, fenders, etc), I received permission to buy a Rivendell as a birthday present from my wife, so I ordered one of the last Rambouillets (a blue display model). Ten thousand miles later, it continues to be my favorite bike. (The Trek, with a stem raiser, trekking bars, fenders, racks, baskets, dynamo hub, lights, is my commuter and tourer.) On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:06:10 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: > > So how did you originally find out about them, and why/where/how did you > get your first Rivendell bike? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9UZjciFFZmAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
I am starting to think about buying my dream build which will be a A. Homer Hilsen. tentatively these are the components I would like. 650b wheel set built on Phil Wood hubs. Ultegra derailleurs and cassette cranks, undecided but not Shimano, they're ugly, Maybe White Industries double. White Industries pedals with Bruce Gordon half clips Nitto lugged quill stem, hand polished to mirror finish Nitto lugged seat post? Brooks saddle or a Specialzed Avatar which I have and like. The question is around which brakes to use. The long reach side pulls are probably adequate and are certainly cheaper but there is something about the high polished Paul Racers that look good on Rivendell's. My question to those who own the Paul's "Would you buy them again?" Of course we are talking about center post mounts as I am not going to go custom frame here. I have never been a fan of center pull brakes, the ones that I have tried all sucked but they haven't been as well built as the Paul's. I would like to hope they are great brakes and easy to set up because you can't beat side pulls for easy set up. So those who own Paul's or have used them, do you like them? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8Rf2KZbPp1oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
Back in the '90s Grant was a product manager for Bridgestone. I bought a red RB-1 when Bridgestone was going out of business in the US - still riding this with over 30,000 miles on it, and, amazingly, the original rear hub and spokes (the rim has been replaced 4 or 5 times). No broken spokes ever with that wheel. The RB-1 was my initial rando bike when I started riding brevets in 2005.The RB-1 is not fender-friendly so after the 2005 season, with PBP coming up, I had my sights set on a bike more suited to randonneuring. Peter White was closing out the Rambouillets, so I bought a frame and fork (blue) and built up a bike which I rode from 2006 to 2008 (including completing PBP and a fleche) until a car hit me (actually hit the bike) and totalled the frame. Later that year an orange Ramboulliet appeared on the BobishBikesFS list and Craiglist, and it was in Seattle in my sister-in-laws neighborhood, so I bought that and kept it there so I can ride it with SIR when I am out there. I made some upgrades and bike is one I can literally ride all day and night, the bike just disappears under me. it rides even better than the blue one. Must be the color. Speaking of orange - my most recent purchase was a Velo-Orange frame which I built up, and it rides as well as my Rambouillet. Eric Peterson Naperville, IL On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:06:10 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: > > So how did you originally find out about them, and why/where/how did you > get your first Rivendell bike? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/krtzjvINXtMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB - Quickbeam 56cm
I know it's a long shot but looking to buy an Orange Quickbeam 56cm. Already have an SO but wanted to have a lighter weight dedicated fixed gear. Please respond off list Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hvkE61wbzGgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] sackville shopsack
Any thoughts on the Sackville shopsack? Either medium size or large? I was considering using this as a grocery getter for my mini front rack (sans basket). Now, I use a "selle an atomica" tote bag. I crisscross the straps, loop them around my noodle handlebars, and the load is suprisingly stable. But the Selle Anatomica bag is almost played out, and they don't have more. I need a new shopping tote. No, I don't want a basket. Any thoughts on the strap length of the medium? the large? Would the straps be long enough to hook around drop bars? Is the large way too large? the medium big enough for grocery runs? Thanks. J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iNJBnAdjKdYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Large Saddlesack Support--Mark's in the Back or R-14 Top Rack?
I figure it's time to increase my carrying capacity, and I'm going Large. The R-14 is currently out of stock ,and so I'm looking at putting a Mark's rack in the rear. Does anyone have any advice for what combo works best? Will the large saddlesack be too squirrelly on the Mark's rack? Thanks! cc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/INHFwwgVGAIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivish Beater in NYC
Hudson Urban Bicycles (HUB Bikes) on Charles Street in the West Village downtown has a reasonable collection of used bicycles for sale. They specialize in city bikes and are probably the most Riv-ish shop in Manhattan. I can't speak to their prices. It's the West Village so prices are probably a bit higher than elsewhere, but the used bikes they sell there look to be in decent shape but still reasonably non-descript. http://hudsonurbanbicycles.com/info/ They have rentals too, but I'm not sure about tandems. Peter NYC On Saturday, August 25, 2012 12:51:31 AM UTC-4, Corwin wrote: > > Hi - > > This post is probably rather late to be effective in the near term - but > hopefully will eventually help achieve our final objective. > > Last spring, my daughter graduated from high school and was admitted to > Barnard College. Barnard is a small liberal arts college affiliated with > Columbia University. Naturally, she would like to make use of a bike to get > around New York City. Given that every bike in NYC parked outside for any > measurable period is stolen sooner or later, we are loathe to ship her nice > bike to NYC - just to have it disappear. The disappearance is all the more > likely given my daughter's habit of parking the bike outdoors in the > weather much of the time. > > Hence we would like to find a beater. I take it Craigslist is the usual > place one finds these kinds of things. Are there any other places in NYC > (or nearby) we might also find such a beater? Extra points if the beater > has Rivish accoutrements such as fenders and fattish tires. She would > probably be happier with something other than a fixie. > > As a side note, given that this is move-in weekend and we are in NYC - > does anyone have a good recommendation for a tandem rental in Manhattan? > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Corwin > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cPKCm9gK0hoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Baggins Boxy bag with Nitto F15 rack, more Baggins bags and miscellaneous parts coming soon
The rest of the photos are up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikesandtools/sets/72157631196902318/ The boxy bag, 28.6 XTR derailleur, and (maybe) the lugged stem are spoken for, everything else is up for grabs. thanks, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6ceK067VmSIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivish Beater in NYC
I would give a big thumbs up to getting one of those giant chains from kryptonite (one version is called the "New York"). She can leave it wrapped around where ever she plans to keep her bike at night and use a smaller U-Lock while traveling during the day. Only problem is the lock will probably cost as much as a "beater" bike. Also everything around here costs an arm and a leg. Maybe better finding a beater where you live and sending it to her? On Saturday, August 25, 2012 12:51:31 AM UTC-4, Corwin wrote: > > Hi - > > This post is probably rather late to be effective in the near term - but > hopefully will eventually help achieve our final objective. > > Last spring, my daughter graduated from high school and was admitted to > Barnard College. Barnard is a small liberal arts college affiliated with > Columbia University. Naturally, she would like to make use of a bike to get > around New York City. Given that every bike in NYC parked outside for any > measurable period is stolen sooner or later, we are loathe to ship her nice > bike to NYC - just to have it disappear. The disappearance is all the more > likely given my daughter's habit of parking the bike outdoors in the > weather much of the time. > > Hence we would like to find a beater. I take it Craigslist is the usual > place one finds these kinds of things. Are there any other places in NYC > (or nearby) we might also find such a beater? Extra points if the beater > has Rivish accoutrements such as fenders and fattish tires. She would > probably be happier with something other than a fixie. > > As a side note, given that this is move-in weekend and we are in NYC - > does anyone have a good recommendation for a tandem rental in Manhattan? > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Corwin > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qLA-23w-n1UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Randoneur bars. Have tyou used them?
