[RBW] Re: Hunqa photos, and Albatross HB question

2011-05-03 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hi, Bill.

I'm glad the folks at RBW are helping. I'm sure you'll stabilize the
bar unless the stem itself is problematic.

I use Albatross bars with a Dirt Drop 100 with a shim with mo
problems, even on torn-up roads and hoof-beaten trails. Maybe not as
bad as what you've got. But I weigh ~245. Never a slip.

I'm curious... what's your PBH (without shoes)? How's the standover on
you Hunqapillar? What size tires do you use? I'm trying to decide
between a(nother) 60cm Hillborne and a 62cm Hunqapillar. I'm not a
crotch worrier, really. But I'm also not insane and have no desire to
buy a bike which promises grievous bodily harm with every dismount.
Unfortunately, I think it's the 62 or no Hunqa for me; I really like
my bars way up there.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On May 2, 10:30 pm, Bill Rhea  wrote:
> I spoke with Jay who consulted Mark at Riv.
>
> Next logical step is blue loc-tight on the bar and shims.  Gnurling
> (gnarling?) or roughing up the point of contact was discussed, but is
> better suited for shim-free situations.  Stay tuned.  If that doesn't
> work I'll consider an old-school 25.5mm mountain bike stem similar to
> the one I've got on my X0-1.  I'm thinking, 12cm and about as flat as
> they used to make 'em would work
>
> I like the Albatross bar for offroad; I think they climb great on
> crazy steep stuff and feel good going down loose fire roads, and you
> can shift and really keep your grip at the same time. Not my first
> choice for super-steep and rocky, rooted downhill singletrack, but if
> I were riding a chair lift in Tahoe I'd probably rent a bike to fit
> the terrain.  La Hunqa is perfect for my neighborhood :-)
>
> In the back of my head is the quickie bar conversion using cable
> splitters to a bullmoose configuration.  I had a Nitto bullmoose-type
> bar on an '82 SR mountain bike and h'bar failure never even entered my
> mind, and that's a good feeling for an old fart that doesn't bounce
> back from crashes like he used to.
>
> Happy trails,
>
> -br
>
> On May 2, 3:23 pm, Bill Rhea  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the reply, Minh.
>
> > If the stem were about ready to close on itself (i.e., get to the
> > point where both sides of the stem clamp were touching) then I would
> > try the bigger ship option.  Never underestimate the power of the beer
> > can shim :-)    However there is still plenty of room for the stem to
> > tighten before this happens.
>
> > I'm thinking, maybe a steel mountain bike stem (25.4mm) with a wider
> > clamp and 2 bolts (if such a thing exists)?  I'm sure the lugged stem
> > would hold a drop bar or mustache bar (26.0mm) just fine - it's just
> > the leverage you get on a 'Tross that makes this an issue, I think.  I
> > mean, on the road this is a non-issue, as it holds just fine.  It's
> > bombing down rocky trails at speed where it'll give if you hit
> > something hard
>
> > Has anybody ever tried scoring the shim with something sharp in order
> > to make a less-smooth surface?  Or is this just dumb??
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > -br
>
> > On May 2, 2:57 pm, Minh  wrote:
>
> > > I think you need more shim, soda can?
>
> > > On May 2, 5:08 pm, Bill Rhea  wrote:
>
> > > > Thanks for mentioning this Jeremy, but yup indeed, I've got a Nitto
> > > > shim in there to drop the clamp diameter down to 25.4mm.
>
> > > > I wonder if anybody has a trick o' the trade?  The bar, stem, shims
> > > > and clamp are devoid of grease (though the binder bolt has been
> > > > greased liberally).
>
> > > > -br
>
> > > > On May 2, 1:18 pm, Jeremy Till  wrote:
>
> > > > > This may be obvious enough that you neglected to mention it, but do
> > > > > you have a shim in the bar clamp, since the lugged stem is 26.0 and
> > > > > Albatrosses are 25.4?
>
> > > > > On May 2, 12:14 pm, Bill Rhea  wrote:
>
> > > > > > I spent some time on favorite trails yesterday and snapped a few 
> > > > > > cell
> > > > > > phone cam photos of my 62cm Hunqa:
>
> > > > > >https://picasaweb.google.com/115167041841412610078/HunqapillarInTheHi...
>
> > > > > > I really like the Albatross bar set up on this bike.  Being able to
> > > > > > lean back a bit when descending lends confidence, I think, and I 
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > touring with this kind of bar.  However, I've got a vexing issue: No
> > > > > > matter how hard I cinch the binder bolt on the lugged stem, the bars
> > > > > > will still move a bit when going through rough spots at speed.  Does
> > > > > > anybody have any suggestions to help sure this up?  I replaced the
> > > > > > stock binder bolt with a higher-tensile strenght variety, but still
> > > > > > have snapped a few trying to get sufficient bind on the bar
>
> > > > > > I found that I have to angle the grip ends of the bar downward
> > > > > > somewhat in order to keep my hands from slipping forward on the bars
> > > > > > on steep, rough trails, but the amount of downward slant you see in
> > > > > > the photos is after slipping somewhat and is a bit more than I like.
> > 

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis

2011-05-03 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Wow. Glad I went with the DaVinci splitters, then. Though I'd prefer
something other than black.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On May 2, 5:53 pm, jandrews_nyc  wrote:
> Speaking of cable splitters...
> has anyone used the Bruce Gordon ones?
> I purchased a set but have yet to set them up as the installation
> instructions read like a primer on non-linear differential equations.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Atlantis

2011-05-03 Thread Bruce
People seem to love or hate M-bars. They took some getting used to for me, and 
getting them up high enough really helped. Now they are my preferred climbing 
bars (We do hilly training rides 2x a week April - August). You can get 
surprisingly aero on them for fast descents as well.

Bruce




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>Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: New Atlantis
>
>
> M-bars sort of split the difference, which is nice.  Maybe start with those,
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and The Weather...

2011-05-03 Thread japhilip
I'm in as is my son who will come up from DC. See you at the Sherwood.

On May 2, 11:46 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> Attention Riv Rally East Riders:
>
> The Wellsboro PA weather forecast for the coming weekend (as of Monday
> evening) indicates a 30% chance of rain.
> According to my math, that translates to a 70% chance of NO RAIN... So
> as of this moment Riv Rally East is ON
>
> Please confirm if you will be joining us; otherwise please don't
> forget to cancel your reservation.
>
> The schedule:
>
> I will arrive Friday evening (exact time TBD; aiming for around dinner
> time).  I am staying at the Sherwood Motel.
> My cell is (908) 303-6887
>
> SAT AM - Assemble at Wellsboro Village Green at 8 AM.  We will depart
> shortly thereafter.  Our Saturday route will feature the 44 mile
> Wellsboro Route, which takes us down through the Pine Creek Gorge.
> (see 
> link:http://pinecreekbikerides.com/Bike%20Rides/Wellsboro%20Loop/Wellsboro...).
>
> Sunday - Riders' choice:  There are several great rides in the area
> (see web site -http://pinecreekbikerides.com), I thought we'd allow
> group consensus to determine the route; otherwise I might recommend
> one of the Colton Point loops (since these provide options for those
> who need to leave earlier on Sunday to travel home).  Personally I
> plan to depart for home in the early afternoon, so I hope to get in a
> 4-5 hour ride in the morning.
>
> I plan to bring light rain gear, but rain or shine, I am REALLY
> looking forward to this weekend; I hope you are too.  I am trying to
> contact local rider Bill Yacovissi, who hopefully can give us an idea
> of the dirt road conditions.
>
> For those planning to arrive on Friday, if you would like to meet on
> Friday evening, give a call or send a text once you arrive... I will
> try to stick to my self-imposed curfew of 11 PM.
>
> Hope to see you at the Rally!!!
>
> Bobby B
>
> On May 2, 2:52 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 07:37 -0700, Bruce O. wrote:
> > > Hi Bob,
>
> > > What is the status on the ride? My buddy (Rick) and I are still
> > > planning to come.
>
> > > As of today (Mon)  looks like (rain) ... Sat. 30%, Sun. 40%.
>
> > > Also - if the ride is on, do you have a schedule of the events?
>
> > The status of the rally is getting very close to a critical, have to
> > know RIGHT NOW question.  If it's going to be postponed, hotel
> > reservations will have to be canceled, and that requires lead time.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Break-in for Berthoud saddles?

