[RBW] FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
Lots of discussion of use of an Atlantis on the Great Divide. Here is a handy accessory that will help tame the hills when loaded down a bit. ActionTec titanium cogset, 8 speed, 11-36 including 11 tooth/lockring, and all spacers. I've used this set about 100 miles on fire trails (some steep for me) and 300 miles touring. Works flawlessly. So well, in fact, that Russel is making me a 11-38 cogset (yes, I'm a weenie but I love to climb up those coast range logging roads we have here in Oregon and this cogset has made all the difference). Would serve well for extended touring with heavy loads. Weight approximately 200gr. http://www.actiontec.us/ticog.htm $175 delivered to CONUS. Richard Mitchell, Corvallis, Oregon (541) 752-0755 mitch...@onid.orst.edu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Atlantis 58cm For Sale on eBay
I am curious in what way the bike doesnt fit? I would like to know since I too am interested in an Atlantis. Surf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quick question re: SKS fender width
A while back I used the 35s on a bike with 28mm Michelin Hi-Lite Cross tires, and it worked just fine. Can't imagine Paselas not working if I had used them. Two factors come into play however; width obviously, but also the distance of the various bridges from the tire. On my bike, the chainstay, seatstay and fork crown were far enough away from the tire that I could slip in the fender and obtain decent concentricity. I tried a similar mix on another similar bike and could not make it work at all. Width factor was good in any case if that's your only concern - for me, the darn bridges got in the way. I suppose if it's a rivendell frame you're talking about it should be no problem, but why not move up to the 45s and have some room for "growth"? Marty On Nov 2, 12:58 am, rcnute wrote: > Will the 35mm fenders work okay with 28mm Paselas? I'd think so, but > thought some of you could confirm. Thanks! > > Ryan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Atlantis 58cm For Sale on eBay
After reading the ad, it sounds like the owner is saying that the top tube is too long, but it looks like he has 10cm stem. On Nov 2, 6:26 am, Surf wrote: > I am curious in what way the bike doesnt fit? I would like to know > since I too am interested in an Atlantis. > > Surf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quick question re: SKS fender width
I have 35mm fenders on my Canti Rom with 28mm Paselas. rcnute wrote: > Will the 35mm fenders work okay with 28mm Paselas? I'd think so, but > thought some of you could confirm. Thanks! > > Ryan > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Any one catch the Homer Hilsen in Outside Mag?
Yes, it was good to see the AHH mentioned.I believe someone may have posted something about this a few weeks ago. On the bright side of the commuting thing, I read somewhere that the number of folks riding bikes to work has increased 37% in the last 4 years, which is significant. On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, manueljohnacosta wrote: > Outside Magazine for October 2009, has highlighted the Homer Hilsen in > one of their articles about bike commuting. Interesting note, > G.Petersen has a good article pertaining to the one of the major > struggles of why most people don't bike for commuting purposes, > because it too hard. Good reading material. Seems like a good step for > integrating the idea of biking to the masses. > -Manny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
More great tips! Thanks Mitch. RS --- On Mon, 11/2/09, mitchelr wrote: From: mitchelr Subject: [RBW] FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36 To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:18 AM Lots of discussion of use of an Atlantis on the Great Divide. Here is a handy accessory that will help tame the hills when loaded down a bit. ActionTec titanium cogset, 8 speed, 11-36 including 11 tooth/lockring, and all spacers. I've used this set about 100 miles on fire trails (some steep for me) and 300 miles touring. Works flawlessly. So well, in fact, that Russel is making me a 11-38 cogset (yes, I'm a weenie but I love to climb up those coast range logging roads we have here in Oregon and this cogset has made all the difference). Would serve well for extended touring with heavy loads. Weight approximately 200gr. http://www.actiontec.us/ticog.htm $175 delivered to CONUS. Richard Mitchell, Corvallis, Oregon (541) 752-0755 mitch...@onid.orst.edu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: Riv. Cat # 8
Anyone looking to complete their collection? $5 + shipping ($1???) Try out that fancy Paypal "friends" option! -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Riv. Cat # 8