I have a 42cm Nitto B135 that I picked up at a garage sale. I don't like it at all but that doesn't have to do with the design as much as the size. The 42cm spec is at the widest point of the flared drops. This means that the flats are extremely narrow and not at all suitable to me. I'd like to try other Rando bars but I need them much wider. Sean Eugene, OR On Friday, August 24, 2012 3:52:38 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: > > Was wondering how they feel different from regular drops. > > Looks like the drops are very wide, and the hoods are slanted compared to > a regular drop bar. > > 1. What is the reason for all the massive contours? > 2. Do you like yours? > 3. How do you size them for yourself - from the hooks, c-c, or the ends, > c-c? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-2SKs3xGB7UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:33 PM, blakcloud wrote: > I am starting to think about buying my dream build which will be a A. Homer > Hilsen. tentatively these are the components I would like. > > 650b wheel set built on Phil Wood hubs. > Ultegra derailleurs and cassette > cranks, undecided but not Shimano, they're ugly, Maybe White Industries > double. > White Industries pedals with Bruce Gordon half clips > Nitto lugged quill stem, hand polished to mirror finish > Nitto lugged seat post? > Brooks saddle or a Specialzed Avatar which I have and like. > > The question is around which brakes to use. The long reach side pulls are > probably adequate and are certainly cheaper but there is something about the > high polished Paul Racers that look good on Rivendell's. My question to > those who own the Paul's "Would you buy them again?" Of course we are > talking about center post mounts as I am not going to go custom frame here. > I have never been a fan of center pull brakes, the ones that I have tried > all sucked but they haven't been as well built as the Paul's. > > I would like to hope they are great brakes and easy to set up because you > can't beat side pulls for easy set up. So those who own Paul's or have used > them, do you like them? > I have one of each. The rom has the sidepulls, the ahh has the paul center pulls and I really rather like them. They setup pretty easily and they have GREAT stopping power. Having said that - the sidepulls stop well, too. :) I don't think you'll have trouble with either. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
I have hi polish Racers (center post mount) on my Hilsen, and love the look AND the stopping power. Here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7691777296/in/set-72157627914355388 They're great. And I really like the folks at Paul Components. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Seth Vidal Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:19 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:33 PM, blakcloud wrote: > I am starting to think about buying my dream build which will be a A. > Homer Hilsen. tentatively these are the components I would like. > > 650b wheel set built on Phil Wood hubs. > Ultegra derailleurs and cassette > cranks, undecided but not Shimano, they're ugly, Maybe White > Industries double. > White Industries pedals with Bruce Gordon half clips Nitto lugged > quill stem, hand polished to mirror finish Nitto lugged seat post? > Brooks saddle or a Specialzed Avatar which I have and like. > > The question is around which brakes to use. The long reach side pulls > are probably adequate and are certainly cheaper but there is something > about the high polished Paul Racers that look good on Rivendell's. My > question to those who own the Paul's "Would you buy them again?" Of > course we are talking about center post mounts as I am not going to go custom > frame here. > I have never been a fan of center pull brakes, the ones that I have > tried all sucked but they haven't been as well built as the Paul's. > > I would like to hope they are great brakes and easy to set up because > you can't beat side pulls for easy set up. So those who own Paul's or > have used them, do you like them? > I have one of each. The rom has the sidepulls, the ahh has the paul center pulls and I really rather like them. They setup pretty easily and they have GREAT stopping power. Having said that - the sidepulls stop well, too. :) I don't think you'll have trouble with either. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bosco or Albatross?
I don't remember if you said how tall your friend is, but consider width when buying the bars. My wife and daughter are about 5'4", and they prefer the Dove to the Albatross. jim m wc ca On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:28 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Thanks, Thomas -- I can see that the stem is considerably raised with > the Albatrosses and that the Bosco's come back closer to the saddle. > Have seared the two images on my memory for tomorrow's investigation. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
On Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:33:49 PM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: > > I would like to hope they are great brakes and easy to set up because you > can't beat side pulls for easy set up. So those who own Paul's or have used > them, do you like them? > I have the braze-on version of the Paul racers. Best brakes I've used, although I'm not a huge fan of how they look. You might inquire about any differences between the braze-on vs. center-mount version - I haven't seen much chatter about that although conventional wisdom probably says that the braze-on version are a little more powerful. Either way, I think side-pulls are plenty good too, look better and are easier to set up. can't go wrong. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/00KXfx0fE24J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
+1 for the comment that the people at Paul are super nice. On Monday, August 27, 2012 8:22:27 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: > > I have hi polish Racers (center post mount) on my Hilsen, and love the > look AND the stopping power. Here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7691777296/in/set-72157627914355388 > > They're great. And I really like the folks at Paul Components. > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Seth Vidal > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:19 AM > To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:33 PM, blakcloud > > wrote: > > I am starting to think about buying my dream build which will be a A. > > Homer Hilsen. tentatively these are the components I would like. > > > > 650b wheel set built on Phil Wood hubs. > > Ultegra derailleurs and cassette > > cranks, undecided but not Shimano, they're ugly, Maybe White > > Industries double. > > White Industries pedals with Bruce Gordon half clips Nitto lugged > > quill stem, hand polished to mirror finish Nitto lugged seat post? > > Brooks saddle or a Specialzed Avatar which I have and like. > > > > The question is around which brakes to use. The long reach side pulls > > are probably adequate and are certainly cheaper but there is something > > about the high polished Paul Racers that look good on Rivendell's. My > > question to those who own the Paul's "Would you buy them again?" Of > > course we are talking about center post mounts as I am not going to go > custom frame here. > > I have never been a fan of center pull brakes, the ones that I have > > tried all sucked but they haven't been as well built as the Paul's. > > > > I would like to hope they are great brakes and easy to set up because > > you can't beat side pulls for easy set up. So those who own Paul's or > > have used them, do you like them? > > > > I have one of each. The rom has the sidepulls, the ahh has the paul center > pulls and I really rather like them. > > They setup pretty easily and they have GREAT stopping power. > > Having said that - the sidepulls stop well, too. :) > > I don't think you'll have trouble with either. > > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > > > > To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you > that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice > contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under > the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions > or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any > tax-related matters addressed herein. > > > > This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. > If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) > 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any > email) and any printout thereof. > > Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their > professional qualifications will be provided upon request. > > == > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fasU86jRxdoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