2011-05-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 15:54 -0700, islaysteve wrote:
> Sorry if this doesn't add much, but at 200K, my butt would be sore
> with any saddle!  Maybe it's just fine and your expectations are too
> high?  Or do you have experience with other saddles that are comfy
> over that distance??

Certainly.  I've done a couple of 200K brevets with a B.17 saddle and
zero butt pain.  It is, after all, only 25 more miles than a century,
not exactly a really long ride -- not, for example, like a 1200K.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and The Weather...

2011-05-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 20:46 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
> Attention Riv Rally East Riders:
> 
> The Wellsboro PA weather forecast for the coming weekend (as of Monday
> evening) indicates a 30% chance of rain.
> According to my math, that translates to a 70% chance of NO RAIN... So
> as of this moment Riv Rally East is ON
> 
> Please confirm if you will be joining us; otherwise please don't
> forget to cancel your reservation.

Thanks.  I'll be there.



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[RBW] Re: New Atlantis

2011-05-03 Thread Scott G.
Soma is selling the M-bars grandad, the Lauterwasser.
I just put them on the WmJ Hood, with Genny levers.
The bars have more drop than M-bars.
Around town they feel good, haven't done a long ride
with them yet.

http://store.somafab.com/solahacr.html

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[RBW] Re: Break-in for Berthoud saddles?

2011-05-03 Thread Christian
Yes, a saddle should feel good for a long time.  My Berthoud pokes my
sit bones after awhile.  My old B17 was comfortable all day and into
the night.  I returned it under warranty when it became quite
lopsided.  I then purchased a Berthoud.  It's a really nice saddle and
I think I may keep trying.  I have another B17 I might use for this
weekend's 300k.

Best wishes

Chistian

On May 3, 7:34 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 15:54 -0700, islaysteve wrote:
> > Sorry if this doesn't add much, but at 200K, my butt would be sore
> > with any saddle!  Maybe it's just fine and your expectations are too
> > high?  Or do you have experience with other saddles that are comfy
> > over that distance??
>
> Certainly.  I've done a couple of 200K brevets with a B.17 saddle and
> zero butt pain.  It is, after all, only 25 more miles than a century,
> not exactly a really long ride -- not, for example, like a 1200K.

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[RBW] Re: Break-in for Berthoud saddles?

2011-05-03 Thread newenglandbike
This may be blasphemy to some, but you might try to get the saddle
wet, or just damp, and then go for a ride.   I have done that
(inadvertently) with brooks saddles in rain storms and they do tend to
break right in after being ridden wet.   Farthest I've gone in a day
is 135 miles though, after which my whole body hurts.   YMMV.

-Matt


P.S. there was another thread on here recently about Bethoud saddles
twisting on the rails, for which there seemed to be a special clamp
you could get as a preventative measure.



On May 3, 9:04 am, Christian  wrote:
> Yes, a saddle should feel good for a long time.  My Berthoud pokes my
> sit bones after awhile.  My old B17 was comfortable all day and into
> the night.  I returned it under warranty when it became quite
> lopsided.  I then purchased a Berthoud.  It's a really nice saddle and
> I think I may keep trying.  I have another B17 I might use for this
> weekend's 300k.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Chistian
>
> On May 3, 7:34 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 15:54 -0700, islaysteve wrote:
> > > Sorry if this doesn't add much, but at 200K, my butt would be sore
> > > with any saddle!  Maybe it's just fine and your expectations are too
> > > high?  Or do you have experience with other saddles that are comfy
> > > over that distance??
>
> > Certainly.  I've done a couple of 200K brevets with a B.17 saddle and
> > zero butt pain.  It is, after all, only 25 more miles than a century,
> > not exactly a really long ride -- not, for example, like a 1200K.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1996 Rivendale

2011-05-03 Thread Leslie
$200??Hope it's not stolen!  If honestly for sale, I'd grab it
just to save it



On May 3, 2:09 am, Thaddeus  wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> I just came across this amusing post on the Boston Craigslist.
>
> http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/bik/2358812458.html
>
> Obviously no relation to the seller.  Seems curious at best...

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[RBW] Re: Grease and Beeswax

2011-05-03 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 2, 5:22 pm, Alex  wrote:

> I'm building up a bike from scratch for the first time in my life
> (exciting!) and I have a question about grease and beeswax.

cool. no better way to learn about your bike.

you want to grease just about everything - all threaded bolts and
anywhere metal contacts metal.  some subscribe to different schools of
thought regarding things like greasing bb spindles, but when in doubt
(and when common sense tells you otherwise - e.g. don't grease your
stem clamp and handlebars), grease it and don't be shy about it.

beeswax is optional, but may be used anywhere that you might want a
little extra stick-um on bolts/parts that are prone to loosening-up/
backing-out a bit over time.  personally, i've never used it, but i've
never had anything so incorrigible that it needed to be tamed by
beeswax. it's a nice, natural alternative to loc-tite and more
aggressive thread lockers.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1996 Rivendale

2011-05-03 Thread Thaddeus
Posting has been removed.  I hope they either realized what they were
sitting on, or the original owner was reconnected with their bike.
Those kinds of adds always give me the willies.

On May 3, 9:27 am, Leslie  wrote:
> $200??    Hope it's not stolen!  If honestly for sale, I'd grab it
> just to save it
>
> On May 3, 2:09 am, Thaddeus  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all:
>
> > I just came across this amusing post on the Boston Craigslist.
>
> >http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/bik/2358812458.html
>
> > Obviously no relation to the seller.  Seems curious at best...

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and The Weather...

2011-05-03 Thread Norman
The decks are cleared and I'll be there.  I'm also staying at the
Sherwood.  My only regret is I had to take off the VO Zep. fenders
from my Hillborne as they were, as put on, too annoying.  I'll try
again another time or perhaps order the longboards.  I'll expect to
get muddy.
I think there was a post about someone needing a ride.  I'm in
northern New Jersey not too far from NYC so if someone still needs
one, let me know.
Norman Rosenblum

On May 3, 7:39 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 20:46 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
> > Attention Riv Rally East Riders:
>
> > The Wellsboro PA weather forecast for the coming weekend (as of Monday
> > evening) indicates a 30% chance of rain.
> > According to my math, that translates to a 70% chance of NO RAIN... So
> > as of this moment Riv Rally East is ON
>
> > Please confirm if you will be joining us; otherwise please don't
> > forget to cancel your reservation.
>
> Thanks.  I'll be there.