Oh, for the visual learners: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4068920298/ On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:50 AM, cyclotourist wrote: > Anyone looking to complete their collection? > > $5 + shipping ($1???) > > Try out that fancy Paypal "friends" option! > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, > scientist guy > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
What rear derailleur do you use to accomodate the 36 tooth cog? On Nov 2, 7:20 am, Ray Shine wrote: > More great tips! Thanks Mitch. > > RS > > --- On Mon, 11/2/09, mitchelr wrote: > > From: mitchelr > Subject: [RBW] FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36 > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" > Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:18 AM > > Lots of discussion of use of an Atlantis on the Great Divide. Here is > a handy accessory that will help tame the hills when loaded down a > bit. > > ActionTec titanium cogset, 8 speed, 11-36 including 11 tooth/lockring, > and all spacers. I've used this set about 100 miles on fire trails > (some steep for me) and 300 miles touring. Works flawlessly. So > well, in fact, that Russel is making me a 11-38 cogset (yes, I'm a > weenie but I love to climb up those coast range logging roads we have > here in Oregon and this cogset has made all the difference). Would > serve well for extended touring with heavy loads. Weight > approximately 200gr. http://www.actiontec.us/ticog.htm $175 > delivered to CONUS. Richard Mitchell, Corvallis, Oregon (541) > 752-0755 mitch...@onid.orst.edu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
Mitch: Thanks for the link. I was unaware of this source. I only wear out 15-17-19 cogs and it burns me to have to buy a complete cassette. With 8sp Shimano stuff getting more rare, I'll try Ti next time. dougP On Nov 2, 1:18 am, mitchelr wrote: > Lots of discussion of use of an Atlantis on the Great Divide. Here is > a handy accessory that will help tame the hills when loaded down a > bit. > > ActionTec titanium cogset, 8 speed, 11-36 including 11 tooth/lockring, > and all spacers. I've used this set about 100 miles on fire trails > (some steep for me) and 300 miles touring. Works flawlessly. So > well, in fact, that Russel is making me a 11-38 cogset (yes, I'm a > weenie but I love to climb up those coast range logging roads we have > here in Oregon and this cogset has made all the difference). Would > serve well for extended touring with heavy loads. Weight > approximately 200gr. http://www.actiontec.us/ticog.htm $175 > delivered to CONUS. Richard Mitchell, Corvallis, Oregon (541) > 752-0755 mitch...@onid.orst.edu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 11:00 -0800, doug peterson wrote: > Mitch: > > Thanks for the link. I was unaware of this source. I only wear out > 15-17-19 cogs and it burns me to have to buy a complete cassette. > With 8sp Shimano stuff getting more rare, I'll try Ti next time. But my god they are expensive! $177 for the cheapest, up to $280. That's just breathtaking. And, they all start with an 11. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
I agree, though compared to the almost $500 you can pay for a 2009 Campagnolo Super Record 11 Cassette, the ActionTec Cassettes almost seem like a bargain! Dustin > From: Steve Palincsar > Reply-To: > Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:29:35 -0500 > To: > Subject: [RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36 > > > On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 11:00 -0800, doug peterson wrote: >> Mitch: >> >> Thanks for the link. I was unaware of this source. I only wear out >> 15-17-19 cogs and it burns me to have to buy a complete cassette. >> With 8sp Shimano stuff getting more rare, I'll try Ti next time. > > But my god they are expensive! $177 for the cheapest, up to $280. > That's just breathtaking. And, they all start with an 11. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 11:35 -0800, Dustin Sharp wrote: > I agree, though compared to the almost $500 you can pay for a 2009 > Campagnolo Super Record 11 Cassette, the ActionTec Cassettes almost seem > like a bargain! You all will know the day I buy a Campagnolo Super Record 11 cassette by the dramatic climate change it will take for hell to freeze over. 8=) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
The Shimano XTR 970 9 speed cassette (224 g) is $270 for another example. IIRC, only the largest 4 cogs are Ti, where with Action Tec, all are Ti, and replaceable. Both are pricey, but if your budget allows, Action Tec has some nice goodies. For the budget conscious, the Sram PG-980 (382 g) gives great service and goes for only $69. The XTR costs $1.27 for each gram you save. That's more than Kobe beef, I think From: Dustin Sharp To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 1:35:29 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36 I agree, though compared to the almost $500 you can pay for a 2009 Campagnolo Super Record 11 Cassette, the ActionTec Cassettes almost seem like a bargain! Dustin > From: Steve Palincs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] an imitation or just a coincidence?
