[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

[charlie]

Loved your story in the Riv Reader Scott..I use the now out of
production banana bag but also a Carradice for colder weather. I find
myself doing something similar when commuting, I just fill my water
bottles and don't take anything but my lunch to work (a modest piece
of some kind of protein and a big salad) Usually one piece of fruit on
the way home but since my diet change often not even that. I just
don't get hungry as much now and can usually ride around 2 hours
without doing anything different food wise whereas previously I would
just eat back all the calories I had just burned while riding.

On Aug 19, 2:38 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
> Interesting thread (as was the other long'ish one on Taubes' book).
>  I've read his book and was going to reply in that thread but thought
> better of it... and I've watched this thread and hit Reply a number of
> times only to then think, Ahh I like Jim and don't want to complicate
> his life, and thought better of it too. 
>
> So here's what I will share (and it's really a moot point anyway
> because people is gonna believe -or be into- whatever it is they
> desire regardless of Point/Counterpoint). 
>
> First: what I've learned in 5 years. 
>
> People dig convenient answers to hard questions. (I did once too, but
> life doesn't always pan out that way so I had to find my own way)
>
> People -also- very much want to have those answers framed around what
> it is they already know, already enjoy. (and I would have too,
> probably ...but life didn't pan out that way for me either)
>
> Two:
> There is a great (think, Grand Canyon-sized) divide between Healthy
> and Fit. The Small die at a similar rate to the Big all the time. 
>
> Three:
> I know much about what it takes to lose significant weight and keep it
> off, but even greater to that I know weight is a shell, that much like
> a suit when either in or out of it, reveals true numbers of Self, and
> Hard Work invested into Self. 
> And those numbers do not lie. And I am not speaking of numbers lost
> with regard to pounds, as significant as they are or can be in any
> person's particular case... no, I am speaking to the numbers of Labs
> (blood work, etc). But far better though those, these kinds of
> numbers: good days (with hugs, smiles, the chance to move freely one's
> body under its own inertia) added onto a life that was unthinkably
> horrid, sad, lonely and professionally foretold as supposed to be
> Pushing Up Daisies a little over 5 years back. 
> The books never reveal those kinds of numbers. 
>
> Four:
> Me? I carry water and occasionally a banana (but that's only if my
> ride is above 30 miles or more)... and it's in a Carradice
> bag. Sorry. 
>
> PS--> See Jim, I behaved. 
>
> -Scott

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RE: [RBW] WTB: NIGEL SMYTHE 'BIG LOAFER'

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I have one in very good shape.  It's the canvas version.  Hadn't thought about 
selling so haven't thought about pricing.  It was on an Atlantis for about 200 
miles.  I like saddlebags better.  When I took it off the bike I cleaned it up 
(there wasn't much cleaning to be done); it looks almost new.  No stains.  Do 
you have an idea of what you thought one should go for? 

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Subject: [RBW] WTB: NIGEL SMYTHE 'BIG LOAFER'

I'm hoping that somebody has a Nigel Smythe 'Big Loafer' which isn't getting 
the attention that such a beautiful bag deserves!

Not to worry, it will be going to a good home and will be taken on numerous 
outings. It will enjoy picnics, trips to the park, rides along the lakefront, 
etc., and will never have a dull moment.

Please contact me asap if you have a suitable candidate for adoption.

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RE: [RBW] WTB: NIGEL SMYTHE 'BIG LOAFER'

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Soory for the blast reply, folks. 

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Subject: RE: [RBW] WTB: NIGEL SMYTHE 'BIG LOAFER'

I have one in very good shape.  It's the canvas version.  Hadn't thought about 
selling so haven't thought about pricing.  It was on an Atlantis for about 200 
miles.  I like saddlebags better.  When I took it off the bike I cleaned it up 
(there wasn't much cleaning to be done); it looks almost new.  No stains.  Do 
you have an idea of what you thought one should go for? 

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Subject: [RBW] WTB: NIGEL SMYTHE 'BIG LOAFER'

I'm hoping that somebody has a Nigel Smythe 'Big Loafer' which isn't getting 
the attention that such a beautiful bag deserves!