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[RBW] Re: A Riv supplement

2011-05-03 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 2, 2:51 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> Jan's very fond of them, too -- I'll wager he thinks they're the best
> cantilevers ever made -- and we know from his writings that he's into
> SERIOUS MAJOR braking.

i would take that bet.  there are some really good cantilever brakes
out there if the primary concern is braking power, feel,
adjustability, ease of set-up - you know, the important stuff - rather
than whether they look nice.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 1996 Rivendale

2011-05-03 Thread Alex Zeibot
Should ask the seller for a serial number on the bottom of BB and run it by 
Rivbike. 

On May 3, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Leslie  wrote:

> $200??Hope it's not stolen!  If honestly for sale, I'd grab it
> just to save it
> 
> 
> 
> On May 3, 2:09 am, Thaddeus  wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> I just came across this amusing post on the Boston Craigslist.
>> 
>> http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/bik/2358812458.html
>> 
>> Obviously no relation to the seller.  Seems curious at best...
> 
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[RBW] Re: Grease and Beeswax

2011-05-03 Thread Brett Lindenbach
+1 to Patrick's advice.  I also just built my first bike (Riv Blériot) and 
sought advice on this from various sources.  The rules of thumb I used were:
1) grease where the threads are big and strong (like on a BB) or on 
unthreaded connections (e.g. stem into top tube).  I used Phil grease.
2) finer oil on smaller threads.  I used either Phil oil or Boeshield 
depending on my mood.
3) wax on things that I want to grip tight but may want to easily remove or 
adjust.  I didn't have any beeswax, but happened to have some Akempucky 
Bench Lube Tub (for woodworking), which contains a mixture of waxes (bee and 
others).  Works fine.
4) do nothing on metal bolt that contact teflon-coated nuts.
The only thing I would do different would have been to use less grease on my 
bar-end shifters.  One of them just loosened and popped out of my bar during 
a recent tour.
Good luck with the build!
Brett

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grease and Beeswax

2011-05-03 Thread Alex Zeibot
I use Phil Wood waterproof grease.  In my opinion it's the best out there. 

On May 3, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Patrick in VT  wrote:

> On May 2, 5:22 pm, Alex  wrote:
> 
>> I'm building up a bike from scratch for the first time in my life
>> (exciting!) and I have a question about grease and beeswax.
> 
> cool. no better way to learn about your bike.
> 
> you want to grease just about everything - all threaded bolts and
> anywhere metal contacts metal.  some subscribe to different schools of
> thought regarding things like greasing bb spindles, but when in doubt
> (and when common sense tells you otherwise - e.g. don't grease your
> stem clamp and handlebars), grease it and don't be shy about it.
> 
> beeswax is optional, but may be used anywhere that you might want a
> little extra stick-um on bolts/parts that are prone to loosening-up/
> backing-out a bit over time.  personally, i've never used it, but i've
> never had anything so incorrigible that it needed to be tamed by
> beeswax. it's a nice, natural alternative to loc-tite and more
> aggressive thread lockers.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle Commute on Copper Hilsen

2011-05-03 Thread Rex Kerr
Notice how I'd used the word "today"? Yeah, took me a while too, and I was
anxious to share my finding with somebody! :)  Glad it helped!
On May 1, 2011 11:50 PM, "Brian Hanson"  wrote:
> Rex - wow - I can't believe I didn't just work that one out on my own. I
> changed the pump around, and it's perfect! Thanks for pointing this out! I
> really value the varied knowledge and readiness to share tips that the
fine
> folks in this group have!
>
> Brian
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Rex Kerr  wrote:
>
>> I have that same pump on my Trek 520 and kept having trouble with it
>> falling out when I'd bump it or try to lift the bike... I'd assumed that
the
>> curved end in the handle was intended to fit the profile of the seat tube
>> (as you have it installed) and the little hole in the head was intended
to
>> go in the pump peg on the head tube... today I noticed that the handle
also
>> had an indentation in it, so I turned it around and put the soft rubber
head
>> against the seat tube and the handle against the pump peg and now it's
rock
>> solid... I can lift the bike under the top tube near the rear, and I can
>> bump it quite hard and it doesn't move at all. If you're having similar
>> problems you might want to try turning it around.
>>
>> -Rex
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Stonehog  wrote:
>>
>>> It's a 59cm, and I have a Periscopa raising the bars about 4cm above
seat
>>> level.
>>>
>>> Mobile Brian Hanson
>>>
>>> On Apr 29, 2011, at 6:07 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Brian,
>>> >
>>> > Looks great! Is that a single tt 56? How much stem are you showing?
>>> > I've been obsessed lately thinking i've got my bars too high
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 29, 3:54 am, Brian Hanson  wrote:
>>> >> I had a nice ride home tonight between the thunderstorms. I've put
the
>>> >> basket back on the Hilsen, and love the utility. The Jack Brown blues
>>> are
>>> >> still going strong with zero flats in 2 years of hard use. The rear
>>> has no
>>> >> tread left, but still gives plenty of grip. Ahh - a nice prequel to
>>> Bike
>>> >> Month!
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5668565901/in/set-7215762648130
.
>>> ..
>>> >>
>>> >> Brian
>>> >> Seattle, WA
>>> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: good experience buying romulus from rbw owners bunch forum

2011-05-03 Thread Tim Whalen
Me too!  I had a great experience buying my sought after Rambouilet from Don
Pearsall in NM.  I also appreciate all the help many on the list gave me,
spontaneously linking to geometry charts for the Rambouillet and Romulus for
example.  A very pleasant experience all around.  Thanks!
Tim

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Bryan Edgar  wrote:

> I'll chime in on this topic as well.  I bought Rick Houston's 64cm
> Quickbeam a couple of weeks ago.  Great guy and great bike!  I feel
> like I bought a bike and made a friend at the same time.  Here's the
> bike: http://tinyurl.com/3zm5uby
>
> Bryan
>
>
> On May 2, 10:07 pm, Ray Shine  wrote:
> > Yeah, great group. I have purchased two bikes from list members, and LOTS
> of components and other bling.  I trust all of 'em. Much better than the
> 'bay.
> >
> > >
> > >From: rex 
> > >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > >Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 6:50 PM
> > >Subject: [RBW] good experience buying romulus from rbw owners bunch
> forum
> >
> > >hi everyone!
> > >i just recieved a 59cm rivendell romulus that i bought from fellow
> > >list member mike williams, and it is great. im very glad to be a part
> > >of such a great group of trustworthy people. my transaction went very
> > >smoothly and my bike was packaged very well. cheers to mike!
> > >thanks for your time
> > >joe rex kelly
> >
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[RBW] Re: Which Riv for..... ???

2011-05-03 Thread Jim M.
Sauron link:  http://www.sheldonbrown.com/nanodrive/rivendell-sauron.jpg

On May 2, 9:54 pm, "Jim M."  wrote:
> Now if they really made the Sauron that Sheldon Brown created, I'd get
> another Riv.  ;-)
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Re: [RBW] Re: good experience buying romulus from rbw owners bunch forum

2011-05-03 Thread Bruce
I guess maybe 1/2 this group has bought something from someone else on the 
list. Two bikes, a frame set, couple of saddles, saddle/handlebar bags, 
knickers, caps, jerseys, a courier bag, who knows what else.