don't know what to think about this one. Introducing The Sam Houston bike from Violet Crown Cycles: http://www.violetcrowncycles.com/samhouston.php --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Atlantis 58cm For Sale on eBay
I find it hard to believe that someone would drop 3500.00 and not measure his pbh and read the Riv sites frame sizing guide. The price you pay for assuming. I feel bad for the ol lad. It will be a good deal for someone. Surf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: For Sale: Bay Area Rivendell Bleriot, 59 cm
Pre-Thanksgiving Holiday Special $1300 picked up, $1400 shipped. On Oct 29, 7:54 am, eflayer wrote: > Halloween special > > $1400 picked up, $1500 shipped > > On Oct 27, 12:15 pm, eflayer wrote: > > > > > For Sale: Bay Area RivendellBleriot, 59 cm > > Built up and ridden less than 100 miles. I like it a lot, but have > > moved more toward my long wheel base recumbent. > > Handspun Velocity Dyad rims laced to Deore LX hubs, > > Nifty Swifty tires installed plus one extra new one > > Nitto 44 Noodles > > Nitto Techno Deluxe 9 cm (also have a 10 cm if you prefer) > > 9 speed drive train with DA bar end shifters > > 11-34 cassette > > Sugino 170 mm 34-48 compact double crank > > Ultegra front derailleur > > Deore XT rear derailleur > > Bottle cages > > DA seat post > > Brooks B17 Honey > > Tektro R556 long long reach brakes > > Frameset is perfect except for a couple of pinpoints where the cream > > hits the blue on the headtube. > > All other parts in fine condition with exception of seatpost below my > > insert line. > > > Photo shows it with black cork bar tape, but have cork colored cork > > tape ready for next wrap. > > > I know my crank choice is not everyone’s cup of tea, so could install > > square taper new Tiagra triple with 170 arms and 52.42.30 rings. Or > > would be willing to delete crank if you choose. > > > This looks like the typical fine lookingBleriot, but I have a photo > > of it to send if you request. Frogs in photo not included. > > > Or here it is on flikr:http://www.flickr.com/photos/44069...@n04/4050129051/ > > > I prefer to conduct biz via email rather than on the forum. eddie dot > > flayer at att dot net > > > $1500 picked up in Berkeley. Not considering shipping at this time.- Hide > > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence?
hmm . ... framebuilder in austin, TX designs and offers a handbuilt frameset with choice of geometry/tubes depending on intended use - touring, sport (whatever that means) and cx - and names the bike after a texan hero. imitation or coincidence? not sure i'd use either of those words. unless sam houston and sam hillborne are distant cousins or something ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence?
I agree the color makes it look Atlantis like, but then again, Celeste/sea-foam whatever it is didn't exactly start with Rivendell. D > From: Patrick in VT > Reply-To: > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:47 -0800 (PST) > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence? > > > hmm . ... framebuilder in austin, TX designs and offers a handbuilt > frameset with choice of geometry/tubes depending on intended use - > touring, sport (whatever that means) and cx - and names the bike after > a texan hero. > > imitation or coincidence? not sure i'd use either of those words. > unless sam houston and sam hillborne are distant cousins or > something ;) > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Atlantis 58cm For Sale on eBay
I find this odd, too. The seller starts out by saying don't assume a bike fits you even if it is the same manufacturer. While honest and correct, who'd buy it other than folks who have sat on an Atlantis. Interesting. A real beauty, too, that Atlantis. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Dustin Sharp wrote: > > I agree, though compared to the almost $500 you can pay for a 2009 > Campagnolo Super Record 11 Cassette, the ActionTec Cassettes almost seem > like a bargain! > First, a vociferation: Man! $500 for a cassette! Is there a real reason (precious materials; precision workmanship; huge demand) for this, or is this an extreme case of vanity pricing? Or does Campy sell in a surreal alternate universe? Second: how well do ti cogs wear, compared to steel? And lastly: again, Man! I'm glad I have only one cog (or perhaps two) per bike. Even at $30 each for a good one, that's only $330 for eleven of them, plus a bit for little hardware bits! -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence?