I've got post-mounted Paul Racers on my custom which is nearly two years old. They're got great stopping power. I'd definitely buy them again. But like the MAFAC Racers they're based on, I've found they can get a bit squealy and need toeing in from time to time. Minor problem. One thing I wish I could change: wheel size. Wish I'd gone 650B. Then I'd be running Grand Bois Hetres. As far as cranks, I've got 2006 Campy triples on my Rivendell and my Heron, 50/40/30. My next bike I'll probably spring for a Rene Herse double 46/30. I've also got the lugged quill stem and absolutely love it. I found the lugged post (the wayback) gave me more setback than I needed on my custom, but I ended up putting it on my Hetchins to slacken the 73 degree seat tube. I bought those White Industry pedals and they are gorgeous, but I haven't used them as my randonneuring miles are all "clipped in." You're on your way to a beautiful ride! Jeff On Sunday, August 26, 2012 4:33:49 PM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote: > > I am starting to think about buying my dream build which will be a A. > Homer Hilsen. tentatively these are the components I would like. > > 650b wheel set built on Phil Wood hubs. > Ultegra derailleurs and cassette > cranks, undecided but not Shimano, they're ugly, Maybe White Industries > double. > White Industries pedals with Bruce Gordon half clips > Nitto lugged quill stem, hand polished to mirror finish > Nitto lugged seat post? > Brooks saddle or a Specialzed Avatar which I have and like. > > The question is around which brakes to use. The long reach side pulls are > probably adequate and are certainly cheaper but there is something about > the high polished Paul Racers that look good on Rivendell's. My question to > those who own the Paul's "Would you buy them again?" Of course we are > talking about center post mounts as I am not going to go custom frame here. > I have never been a fan of center pull brakes, the ones that I have tried > all sucked but they haven't been as well built as the Paul's. > > I would like to hope they are great brakes and easy to set up because you > can't beat side pulls for easy set up. So those who own Paul's or have used > them, do you like them? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-krmsp9pWo8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DT shifter issues
Glad to hear you got rid of the slippage, Mike. On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:21:35 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote: > > Hey William, thanks so much for pointing out that a shorter bolt holding > the shifter to the braze-on might take care of the slippage. I hadn't > ridden my randonneuring bike since finishing the Cascade back in June. > Yesterday before heading out to Larch Mtn I filed the bolt down put it back > on my bike and headed out for a ride where I was able to enjoy standing up > and riding in the big ring with the shifter slipping. > > --mike--who is looking forward to going back to DT shifters on his Hilsen. > > On Monday, July 2, 2012 11:22:42 AM UTC-7, William wrote: >> >> Mike >> >> This is a very common issue with several very simple fixes. I apologize >> in advance for a long post >> >> As you know, there's a spring in the front derailer that wants to pull >> the chain down to the small ring. The only thing stopping that from >> happening is the friction in the shiftlever. If there's more static >> friction in the shiftlever, it'll keep the front derailer in place. If the >> force in the derailer spring is stronger, it'll win and pull the chain >> over. When you pedal out of the saddle, the frame flexes some and makes >> the cable a little tighter a little looser in phase with your pedalling. If >> the friction in the lever is just barely strong enough to hold the derailer >> in place, this part can make the derailer walk down to where it's >> constantly rubbing and requires you to pull the shifter again to take up >> the slack. >> >> This problem is more common these days because modern front derailers >> have ridiculously strong return springs because of all the mashers who >> insist on being able to downshift to a smaller chainring while hammering >> out of the saddle. Furthermore, the lever arm on the ft derailer linkage >> is much shorter today than in older derailers, making the front derailer >> 'stronger' because of an increased mechanical advantage. This >> 'enhancement' developed to get brifters to work. So the fixes can include: >> >> 1. If you have a 'modern' front derailer, consider swapping it with an >> older design. One with a lighter spring and/or longer lever arm >> 2. Get more friction out of your friction shifter. If you tighten up >> the d-ring all the way, you should no longer even be able to move your >> shifter in the downshift direction. If you can't do that, then you aren't >> really tightening the friction part of your shifter. You've merely >> bottomed out on the bolt and you are tightening against that. You need a >> shorter bolt, or a slightly thicker friction washer inside. >> 3. Another modern front derailer 'enhancement' is a SUPER narrow cage. >> One of the consequences of that is you have to have your limit screws set >> really precisely, and you have to slam the derailer against the limit screw >> when you are in the big ring and a smallish cog. In this situation, the >> tug-of-war is no longer the front derailer spring against the shifter >> friction. It's an immovable object (the limit screw) against the friction >> in your shifter. The limit screw always wins, and you'll always be able to >> get a tiny bit of slack in the cable. To check if this is what you are >> experiencing, deliberately back off the upper limit screw a lot. Like a >> full 360 degree rotation. You'll have to be careful not to overshift when >> you go into the big ring. When in the big ring, see if you can make the >> rubbing happen. You might not be able to. If you find that backing off >> the limit screw 'solves' the problem, then you'll be left trying to find a >> balance where there's a combination of limit screw setting + technique that >> keeps you from overshifting and avoids this phenomenon. Another surprising >> fix for this particular corner case is flexier shift cables. People forget >> how springy shift cables used to be. These days, they are super stiff in >> tension to make indexing work. A springier cable can take the stress >> cycles associated with pedaling without moving the shifter. It's hard to >> find springy shift cables, these days, though. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cDAN__mnmuwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RAAM on a Rivendell.
While I have no intention of ever riding RAAM, I'm proud to say that I RAAM-qualified on a racked and fendered Rivendell last year and I'm gong to do it again next month at the Texas Time Trials. http://www.tt24tt.com/ Of course covering 500 miles in 48 hours or less (that's the qualifer) is a world away from doing RAAM. I'd suggest PBP in 2015. Lots of Rivendells over there and plenty of older folks! The best 87 hours and 10 minutes of my life. Jeff On Monday, August 27, 2012 5:31:47 AM UTC-5, z-man wrote: > > ...and for good reason. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 27, 2012, at 12:26 AM, lungimsam > > wrote: > > If I was young again, and an ultra-cyclist, I'd want to do RAAM on a > Rivendell. > > Maybe RBW would sponsor me with a special frame called the "RAAMbouillet" > or something, just so their frame could carve its way through the sea of > carbon fiber. High bars, longboard fenders, for the wet weather. I'd keep > it light. > > My crew would be well stocked and they would have orders to hand out > complimentary neck braces, along the way, to all the cats with > low-handlebarred, carbon fiber frames. > > Just being silly. But I would really love to see someone on an RBW bike in > RAAM. That would be great. I bet RAAM hasn't seen lugged steel for 20 years. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mgpc1ktM3JcJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NB99Jlkj7OAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
Or maybe they'll just think you're crazy, jinxed. :-) I've been dropping Riv-ish tid bits on my bike-commuting bro-in-law for a couple years. He's even ridden my AHH and a friend's loaner Riv-ish Schwinn High Sierra. He seems responsive in conversation and had nothing but high praise for Homer and the Schwinn, but in the end his first criteria remains that a bike has to be sub-18lbs. He talks about getting a more comfortable bike with all the Riv-ish tid bits and fit but he can't bring himself to buy a "heavy" bike. --Andy On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:34:49 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: > > On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:56:35 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote: >> >> Buying the book is also a nice way to support a guy who has done and >> continues to do some things that we benefit from. >> >> > Yep...thats why I mentioned purchasing two copies. I want it/Grant/RBW to > do well and keep the good stuff coming. Maybe if I give a copy to someone > not-in-the-know...they might enjoy the refreshing point of view to cycling. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M7B6Y50IL-wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Large Saddlesack Support--Mark's in the Back or R-14 Top Rack?
I don't think that Mark's vs R-14 will make a difference as a saddlesack support. If you ever want to put a large trunksack or a large basket in the rear then you want the R-14. Dan Marin On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Christopher Chen wrote: > I figure it's time to increase my carrying capacity, and I'm going Large. > > The R-14 is currently out of stock ,and so I'm looking at putting a Mark's > rack in the rear. Does anyone have any advice for what combo works best? Will > the large saddlesack be too squirrelly on the Mark's rack? > > Thanks! > > cc > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/INHFwwgVGAIJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Large Saddlesack Support--Mark's in the Back or R-14 Top Rack?