Good group of people..


>
>From: Bryan Edgar 
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 8:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: good experience buying romulus from rbw owners bunch 
>forum
>
>I'll chime in on this topic as well.  I bought Rick Houston's 64cm
>Quickbeam a couple of weeks ago.  Great guy and great bike!  I feel
>like I bought a bike and made a friend at the same time.  Here's the
>bike: http://tinyurl.com/3zm5uby
>
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[RBW] Re: Grease and Beeswax

2011-05-03 Thread William
I beeswax all M4 bolts that go into the frame.  H20 bolts, any ranck
or fender bolts, and downtube friction shifter bolts.  Grease for
everything else.

On May 3, 6:46 am, Alex Zeibot  wrote:
> I use Phil Wood waterproof grease.  In my opinion it's the best out there.
>
> On May 3, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Patrick in VT  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 5:22 pm, Alex  wrote:
>
> >> I'm building up a bike from scratch for the first time in my life
> >> (exciting!) and I have a question about grease and beeswax.
>
> > cool. no better way to learn about your bike.
>
> > you want to grease just about everything - all threaded bolts and
> > anywhere metal contacts metal.  some subscribe to different schools of
> > thought regarding things like greasing bb spindles, but when in doubt
> > (and when common sense tells you otherwise - e.g. don't grease your
> > stem clamp and handlebars), grease it and don't be shy about it.
>
> > beeswax is optional, but may be used anywhere that you might want a
> > little extra stick-um on bolts/parts that are prone to loosening-up/
> > backing-out a bit over time.  personally, i've never used it, but i've
> > never had anything so incorrigible that it needed to be tamed by
> > beeswax. it's a nice, natural alternative to loc-tite and more
> > aggressive thread lockers.
>
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RE: [RBW] Re: FS: 1996 Rivendale

2011-05-03 Thread Joe Bartoe
It's been deleted already! Interesting.

Joe

> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 1996 Rivendale
> From: veloban...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 08:29:52 -0500
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> Should ask the seller for a serial number on the bottom of BB and run it by 
> Rivbike. 
> 
> On May 3, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Leslie  wrote:
> 
> > $200??Hope it's not stolen!  If honestly for sale, I'd grab it
> > just to save it
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On May 3, 2:09 am, Thaddeus  wrote:
> >> Hi all:
> >> 
> >> I just came across this amusing post on the Boston Craigslist.
> >> 
> >> http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/bik/2358812458.html
> >> 
> >> Obviously no relation to the seller.  Seems curious at best...
> > 
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[RBW] Re: Grizzly Peak Century on the Hilsen

2011-05-03 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 2, 8:47 pm, Tony  wrote:
> Where else would you put the wool arm warmers,  knee
> warmers and socks needed at the beginning of the day?

jersey pockets.  i'm partial to street clothes myself, but jerseys -
because of the pockets - are really functional and my first choice if
I'm doing a serious ride.

I'm pretty sure i could fit arm/knee warmers and gloves in one pocket;
a phone, camera and spare tube in another, and 5 larabars/snacks in
the third.  multi-tool/patch-kit and another tube in a small underseat
bag.  I think I've rolled pretty far that way.

granted, if you have a bag, you might as well use it.  really, the
only disadvantage of bags is over-packing them.  or if you have
friends who are partial to loading them with rocks when you are not
looking at rest stops.

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[RBW] Re: good experience buying romulus from rbw owners bunch forum

2011-05-03 Thread William
I've bought seatposts, F+R ders, hubs, brake calipers, a set of tires,
and probably a couple other things I've forgotten.  All have gone
well.  I have very little doubt that a 58cm Rambu will come up when I
have the appropriate number of discretionary dollars on-hand, someday
in the future as well.

On May 3, 9:13 am, Bruce  wrote:
> I guess maybe 1/2 this group has bought something from someone else on the 
> list. Two bikes, a frame set, couple of saddles, saddle/handlebar bags, 
> knickers, caps, jerseys, a courier bag, who knows what else.
>
> Good group of people..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >From: Bryan Edgar 
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 8:28 AM
> >Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: good experience buying romulus from rbw owners bunch 
> >forum
>
> >I'll chime in on this topic as well.  I bought Rick Houston's 64cm
> >Quickbeam a couple of weeks ago.  Great guy and great bike!  I feel
> >like I bought a bike and made a friend at the same time.  Here's the
> >bike:http://tinyurl.com/3zm5uby

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[RBW] Re: Grizzly Peak Century on the Hilsen

2011-05-03 Thread William
I wore a light short sleeve jersey, a light long sleeve jersey over
that, and brought a windbreaker.  The windbreaker lived in a jersey
pocket all day.  The longsleeve jersey came off and got stuffed into
the handlebar bag at mile 35 or so.  Doug's sweatsoaked wool
longsleeve baselayer went into MY handlebar bag at the top of McEwen
(harumph!) and ended up going home with me.  I guess that was the
equivalent of rocks.  I had a phone and wallet in one small pocket and
the camera in the other small pocket of the Hbar bag.  A canister of
trailmix and three larabars were tossed in there too with an extra
tube and keys.

On May 3, 9:38 am, Patrick in VT  wrote:
> On May 2, 8:47 pm, Tony  wrote:
>
> > Where else would you put the wool arm warmers,  knee
> > warmers and socks needed at the beginning of the day?
>
> jersey pockets.  i'm partial to street clothes myself, but jerseys -
> because of the pockets - are really functional and my first choice if
> I'm doing a serious ride.
>
> I'm pretty sure i could fit arm/knee warmers and gloves in one pocket;
> a phone, camera and spare tube in another, and 5 larabars/snacks in
> the third.  multi-tool/patch-kit and another tube in a small underseat
> bag.  I think I've rolled pretty far that way.
>
> granted, if you have a bag, you might as well use it.  really, the
> only disadvantage of bags is over-packing them.  or if you have
> friends who are partial to loading them with rocks when you are not
> looking at rest stops.

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[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-03 Thread Mike S
That's interesting, I actually find the Marathon Supreme 35mm's to be
really zippy on my QB, more so than the Jack Browns I had on at first.
That might just be the $138/pair premium biasing my perception
though...

The Schwalbes really are solid tires, especially in the wet and
considering the toughness factor. I'll be interested to see how much
treadlife they have, considering the pricetag. At about 1200 now,
hoping they make it to at least 4000.

And BOO to Paselas. Though I may try to boot the sidewall and ride
them into the ground, just out of spite.

On May 2, 10:30 pm, Mike  wrote:
> I've complained about problems with Paselas and JB sidewalls a bunch
> here. I don't see myself going back to either tire in the future.
> Right now all my bikes have Marathons of various sizes. The QB has
> Marathon Supremes. When the Hilsen is back on the road I'm hoping to
> put some Duremes on it. Even the new rando bike is sporting Marathons
> (32s). Sure, they're sluggish but I only really notice when riding
> with others. Most of the time I ride alone and they feel fine.
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and The Weather...