Color similarity with the Atlantis aside, what strikes me is the fact that the Sam Houston shares Sam Hilborne's significantly up-sloping top tube (not to mention cantilevers, gobs of tire clearance, and all- rounder aspirations). I don't know whether it's an "imitation" or just curiously "coincidental," but the similarities are clearly there in both moniker and design. On Nov 2, 1:57 pm, Dustin Sharp wrote: > I agree the color makes it look Atlantis like, but then again, > Celeste/sea-foam whatever it is didn't exactly start with Rivendell. > > D > > > From: Patrick in VT > > Reply-To: > > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:47 -0800 (PST) > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > Subject: [RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence? > > > hmm . ... framebuilder in austin, TX designs and offers a handbuilt > > frameset with choice of geometry/tubes depending on intended use - > > touring, sport (whatever that means) and cx - and names the bike after > > a texan hero. > > > imitation or coincidence? not sure i'd use either of those words. > > unless sam houston and sam hillborne are distant cousins or > > something ;) > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence?
I agree with patrick. An Austin based frame-maker using a Texas- founding-father to name a frame can hardly be called an imitation-- since Sam Hillborne is actually much more of a made-up name. I actually found the up-slope geometry of the Sam H. very similar to my G3 Kogswell P/R, which of course came to the market earlier than the Sam H. Up-slope geometry is so common now, I don't think Riv can claim any IP on it. Kogswell and Rawland also have tons of tire clearance and are fender- and racks friendly. VCC make custom frames, from Austin, whereas Sam H. are production frames from Taiwan (there is nothing wrong with that). I see them as different options on the market. Incidentally, the wait on a VCC frame is only 4 weeks at the moment, and $1200 for a custom lugged frame made in the USA seems like a good deal. really miss when my romulus frame cost me $750 new from Riv merely 5 years ago, Franklyn On Nov 2, 2:21 pm, Aaron Thomas wrote: > Color similarity with the Atlantis aside, what strikes me is the fact > that the Sam Houston shares Sam Hilborne's significantly up-sloping > top tube (not to mention cantilevers, gobs of tire clearance, and all- > rounder aspirations). > > I don't know whether it's an "imitation" or just curiously > "coincidental," but the similarities are clearly there in both moniker > and design. > > On Nov 2, 1:57 pm, Dustin Sharp wrote: > > > I agree the color makes it look Atlantis like, but then again, > > Celeste/sea-foam whatever it is didn't exactly start with Rivendell. > > > D > > > > From: Patrick in VT > > > Reply-To: > > > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:47 -0800 (PST) > > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence? > > > > hmm . ... framebuilder in austin, TX designs and offers a handbuilt > > > frameset with choice of geometry/tubes depending on intended use - > > > touring, sport (whatever that means) and cx - and names the bike after > > > a texan hero. > > > > imitation or coincidence? not sure i'd use either of those words. > > > unless sam houston and sam hillborne are distant cousins or > > > something ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Sloped Top Tube
I notice that some of the Rivs have Sloped Top Tubes, many other bikes toowhile others have horizontal. Does anyone know the reason why? Surf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sloped Top Tube
A horizontal TT has long been part of the standard design. An upsloping TT allows the headtube to be higher relative to the saddle, which makes it easier to get the handlebar high enough. That's the Riv reasoning. I think a lot of other manufacturers do it for other reasons (style, weight, "stiffness", etc). On Nov 2, 4:46 pm, Surf wrote: > I notice that some of the Rivs have Sloped Top Tubes, many other bikes > toowhile others have horizontal. Does anyone know the reason why? > > Surf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
Individual cogs in the ones I wear out are about $20 each. I have no intention of buying a complete cassette. Ti is a more expensive material and more difficult to machine than steel, and the volume this vendor is producing is a fraction of Shiimano, so I can see $20 for a cog. My expectation for Ti is to at least double the life of steel and probably more. dougP On Nov 2, 2:20 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Dustin Sharp wrote: > > > I agree, though compared to the almost $500 you can pay for a 2009 > > Campagnolo Super Record 11 Cassette, the ActionTec Cassettes almost seem > > like a bargain! > > First, a vociferation: Man! $500 for a cassette! Is there a real reason > (precious materials; precision workmanship; huge demand) for this, or is > this an extreme case of vanity pricing? Or does Campy sell in a surreal > alternate universe? > > Second: how well do ti cogs wear, compared to steel? > > And lastly: again, Man! I'm glad I have only one cog (or perhaps two) per > bike. Even at $30 each for a good one, that's only $330 for eleven of them, > plus a bit for little hardware bits! > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > (505) 227-0523 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 16:46 -0800, doug peterson wrote: > Individual cogs in the ones I wear out are about $20 each. I have no > intention of buying a complete cassette. Don't you need to start with a complete cassette, so that when the individual sprockets wear out you can replace them? I don't think they're meant to be replacement items for rehabilitating worn Shimano cassettes. Actually, given cost and availability, rather than rehabbing an 8, wouldn't you be better off switching to 7 speed? > Ti is a more expensive > material and more difficult to machine than steel, and the volume this > vendor is producing is a fraction of Shiimano, so I can see $20 for a > cog. My expectation for Ti is to at least double the life of steel > and probably more. AFAIK the life span of Shimano Dura Ace cassetted with Ti sprockets is dramatically shorter than steel Ultegra level cassettes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs Point Reyes 200k
I was considering it. But it would be my first ride with SFR, and I think I would want to do some dry runs first. any tips? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence?