There's a slot cut in the leather bottom of the Large Saddlesack. That slot is the right depth and width to fit the R-14 tombstone perfectly. The tombstone on the Mark's rack is a lot narrower and a bit taller. It'll work, but it's just not perfect. The Mark's rack is fantastic, and if you own one you'll find a number of things to use it for. The R-14 is the 'more correct' choice for a Saddlesack Large. Get a Mark's now and get an R-14 later! :) On Saturday, August 25, 2012 12:18:29 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: > > I figure it's time to increase my carrying capacity, and I'm going Large. > > The R-14 is currently out of stock ,and so I'm looking at putting a Mark's > rack in the rear. Does anyone have any advice for what combo works best? > Will the large saddlesack be too squirrelly on the Mark's rack? > > Thanks! > > cc > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ezKR8gB8CB8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lance Armstrong Stripped of Tour de France Titles
On Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:47:22 PM UTC-7, Jim Cloud wrote: > > Just picked this up from internet traffic: > > > http://news.yahoo.com/lance-armstrong-stripped-tour-france-titles-internet-shock-233032763.html > > > Jim Cloud > Tucson, AZ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aMTZf66KjUMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
I don't think you can polish a Nitto lugged quill stem to a mirror chrome finish, can you? It is "dull-bright" nickel plated cro-mo steel. David G in SF On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:33 PM, blakcloud wrote: > I am starting to think about buying my dream build which will be a A. > Homer Hilsen. tentatively these are the components I would like. > > 650b wheel set built on Phil Wood hubs. > Ultegra derailleurs and cassette > cranks, undecided but not Shimano, they're ugly, Maybe White Industries > double. > White Industries pedals with Bruce Gordon half clips > Nitto lugged quill stem, hand polished to mirror finish > Nitto lugged seat post? > Brooks saddle or a Specialzed Avatar which I have and like. > > The question is around which brakes to use. The long reach side pulls are > probably adequate and are certainly cheaper but there is something about > the high polished Paul Racers that look good on Rivendell's. My question to > those who own the Paul's "Would you buy them again?" Of course we are > talking about center post mounts as I am not going to go custom frame here. > I have never been a fan of center pull brakes, the ones that I have tried > all sucked but they haven't been as well built as the Paul's. > > I would like to hope they are great brakes and easy to set up because you > can't beat side pulls for easy set up. So those who own Paul's or have used > them, do you like them? > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How Saluki got its name, and is that a real dog on the badge?
Marty, I should be able to get you a hi res photo of the first Saluki headbadge (can provide the pewter and bronze too if you need). So, since Jim pointed out my Saluki above (thanks for the compliments Jim), and since the question was asked... The Saluki on the Saluki headbadge is my dear Saluki. Her name is Esprit (we also have her niece Elan) and I've had her since she was a pup - nearly 12 years now. Her full name is Celeres Belle Esprit. Jon Grant and I did the graphics package for the Salukis. In a previous post on the Rivendell graphics I mentioned I was VERY biased in choosing the Saluki graphics as my favorites. Now you know why. John On Aug 24, 5:02 pm, Marty wrote: > > If anyone here has a nice hi-res full frontal headshot of that first > > badge, let me know. It's one of the few I have not added to the poster > > collection. Also need the very first cast pewter Rivendell badge. As soon > > as the new-bike badge is revealed I'll be updating the poster, and might > > was well add Saluki #1 to the series. > > Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Idea for real RivCustom head badges. What would yours be?
For the frameset I made I had Jen Green make a sterling silver headbadge to my design. Cost back then was $150. Not sure what she charges now but she does GREAT work - I'd HIGHLY recommend her. On Aug 24, 12:44 pm, Philip Williamson wrote: > Ouch. Let me know before you critique the writings of that Bike Tinker guy. > > Philipwww.biketinker.com > > > > On Friday, August 24, 2012 3:44:06 AM UTC-7, z-man wrote: > > > It figures Kostman would do this. His "Classic Cyclist" articles were > > laughable in their smugness, and head-swelling ego attitude. I kept waiting > > for the section where he would say the classic cyclist has "just the right > > haircut" as part of looking just right. > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:29 PM, James Warren > > > > > wrote: > > > Chris Kostman does this. His Roadeo at the bottom of the page has one of > > his own custom headbadges that are also shown at this page sort of near the > > bottom. Check it out: > > >http://www.xo-1.org/search?updated-min=2010-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&upda... > > > -Original Message- > > From: lungimsam > > Sent: Aug 23, 2012 9:57 AM > > To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [RBW] Idea for real RivCustom head badges. What would yours be? > > > You get a Riv Custom - you get a head badge with pic of a loved-one or pet > > on it. > > Move the regular badge to the seat tube - no label, just badge. It is a > > Custom, after all. And that would class it up. > > > Have "Rivendell _Name of loved one/pet__" on the seat tube. > > > What would yours be? > > > Freddie Hoffman could get a "Ruthie" model, with his Mom's pic on the > > badge. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AopGyqPeHPcJ. > > To post to this group, send email to > > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > > . > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > > . > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
> > I have Paul Racers. > > I am not a bike mechanic, and I don't know how tricky side-pulls are, but > for me, there are too many adjustment options on the Racers, and I have a > tendency to just keep throwing things out of adjustment the more I mess > with the brakes. > > 1. You can adjust them by centering them and then tightening the brake bolt. 2. You can adjust the way the straddle cable hanger sits, which moves the calipers when you do that. 3. You can adjust the spring tension of each arm. 4. You can adjust the pads. They can be tricky for a novice to get aligned correctly, based on my experience, which is non with brakes, except these. I am under the impression that side pulls are easier, but don't know that for a fact. The people at Paiul seem to be friendly. I think they should have a better explanation on the instructions on how to adjust their brakes, and use the spring tension adjustment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Nn5HR9otNfEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lance Armstrong Stripped of Tour de France Titles
I really like V-brakes on my Atlantis, with over 800 touring miles this summer, after using Tektro 720 cantis for a few years. The ultimate stopping power is comparable BUT the Vs requiring far less force at the lever. On long downhills, the cantis leave my forearms numb, especially with a load. The only fussy bit about the Vs is the pad/rim clearance but it's no big deal. Based on the title, I almost skipped this thread. Thankfully we'll always have brakes to discuss...and 2TT...and luggage...and racks... dougP On Aug 25, 12:11 am, Tom Harrop wrote: > I'm with you Brewster, I just switched from cantis to Vs and I'm never > going back! All with the stock Shimano pads that came with the V-brakes, > too. My problems were most likely caused by my inability to set the cantis > up properly, but the squeal and shudder is gone and I have 100× better > stopping power. NB this is on a 68 cm Bombadil so the enormous head tube > could also have been part of the problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Large Saddlesack Support--Mark's in the Back or R-14 Top Rack?
What about an R-15 as a third option? Those seem pretty great for the money. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cAouy6DfnhIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Randoneur bars. Have tyou used them?
I have a set on my Road Std and like them. You can lean straight down and clear the tops because of the flare. I have DT shifters on this bike. Don't know if the flare will affect someone who uses bar ends. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Hoffsta wrote: > I have a 42cm Nitto B135 that I picked up at a garage sale. I don't like > it at all but that doesn't have to do with the design as much as the size. > The 42cm spec is at the widest point of the flared drops. This means that > the flats are extremely narrow and not at all suitable to me. I'd like to > try other Rando bars but I need them much wider. > > Sean > Eugene, OR > > On Friday, August 24, 2012 3:52:38 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: >> >> Was wondering how they feel different from regular drops. >> >> Looks like the drops are very wide, and the hoods are slanted compared to >> a regular drop bar. >> >> 1. What is the reason for all the massive contours? >> 2. Do you like yours? >> 3. How do you size them for yourself - from the hooks, c-c, or the ends, >> c-c? >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-2SKs3xGB7UJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
Having both Phil Woof and White Industries hubs, both with Velocity wheels, I recommend the White Industries. They seem freer rolling to me. Both look good. On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:33 PM, blakcloud wrote: > I am starting to think about buying my dream build which will be a A. > Homer Hilsen. tentatively these are the components I would like. > > 650b wheel set built on Phil Wood hubs. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Large Saddlesack Support--Mark's in the Back or R-14 Top Rack?