2011-05-03 Thread Bruce Oppenheim
Rick and I are in... we are also staying at Sherwood.
Regards,
Bruce

On May 2, 11:46 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> Attention Riv Rally East Riders:
>
> The Wellsboro PA weather forecast for the coming weekend (as of Monday
> evening) indicates a 30% chance of rain.
> According to my math, that translates to a 70% chance of NO RAIN... So
> as of this moment Riv Rally East is ON
>
> Please confirm if you will be joining us; otherwise please don't
> forget to cancel your reservation.
>
> The schedule:
>
> I will arrive Friday evening (exact time TBD; aiming for around dinner
> time).  I am staying at the Sherwood Motel.
> My cell is (908) 303-6887
>
> SAT AM - Assemble at Wellsboro Village Green at 8 AM.  We will depart
> shortly thereafter.  Our Saturday route will feature the 44 mile
> Wellsboro Route, which takes us down through the Pine Creek Gorge.
> (see 
> link:http://pinecreekbikerides.com/Bike%20Rides/Wellsboro%20Loop/Wellsboro...).
>
> Sunday - Riders' choice:  There are several great rides in the area
> (see web site -http://pinecreekbikerides.com), I thought we'd allow
> group consensus to determine the route; otherwise I might recommend
> one of the Colton Point loops (since these provide options for those
> who need to leave earlier on Sunday to travel home).  Personally I
> plan to depart for home in the early afternoon, so I hope to get in a
> 4-5 hour ride in the morning.
>
> I plan to bring light rain gear, but rain or shine, I am REALLY
> looking forward to this weekend; I hope you are too.  I am trying to
> contact local rider Bill Yacovissi, who hopefully can give us an idea
> of the dirt road conditions.
>
> For those planning to arrive on Friday, if you would like to meet on
> Friday evening, give a call or send a text once you arrive... I will
> try to stick to my self-imposed curfew of 11 PM.
>
> Hope to see you at the Rally!!!
>
> Bobby B
>
> On May 2, 2:52 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 07:37 -0700, Bruce O. wrote:
> > > Hi Bob,
>
> > > What is the status on the ride? My buddy (Rick) and I are still
> > > planning to come.
>
> > > As of today (Mon)  looks like (rain) ... Sat. 30%, Sun. 40%.
>
> > > Also - if the ride is on, do you have a schedule of the events?
>
> > The status of the rally is getting very close to a critical, have to
> > know RIGHT NOW question.  If it's going to be postponed, hotel
> > reservations will have to be canceled, and that requires lead time.- Hide 
> > quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grease and Beeswax

2011-05-03 Thread omnigrid
phil wood grease is nothing special. it's just marine bearing grease. or
pretty much the same stuff that park tools sells in bike shops.

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Alex Zeibot  wrote:

> I use Phil Wood waterproof grease.  In my opinion it's the best out there.
>
> On May 3, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Patrick in VT  wrote:
>
> > On May 2, 5:22 pm, Alex  wrote:
> >
> >> I'm building up a bike from scratch for the first time in my life
> >> (exciting!) and I have a question about grease and beeswax.
> >
> > cool. no better way to learn about your bike.
> >
> > you want to grease just about everything - all threaded bolts and
> > anywhere metal contacts metal.  some subscribe to different schools of
> > thought regarding things like greasing bb spindles, but when in doubt
> > (and when common sense tells you otherwise - e.g. don't grease your
> > stem clamp and handlebars), grease it and don't be shy about it.
> >
> > beeswax is optional, but may be used anywhere that you might want a
> > little extra stick-um on bolts/parts that are prone to loosening-up/
> > backing-out a bit over time.  personally, i've never used it, but i've
> > never had anything so incorrigible that it needed to be tamed by
> > beeswax. it's a nice, natural alternative to loc-tite and more
> > aggressive thread lockers.
> >
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Re: [RBW] Which Riv for..... ???

2011-05-03 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/2/11 8:51 PM, Leslie at leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:

> Okay, this evening I was bouncing through old tunes I liked on
> YouTube, and happened back across an earlier bicycle video of Danny
> MacAskill from a couple of years ago that I'd really enjoyed (with a
> cool tune), but that led to a newer video from him I'd not yet seen
> before...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj6ho1-G6tw&feature=fvwrel
> 
> So that began my current pondering...  what Rivendell would be what
> you'd want to use if you were trying stuff like this?   Would you want
> a Bombadil or a Hunqapillar, or would that be too heavy?  Would a
> mixte be a better choice?  Perhaps a Betty Foy w/ a trimmed down seat-
> tube?

Wow.  Yeah.  If.  ;^)

IF I had those skills, which I most decidedly do not, I wouldn't hesitate to
run any of the Riv frames. My guess would be that you would go through more
wheelsets than anything. But, steel, mmm perfect for serious,
repeated stresses. 

Of course, I'd have to veer from the teachings in that I'd want the smallest
frame I could get my hands on, with the clearance for the largest possible
tires.  Disc brakes wouldn't be an option, so I'd want something that took
canti's (and would have to go back to the old trailsin' trick of tarring the
rims for extra sticky).  I'd think the best tire size to use would be a 26",
as that's where you are going to find the big round profiles which give all
that pavement slapping goodness when you are running 10-15 lbs o' pressure.

So, I think you are looking at an Atlantis.

Ohand the technique that Danny has. ;^)


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[RBW] SimpleGreen

2011-05-03 Thread Pondero
There's an update in today's Rivendell News about the SimpleOne.

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/355

If/when they offer a 650B version, I'll no longer be able to resist.
In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the stories those of you who
are going to add one to your stable.

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[RBW] Re: SimpleGreen

2011-05-03 Thread newenglandbike
They sound great.Noticed this from the post: "Wheel particulars.
We'll have a few wheel options--cheap bolt-ons, fancier q/r style."

I'm psyched if this means what I think it means I was hoping
they'd bring back the Suzue QR free/free hubs.


-Matt



On May 3, 2:01 pm, Pondero  wrote:
> There's an update in today's Rivendell News about the SimpleOne.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/355
>
> If/when they offer a 650B version, I'll no longer be able to resist.
> In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the stories those of you who
> are going to add one to your stable.

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[RBW] Re: SimpleGreen

2011-05-03 Thread newenglandbike
PS the headbadge is so good


On May 3, 2:14 pm, newenglandbike  wrote:
> They sound great.    Noticed this from the post: "Wheel particulars.
> We'll have a few wheel options--cheap bolt-ons, fancier q/r style."
>
> I'm psyched if this means what I think it means I was hoping
> they'd bring back the Suzue QR free/free hubs.
>
> -Matt
>
> On May 3, 2:01 pm, Pondero  wrote:
>
> > There's an update in today's Rivendell News about the SimpleOne.
>
> >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/355
>
> > If/when they offer a 650B version, I'll no longer be able to resist.
> > In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the stories those of you who
> > are going to add one to your stable.

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[RBW] Re: SimpleGreen

2011-05-03 Thread William
On the headbadge, is that a pterodactyl on the right?  Or do the kids
call those pteranodons now?  Either way, you gotta love that.



On May 3, 11:16 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
> PS the headbadge is so good
>
> On May 3, 2:14 pm, newenglandbike  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > They sound great.    Noticed this from the post: "Wheel particulars.
> > We'll have a few wheel options--cheap bolt-ons, fancier q/r style."
>
> > I'm psyched if this means what I think it means I was hoping
> > they'd bring back the Suzue QR free/free hubs.
>
> > -Matt
>
> > On May 3, 2:01 pm, Pondero  wrote:
>
> > > There's an update in today's Rivendell News about the SimpleOne.
>
> > >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/355
>
> > > If/when they offer a 650B version, I'll no longer be able to resist.
> > > In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the stories those of you who
> > > are going to add one to your stable.