Not to worry, it will be going to a good home and will be taken on numerous 
outings. It will enjoy picnics, trips to the park, rides along the lakefront, 
etc., and will never have a dull moment.

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[RBW] Re: Today's Rivendell-ish Ride in France

[Mike]

Have a great ride Eric. Looking forward to your post-ride report.

--mike

On Aug 19, 5:25 am, Eric Norris  wrote:
> Here's a brief video from today's ride in France. Saw a nice Atlantis at the 
> start--so far the only Rivendell I've seen, but there are of course lots and 
> lots of Riv-ish bikes. More lugged steel, leather saddles, and fenders than 
> you shake a Baguette at ...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCNpmW3eOx4&sns=tw
>
> --Eric N
> Sent from the iPad 2

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[RBW] Tires for D2R2? Hetre, Fatty Rumpkin, or Col de la Vie?

[Michael Farrell]

Any suggestions on tires (specifically 650b) for next weekend's d2r2?
Thanks, Mike

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Re: [RBW] Tires for D2R2? Hetre, Fatty Rumpkin, or Col de la Vie?

[cyclotourist]

Man, have fun on that!  IMHO the premier amateur bike event in the States.
As for tires, I don't think you could ever go wrong with Hetres.  That's my
armchair recommendation :-)

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Michael Farrell  wrote:

> Any suggestions on tires (specifically 650b) for next weekend's d2r2?
> Thanks, Mike
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Re: [RBW] Tires for D2R2? Hetre, Fatty Rumpkin, or Col de la Vie?

[Aaron Thomas]

I dunno, man. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I think the Hetres 
are nice but vastly overrated. Probably can't go wrong using them, but all 
the others you mention would be just as good.

If I were doing that ride (I wish I were!), I'd be on 700c in the form of 
Jack Brown greens or cyclocross tires in the 32-35mm range, such as the 
Challenge Grifo XS.

Whatever you choose, please post some pics of the ride!

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[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

[charlie]

Yea Philip, I know the example wasn't the best and it is funny now
that I think about it but Scott impresses me with his resolve and the
thing at least for me is, I believe Scott eats a ton of veggies (I
rarely did before now) and in spite of the focus on meat and fat in
the Paleo/ Atkins blah, blah etc. way, the common factor is (or should
be) vegetables in large quantities which many people do not eat enough
of when they follow the above 'diets'. I believe veggies, fruits, nuts
and berries were the original food (but that's a philosophical side
issue) but I've always felt the best after a modest piece of protein
and a huge salad coupled with an additional vegetable.
 Desserts when we have them are berries these days or some sort of
fruit like apple slices or whatever. Like Grant, we make our own
treats but I admit to the occasional micro serving of ice cream and
like Scott, I loves my coffee and Phillip (Scott too) what can I say
about beer 'the nectar of the gods' and wineI  love it too but
don't consume as much of either these days. Bicycling. I love to
ride and would do it just for the fun of it if there were no benefit.
It keeps me moving which is a biggie for me now that I'm nearing 53
and Philip.. it doesn't work as easily the older you get but YMMV.
This general topic (exercise/diet/health) is interesting and pertinent
to my life, glad it was posted !