On Nov 2, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Aaron Thomas wrote: > > Color similarity with the Atlantis aside, what strikes me is the fact > that the Sam Houston shares Sam Hilborne's significantly up-sloping > top tube (not to mention cantilevers, gobs of tire clearance, and all- > rounder aspirations). There's no patent on any of those things or any combination of those things. Grant was not the first to use those design features, either. My Gunnar Crosshairs has all of those features and is a design 10 years older than the Hillborne. > I don't know whether it's an "imitation" or just curiously > "coincidental," but the similarities are clearly there in both moniker > and design. I think it's just the coincidental similarities of the name and some design features of the Houston with the Hillborne. And some of the general aesthetics (lugs, nice paint, head badge, etc.) all of which are shared with a lot of bike makers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence?
Looks like a cool product line! Glad to see anyone building lugged/brazed steel here in the States! DE On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Aaron Thomas wrote: > > > > > Color similarity with the Atlantis aside, what strikes me is the fact > > that the Sam Houston shares Sam Hilborne's significantly up-sloping > > top tube (not to mention cantilevers, gobs of tire clearance, and all- > > rounder aspirations). > > There's no patent on any of those things or any combination of those > things. Grant was not the first to use those design features, > either. My Gunnar Crosshairs has all of those features and is a > design 10 years older than the Hillborne. > > > I don't know whether it's an "imitation" or just curiously > > "coincidental," but the similarities are clearly there in both moniker > > and design. > > I think it's just the coincidental similarities of the name and some > design features of the Houston with the Hillborne. And some of the > general aesthetics (lugs, nice paint, head badge, etc.) all of which > are shared with a lot of bike makers. > > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Homer, Fall and an awesome ride.
I got out today on my Hilsen for a lengthy ramble looping around the Sandy River and back to the Columbia River Gorge. It was an amazing day here that started out slightly overcast and hazy and turned into a spectacularly sunny day. The fall colors are pretty vibrant right now and the roads were empty which made for a relaxing ride although this particular ride had quite a bit of climbing. I don't have a cycling computer on my bike now so I'm not sure of the mileage, easily over 80. The pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157622597206485/ --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
Lots of thoughtful discussion below to which I'll only ad this. My motivations for buying the titanium cogset (and for the next one I'll buy) were durability and versatility. First, being able to select each gear individually was a boon. I wanted the 36t lowest gear and I also wanted an 11t. Russel accommodates both. Durability matters, too. My LBS folks advised the advantage of the ActionTec titanium cogs (beyond weight) is their "shark tooth" design that uses the full thickness of metal to the end of each tooth. They explained that most steel cog designs weaken the teeth at the most crucial point with various ramps, thinning and grinding to facilitate easier shifting with 9 and 10 speed indexed systems. But I needed none of that - shifts are smooth and sure as it. As a note, we did experiment with the optional ActionTec idler wheel and found it unnecessary. So, if you need an extra-tough, off-road or steep hills and heavy loads over that really high pass cog setup this might meet your needs. Of course bragging about titanium parts to the carbon fiber crowd at the coffee shop is always fun, too. Rich in Corvallis On Nov 2, 1:18 am, mitchelr wrote: > Lots of discussion of use of an Atlantis on the Great Divide. Here is > a handy accessory that will help tame the hills when loaded down a > bit. > > ActionTec titanium cogset, 8 speed, 11-36 including 11 tooth/lockring, > and all spacers. I've used this set about 100 miles on fire trails > (some steep for me) and 300 miles touring. Works flawlessly. So > well, in fact, that Russel is making me a 11-38 cogset (yes, I'm a > weenie but I love to climb up those coast range logging roads we have > here in Oregon and this cogset has made all the difference). Would > serve well for extended touring with heavy loads. Weight > approximately 200gr. http://www.actiontec.us/ticog.htm $175 > delivered to CONUS. Richard Mitchell, Corvallis, Oregon (541) > 752-0755 mitch...@onid.orst.edu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sloped Top Tube
My Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road is the first frame I have owned with a sloping top tube. What got me was how small frame looked when I unpacked it. As I built it, the frame appeared to be expanding before my eyes. The Bruce Gordon frame built up is significantly lighter and somewhat shorter overall than my Trek 728 was yet heel clearance with the large Ortlieb panniers is pretty close. I am not 100% with the aesthetics versus the Trek, but I am coming around on the practicalities. On Nov 2, 4:53 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > A horizontal TT has long been part of the standard design. An > upsloping TT allows the headtube to be higher relative to the saddle, > which makes it easier to get the handlebar high enough. That's the Riv > reasoning. I think a lot of other manufacturers do it for other > reasons (style, weight, "stiffness", etc). > > On Nov 2, 4:46 pm, Surf wrote: > > > > > I notice that some of the Rivs have Sloped Top Tubes, many other bikes > > toowhile others have horizontal. Does anyone know the reason why? > > > Surf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Homer, Fall and an awesome ride.
Great photos! --Eric www.wheelsnorth.org www.campyonly.com On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Mike wrote: > > I got out today on my Hilsen for a lengthy ramble looping around the > Sandy River and back to the Columbia River Gorge. It was an amazing > day here that started out slightly overcast and hazy and turned into a > spectacularly sunny day. The fall colors are pretty vibrant right now > and the roads were empty which made for a relaxing ride although this > particular ride had quite a bit of climbing. I don't have a cycling > computer on my bike now so I'm not sure of the mileage, easily over > 80. > > The pictures can be found here: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157622597206485/ > > --mike > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence?
Hmmm, I'm not sure what to think. Funny how so many custom builders are trying to make bikes like the ones Rivendell has been producing for years. I was at the Oregon Handmade Bicycle Show this past weekend and there were a lot of interesting bikes but I think my next bike will most likely be another Rivendell. Or maybe a Mercian. Or if I go budget, an Surly LHT. --mike On Nov 2, 12:32 pm, "Dave @ Rivendell" wrote: > don't know what to think about this one. Introducing The Sam Houston > bike from Violet Crown Cycles: > > http://www.violetcrowncycles.com/samhouston.php --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Riv. Cat # 8
I'll buy it, is it still available? I'll PM you. Thanks, Ace On Nov 2, 10:50 am, cyclotourist wrote: > Anyone looking to complete their collection? > > $5 + shipping ($1???) > > Try out that fancy Paypal "friends" option! > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, > scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs Point Reyes 200k
Andrew, Sorry, I am a first timer as well. Three other friends of mine from South Bay is coming as well. We are good at doing metric century so we shall see. I am looking forward to it. Ron On Nov 2, 2:08 pm, Andrew Richmond wrote: > I was considering it. But it would be my first ride with SFR, and I > think I would want to do some dry runs first. > > any tips? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Riv. Cat # 8
Sorry to not post a response sooner, it has moved on to a new home! :-) On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Ace wrote: > > I'll buy it, is it still available? I'll PM you. > Thanks, > Ace > > > On Nov 2, 10:50 am, cyclotourist wrote: > > Anyone looking to complete their collection? > > > > $5 + shipping ($1???) > > > > Try out that fancy Paypal "friends" option! > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > David > > Redlands, CA > > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, > > scientist guy > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