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[RBW] Re: Which Riv for..... ???

2011-05-03 Thread Leslie
Well, truth be told, IF, (and that's a *huge* IF), I was going to be
trying such (which I'm not), I'd probably not be using a Riv...

But, it's a fun bike video to watch and at least think in hypothetical
IF's about.   ;)

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Re: [RBW] SimpleGreen

2011-05-03 Thread nawrock



I have already added one to my stable.  Jumped on one of the dark maroon 
prototypes.  It is so awesome.  Just like the Quickbeam that it replaced. 

That headbadge looks great and cant wait to fill the blank space on my headtube 
with it.  It is just not right to ride a bike from Rivendell that does not have 
an awesome headbadge. 



Dave Nawrocki 
Fort Collins, CO 

- Original Message - 
From: "Pondero"  
To: "RBW Owners Bunch"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 12:01:53 PM 
Subject: [RBW] SimpleGreen 

There's an update in today's Rivendell News about the SimpleOne. 

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/355 

If/when they offer a 650B version, I'll no longer be able to resist. 
In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the stories those of you who 
are going to add one to your stable. 

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From: "Pondero"  
To: "RBW Owners Bunch"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 12:01:53 PM 
Subject: [RBW] SimpleGreen 

There's an update in today's Rivendell News about the SimpleOne. 

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/355 

If/when they offer a 650B version, I'll no longer be able to resist. 
In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the stories those of you who 
are going to add one to your stable. 

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[RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

2011-05-03 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
This is the stuff I mentioned previously:
http://www.campmor.com/birkenstock-cork-life-2-oz.shtml?source=CI&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=91642WC

If it's just a couple threads popping up on the sidewall, it seals 'em
down real well.  Slop some on both sides and boot it if there's a
concern.  Tyvex USPS Priority Mail bags work GREAT for that.


On May 3, 10:20 am, Mike S  wrote:
> That's interesting, I actually find the Marathon Supreme 35mm's to be
> really zippy on my QB, more so than the Jack Browns I had on at first.
> That might just be the $138/pair premium biasing my perception
> though...
>
> The Schwalbes really are solid tires, especially in the wet and
> considering the toughness factor. I'll be interested to see how much
> treadlife they have, considering the pricetag. At about 1200 now,
> hoping they make it to at least 4000.
>
> And BOO to Paselas. Though I may try to boot the sidewall and ride
> them into the ground, just out of spite.
>
> On May 2, 10:30 pm, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I've complained about problems with Paselas and JB sidewalls a bunch
> > here. I don't see myself going back to either tire in the future.
> > Right now all my bikes have Marathons of various sizes. The QB has
> > Marathon Supremes. When the Hilsen is back on the road I'm hoping to
> > put some Duremes on it. Even the new rando bike is sporting Marathons
> > (32s). Sure, they're sluggish but I only really notice when riding
> > with others. Most of the time I ride alone and they feel fine.
>
> > --mike

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[RBW] QB (58") For Sale

2011-05-03 Thread Tim Smith
I have a 58” Quickbeam for sale. It is repainted bright yellow (with a
white head tube and original Riv decals), and has Phil hubs, Tektro
sidepull brakes (canti bosses were removed before the repaint), new
rims. MKS quill pedals with toe clips and straps. Brooks B17 saddle.
Jack Brown 33.3 tires. Original cranks and BB, with little wear on
chain rings.

This bike is in pristine, like-new condition. Asking $1600. Email me
for pics and more specs, but please, serious inquiries only. Also,
would prefer not to ship. Buyer can pick up in Northern California
(Bay Area).


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[RBW] Re: QB (58") For Sale

2011-05-03 Thread Tim Smith
Of course I meant centimeters.

On May 3, 1:31 pm, Tim Smith  wrote:
> I have a 58” Quickbeam for sale. It is repainted bright yellow (with a
> white head tube and original Riv decals), and has Phil hubs, Tektro
> sidepull brakes (canti bosses were removed before the repaint), new
> rims. MKS quill pedals with toe clips and straps. Brooks B17 saddle.
> Jack Brown 33.3 tires. Original cranks and BB, with little wear on
> chain rings.
>
> This bike is in pristine, like-new condition. Asking $1600. Email me
> for pics and more specs, but please, serious inquiries only. Also,
> would prefer not to ship. Buyer can pick up in Northern California
> (Bay Area).

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[RBW] Grant's "Velosophy"...

2011-05-03 Thread Rene Sterental
Amazon just confirmed that they have a confirmed shipping date for Grant
Petersen "Velosophy".

Estimated arrival date: June 03 2011 - July 13 2011. I placed the order in
January when I accidentally discovered it.

René

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[RBW] Herse/Riv apercu

2011-05-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I said yesterday how well the Herse fits and feels. Today I took a
break from work and chores for a short, 14 mile, therapeutic ride on
Riv Custom #3, just errands and rambling around Rio Rancho, some
gratuitous hills and some expected wind, and realized again just how
sublimely perfect my Rivs fit and feel. True benchmarks.

Someone puhLEEEZ make a nice, supple 28, OK, I'll put up with a true
32, for 559 wheels. But the Turbos, although clanky on our 5" wide
expansion cracks, feel smoother than their width ought to feel.

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[RBW] Re: Grant's "Velosophy"...

2011-05-03 Thread William
I'd read it.  Heck, I'd probably even buy it and read it and give it
to somebubba else to read.

On May 3, 2:24 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Amazon just confirmed that they have a confirmed shipping date for Grant
> Petersen "Velosophy".
>
> Estimated arrival date: June 03 2011 - July 13 2011. I placed the order in
> January when I accidentally discovered it.
>
> René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grease and Beeswax

2011-05-03 Thread John Speare
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:14 AM, omnigrid  wrote:
>
> phil wood grease is nothing special. it's just marine bearing grease. or 
> pretty much the same stuff that park tools sells in bike shops.
>

Indeed. For bikey applications, I've never seen a reason not to use
the cheap tub-o-grease from the auto parts store.

For m5 bolts that I want to stay put (upside-down fender connections)
I just use the blue loctite. Otherwise

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[RBW] Re: Grease and Beeswax

2011-05-03 Thread William
"I've never seen a reason not to use
the cheap tub-o-grease from the auto parts store"

Except the especially stinky varieties.  Some I've encountered are
pretty rank, while others are nowhere near as terrible.



On May 3, 4:40 pm, John Speare  wrote:
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:14 AM, omnigrid  wrote:
>
> > phil wood grease is nothing special. it's just marine bearing grease. or 
> > pretty much the same stuff that park tools sells in bike shops.
>
> Indeed. For bikey applications, I've never seen a reason not to use
> the cheap tub-o-grease from the auto parts store.
>
> For m5 bolts that I want to stay put (upside-down fender connections)
> I just use the blue loctite. Otherwise
>
> --
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[RBW] Re: SimpleGreen

2011-05-03 Thread EricP
Can't help this - apologies in advance -

"SimpleGreen is made of people!"