+1 for the R-15. I'd be somewhat concerned about squirreliness with the Mark's/SaddleSack-Large combo if the SS-L is heavily loaded. It's worth a try, though, I've used the SS-L with a Mark's&Platrack combo and it is of course super stable. But most of the time I've used the SS-L with my R-15. Even really heavily loaded it has posed no issues for me. With normal loads I don't even anchor the bottom. The "tombstone" and top straps are enough. With a heavy and uneven or unstable load I anchor the rear two lash slots (rear of the bike). The R-15 is a great rack! Also great with the TourSacks. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ENapoisCliwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Large Saddlesack Support--Mark's in the Back or R-14 Top Rack?
R-15 URL http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=146_240&products_id=671 FYI, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/El3bRXpFuH8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] sackville shopsack
ShopSack is not designed to be used without a basket. Personally I can't see how to make it work satisfactorily without one. With the corresponding Wald basket: The medium is not quite big enough for my normal shopping. For smaller hauls it's perfect, though. The large, however, *could* push the Mini's carrying capacity if the bag is loaded down. But it does work well. In either case, normal zip ties (4-6) work well to anchor the basket to the rack. For non-basket shopping I like panniers, the SaddleSack Large and even the SlickerSack. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iLMF-N0mU_4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
Sounds like a great set of choices. I've been very happy with White Ind Hubs, which I have on both my Ram & our tandem, and with the White VBC crank, which I have on the Ram. Our tandem has a DaVinci Crank, which is actually made by White and offers a good crank/spider/ring set up at a price well below TA or even Compass. As for brakes, I love side pulls but have no experience with the extra long Silver version. I have racerMs on the Ram & posted racers on the tandem, both excellent. Good modulation and good stopping power. There is a learning curve on set up, but they seem to stay aligned very well & once you get a feel for readjustment, it's pretty simple to reinstall them. I owe my life to a set of Paul's Canti brakes, so I'm definitely biased. Also I have become very partial to levers with a built in quick release- Cane Creek, Tektro, Campy. It makes working with center pull or canti brakes a lot simpler. The Cane Creek / Tektro especially mate well with Paul's brakes. Michael On Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:33:49 PM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: > > I am starting to think about buying my dream build which will be a A. > Homer Hilsen. tentatively these are the components I would like. > > 650b wheel set built on Phil Wood hubs. > Ultegra derailleurs and cassette > cranks, undecided but not Shimano, they're ugly, Maybe White Industries > double. > White Industries pedals with Bruce Gordon half clips > Nitto lugged quill stem, hand polished to mirror finish > Nitto lugged seat post? > Brooks saddle or a Specialzed Avatar which I have and like. > > The question is around which brakes to use. The long reach side pulls are > probably adequate and are certainly cheaper but there is something about > the high polished Paul Racers that look good on Rivendell's. My question to > those who own the Paul's "Would you buy them again?" Of course we are > talking about center post mounts as I am not going to go custom frame here. > I have never been a fan of center pull brakes, the ones that I have tried > all sucked but they haven't been as well built as the Paul's. > > I would like to hope they are great brakes and easy to set up because you > can't beat side pulls for easy set up. So those who own Paul's or have used > them, do you like them? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zlDXKIGzFpcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] V brakes vs cantis (Was: Lance Armstrong Stripped of Tour de France Title)
Vs are very nice but I found the IRC wide profile cantis that Riv installed on my former Sam Hill to be just as powerful with no more lever pressure required, and they modulated noticeably better -- not that the modulation issue is a huge issue for me; just that the IRCs may well have been the nicest feeling hand brakes I've used. Since I've never been able to set up cantis and drop levers and get them to work right, I can't say what makes the difference; given that the old, wide-profile XTs on the Trike also worked very nicely (not as nicely as the IRCs, though), perhaps it is simply a wide profile thing. Oh, nope: the Mafac cantis on the Herse -- both the shorter armed regulars and the wider armed tandems, were useless dogs, even with modern aero lever, decent housing stop hardware and housing and salmon pads. Beats me. Just brought the Novara Fusion home; Tektro mechanical disks. *Very* nice -- better than the BB7s on the Fargo -- tho' the Tektros of course are pulled with tourist bar levers, not drop levers. Still, smoother, grippier, easier to modulate. Wonder what the difference is if it's not the levers? On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, dougP wrote: > I really like V-brakes on my Atlantis, with over 800 touring miles > this summer, after using Tektro 720 cantis for a few years. The > ultimate stopping power is comparable BUT the Vs requiring far less > force at the lever. On long downhills, the cantis leave my forearms > numb, especially with a load. The only fussy bit about the Vs is the > pad/rim clearance but it's no big deal. > > Based on the title, I almost skipped this thread. Thankfully we'll > always have brakes to discuss...and 2TT...and luggage...and racks... > > dougP > > On Aug 25, 12:11 am, Tom Harrop wrote: >> I'm with you Brewster, I just switched from cantis to Vs and I'm never >> going back! All with the stock Shimano pads that came with the V-brakes, >> too. My problems were most likely caused by my inability to set the cantis >> up properly, but the squeal and shudder is gone and I have 100× better >> stopping power. NB this is on a 68 cm Bombadil so the enormous head tube >> could also have been part of the problem. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." -- Claude Cockburn - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
On Monday, August 27, 2012 10:44:02 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: > > Or maybe they'll just think you're crazy, jinxed. :-) > > I've been dropping Riv-ish tid bits on my bike-commuting bro-in-law for a > couple years. He's even ridden my AHH and a friend's loaner Riv-ish Schwinn > High Sierra. He seems responsive in conversation and had nothing but high > praise for Homer and the Schwinn, but in the end his first criteria remains > that a bike has to be sub-18lbs. He talks about getting a more comfortable > bike with all the Riv-ish tid bits and fit but he can't bring himself to > buy a "heavy" bike. > I don't get it, do you have to ride a "heavy" lugged steel bike that is built with fenders, racks and panniers to make a bike "Riv-ish?" My bikes are carbon and ti and I make them "Riv-ish" by doing alot of what Grant prescribes: 1. higher bars - my bars are at or a bit above the saddle height 2. saddle height - both of my bikes have a little bit more than a "fist full of seatpost" showing 3. tires - I run "fatter" tires than most of my friends. Instead of 700x20/22/23 pumped up to 115-120psi; I ride a 700x25 tire pumped up to 80 psi. I get plenty of comfort with, at least for me, no perceptible loss of "performance." 4. wider saddle - I love Avocet O2 saddles because they are wider than the average "ass-hatchet," opps, I mean bike saddle that mean for a guy weighing in at 140lb. This means more comfort for my fat butt! 5. lower gearing - I have compact cranks iwth low gearing (48/33 and 48/34) for years because its not only good on my knees, but allow me to climb up the steep stuff. Grant's been advocating this for years. Now, almost all my buddies have gone to "compact" cranks and some have even gone to, gasp, triples 6. fenders - when I can fit it, depends on the carbon fork, I use Crud MK2 fenders. They're pretty minimal, especially when compared to others, and a bit flimsy, but guess what, they work! The key is figuring out whether you have clearance under the fork - especially a carbon fork. Anyways, my carbon bike weighs in at about 17lb; the ti bike weighs a bit more at about 18lb. Yes, there are plenty of things on my bikes that G would looked down upon - ergo levers, carbon frame/fork. Still, I've taken what I think works for me and apply them to my bikes to make them work. You may want to aim your bro-in-law into that direction, who know he may end up with a Riv custom one of these daysGood Luck! > > --Andy > > > > On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:34:49 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: >> >> On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:56:35 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote: >>> >>> Buying the book is also a nice way to support a guy who has done and >>> continues to do some things that we benefit from. >>> >>> >> Yep...thats why I mentioned purchasing two copies. I want it/Grant/RBW to >> do well and keep the good stuff coming. Maybe if I give a copy to someone >> not-in-the-know...they might enjoy the refreshing point of view to cycling. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/y-S2YD7jA7cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