On Aug 19, 9:53 am, Philip Williamson 
wrote:
> No disrespect from me either, but citing a vegan as an example in a
> "what would Taubes" eat thread is funny to me.
>
> I've never been an over-excerciser. Every time I stop drinking beer
> and ride my bike as much as I like, I drop down to about 200 lbs
> (which is good). I'm at 240 now, and just started that again. Let's
> see if it works now that I'm 42.
>
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
>
> On Aug 18, 7:17 pm, charlie  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > No disrespect here Rene' but maybe try not exercising so much..I
> > know riding is enjoyable I love it but try to mix it up a little and
> > if you are trying to lose fat, lift weights and do shorter rides. The
> > plain facts I am almost 53 and 258 down from 282 with virtually no
> > exercise due to weather and work. Been riding some lately but not
> > enough to suit me. With my work demands and other factors, I can't
> > ride two hours everyday without recovery time in between riding days.
> > Over training will just make you tired and no amount (or type) of food
> > will magically make you recover faster. Being young with good genetics
> > and in great condition is the ultimate but if we aren't in one or all
> > three categories we have to work smart not just hard. I think Scott C.
> > went from 500+ to whatever he is now riding only 10+1 miles every day
> > but probably sometimes more than that when he felt like it. The point
> > is, don't bite off more than you can chew !  I have been an over
> > exerciser in my life and I became frustrated that my progress slowed
> > and my mood altered by overdoing it chronically. I suffered a few
> > overuse injuries along the way that I still have to be careful of.
> > These days I try to pace myself and don't even look for aerobic
> > exercise to help me lose fat. I hope this helps in some way toward
> > your goals. Keep at it, I am..
>
> > On Aug 17, 7:26 pm, René Sterental  wrote:
>
> > > I'm definitely interested in losing weight and couldn't really care how 
> > > fast
> > > I ride. I'm just unable at this time to sustain several days of riding 
> > > for 2
> > > hours each one and one day of rest doesn't seem to be enough. I'm not 
> > > eating
> > > during my rides and only drink water. Trying to follow the low carb plan
> > > which I've gotten pretty good for the most part, but have yet to nail
> > > precisely for a prolonged time. I'm gluten free and now decided to go 
> > > dairy
> > > free as well, although not yet 100% but almost. Not sure what nuts I can 
> > > or
> > > cannot eat, some days I eat a lot of fruit, some days very little. My 
> > > meals
> > > are mostly meat/fish and salad/vegetables although I'm tempted to add 
> > > hummus
> > > at night. Probably still eating quantities that are too large...
>
> > > Anyway, I've read Taubes and will give Sisson a good reading as well as I
> > > just skimmed it.
>
> > > I just wanted to get a sense for how best to address the feeling of
> > > weariness after riding several days in a row; is it just lack of
> > > conditioning and this will come over time? I ride almost all the time at 
> > > 70
> > > - 75% of Max HR except when mountain biking on weekends when during the
> > > steeper climbs I can hit 100% of Max HR.
>
> > > Will keep at it and see how it goes... the advise on this thread has been
> > > quite useful.
>
> > > René

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[RBW] FS - 1984 Trek 620 56cm

[Marty]

Some of you may know I ran into a deal on a pair of 620s (his 'n hers) here 
in Chicago. Just finished re-habbing "hers", and have decided to sell - 
keeping "his" for now. (It's on the stand, and waiting for my next order 
from Rivendell - planning an Albatross 2X7 set-up) ) 56C2C - both seat tube 
and top tube. 32 1/4" standover. Everything was disassembled & re-lubed. 
Boeshield added wherever possible. New cables, Pasela 27"x 1 1/4" tires, 
Christophe straps and Newbaum's bar tape. (Note the black hemp twine!) Tried 
to make it as original as possible, and it's matches the '84 catalog listing 
on vintagetrek.com pretty much dead-on. Will include the original 
reflectors. Frame has no dents or dings, just the usual assortment of nicks 
and scratches. Saddle is for the photo only, but I'll include an Avocet 
gel-flex in it's place. (A little worn, but with an Aardvark cover you're 
good to go.) I call this a "level 1" restoration as I did not get into every 
nook and cranny with a toothbrush and simichrome. (That would be level 2. 
Level three calls for NOS parts.) It's ready to ride! Offering it to the 
group first. (Also posted on iBob) Make me a reasonable offer given the 
quality, rarity and originality. Shipping at cost, or you can pick it up in 
Chicago. 

Marty

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Re: [RBW] Tires for D2R2? Hetre, Fatty Rumpkin, or Col de la Vie?

[Steve Palincsar]

> Any suggestions on tires (specifically 650b) for next weekend's d2r2?

If you can use Hetres, why would you even consider anything else?



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[RBW] Schwalbe Marathon Extreme Folding 700 x 40 tires FS

[James Valiensi]

Hi,
I have a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Extremes used for one 25-mile mixed terrain 
ride. They have a little dirt on the outside and talc on the inside. No damage, 
tears, or punctures. 

They are 42-622 or 700C x 40. They fit on my 29'er but I really wanted to use 
them on my Rivendell. They were a little too big, so I bought the next size 
down.