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On May 3, 2:36 pm, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:
> I have already added one to my stable.  Jumped on one of the dark maroon 
> prototypes.  It is so awesome.  Just like the Quickbeam that it replaced.
>
> That headbadge looks great and cant wait to fill the blank space on my 
> headtube with it.  It is just not right to ride a bike from Rivendell that 
> does not have an awesome headbadge.
>
> Dave Nawrocki
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pondero" 
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 12:01:53 PM
> Subject: [RBW] SimpleGreen
>
> There's an update in today's Rivendell News about the SimpleOne.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/355
>
> If/when they offer a 650B version, I'll no longer be able to resist.
> In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the stories those of you who
> are going to add one to your stable.
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> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
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> Subject: [RBW] SimpleGreen
>
> There's an update in today's Rivendell News about the SimpleOne.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/355
>
> If/when they offer a 650B version, I'll no longer be able to resist.
> In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the stories those of you who
> are going to add one to your stable.
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[RBW] Bike basket water bottle holder?

2011-05-03 Thread climbthemtns
I saw a member's photo last year that had a nifty (I think it was
insulated) water bottle holder that attaches to the front basket that
I can use now.
A Web search doesn't bring it up.

???

TIA

Michael D.
Walnut Creek, CA

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[RBW] Lighter Wheel Set Question

2011-05-03 Thread Bruce Oppenheim
I would like to ride a lighter wheels/tires set on my A. Homer Hilsen
at times when just riding paved roads.

I have a pair of Mavic open pro wheels from another bike with road
bike hub spacing (130). My A. Homer Hilsen is (135). Since the Mavic
hub spacing is a bit narrower, my question is... will it hurt the
frame to squeeze the rear dropout to fit the smaller hub? I don't want
to stress the frame.

Thanks,
Bruce

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Re: [RBW] Lighter Wheel Set Question

2011-05-03 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/3/11 2:22 PM, Bruce Oppenheim at br...@ohiotravelbag.com wrote:

> I would like to ride a lighter wheels/tires set on my A. Homer Hilsen
> at times when just riding paved roads.
> 
> I have a pair of Mavic open pro wheels from another bike with road
> bike hub spacing (130). My A. Homer Hilsen is (135). Since the Mavic
> hub spacing is a bit narrower, my question is... will it hurt the
> frame to squeeze the rear dropout to fit the smaller hub? I don't want
> to stress the frame.

It would probably be easier to just add a couple 2.5 mm spacers (or even 2's
or 1.5's) to the axle.  That's what I did to use a stock DuraAce hub which
I'd been using on a 130 mm spaced frame.

I'm not sure I've ever heard a definitive word on whether the bending would
be bad, but it's easy enough to fix.

- jim

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Re: [RBW] Grant's "Velosophy"...

2011-05-03 Thread Rex Kerr
Any chance for a Kindle version? :)
On May 3, 2011 2:24 PM, "Rene Sterental"  wrote:
> Amazon just confirmed that they have a confirmed shipping date for Grant
> Petersen "Velosophy".
>
> Estimated arrival date: June 03 2011 - July 13 2011. I placed the order in
> January when I accidentally discovered it.
>
> René
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[RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell Mixte

2011-05-03 Thread SMP
Geoff -- that looks amazing!  :D  Very nice.

On May 2, 11:03 pm, Geoff  wrote:
> Hi Sumehra,
>
> I'm still pretty new to this group, so I hope that this link will
> work:
>
> http://ImageEvent.com/gyuenfamily/karensbettyfoy
>
> I agree; when you're fortunate enough to get a really special bike
> like a Riv, it's nice to be able to personalize it and make it a
> little unique.  But, yours is above and beyond!
>
> On May 1, 6:51 pm, SMP  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks -- I'd love to see your wifes BF!  I think I have seen the
> > Cream + Light blue on Riv's site.  It's always nice to do something to
> > make it unlike any other bike.
>
> > On Apr 30, 3:56 pm, Geoff  wrote:
>
> > > Wow, gorgeous custom Riv mixte!  The special work done on your S&S
> > > couplers(carved hearts to match the lugs) is really icing on the
> > > cake!  My wife has a standard Betty Foy, but had it custom painted in
> > > cream with red panels and hearts.  It came out so beautifully, that
> > > Grant then had another Betty frame painted in cream with medium-light
> > > blue panels.  Slightly different, but along the same vein.  Whomever
> > > scooped up that frame was lucky!
>
> > > I really like the Paul canti brakes that you spec'd...very nice!
>
> > > On Apr 29, 6:58 pm, SMP  wrote:
>
> > > > Here are some 
> > > > photos...http://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/sets/72157626345789636/
>
> > > > Enjoy!

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[RBW] Re: Grant's "Velosophy"...

2011-05-03 Thread islaysteve
Boy, Amazon doesn't give him much love, do they?  No summary, no
image, nothin'.   I probably don't know the whole story.  Did GP post
anything about it on the site?

On May 3, 7:19 pm, William  wrote:
> I'd read it.  Heck, I'd probably even buy it and read it and give it
> to somebubba else to read.
>
> On May 3, 2:24 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Amazon just confirmed that they have a confirmed shipping date for Grant
> > Petersen "Velosophy".
>
> > Estimated arrival date: June 03 2011 - July 13 2011. I placed the order in
> > January when I accidentally discovered it.
>
> > René

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Re: [RBW] Lighter Wheel Set Question

2011-05-03 Thread cyclotourist
+1 for adding some spacers.  That's the best bet, although as mentioned,
re-dishing is required.   I went the extra step and swapped in a longer axle
at the time.  Sure, not necessary, but I needed a project...

Here's Mr. S. Brown's take on it:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html


On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:38 PM, CycloFiend  wrote:

> on 5/3/11 2:22 PM, Bruce Oppenheim at br...@ohiotravelbag.com wrote:
>
> > I would like to ride a lighter wheels/tires set on my A. Homer Hilsen
> > at times when just riding paved roads.
> >
> > I have a pair of Mavic open pro wheels from another bike with road
> > bike hub spacing (130). My A. Homer Hilsen is (135). Since the Mavic
> > hub spacing is a bit narrower, my question is... will it hurt the
> > frame to squeeze the rear dropout to fit the smaller hub? I don't want
> > to stress the frame.
>
> It would probably be easier to just add a couple 2.5 mm spacers (or even
> 2's
> or 1.5's) to the axle.  That's what I did to use a stock DuraAce hub which
> I'd been using on a 130 mm spaced frame.
>
> I'm not sure I've ever heard a definitive word on whether the bending would
> be bad, but it's easy enough to fix.
>
> - jim
>
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[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question

2011-05-03 Thread charlie
I did this on a 135mm frame I have making the 130mm rear hub I used  a
133mm. This is exactly what the Surly Crosscheck was advertised to be
able to do with its 132.5 mm spacing.fit either size axle. Chrome
moly steel bends quite a bit before it stays bent ( no pun intended )
so I would add spacers and as long as enough axle is in the dropout
you should be fine. It might be better to get a longer axle and add
the spacers rather than trying to make a short axle work although I
did it with my frame.