Not be banal but Rivendell bikes are lugged steel bikes. I dont think a CF bike with 25c tires is really "Rivish" at all, I mean how far are we going to strech a made up term anyway? Not hating on that kind of bike at all, rode one I have up at the parents house over the weekend and while it was really fun it would not be my choice for longer rides and comfort. I an world where I had all the money I wanted to spend on bikes I would have a calfee and a riv custom, oh and a trike, and a Tandem, and a folder, and a fixie, and a full suspension mtb. But alas I only have a few bikes and cant personally limit myself to CF that isnt comfy/practical for all day riding over city streets. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Brewster Fong wrote: > > On Monday, August 27, 2012 10:44:02 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: >> >> Or maybe they'll just think you're crazy, jinxed. :-) >> >> I've been dropping Riv-ish tid bits on my bike-commuting bro-in-law for a >> couple years. He's even ridden my AHH and a friend's loaner Riv-ish Schwinn >> High Sierra. He seems responsive in conversation and had nothing but high >> praise for Homer and the Schwinn, but in the end his first criteria remains >> that a bike has to be sub-18lbs. He talks about getting a more comfortable >> bike with all the Riv-ish tid bits and fit but he can't bring himself to >> buy a "heavy" bike. >> > > I don't get it, do you have to ride a "heavy" lugged steel bike that is > built with fenders, racks and panniers to make a bike "Riv-ish?" > > My bikes are carbon and ti and I make them "Riv-ish" by doing alot of what > Grant prescribes: > > 1. higher bars - my bars are at or a bit above the saddle height > 2. saddle height - both of my bikes have a little bit more than a "fist > full of seatpost" showing > 3. tires - I run "fatter" tires than most of my friends. Instead of > 700x20/22/23 pumped up to 115-120psi; I ride a 700x25 tire pumped up to 80 > psi. I get plenty of comfort with, at least for me, no perceptible loss of > "performance." > 4. wider saddle - I love Avocet O2 saddles because they are wider than the > average "ass-hatchet," opps, I mean bike saddle that mean for a guy > weighing in at 140lb. This means more comfort for my fat butt! > 5. lower gearing - I have compact cranks iwth low gearing (48/33 and > 48/34) for years because its not only good on my knees, but allow me to > climb up the steep stuff. Grant's been advocating this for years. Now, > almost all my buddies have gone to "compact" cranks and some have even gone > to, gasp, triples > 6. fenders - when I can fit it, depends on the carbon fork, I use Crud MK2 > fenders. They're pretty minimal, especially when compared to others, and a > bit flimsy, but guess what, they work! The key is figuring out whether you > have clearance under the fork - especially a carbon fork. > > Anyways, my carbon bike weighs in at about 17lb; the ti bike weighs a bit > more at about 18lb. Yes, there are plenty of things on my bikes that G > would looked down upon - ergo levers, carbon frame/fork. Still, I've taken > what I think works for me and apply them to my bikes to make them work. You > may want to aim your bro-in-law into that direction, who know he may end up > with a Riv custom one of these daysGood Luck! > >> >> --Andy >> >> >> >> On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:34:49 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:56:35 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote: Buying the book is also a nice way to support a guy who has done and continues to do some things that we benefit from. >>> Yep...thats why I mentioned purchasing two copies. I want it/Grant/RBW >>> to do well and keep the good stuff coming. Maybe if I give a copy to >>> someone not-in-the-know...they might enjoy the refreshing point of view to >>> cycling. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/y-S2YD7jA7cJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
Brewster: we demand photos. I want to see 17/18 lb bikes set up a la Riv. Segwaying on to the weight issue: nobody is going to convince me that a sub 20 lb bike with light wheels and light, supple tires can't do things that a 35 lb bike with 47 mm Schwalbe Marathons won't. This past weekend I enjoyed my usual mini-minor-minimal "epic" rides among Rio Rancho, NM's hills with one special 1 mile climb; Sat using the 18 lb gofast with 23 mm 650c Michelin Pro Race 3s, and Sun using the '03 Curt, prolly 24-5 lb, plus added mini Packers, with 32 mm Kojaks; both same route with a 1 mile climb. 75" versus 72". The gofast climbs faster. It just does. Not hugely, but I can tell the difference. And as for the Fargo ... That said, my Fargo weighs, I am sure, north of 35 with the fat wheelset and I enjoy it immensely. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Brewster Fong wrote: > > On Monday, August 27, 2012 10:44:02 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: >> >> Or maybe they'll just think you're crazy, jinxed. :-) >> >> I've been dropping Riv-ish tid bits on my bike-commuting bro-in-law for a >> couple years. He's even ridden my AHH and a friend's loaner Riv-ish Schwinn >> High Sierra. He seems responsive in conversation and had nothing but high >> praise for Homer and the Schwinn, but in the end his first criteria remains >> that a bike has to be sub-18lbs. He talks about getting a more comfortable >> bike with all the Riv-ish tid bits and fit but he can't bring himself to buy >> a "heavy" bike. > > > I don't get it, do you have to ride a "heavy" lugged steel bike that is > built with fenders, racks and panniers to make a bike "Riv-ish?" > > My bikes are carbon and ti and I make them "Riv-ish" by doing alot of what > Grant prescribes: > > 1. higher bars - my bars are at or a bit above the saddle height > 2. saddle height - both of my bikes have a little bit more than a "fist full > of seatpost" showing > 3. tires - I run "fatter" tires than most of my friends. Instead of > 700x20/22/23 pumped up to 115-120psi; I ride a 700x25 tire pumped up to 80 > psi. I get plenty of comfort with, at least for me, no perceptible loss of > "performance." > 4. wider saddle - I love Avocet O2 saddles because they are wider than the > average "ass-hatchet," opps, I mean bike saddle that mean for a guy weighing > in at 140lb. This means more comfort for my fat butt! > 5. lower gearing - I have compact cranks iwth low gearing (48/33 and 48/34) > for years because its not only good on my knees, but allow me to climb up > the steep stuff. Grant's been advocating this for years. Now, almost all my > buddies have gone to "compact" cranks and some have even gone to, gasp, > triples > 6. fenders - when I can fit it, depends on the carbon fork, I use Crud MK2 > fenders. They're pretty minimal, especially when compared to others, and a > bit flimsy, but guess what, they work! The key is figuring out whether you > have clearance under the fork - especially a carbon fork. > > Anyways, my carbon bike weighs in at about 17lb; the ti bike weighs a bit > more at about 18lb. Yes, there are plenty of things on my bikes that G would > looked down upon - ergo levers, carbon frame/fork. Still, I've taken what I > think works for me and apply them to my bikes to make them work. You may > want to aim your bro-in-law into that direction, who know he may end up with > a Riv custom one of these daysGood Luck! >> >> >> --Andy >> >> >> >> On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:34:49 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:56:35 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote: Buying the book is also a nice way to support a guy who has done and continues to do some things that we benefit from. >>> >>> Yep...thats why I mentioned purchasing two copies. I want it/Grant/RBW to >>> do well and keep the good stuff coming. Maybe if I give a copy to someone >>> not-in-the-know...they might enjoy the refreshing point of view to cycling. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/y-S2YD7jA7cJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." -- Claude Cockburn - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun
[RBW] Re: How Saluki got its name, and is that a real dog on the badge?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 15:10 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Brewster: we demand photos. I want to see 17/18 lb bikes set up a la > Riv. I wonder, are these the bikes the Kool Kids on the VSalon and Paceline Forums refer to as "FasterBackwards"?? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 17:00 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: > Not be banal but Rivendell bikes are lugged steel bikes. I dont think > a CF bike with 25c tires is really "Rivish" at all, I mean how far are > we going to strech a made up term anyway? Not hating on that kind of > bike at all, rode one I have up at the parents house over the weekend > and while it was really fun it would not be my choice for longer rides > and comfort. Clearly there are two aspects of Rivendell bicycles, steel tubing and lugged construction, that no Ti or carbon bike will have. But it's not hard to imagine Ti bikes that have Rivendellian characteristics. I saw one on the road the other day, a Hampsten Strada Bianca with long reach sidepulls, nominally 27mm but actual width 30 mm Challenge Parigi-Roubaix tires, longer than "usual" chainstays, all typical for Rivendells, and indeed a bicycle very much at home on gravel roads (that's what "Strada Bianca" means). Crank was again typical Riv fare, a Sugino square taper crank with what looked like a 46T or smaller big ring. It belongs to a guy I know on the VSalon forum who lives not far from me, and it's his daily commuter -- again, certainly "Rivish". Of course, it had brifters and a carbon fork, that last anathema in Rivworld, but if there was such a thing as a Titanium Rivendell, this would have been it. I've not ridden it, but I would confidently expect it to be very comfortable for long rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