These tire provide great off road traction, but don't have the buzz and drag of 
regular MTB tires - I'd highly recommend them.

$135 including shipping to the US.

Cheers!

James Valiensi, PE
Northridge, CA
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Re: [RBW] FS - 1984 Trek 620 56cm

[Seth Vidal]

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Marty  wrote:
> Some of you may know I ran into a deal on a pair of 620s (his 'n hers) here
> in Chicago. Just finished re-habbing "hers", and have decided to sell -
> keeping "his" for now. (It's on the stand, and waiting for my next order
> from Rivendell - planning an Albatross 2X7 set-up) ) 56C2C - both seat tube
> and top tube. 32 1/4" standover. Everything was disassembled & re-lubed.
> Boeshield added wherever possible. New cables, Pasela 27"x 1 1/4" tires,
> Christophe straps and Newbaum's bar tape. (Note the black hemp twine!) Tried
> to make it as original as possible, and it's matches the '84 catalog listing
> on vintagetrek.com pretty much dead-on. Will include the original
> reflectors. Frame has no dents or dings, just the usual assortment of nicks
> and scratches. Saddle is for the photo only, but I'll include an Avocet
> gel-flex in it's place. (A little worn, but with an Aardvark cover you're
> good to go.) I call this a "level 1" restoration as I did not get into every
> nook and cranny with a toothbrush and simichrome. (That would be level 2.
> Level three calls for NOS parts.) It's ready to ride! Offering it to the
> group first. (Also posted on iBob) Make me a reasonable offer given the
> quality, rarity and originality. Shipping at cost, or you can pick it up in
> Chicago.
> Marty
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/6062981016/in/photostream
>


ngggh.*


-sv

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it a lot around scones.

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Extreme Folding 700 x 40 tires FS

[Michael_S]

I'd love to be back east riding the D2R2!  What an incredible ride.  I think 
the new GB Lierre's would suit a ride like this. A little more tread and a 
little lighter/narrower then the Hetre but just as fast.  Have a blast!
 
~mike

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[RBW] Re: FS: A few leftovers....Dura Ace Hubs and Cane Creek 100 Headset

[pruckelshaus]

Any idea if the hubs can be converted for 9/10s use?  I've done it with 
lower end freehubs by swapping out the FH body, but wasn't sure about DA. 
 Also, do the hubs come with Skewers?

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[RBW] Re: Tires for D2R2? Hetre, Fatty Rumpkin, or Col de la Vie?

[pruckelshaus]

IMO Fatty's are terrible in anything resembling mud.  If the course is dry, 
or if the course is mostly gravel (I've never done the ride, but would like 
to one of these years) I'd go for them, otherwise I would personally go with 
CdlVs

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[RBW] Re: For Sale - 60 cm Rivendell Quickbeam - With PICS

[steve]

Quickbeam has been sold.  Steve

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[RBW] Frame pump for 2TT 56cm Hillborne?

[Wemmick]

I got a new 56 cm Sam Hillborne in July, one with two top tubes, and was 
wondering if anyone knows what frame pump will fit between the tubes.  I 
tried a few at my LBS, but as top tubes are close together on the 56, none 
fit.  

Any suggestions? 

For the curious, pictures are here: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/a1cyclery/sets/7215762719078/

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[RBW] Re: Tires for D2R2? Hetre, Fatty Rumpkin, or Col de la Vie?

[Ryan J]

Fatty Rumpkins wouldn't be bad for the gravel roads, but it seems people who 
ride them love the Hetres.  I don't think that either would be a bad choice. 
 

Looks like a great ride, plenty of up and downs.

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[RBW] WTT: Bar tape

[Daniel]

I have several rolls of blue Tressostar and I'm looking for something
that will be more neutral or more earthy after shellacing (brown,
grey, tan, white, yellow, even orange).
Cheers!

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[RBW] Lots o' bikes for sale lately

[cyclotourist]

Looks like everybody is selling something Rivendellian.  A lot of posts
here, a real nice 26"
ARon
the 'bay (wasn't it for sale here once or twice in the past), and a
couple adds for Atlantii and even a Yves Gomes that was ended early.  Go buy
a bike!

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