On May 3, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 5/3/11 2:22 PM, Bruce Oppenheim at br...@ohiotravelbag.com wrote:
>
> > I would like to ride a lighter wheels/tires set on my A. Homer Hilsen
> > at times when just riding paved roads.
>
> > I have a pair of Mavic open pro wheels from another bike with road
> > bike hub spacing (130). My A. Homer Hilsen is (135). Since the Mavic
> > hub spacing is a bit narrower, my question is... will it hurt the
> > frame to squeeze the rear dropout to fit the smaller hub? I don't want
> > to stress the frame.
>
> It would probably be easier to just add a couple 2.5 mm spacers (or even 2's
> or 1.5's) to the axle.  That's what I did to use a stock DuraAce hub which
> I'd been using on a 130 mm spaced frame.
>
> I'm not sure I've ever heard a definitive word on whether the bending would
> be bad, but it's easy enough to fix.
>
> - jim
>
> --
> Jim Edgar
> cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
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> Singlespeed - Working Bikes
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> how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines
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RE: [RBW] Lighter Wheel Set Question

2011-05-03 Thread Joe Bartoe
Hi Bruce,

The AHHs are supposed to have 132.5 spacing. Unless you've altered that, you 
should be able to use 130 OLD wheels just fine. I did that on mine.

Best, 

Joe

> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 14:22:23 -0700
> Subject: [RBW] Lighter Wheel Set Question
> From: br...@ohiotravelbag.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> I would like to ride a lighter wheels/tires set on my A. Homer Hilsen
> at times when just riding paved roads.
> 
> I have a pair of Mavic open pro wheels from another bike with road
> bike hub spacing (130). My A. Homer Hilsen is (135). Since the Mavic
> hub spacing is a bit narrower, my question is... will it hurt the
> frame to squeeze the rear dropout to fit the smaller hub? I don't want
> to stress the frame.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bruce
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Re: [RBW] Lighter Wheel Set Question

2011-05-03 Thread James Warren

My AHH has 135 mm spacing. It's from 2007.


On May 3, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Joe Bartoe wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
> 
> The AHHs are supposed to have 132.5 spacing. Unless you've altered that, you 
> should be able to use 130 OLD wheels just fine. I did that on mine.
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Joe
> 
> > Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 14:22:23 -0700
> > Subject: [RBW] Lighter Wheel Set Question
> > From: br...@ohiotravelbag.com
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > 
> > I would like to ride a lighter wheels/tires set on my A. Homer Hilsen
> > at times when just riding paved roads.
> > 
> > I have a pair of Mavic open pro wheels from another bike with road
> > bike hub spacing (130). My A. Homer Hilsen is (135). Since the Mavic
> > hub spacing is a bit narrower, my question is... will it hurt the
> > frame to squeeze the rear dropout to fit the smaller hub? I don't want
> > to stress the frame.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Bruce
> > 
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[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question

2011-05-03 Thread Leslie
The Ram had 132.5 spacing... the specs on the AHH say 135...



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[RBW] Re: Bike basket water bottle holder?

2011-05-03 Thread amoll68
Michael,

Is this what you were thinking of?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151498@N07/4338978587/in/set-72157623375460150/

They are available at many military bases, or online vendors:
http://www.camelbak.com/Military-Tactical/Accessories/Bottle-Pouch.aspx

This setup is still working great btw.

Best,
Alex


On May 3, 6:29 pm, climbthemtns  wrote:
> I saw a member's photo last year that had a nifty (I think it was
> insulated) water bottle holder that attaches to the front basket that
> I can use now.
> A Web search doesn't bring it up.
>
> ???
>
> TIA
>
> Michael D.
> Walnut Creek, CA

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[RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell Mixte

2011-05-03 Thread Geoff
Thanks, Sumehra!

My wife's Betty isn't nearly as amazing as your custom, but both she
and I are extremely pleased with the custom paint results.  And it
looks much, much better than our poor quality shots would indicate.
=)

On May 3, 2:38 pm, SMP  wrote:
> Geoff -- that looks amazing!  :D  Very nice.
>
> On May 2, 11:03 pm, Geoff  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Sumehra,
>
> > I'm still pretty new to this group, so I hope that this link will
> > work:
>
> >http://ImageEvent.com/gyuenfamily/karensbettyfoy
>
> > I agree; when you're fortunate enough to get a really special bike
> > like a Riv, it's nice to be able to personalize it and make it a
> > little unique.  But, yours is above and beyond!
>
> > On May 1, 6:51 pm, SMP  wrote:
>
> > > Thanks -- I'd love to see your wifes BF!  I think I have seen the
> > > Cream + Light blue on Riv's site.  It's always nice to do something to
> > > make it unlike any other bike.
>
> > > On Apr 30, 3:56 pm, Geoff  wrote:
>
> > > > Wow, gorgeous custom Riv mixte!  The special work done on your S&S
> > > > couplers(carved hearts to match the lugs) is really icing on the
> > > > cake!  My wife has a standard Betty Foy, but had it custom painted in
> > > > cream with red panels and hearts.  It came out so beautifully, that
> > > > Grant then had another Betty frame painted in cream with medium-light
> > > > blue panels.  Slightly different, but along the same vein.  Whomever
> > > > scooped up that frame was lucky!
>
> > > > I really like the Paul canti brakes that you spec'd...very nice!
>
> > > > On Apr 29, 6:58 pm, SMP  wrote:
>
> > > > > Here are some 
> > > > > photos...http://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/sets/72157626345789636/
>
> > > > > Enjoy!

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[RBW] Re: Bike basket water bottle holder?

2011-05-03 Thread Alex Moll

Hi Michael,

I hope I'm not presuming too much, but you may be thinking of my
"adventure touring" (ex mtb) bike.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151498@N07/4338978587/in/set-72157623375460150/

Camelbak MOLLE pouch, for the Camelbak Better Bottle (also great)
available at many military NEX/BX/PX and/or online vendors:
http://www.camelbak.com/Military-Tactical/Accessories/Bottle-Pouch.aspx

This setup is still working great - I really dig it.

Best,
Alex

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[RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question

2011-05-03 Thread Yogurt
Hello,

I'm new to the group.  I have a 2009 AHH and it has 135 spacing.  I
believe the Saluki which the AHH replaced had 132.5 spacing.

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Re: [RBW] Lighter Wheel Set Question

2011-05-03 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/3/11 9:03 PM, Joe Bartoe at jbar...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi Bruce,

The AHHs are supposed to have 132.5 spacing. Unless you've altered that, you
should be able to use 130 OLD wheels just fine. I did that on mine.

My aught-eight model has 135, dead-on.

- J

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[RBW] Re: Grease and Beeswax

2011-05-03 Thread Benedikt
Don't put any grease on the spindles.  The cranks slide onto them
"dry".  At least this is what my LBS told me.  The bolt which holds
them on should be greased though.

I'm one for Phil Wood grease or it's equivalent and Locktite Blue
"Designed for the locking and sealing of threaded fasteners which
require normal disassembly with standard hand tools" such as those
fender to rack bolts.  It's super annoying to have a fender start
rattling 1/2 way to work and be required to remove the wheel just to
tighten the bolt.

On May 2, 2:22 pm, Alex  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm building up a bike from scratch for the first time in my life
> (exciting!) and I have a question about grease and beeswax. I think I
> am solid on which parts of a bike should be greased - bb threads,
> seatpost, stem, screws that hold on cranks, threading where pedals
> screw in (am I missing any?). What I am less clear about is when one
> should apply beeswax to screws. I've watched all the Riv youtube
> videos and have seen beeswax applied at various points (to the screws
> that hold on downtube shifters, for instance), but I haven't found a
> comprehensive list. Is there any rhyme or reason to when one should be
> applying the stuff? Does it go on everything? Rear derailer? Brake
> bolts? Fender stays?
>
> Any guidance would be much appreciated.
>
> --Alex

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