To follow the hijack...today I rode my lugged steel Rivendell on the same exact 20mi route I rode yesterday on my full carbon Cannondale cross bike. I had equal fun. Who gives a fuck...like the book says "Just Ride". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8SnsY1kkXZoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
My next door neighbor is the same. He bought a new aluminum race bike. All the tubes are ovalized. The frame has less flex than a rock. The tires are 22mm. It might fit 24s... but that would be a push. He's 200 pounds and fixing pinch flats every week. On Monday, August 27, 2012 12:44:02 PM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: > > Or maybe they'll just think you're crazy, jinxed. :-) > > I've been dropping Riv-ish tid bits on my bike-commuting bro-in-law for a > couple years. He's even ridden my AHH and a friend's loaner Riv-ish Schwinn > High Sierra. He seems responsive in conversation and had nothing but high > praise for Homer and the Schwinn, but in the end his first criteria remains > that a bike has to be sub-18lbs. He talks about getting a more comfortable > bike with all the Riv-ish tid bits and fit but he can't bring himself to > buy a "heavy" bike. > > --Andy > > > > On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:34:49 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: >> >> On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:56:35 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote: >>> >>> Buying the book is also a nice way to support a guy who has done and >>> continues to do some things that we benefit from. >>> >>> >> Yep...thats why I mentioned purchasing two copies. I want it/Grant/RBW to >> do well and keep the good stuff coming. Maybe if I give a copy to someone >> not-in-the-know...they might enjoy the refreshing point of view to cycling. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hlpEZXD0tZ0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
"Fixing pinch flats every week" is the relevant detail here. If someone has a race bike (carbon fiber, aluminum, whatever), loves it, does exactly the rides they want on it, and feels perfectly comfortable-- well then, more power to them! But it's sad when someone buys a bike that doesn't work for them, because they were swayed by racing bike standards that aren't appropriate for the kind of riding they want to do. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Will wrote: > My next door neighbor is the same. He bought a new aluminum race bike. All > the tubes are ovalized. The frame has less flex than a rock. The tires are > 22mm. It might fit 24s... but that would be a push. He's 200 pounds and > fixing pinch flats every week. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 15:20 -0700, Will wrote: > My next door neighbor is the same. He bought a new aluminum race bike. > All the tubes are ovalized. The frame has less flex than a rock. The > tires are 22mm. It might fit 24s... but that would be a push. He's 200 > pounds and fixing pinch flats every week. He's definitely doing something wrong: insufficient tire pressure for his weight, perhaps, or maybe he doesn't know how to "ride light." Of course, 24mm tires would help, in that he could use less pressure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv's new Thin Gripster pedals?
Oh dear, they look so tempting! Any intel out there? http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pe4.htm Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5eCQeqYVzKIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Riv's new Thin Gripster pedals?
If you Google them, you'll turn up several favorable reviews, of the pedals and also of the company's customer service. I orderd a pair. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Liesl Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 7:47 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Riv's new Thin Gripster pedals? Oh dear, they look so tempting! Any intel out there? http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pe4.htm Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5eCQeqYVzKIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riv's new Thin Gripster pedals?
No, don't know much but they look good and I've ordered set. Bob On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Liesl wrote: > Oh dear, they look so tempting! Any intel out there? > > http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pe4.htm > > Liesl > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5eCQeqYVzKIJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riv's new Thin Gripster pedals?
Not sure if they are the same VP pedal, but, if so - Jim Thill had a set on one of his bikes last year. Test rode and really liked the pedals. They are grippy and the thin profile is really nice on a lower bottom bracket bike. That said - not sure I'll order a pair. Have one set of pedals with spikes and both my legs seem to like to bleed from the spikes. Appears past health issues can have lingering effects. Probably going to replace those with MKS sneakers. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote: > No, don't know much but they look good and I've ordered set. > > > Bob > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Liesl wrote: > >> Oh dear, they look so tempting! Any intel out there? >> >> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pe4.htm >> >> Liesl >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5eCQeqYVzKIJ. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Robert Harrison > rfharri...@gmail.com > statrix.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
Wow! didn't intend to stir the "Riv=Heavy" pot. "Heavy" is/was my bro-in-laws word... relative to his non-riv-ish set-up CF bikes. As in... he praises the comfort, full-fenders, rack-ability, lugged beauty, and smooth riding 40mm tires of my Hilsen then finishes up by saying something like "but I just can't see riding a bike that's over 18lbs." When I judge a bike I'm interested in what it can do. Can I haul a kid on it? How much cargo can it carry? Can I hook my trailer up to it? Can I ride it on as well as off road? Can I hop the curb with whatever load I'm carrying to take the lane on the Sellwood Bridge if there's oncoming bike/ped traffic on the sidewalk? Can I comfortably ride it in the rain? Does it have lights/reflectors for riding after dark? Weight never really comes into the picture in my mind. Regarding the book... as others have said, I got a few new bits of info from it, but more than that it's nice to have so many of Grants thoughts in one place. And despite what my my failed attempt at humor above might imply, I hope you do share a copy of Just Ride, jinxed, and that it finds it's way into receptive hands. "Ride it like you earned it" --seen on a sticker on a bike helmet in Seattle --Andy On Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:49:06 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: > > This is silly, but I had a question to those of you who've read the book. > I had been considering getting the book the next time I place an order with > RBW, then I happened to see a copy at the local B&N. I was heading out the > door but stopped to skim a couple pages. My question is this...if I have > been following the Readers, blug, and web articles, are there any new or > different writings in the book? I realize the description is billed as a > collection of micro-essays, and the couple pages I glanced at were familiar > from sources I already have. Not that I mind having mutiple copies of > something, and I want to support the book, I'm just curious if there is > expanded and or new content? It might be the difference between getting one > of the BSNY books (Ive not read or followed) now and get the Just Ride book > later. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JSEsCXHPTWUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
Agree. My brother is at least 40 lb heavier than my 175 (at 4" taller) and happily rides 23s (nominal) at well under 100 psi (because he is casual about tire pressure) on LA streets -- heck, for that matter, he's taken his RB-1 with 23s into the mountains near Santa Monica. Note that he does not choose 23s as such; he's cheap and has so many bikes that he uses what he scavenges, mostly. OTOH, I'd rather (as the man said) stab myself in the eye than ride an aluminum frame with oversized, ovalized tubes and skinny tires. Fat tires, maybe. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 15:20 -0700, Will wrote: >> My next door neighbor is the same. He bought a new aluminum race bike. >> All the tubes are ovalized. The frame has less flex than a rock. The >> tires are 22mm. It might fit 24s... but that would be a push. He's 200 >> pounds and fixing pinch flats every week. > > He's definitely doing something wrong: insufficient tire pressure for > his weight, perhaps, or maybe he doesn't know how to "ride light." Of > course, 24mm tires would help, in that he could use less pressure. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." -- Claude Cockburn - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: To owners of 66cm Quickbeams - You're getting very, very sleepy...
. On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:19:38 PM UTC-7, Cycletex wrote: > > Now. > > I command you. > > Sell me your 66cm Quickbeam. > > No, really. > > Clif > ph# (five one two - 695-235two.) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oof5jk4aHf0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's new Thin Gripster pedals?
Do these new pedals need the extra steel washer, to avoid gouging the cranks? - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7iw7mCVYn8cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] City bike, maiden voyage
2012 Novara Fusion. This is skirting Off Topic but since I may put Albatrosses or Doves on it (think Boscos will be too swept back) and since the bar is several inches higher than saddle, *and* 'cause it's set up to be comfortable and useful ... perhaps it's still within the margin. Anyway, went, spent, brought it home, installed thorn proofing, Axiom Dutchies, mirror. Vittoria "Randoneur" tires, but they would not pass Jan's inspection: *double* protective belt, tread, nominal 37s but more like <35. I added: ! Tire Liner ! Thick bottomed tube, *with* Slime Total rear wheel weight (disk, Alfine 8, additions as above): 4 kg. I raised the saddle 4" and took it on a 10 mile errand ride. Gawd, glad I ride Rivs. Part of the problem, of course, is the saddle position: if it were mine the saddle would go back fully 2 inches, at least. As it was, even with "tourist" bars above saddle height, I felt tension on my forearms--even without a tight grip on the bar--from the exertion of holding my torso up. With the saddle mid-rail on a no-setback post, I couldn't get any power to the pedals and found myself using odd muscles that quickly got sore. There is considerable drag on both hubs: man at shop (experienced) said it's the disk pads and that they will wear in. Hope so! "Comfort" saddle with fat cushy pads was not particularly comfortable, for me. I do not like retentionless pedals, tho' to be fair to the concept these are aluminums with rubber edges that gave little grip to my boat shoes. Forgot to take photos, so y'all are spared. Friend seems pleased with it; hope she really does start riding it regularly. $830 out the door after membership discount, Lezyne converto pump (nice, shiny aluminum with footpeg), mirror, tax, and $20 REI membership fee. Tubes and liners from another store. -- "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." -- Claude Cockburn - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I've got a project bike. Do you want to do the conversion, or should I?
NICE, Bill VERY nice... it just beckons to be ridden... I LOVE the way the Saturae x28 rims look... just be wary they're single-walled, and NOT the strongest (compared to today's rims)... Case in point (and granted I did a totally boneheaded descent down a steep flight of stairs), I potato-chipped the front rim like it was nothing. Enjoy, BB http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/4547700885/in/set-72157623574409014 On Monday, August 20, 2012 1:24:46 PM UTC-4, William wrote: > > And now it's totally rideable. I did the compulsory ride around the block > yesterday afternoon without issue. I'll do a slightly longer shake down > ride tonight. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7824790510/in/photostream > > > > On Monday, August 6, 2012 11:51:05 AM UTC-7, William wrote: >> >> I've gotten a hold of an early 80s Stumpjumper Sport that appears to be >> practically unridden. Deer head derailleurs, specialized cranks and hubs. >> Lugged at the headtube and lugged unicrown fork. Super long chainstays. >> I think it will make a great substitute for an Atlantis or Bombadil type >> of touring bike. I'm thinking the Compass 26" tires, or maybe Big Apples, >> with fenders, and drop bars. This came from the Harding Elementary School >> Dad's Club. I could do a conversion and then try to sell it, but first I >> wanted to float it here to see if anyone in the Bay Area was thinking of >> doing something like this and wanted to have the fun for themselves. Let >> me know if you think you'd like the shot at this. I'm thinking that $400 >> made out to Harding Elementary School would be enough to keep me from >> building a bombproof touring bike out of this. Let me know if you want a >> crack at it. Here's the photo set: >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157630935094690/ >> >> I am especially interested in getting out of doing this conversion >> because I always get emotionally attached to these projects and want to >> keep them. :) >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OT0mqS_ehI8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
> > I forgot to mention: > They do brake silky smooth with Kool-Stop Salmon pads in wet and dry > conditions. Very quiet and feel great when braking. > BTW, all those adjustment options I mentioned earlier, can actually work > for you to help you get them adjusted on the fly if you are a novice, like > me at adjusting brakes. They seem to get aligned good with just a nudge of > the straddle cable hanger if they get out of kilter. > The look of the Racers is growning on me, too. I like how they brake better than my sidepulls, but they are tricky for me to get adjusted. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gReu_JQWkIsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's new Thin Gripster pedals?
I've been running box pedals so these fit into my favorite zone. Probably be sold out before I get to them. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/x-LS-0RPU30J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinions on Paul Racers or side pulls
> > PS - that's "Kool-Stop Salmon *Thinline*" pads. > > Tip: Just pop out the ball end of the straddle cable as a quick release. Paul said it was fine to do that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/R6tUJg7MWjoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
On Monday, August 27, 2012 4:02:16 AM UTC-4, Evan wrote: > > "Comfort. Function. Fun." Sounds like an unofficial Riv motto. > > They could put that in latin on the next new model's head badge. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hUMOLsEv0_MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's new Thin Gripster pedals?
These look thin enough to affect your Gain Ratio! I'll have to measure my Grip Kings to know for sure... but switching to these from GKs may turn your 170mm cranks into 172.5mm cranks. It might even inspire you to lower your saddle a smidge. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean who today noticed the difference between riding in Keen sandals versus Keen Coronados -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ODy2L-CuX5EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Should I "Just Ride", or am I already?
My thinking is that he's simply too heavy for the tires. I'm thinking 135-145 pounds are about what those tires can support. There are no professional racers pushing 200 pounds. Also, I think it is dangerous to ride 22mm tires on a carbon fork. You're pushing the pressure limits and doing so on a fork that probably won't support a flat at speed. On Monday, August 27, 2012 5:46:56 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 15:20 -0700, Will wrote: > > My next door neighbor is the same. He bought a new aluminum race bike. > > All the tubes are ovalized. The frame has less flex than a rock. The > > tires are 22mm. It might fit 24s... but that would be a push. He's 200 > > pounds and fixing pinch flats every week. > > He's definitely doing something wrong: insufficient tire pressure for > his weight, perhaps, or maybe he doesn't know how to "ride light." Of > course, 24mm tires would help, in that he could use less pressure. > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JGWY09-ahrgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's new Thin Gripster pedals?
Of course both pedal and shoe thickness variations may induce us fussy folks to tweek saddle height, but the radius of the circle your foot goes in stays the same. With longer cranks the circle is bigger so knees come up higher (for same max extension) and feet go further front to back. Not really the same things. On Aug 27, 8:06 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > These look thin enough to affect your Gain Ratio! I'll have to measure my > Grip Kings to know for sure... but switching to these from GKs may turn your > 170mm cranks into 172.5mm cranks. It might even inspire you to lower your > saddle a smidge. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > who today noticed the difference between riding in Keen sandals versus Keen > Coronados -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's new Thin Gripster pedals?
That's right of course; it's an offset, not a stretch. Still... them pedals is thin! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TPhUkl_8Wb0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
